Marshall DSL1HR + MX112 Cab | YAY or NAY? 

I have this combo and you are absolutely correct.

*sd-1

Yeah this is a useful comment I'm sure to people who haven't bought this yet, haha. I use mine at 0.1 watt most of the time and still am worried about how much my neighbors must hate me.

Hi just wondering which you think is better as I’m between buying one if these in combo form or a katana 50! And cannot decide ! Any input would be appreciated

@@MrRicardodon both have their strengths and weaknesses. Marshall a bit expensive, but has got the effects loop inputs to plugin your favourite pedals if you have many. Katana is like a swiss army knife, multiple effects, with apps where you can tweak with just your phone. But it lacks the option to connect your pedals. In this case better to go for the 100 version (combo or head). I would summarise by saying, if you are just starting out the Katana is a better option. But if you have a specific sound and it can be achieved only through Marshall (which I'm sure can be tweaked in a katana), then go for it. Hope this helps.

its good indeed!

Its 30 watts u fool

@@YaBoiMeeks No. It isn't. It's 1 watt on high setting, .1 (1/10) watt on low. One possible clue you could use is that it is a DSL....1.....It's OK to be wrong, but you want to call a guy a fool AND be wrong...lmao

@@jimgriggs2184 then why it say 30 watts on the main input 🤨🤨

@@YaBoiMeeks you are such a loser

@@YaBoiMeeks INPUT!!!! NOT OUTPUT!!!! Output is 1 watt!!

I am thinking of doing this exact same thing. My 212 is the XXX Sheffield cab. What speakers are in your cab?

Thanks!

I'm thinking about getting the combo in the future, when you said that the neighbors "barely tolerate it", do you mean it's loud enough to bother them even when it is as low as you can set it so that you can hear it yourself? I fear any volume loud enough would be almost too loud...

@@muriloescher8607 Its gain channel has a master volume, so you can get a distorted sound at whisper-quiet volumes. I'm a boomer, however, so my preferred tones are all on the "classic gain" channel, which doesn't break up until you push the output stage a fair bit. So, take my comment with the understanding that if you're a high-gain guy (or you push the front end with boost, overdrive and/or distortion pedals), you'll easily get distortion. If your idea of a signal chain is guitar -> tuner -> amp and you're going into the classic gain channel, you'll need some volume to get breakup. Even 0.1 Watts is somewhat loud cranked. Don't expect a classic gain channel dimed at 3 a.m. experience in a flat unless your neighbours are partying and tolerant.

@@TraneFrancks Thanks for the quick answer, man. I like both heavy distortion and the clean/classic crunch sound, so kinda on the fence. I am probably going to play using headphones mostly, as I do now. I guess I will just keep looking for the "perfect" practice/home amp until I am sure. Thank you very much for the input!

Probably by now you've done so, and if you can answer it I have a question. I currently have a Fender 10G (10 watts transistor), is this 1W Head louder or only if you want to reach the distorted tone?

@@lucid_delirium976 Haven't tested a 1x12 so not sure. But at 0.25W it sounded great on a 4x12 & 4x10 (each cab with different speaker type and brands). The sound was heavy, thick and tight. Keep in mind you need an overdrive. I was and still use an SD-1 that goes for dirt cheap in 2nd hand market, its durable as fuck and sounds brilliant

Have to also mention a slight volume drop when connecting pedals like a chorus in the loop. Didn't do a proper search as to why was that

I'm pretty sure there is a 5W version, at least as a combo which presumably could still be used as a head.

@@Ineedahandle75 yes dsl5cr

nice! enjoy it!

how was blackstar ht5r gain for metal tones and which cabinet were you running it through ?

@@riffheart It’s a very versatile amp and gives a full range of distortion tones - though a metal version exists, too. I used the standard HT extension cab. It’s a great amp for overdriven rock tones.

Ihave the same amp, gets muddy or loose as i turn up the volume, is urs the same? I do use it on 2x12s thou

Nope. It’s pretty depending on how I EQ it. Although if you use the Tone shift, it does seem to get tighter. I don’t but I’m running pedals fairly often now either the TS-9 or SD-1 which ends up making the tone tighter anyway. The only thing is there is sometimes a hissing noise but that seems to be a standard issue with the DSL amps.

Thanks for watching man! It sounds quite good for the money. Lead sounds are cool, rhythm tone isn't my favorite though.

Torn between getting a 112 and a 212 for my DSL 20HR, how are you finding it with the 112?

@@jamoman0277 it sounds great through a 1x12. It's plenty loud for practice for sure. Plug it into something bigger like 2x12 or better yet a 4x12 and it's very capable of playing with a live band.

@@bernardfoshage9901 awesome, thank you, I've got myself a nice cheap 212 and a pair of Greenbacks to put in it 👍

The cool thing about the classic gain channel is that if your Strat is too bright, just crank the volume to get more compression to take off the top end bite. Dimed, my Strat even has usable tone on the bridge pickup. More interestingly, rolling treble on the amp to zero dramatically increases gain and produces quite a marvellous tone. Tele bridge pickup REALLY likes it.

@@TraneFrancks is there any tone settings you'd recommend?

@@lorthern4118 I usually have amp's treble and mid at 12 o'clock and bass dimed. The higher the volume, the more I roll back the bass to help keep it somewhat tight. Depending on how bright your pickups are, you may want to increase top end as you get closer to dimed volume. And, as the old "dimed Marshall" implies, there's great joy to be had in just taking volume, treble, mid and bass and just winding 'em all fully clockwise. Ultimately, just experiment. The combination of guitar, pickups, guitar vol/tone and amp vol/tone controls create nearly unlimited variations. I find that my LP Special's P-90s interact with the amp quite differently than, say, my Tele's '64 Pure Vintage pickups. Oh, and the amp's treble knob can be rolled back to minimum to increase gain, which can net a really interesting tonal effect. Enjoy the journey. :)

@@TraneFrancks oh why do u dimed the bass??? I got one, and when i turn up the volume the bass gets muddy (maybe loose) it sounds like farts. I got the bass at 9 oclock, and didnt really fix it, but i got it thru a closeback2x12 with v30s.

@@howtoshootstraighthtss4948 Since I have the combo, bass is pretty weak. As I wrote above, however, the more the volume goes up, the more the bass gets rolled back. I play mostly edge-of-breakup tones, so I seldom have to worry about it farting out.

Yes, it has internal simulation, but it's not amazing. I think o using a DI box to get the speaker out, split in 2, send one to speaker, and DI out to PC, to use IR's.

@@danieltv123 Thanks!bro!

Wutup Natedog!

Just rearrange your speakers as 16ohms, 2x8ohm series = 16ohms, 2x8ohm parallel=4ohm, 4x4ohm series=16ohms (don't try the parallel 'cos is like 1 - 2 ohms) the power is the same at 16ohms, no matter the arrangement.

It's a 2 speaker cab 2- 8 ohm speakers. I have tried it in series and it just doesn't sound the same. The 4 ohm setup is night and day different and sounds too damn good to wire it to sound less!

It has an emulated out so headphones can be plugged in. It’s on the rear of the amp.

NateDogMXtv well thats a practice amp this is more giggish

hehe yeah it feels good! but the vst nowadays sound so so so good.

What’s your thoughts on the Harley Burton guitar?

@@itakemyshirtoffwhenipoo4990 I got the 5W combo aswell, Play it mostly clean with my epiphone casino and I love it, great amp for the money!!!

yes it makes popping noise, if you change it while playing.

Yeh 12v30 or 12h30 I hear good things about the greenbacks too

The Seventy 80 speaker that comes in this cabinet holds this amp back. A greenback, V-Type or some of the WGS options really improve things and open this amp up.

it has a tube

@@StelAndre Oh wow! That is great news! Thanks

Yeap takes pedal well and I would say the opposite. The clean sounds quite thin and the drive sounds a bit better. I ve sold it though since I wasn’t playing it.

@@StelAndre hmmmm ok i am struggling here to find a amp for bedroom playing meanwhile i own a laney irt120 and a evh 5150 .do you have any exp. or idea??? tnx

@@xdx2653 I like the katana 50, for indoor use or even the Roland micro cube gx. But if you are talking about tube amps I’m not very experienced with such gear..

@@StelAndre ok bro tnx for your time anyway.i am looking right now the micro cube and the katana .tnx

I too came for the cab. As I need a cab for my rack setup

What did you go for? Eyeing up the Harley but I think I'd prefer 1x12 (playing at home).

@@Cheximus got the Harley Benton vintage 212, horizontal. After shipping to USA still only $318. Marshall mx212 with particleboard and 70/80's cost $499 before tax. Easy choice. I definitely recommend ordering from Thomanns website. Way cheaper than US prices. They even have the MX cabinet for, I think about $240. Plus shipping. I wish Marshall would at least put V-plus speakers instead of the 70/80's. Maybe I should try one before bashing too hard. But the Harley Benton quality is nice. Took the back panel off the other day. Beautiful poplar plywood. Looked brand new and fresh. Smells nice too.

Too many questions, will keep my answer very brief- to avoid you any pains of research just get this combo or a cabinet with matching ohms to go with a valve head. Bugera, blackstar, joyo some brands out there with effects loop as well.

thanks man, ναι μπορει αλλα μονο με 16 watta impedance. Για live δε νομιζω οτι θα εχει τη δυναμη που θα ηθελες.. οχι οτι δεν ειναι δυνατος για 1 watt ολο κι ολο, απλα ειναι πολυ bright.. σε λαιβ ισως ξυριζει.. θα προτιμουσα ισως εναν Jet City 25.

Stel Andre Ευχαριστω για την απαντηση φιλε! Εχω εναν orange tiny terror και εχω παιξει καμποσα λαηβ με αυτον αλλα δεν εχει το headroom ενως μεγαλυτερου ενισχυτη! Γιαυτο εψαχνα αυτον τον μαρσαλ,θα ψαξω τον Jet city που μου προτεινες! Δεν ξερω πολλα για αυτους τους ενισχυτες αλλα λενε καλα λογια! Και παλι ευχαριστω για το χρονο σου!

@@t_monte_christo τιποτα φιλε, εγω ευχαριστω! Ναι τσεκαρε Jet City ακουγεται υπεροχος.. καλα λογια λενε και για τους φθηνοτερους bugera αλλα δεν εχω παιξει για να εχω εικονα. Υπαρχουν πολλα καλα κεφαλακια στα λεφτα αυτα.. και οι EVH ειναι κορυφη.. εξαρταται και το ειδος που θελεις να παιξεις σαφως.

Stel Andre Υπεροχα!!! Ευχαριστω για τις κατευθυντηριες και τη βοηθεια! :)

yeap!

Too loud

Yes.

Why does the 70/80 fart ? it is a 80W rated speaker with heavy doping. But I agree that the celestion 70/80 is not a good fit for marshall type amps..Also VOX puts this speaker in their very bright VOX AC4-c1 in a small closed back cab which is the wrong speaker for the cab and circuit. . Marshall amps tend to have pretty strident upper mids and the celestion 70/80 has that in spades, and the lack of low mids in the 70/80 and focus on highs mids make it sound better in an open back configuration. A really well broken in 70/80 sounds nice in my friends YCV40. An american sounding amp with a large baltic birch plywood open back cab (not dead MDF).. Speakers like the celestion vintage 30 sound better in small closed back cab as it limits the mids a bit, lift the resonance frequency so you get more audible punchy bass.. PS: the 70/80 takes a long time to break in.. It might be the amount of doping. I have a solid state DV micro 50 amp which is said to sound a little like a darker fender silverface amp, without a bright cap,, the mid control work on lower mids,, the bass pot is too excessive (keep it 10' oclock) , and the treble needs a little boost (2 o'clock),, This amps lacks the upper mid presence of a marshall amp and the celestion 70/80 is a good fit.. I have a smooth sounding eminence legend GB128 but with the DV mark it lacks cutting midrange.. The GB128 works wonders in bright marshall amps though..

thank you bro!

Exactly. It's kinda muddy in the heavy riffs. But for some nice lead tones or blues /hard rock leads is fine!

Stel Andre and for high gain you have the FX Loop 😏

i think it's great for heavy riffing, but you got to experiment with the settings. i guess gain is too high in this clip, but if you use a booster pedal in front of the amp with gain around 7-8 it gets a nice (oldschoolish) metal tone

If you want modern high gain get a 5150 like everyone else 😆

i think yes!

If you are asking about size - cab is designed as an extension for DSL20 combo or as set for DSL20 head. Try to Google phrase "DSL20C MX112", you'll see the stack ;)

its a good combo but i think i like some other tube amps better now.. but its a good low volume amp for a small room!

there is no standby in such a low watt amp

@@StelAndre thanks bro

​@@StelAndresorry for late answer but is this because it's not that dangerous to fry it with only 1/.1 Watts of power? Also, is this setup too loud for apartment usage. I'm new on head + cab combo. Also is the DSL1cr lower in volume than dsl1hr + cab?

Μετρια.. η καμπινα εχει καλη κατασκευη αλλα το ηχεια δεν ειναι καλο. Για Marshall ενισχυτες ειναι καλυτερο να πας σε Greenback ηχειο και να το τοποθετησεις στην καμπινα αυτη, η να παρεις σκετη κουφια καμπινα (προτεινω την Palmer) και να βαλεις το ηχειο μεσα.. Γενικα ο ολος ενισχυτης μετα απο αρκετη χρηση, θα ελεγα οτι ειναι μετριος.. για 1 watt και κανενα practice, ειναι οκ. Αλλα δεν εχει και τρομερο ηχο..

Σε ευχαριστώ από την άμεση απάντηση...! Δεν είδα πολλά βίντεο για την καμπίνα αυτή (μόνο κράξιμο). Έχεις κάνει ωραία παρουσίαση. Θα σε ρωτήσω και κάτι ακόμα στα αγγλικά για να βοηθήσει και περισσότερους που ίσως έχουν ίδιες απορίες με εμένα και δεν έχω ευκολία να ακούσω πολλά ηχεία από κοντά...

Please explain how to do it.

I've read you can directly connect an 8 ohm speaker without issues. So we really need to Mod the wire in the transformer?

My DeArmond M-75 (Gold Tone humbuckers) and Gibson Les Paul Special w P-90s see breakup on the classic gain channel (power set to 0.1 W) with the volume knob at about 11 o'clock. The single coils on the Tele and Strat need more of a twist of the knob, but the output is basically the same. Strat and Tele like a bit more overall volume to tame the bridge pickups via compression.

Trane Francks ...Hi..do you think this is way different from Orange , I have the Th30c ...great breakup at low volume 2 channel...i.e. Worth buying for that Marshall tone ..?

@@neoaureus I suppose it depends on what vintage of Orange you consider "Orange". Is it a Matlab or later? Same somewhat applies to the Marshall question. The DSL1xR amp strives to mimic the tone and gain of a JCM800 on the classic gain channel, so you need to balance that versus the vintage of Orange you're hoping to emulate. If you want a late-'70s/early-'80s Orange tone on the Marshall classic gain channel, you won't get there directly, but a treble boost pedal might help you get closer. Ultimately, if you really want the Orange sound, you want an Orange amp. But, yes, if you like the JCM800-type of grind, you'll enjoy this amp. Just note that if you really want that big bottom, you'll want the head and separate cab instead of the combo. The combo is more mids-focused and the bottom end is a little more loose (typical of open-back combos vs sealed cabs).

Trane Francks ....ah ! You are not a amp nerd....you are a Philosopher ! Haha ...thanks I shall ponder on the mysteries of life...I mean electronics.

@@neoaureus Have fun, man! I hope you find that tone that's in your head. ☺️

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