Marshall Origin 50h vs 50 watt Marshall Plexi (the1987x) 

I love your reviews. As an owner of Origin 50H, I can definitely confirm it is loud as f$%k and has far more volume than I will ever need. However, it has a power reduction switch which really does a great job so the amp can be pushed hard at lower volumes. Personally, I think the Origin 50H is a great amp that provides far more in terms of sound than what is worth for its price tag. To have a full-sized EL34 head with effects loop and Marshall label under 600 euros is a case that is very difficult to beat. However, in reviews, I think there is a big injustice made to these amps because they are often perceived as a "poor man's plexi" and somewhat expected to perform as 2000 $+ boutique Marshall heads and are judged through these lenses. I think it is fair to say that Origin is Origin and Plexi is a Plexi. Origin has its own thing going and is a Marshall amp on its own...nowhere did Marshall officially state that this is budget plexi or made comparisons like that. It should be valued for what it is and not for what it is perceived it could or should be. Just my 2 cents. Great review as always, Elmo! ;-)

I have an origin 50 running thru a 4x12 with v30’s and that took care of the fizzy sound. And yeah that little monster has some volume.

Thanks for the videos you have done on the Origin! I'm currently researching the amp and I am strongly considering entering into the Marshall world and this seems to fit my budget and needs.

I came for the amp tones, stayed for the awesome playing. Nice work, sir.

I thoroughly enjoyed this as I am looking into the Origin and wanted Honest Opinions. Great playing and information, I’ll be back 👍

Just bought an Origin 50...before watching this vid. Thanks for a great head-to-head. Awesome, dude!

Loving this not so subtle comparison! Crank her up Elmo! 😊

I love my origin 50h. Got rid of the fizz completely with a power cap upgrade, and then swapped preamp tubes for tungsol 12ax7rs and rebiased it to run kt66 power tubes... for only a few bucks, there was a dramatic improvement over the stock version which is already a fantastic ( and super LOUD) amp. Considered a transformer upgrade but I honestly like it exactly how it is now.

Love my origin 20h. Love the hell out of it. Running it on 3w setting to push the volume really makes it pop and honestly makes it so much more accessible to use at home hahaha

The low end on the vintage Marshall seemed a little flubby, and a little tighter on the origin. The origin seems to have a plexi drive with a more 800 style eq. Thanks for the great video!

Having played an origin 50h now myself, I'd totally recommend it for beautiful cleans to classic rock.

With the greatest of respect you are an expert on decibels my friend.

Killer! That origin sounds great to me and it shows there is nothing like a cranked tube amp!! Fantastic playing 🤘🤘

Great video, great playing! I was looking at the origin 20, but for a few dollars more I could have the 50. I like the sound of the 50 better. Thank you Elmo!

In live performance on big stages, the sound engineer if the amps are going to be at high volumes, he adjusts the volume according to the tone that the guitarist is looking for at a specific volume and places the amps far and away from the stage. in order to be able to make the mix on the stage monitors and the sound that comes out to the public. For that reason I have never had to use my amp at full volume and my 50 head orgin sounds spectacular. and obviously in indor places like clubs ext. you will never need a higher volume than level 5, and even less on a plexi

Both sound great, but the Plexi sounded more greaterer. Greatissimo maximo.

Let's see if I can wrap my head round this- Plexi style power, with higher gain pre amp to drive the tubes, plus an 800 style eq.

Check out the review I did of the Origin 50: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-D2EGh9rHflE.html If you want to see more of my amp reviews, look here: ru-vid.com/group/PLNaLwTdlpQNHNo5bubVjV1OW04gkqU8rM

The origin sounded a helluva lot better imo

Thx! I prefer the plexi, but nice to hear both side by side.

Hey Elmo, great video and awesome playing! Thinking about getting an Origin 50, looking for that Plexi thing , pushing power amps versus high gain pre amp, and hoping to ad it alongside my DSL100HR. Does the do that and is it a keeper for you? I found the DSL od 1 and 2 channels unable to handle the Malmsteen overdrive with a Malmsteen strat like you experienced in the DSL 20 video. How does the Origin react? Thank you!

Great review Elmo I like the origin 50 but I think i would go for the 1987x its just a better amp .I have a jvm 205 h 50 watt head that sounds pretty damn good but nothing sounds like a plexi to me except a plexi . I can hear the difference in the mid range snarl . For the money and at lower volume the origin would do . But for giggin I would go with the 1987x

I believe that dB levels are measured at 3 feet, so if you have your meter twice that distance, as I think you said 2 metres, your volume is a little higher than what you thought. But I guess, loud is loud, and when you're up around 110-120 decibels it doesn't really matter (to our ears anyway).

What do you think, for playing RHCP Frusciante tones on a budget in a band, would you reccomend the Origin 50 or 20 or something else?

I have a JTM plexi and a 50wt Origin and the Origin just never ceases to amaze me, especially considering it's modest price and lowly status among afficianados (read, cork sniffers).

just curious if you upgraded the tubes?. i bought an Origin 20 head and a tube upgrade was like night and day. awesome demo. in Canada, there is about a $2000 difference for a plexi or $800 more for the SV.. for most of us, the origin plays the part well enough

I actually use and own both but the Origin 50h more due to ears and being indoors and all. Love the 1987xl more though. The Origin 50h is hard to beat in value and tone!

Hi Elmo, I bought an Origin 50h. I've owned just about every classic Marshall model worth owning, and I noticed that fizziness too, but I figured out how to get rid of that. The origin seems to work much more like a plexi if you drive the back end a little harder than the front. Also the tone controls are alot more sensitive, and have more range that a plexi. So here is my formula- Master- 9 Presence-1 Treble- 3 Middle -3 Bass-3 Preamp-8 Tilt- 6 Boost- off It is also worth mentioning that the Powerstream power scaling works great. Those setting work great across all power settings. Also the cabinets I'm using are a Marshall 1960AHW, and a Marshall 425B Vintage/ Modern.

Am I the only one that would prefer the origin by a long shot? I don't think one is actually better than the other, it's what sound do you prefer?

Mr. Karjalainen, what do you think it's a better option: Getting the Marshall DSL100HR or getting the DSL20HR & the Origin 50 Head?

Elmo is among the most likeable guys making guitar amp reviews on the entire RU-vid Channel.

Friends, Is the Original 50 Head Good? Does it tend to give you a lot of Recurring problems?

Elmo, you are a brave brave person sitting that close to a 50 watt Marshall at full volume! Kudos dude! Both amps sound fantastic. The Plexi is a personal favourite of mine (my custom built 69 Plexi is so awesome) and it has that fatness, girth and fullness. To my ears the bass gets a little loose on that amp. The origin is a real surprise. Not as fat sounding, but low end of tighter, and there is more pronounced high freqs which causes that slight fizz. I kinda preferred it for the Malmsteen rhythms - sound3d tighter - lead tones both cool but Plexi takes it for its fullness. Have an awesome day.

Origin is ok . But the player .... wow man excellent ! A very nice comparison of 2 good Marshall amps new and old . Cool vid , bro .

hi , thx for the vid elmo .. question: so master and gain needs to be pretty much on max... is 20 enough for a loud band and gigging at max? is 50 on max too much for a loud band? thx vm

Imo, hit it with the right boost and it'll be much harder to tell the amps apart. Maybe new tubes etc. It's kinda crazy that you can get in the ball park of the plexi at such a reasonable price. Marshall have done a terrific job on this amp and the dual super lead series as well. Also as always killer playing Elmo.

Wingnut Valvestem would be proud. 🤟 I can't believe the original plexi was a little harsher sounding than the origin.🤔

Do you have a comparison to Marshall 1987X to Marshall JCM 2000 50w ?

Tone wise what do you prefer The bugera 1960 or the Marshall Origin 50H ????

Hi elmo try reviewing the combo version of the origin 50 thanks!

hey elmo, what song is the riff at 5:44 from?

The 50 watts version it's better compared to the 20 watts?

They both sounded incredible. And you shred!!!!!

Awesome video I bought a cheap Marshall 100 watt tube amp it’s crazy loud, way too loud for the room I’m in now. I’m thinking that origin 50 might be the way to go. Thanks

So, basically... The origin is kinda like Plexi sound and the DSL is more like a JCM800? Is that it?

So you would suggest the 50 watt origin instead of the 20 watt if i wanted to use it to practice, jam and play gigs?

I vote origin on this one. Great video, thank you.

I just demoed the Origin 50 for a long time today. It’s like a JTM plexi with all that spank and character. The 1987 is on the opposite end, a hotrodded super lead sorta thing. Glassy up top and wooley…but it’s not that same JTM spank tho. That Origin is pretty great for that! It’s cool and amazing for the price, especially used lol. The combo sounded great too. I think the 50w is the way tho… the little cheap transformers in the studios and origins have sounded thin to me. A lot of the complaints about origins are related to that I think

Hi Elmo!! I’m planning to buy a origin 50h. How loud is it (db)? Is it clearly listenable in a middle of a jam with a drum, a bass and another guitar?

I'm guessing the "kind of clean" tones got cut out 🤷‍♂️

Awesome MARSHALL POWER ! ! Maybe using the same Tubes / Valves in both Amps would get the Tone -Volume identical !

5:45 I can imagine its from those moments where a guy back from the camera's say's ".. Is he gonna talk about the amp? " and the other one say's " NO no no, let him finish..."

I preferred the fullness of the plexi but the origin did ok

In the beginning are you plugged straight into the amp without elects? Do you use the effects loop?

Sounds great, you need a little air in your riffs but still entertaining.

Seems like the Origin holds it's own pretty good until you start playing above 320bpm. Then it starts losing articulation and gets kinda raspy. Love them Yngwie jams man!!!

I bought the origin 50h. In my opinion is great.. Not really big difference with yjm100

Ear plugs anyone? Great review. Nothing wrong with either amp IMHO.

Hi Whats the brand of your Pickups ? Thanks

I can understand concluding that the plexi is better for metal tones. But if you live anywhere from clean to overdriven, I think the origin will yield plenty of classic Marshall vibes for the average consumer who would be shopping in the origins price range anyhow.

You video helped convince me to try the Origin. The Origin 50C was better than I expected. Now, I also have an Origin 50H with two 4x12 Origin cabs. 😁

I think the harsh and fizzy thing you’ve heard with the origin is related to the stock tubes which I assume you’ve used in this video? The EL34 are ok, but the preamp tubes need to be swapped immediately for something smoother and stable. I like an all JJ Preamp, because even with loads of gain they stay tight and fat.

Great Demo as always! I bought a slightly blemished floor model of the Origin 50H and got a great deal on it, mainly bought as a backup for my Studio Vintage 20H. You said you didn't think the Origin 20 would be able to hang with the band your in, how does that compare to the SV20H as far volume is concerned?

THIS GUY!!! He's great!!! Is the decibel meter calibrated? Just kidding!!! Hahaha. Thanks for all your reviews.

The dislikes are grunge fans...

Nice one! Monster amps and monster guitarist! Thanks for that Elmo. I have to agree, the plexi sounds better but the origin is good too, especially for the price. And nice t-shirt

Blazing💫

Now that's some ripping like I like to see on a review yeah 👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥 when it's making you happy baby that's all it takes I probably would've been laughing and having fun too LOL🤣

In my opinion the origin sounds a tiny bit better cause it seems to be less dull and more brown sounding

I have an Origin 50C on the way. This comparison really helped me decide I didn't need a plexi. If I need more than the Origin, there's always other options. Cheers!

Origin won the favorite riff test (I don't have to spell it out, you know what it is).

The origin's box is too small, less is less, lol. Elmo, you make my day.

You really should be using hearing protection at such high volume. You can damage your hearing and think you're fine and not have any symptoms until a few years later, long after the damage has already been done. I don't know about you, but as a music lover, self inflicted deafness isn't high on my list of priorities.

2:59 Origin 5:43 Plexi

Thank you Elmo! I recently purchased an Origin 20 and I agree with everything you said about it so I sent it back. It just didn’t do what I think a Marshall should do! So I sold some stuff and my wife let me purchase the SV20 Mini Plexi and man does it sing!!! I love it!!! It has tons more drive than the Origin! I’m also using a volume pot in the effects loop, the JHS Little Black Box. I also want to try a good attenuator so I can get the power section to sing too! Loving it all so far! Thanks for your reviews!

Prefer the Marshall Origin 50 Watt

Neighter are any good.Just get an early 70,s 50 wattter(point to point wiring)with the laydown transformer and the search is over.

Thought they both sounded great. 😀 I prefered the Marshall..😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 120 db. Yikes. 😂 My ears. 😂 I used to shoot machine guns without ear protection back in the 70s working for an ammunition company, but back then people would say it wasn't permanently damiging. Of course. They were soooo wrong. Huh? 😂 What ya say? Is my most repeated phrase the last few years. 😂 Sounded pretty good to me.. I want to see you do a demo of your axefx vs the plexi and see if you can get a really close match...

They sound pretty close. 1987 a little warmer and complex. Awesome demo

Hi Elmo, for me the only similarity between the 2 amps is the logo😃. The 1987 is more dynamic, sounds like a tube amp, even if its darker and less nitid than the other.

Play Loud !!

What drive pedal?

The Origin 50 is in between a jmp and a jcm800 and a plexi ... it has sounds and tones similar to all those but also its own thing ... people have the bad habit of expecting cork sniffer tones out of cheap amps ... there is a reason some amp sell for 3000$ US and some others 500$, its all about expectation and how much premade ideas are worth. Tone chasing is a sickness and we all know it, some people are more sick than others and convince themselves that shelling out thousands of dollars is always better and justified.

I like your videos dude but I still don't get why karjabalajajaliaialjnen should be hard to pronounce. JK keep up the good work. I think I will stick to this guy.

The Plexi was beautiful !!!

I ll go for the Ori 50 Is awesome Plexi 87 more for pro or wealthy guys Me simple aficionado!

I liked the Origin just as much as the other amps. Your comments though are nothing but cork sniffing. A lot of people do wonderful things with the amp.

I think it's not a shame to buy an affordable amp if it sounds good. To me buying an used Plexi is always risky, because of aesthetics and technical reasons. If you consider electrolytic capacitors can last more or less 15 years... you can image you'll have to replace them all, when you'll receive your old tube amp. In case you already own one... keep it!

If you're comparing two amps, why are there three amps there?

it took me 2 seconds to realize the caps in that old plexi are shot. sounds like fucking shit. $50 in parts and a soldering iron man!

110 - 120 dB(A) ... is just crazy. Watch out !

sounds like evh

how much is labour in vietnam,and then in england,an id like to see someone diassect all the parts in the plexi,an the origin, of course england is noted for taxes,an they get paid way more than the probable 2 or 3 dollars an hour which is probably what vietnamese get, my 50 watt origin head,done went bad,an was oscillating,an now my mini jubilee at over 1300.00 dam dollars is not right eighther as i wait on them to give me a refund....i love the looks,an i have a 93 model,...1987x plexi reissue im afraid of,it sounds way incredible,an will bring the house down,an there around 2000.00 used or more.....made in england.

I own a 1987x 50 watter. Lemme tell ya, I get all kinds of sweet amazing Marshall tones outta that bad boy! I play it thru a Carvin 4x12 stereo cab with greenbacks. My setup blows away a Mesa 50 watt recto running v30’s. So I know the origin don’t stand a freaking chance! 😂😂😂😂

Ok - KO!

I actually liked the sound of the origin better!!!

I’m not going to buy the Origin or a vintage Plexi. I am going to sell all my guitars, sell all my amps. I give up. Ill never play like this.

Roughly

2:08 4:34

110 ~ 120 db !?!😵☠🙉