Marshall JVM410 / JVM HJS Comparsion 

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I agree. Ive had the original for 2 years and managed to get my hands on the JS version a few weeks a go. everyone claims the JS is better, but I say it all depends on what you are going for. The crunch channel is way better on the JS, but I prefer the OD channels on the original JVM. Personally, my ideal JVM would be the clean and crunch channel from the JS and the OD channels from the original JVM....and the JS noise gates instead of reverb.

@@-EndlessNameless- yeah, i got the same feeling about these amps. I own the original 410H and find the crunch channel to be too compressed. but love the tighter OD1 and OD2

*shit Cringey self-censoring... You should be *ASHAMED* of yourself. Go to your room!

Do you mean the eq700 pedal? It forms have any option to lower 1.8khz. Only 1.6. I am only curios because I am going to try the same with my JVM for more vintage tones

@@musiccer7446 Try it out. It will help. I've got to be honest with you, though. I had my 410 crap out on two gigs this year. After the second time, I went out and bought a Peavey Invective, and I honestly can't describe how much it blows the 410 away - certainly sound-wise. Hope you have better luck with yours than I did mine!

@@cornfilledscreamer614 in versatility too? I am not a real metal person. I don’t care much if the high gain sounds are better on the peavy.

@@musiccer7446 I'm pretty much in the boat with you. Don't play metal, but when I take leads, I want a pretty distorted, fat tone. The clean channel is spot on. Every bit as good - if not better than the 410, and the 410 definitely has a great clean sound. For crunch, it has an OD built in that you can kick on. Pretty good for bluesy stuff. If I had to pick out a weak spot on it, though, this would be it. Still - I like it better than the crunch channel on the 410. I actually use the "crunch channel" (definitely higher gain) as my lead channel. It was completely based on the original block letter 5150, and it is absolute bliss. You do have some good control over how much distortion you use, but it has a far superior sound to the 410 OD 3 (in any mode, too), IMO. Just fat and not harsh. Very smooth. Finally, I use the main lead channel as more of a cleaner distortion for cleaner leads and rhythm. I have to turn the gain down a lot to get this, but it cleans up nicely without losing a lot of tone like the OD channels on the 410 do. It distorts out about as much as the 410 does on both OD channels, but doesn't get near as flabby. The footswitch on the 410 isn't all that bad, but the Invective footswitch is absolutely killer. You can basically get 9 presets and hit any of them to get a solo boost. Easier to use than the 410. I'm not here as a Peavey spokesperson, and I don't just absolutely hate the 410, but I spent SOOOO much time tweaking the 410. New tubes, cabinets - and I just didn't want to get into modding it. I've been spoiled for years with a Mk IIC Boogie, and I just couldn't quite get the 410 where I wanted it. When I got the Invective, I had a much better sound than the 410 after 5 minutes of fiddling with the EQ's, etc.. If you're going to be spending $2-4k on an amp, you shouldn't have to mod it, IMO! Quite honestly, the Invective gets a better lead sound than my Boogie, and I never thought I'd say that!

I can clearly say the worst Marshall I ever had was the original JVM, noisy, thin and harsh, you described it perfectly, also the gate in the HJS is great. I know I tried to convince myself the original was better. Now I'd say to anyone get a JCM (any of them) or the HJS instead

Iv never found a noise gate to work well with subtle playing, this included my jvmhjs. But it’s a great amp. Do wish it was a bit tighter at times and I find its cleans almost in useable for straight cleans since it’s so thin and bright for me . But It’s distortion is awesome. I might prefer the sound of the plexi studio though as Iv heard it online. Fair amounts of gain and distortion but tighter and clear than the jvmhjs

its just a differently micd cab.

@@kimseniorb no...both recorded with the same impulse response

Hi Marshall 4x12 cab with V30 speakers with SM57+MD421 blended. I love both amps and i don´t prefer one over the other..it really depends. I own 10 Amps and the JVM´s belong to my favourite ones over the years. I used the both heads with my Band live and at rehearsals although i mainly use Kemper live these days. With both Heads you can play any kind of style it really doesn´t matter

Hi Tone Hammer Thanks for response. I have jvm 410h, i like the sound but have problem with feetback. We are very loud band and with 57 classics pickups by OD1 orange mod come noisy feedback. I have Isp decimator if it leads directly to the head input will help not all. If it leads to the effect loop something that changes into the resulting sound. Soo i am thinking of buying Hjs. Martin

Hi..use a ISP Decimator G-string which is for front + loop. Its dead quiet with this one..even the hum gone without tone suck. But yes the Gate in the HJS works great too but its a quiet different sounding Amp imo. Both are awesome!

Hi.. can I use serial/parallel fx loop or power amp insert / serial loop ? Serial has a MIX ...dry - wet ? What with that ? Thank you very much for your help ;) I have G string II ... I have already tried many times but without good result. Maybe is my ISP broken down ;) thanks Martin

I used the paralell loop with full wet...the serial loop would cut the reverb. So like Guitar to ISP...ISP to Amp input...Amp send to ISP...ISP to Amp return..loop engaged at front panel

Just back off the gain/drive it will cut and still have plenty of distortion Most players use way to much distortion because it sounds good at home but in the studio they will high pass and cut you lows hard And live the distortion just makes a mushy mess especially with two guitarist I never play with another guitarist it’s easy to fill nearly any tune and one less mouth to feed

@@gitarman666 You are correct. Up the volume and back down on gain to get a more open sound. The amp has loads of gain so often it doesnt need to be past 12 o clock gainwise.

No..i can tell you the hjs is way way quieter then the regular jvm when it comes to noise. Also..when you use the built in gate - which is the best built in gate that i know, the Amp is dead quiet on all channels

I also have a isp decimator 2...but with the JS i dont need it. Best built in gate out there i know. I personally dont like the built in reverb much..i use other reverbs in pedalformat. The JS is much more organic and thick. It still has a ton of gain. Yes it needs a boost to be tight..but the JS handles boosts way better than the regular jvm. After all the time i sold my regular 410 and use the JS as my main Amp with a SD-1. I realized way later that the SD-1 works better with the JS than the Maxon for me. I prefer the Maxon with my other Amps.

Owned first a JVM H, now have the HJS. The Marshall reverb in it was not really that good, you'd be better off with a dedicated pedal. Also the original JVM is noisiest amp I ever had, now I am in heaven with the HJS.

I do have the js. I wish I had gotten a second just Incase anything happens to the first . I will say it doesn’t have a lot of bottom and is a lil loose sounding but it’s a great amp overall. I do have a 40watt blackstar that sounds thicker and has more Bottom end to it if I want. But it isn’t as dynamic. The JS is a great amp. Although I am listening to clips of the studio plexi 20 watt and that head sounds pretty good. I like the way it clips and distorts

Although recently I will say, the js has an issue where it’s midrange isn’t bogey but rather soft and the high end is where it’s got more presence . Revisiting third video it seems the original jvm has more bite in the midrange as one would expect from a marshall. The js can be loose and flubby and soft in the midrange. Iv actually been looking at new amps after owning this amp for years. It’s a decent sound but I’m lookin for something with more midrange presence and less high end fizz and less gain too. It’s not a particularly tight sound. I actually think I prefer the original at points here. But I’m lookin at plexis or maybe other brands altogether . I have liked the js but I do think it’s majorly overhyped and it’s not the best marshall ever as many claim , that’s for sure

Could you solve the midrange problem with an eq pedal in the FX loop?

What settings do u use to get the plexi sound?

The JS sounds so flubby and saggy compared to the original, which cuts like a hot knife.

Great I’m sure your covers of sweet home Alabama and pout some sugar on me are much better

@@FEAROWNAGE Haha ry taking your gain past 12 oclock, dont tell me you can because I know better as far as flubby lowend easily fixed with the correct pedal...Like I said I play a lot of sessions when you BOYS get paid for playing like I do then you can spout off childish remarks.....typical children of the soy comments.

lol

It's definitely brighter

Perspective...and I disagree, is has noise gate and other than the time differences are subtle at best