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Martin Nova Post-Saturn Reusable Rocket 

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Nova was a series of NASA's rocket designs that were proposed both before and after the Saturn V rocket used in the Apollo program. Nova was NASA's first large launcher proposed in 1958, for missions similar to what Saturn V was subsequently used for. The Nova and Saturn V designs closely mirrored each other in basic concept, power, size, and function. Differences were minor but practical, and the Saturn was ultimately selected for the Apollo program, largely because it would reuse existing facilities to a greater extent and could make it to the pad somewhat earlier.
During a series of post-Apollo studies in the late 1960s, considerations for a crewed mission to Mars revealed the need for boosters much larger than Apollo's, and a new series of designs with as many as eight Rocketdyne F-1 engines were developed under the Nova name (along with the Saturn MLV). The image of the Nova C8 is commonly used as a representative of the entire Nova series, and many references to Nova refer specifically to these post-Apollo versions. The two series of designs were, essentially, separate, but shared their name. Thus, "Nova" does not refer to a specific rocket design, just a rocket larger than the Saturn V in most cases. Nova was the name used by NASA in the early 1960s for a super booster in the 10 to 20 million pound thrust range.
By the end of 1963, NASA had shifted its focus away from the need for massive launch vehicles. Studies on the Saturn V had already commenced, showing that with solid strap-on boosters, it could deliver up to a million pounds into orbit without requiring new vehicles or facilities. More importantly, many at NASA envisioned the successor to the Saturn V as a reusable winged shuttle that could land on airstrips. Consequently, the Nova program was quietly cancelled in 1964. Throughout the 1960s, innovators like Truax and Bono continued to promote ambitious designs for very large or single-stage-to-orbit vehicles, such as Sea Dragon and Rombus. However, without political backing for human colonization of space or Mars exploration, the demand for such large launch vehicles has yet to arise.

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@mrfriendhorror
@mrfriendhorror 14 часов назад
Oh man, I absolutely love this aesthetic. The music, vintage filter and cgi are just brilliant
@trojanthedog
@trojanthedog 8 часов назад
Or Hazegrey has a working alternate reality camera that samples film from nearby 'what might have been' Earths.
@Vespuchian
@Vespuchian 7 часов назад
The smooth transition from the filmgrain & 4:5 ratio to clear widescreen is also very well done. Easy to miss if you weren't watching for it, quality editing.
@therathalosabusnardo923
@therathalosabusnardo923 15 часов назад
You outdo yourself with each video! The historical footage filter/sequences are incredible.
@TheKeenTribe
@TheKeenTribe 15 часов назад
Another incredible masterpiece! Fantastic job!
@CraigCholar
@CraigCholar 8 часов назад
Fantastic job creating that vintage film projector vibe. in the 60s my dad was stationed at Norton AFB in SoCal when it was the Audio/Visual lab for the Air Force. One time he brought home some film reels and a projector that he checked out from the A/V lab and showed us kids clips from the Mercury and Gemini missions (Apollo had not yet flown any crewed missions). Anyway, Hazegrayart replicates the visuals of that era quite well. The only thing missing is a simulated break in the film where the screen goes solid white while the projectionist curses a blue streak in the background audio. 😀
@PetesGuide
@PetesGuide 8 часов назад
I was the class A/V geek in first grade, (16mm & film strips with cassette audio) and don’t remember any blue streaks in any of our material. Were blue streaks a USAF-only defect?😮
@steveneppler5301
@steveneppler5301 12 часов назад
Another outstanding video....Brilliant. Loved hearing the voice of Cliff Charlesworth on the ascent....
@WolfeSaber9933
@WolfeSaber9933 15 часов назад
What could have been before SpaceX. It wasn't that long ago that the Angry Astronaut did a video comparing the Nova concept rocket, using videos like this one, to that of SpaceX's Starship.
@Muonium1
@Muonium1 12 часов назад
the pontoon floater things are extra sussy tho.
@WolfeSaber9933
@WolfeSaber9933 10 часов назад
@@Muonium1 At least it wouldn't need a barge, though a real version would have landed on its side.
@kenshi_cv2407
@kenshi_cv2407 6 часов назад
You make it sound like a bad thing lol. Propulsive landing for the win.
@ajds
@ajds 11 часов назад
Gorgeous as expected - the vintage effects are cute. But I did not like the gate guard feverishly saluting with his left hand - looked like he was convulsing. But the sound effects were spot on.
@Battlemode-l9p
@Battlemode-l9p 15 часов назад
My overall most favorite rocket
@RHM2116
@RHM2116 13 часов назад
Another crazy and beautiful project by Hazegrayart ❤️ The Super Saturn V!!!
@DanielMcCool95
@DanielMcCool95 9 часов назад
Dude, Your production quality keeps getting better and better. Fantastic Work man, please keep it up
@ChrisDrake-fn7nu
@ChrisDrake-fn7nu 10 часов назад
Wow! that flight and landing was awesome.
@mbmurphy777
@mbmurphy777 15 часов назад
Love the music!
@tamtamich4
@tamtamich4 12 часов назад
I wanted this video for a long time!
@marksinclair701
@marksinclair701 10 часов назад
Lovely work. How does that landing work? Looked like it was floating with the legs on top of the water. Some sort of inflatable system?
@fridaycaliforniaa236
@fridaycaliforniaa236 8 часов назад
Yup, inflatable legs. Strange concept, to be honest ^^
@No.Inkognito
@No.Inkognito 10 часов назад
as always.. like the operator!
@blurglide
@blurglide 14 часов назад
Very cool retro work. It seems like it couldn't float like that stably though.
@captaindaedalus1
@captaindaedalus1 4 часа назад
This is real artwork here. All the details must have taken forever to include.
@MichaelRehse
@MichaelRehse 10 часов назад
Wieder einmal ein Video für Raumfahrtfans 👍
@antoninbesse795
@antoninbesse795 5 часов назад
A triumph. Fantastic video.
@inspectormills3290
@inspectormills3290 15 часов назад
One of your best. Thanks
@randycampbell6307
@randycampbell6307 4 часа назад
Wow! Iwo got bigger! (Actually was a helicopter landing ship, not an aircraft carrier :) ) Great work as always! Thanks
@jameswilson5165
@jameswilson5165 11 часов назад
Ok, THIS 'Could have happened' video is an excellent example of why so many older people like me, who watched the moon landings, are PISSED at any government interference of SpaceX. NASA and the US Congress. You Had Your Chance! Now, Stand Down and get the heck out of the way! You have put this entire nation At Risk! Stand Down!
@chrischeshire6528
@chrischeshire6528 9 часов назад
Couldn't agree with you more. Politicians only interested in "what's in it for me".
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx 5 часов назад
Yeah, almost. Now forget your silly nationalities;• your national leaders put entire humanity at risk, just for their ridiculous power play. 🚀🏴‍☠️🎸
@randycampbell6307
@randycampbell6307 5 часов назад
Er, who do you think is paying SpaceX to do all this stuff? And as they are paying,(with our money) for what SpaceX is doing, or actually NOT doing which is the main point, we're allowed oversight and explanations when things don't go right. I'm of the same generation (or near enough) as you and I understand the reason the PUBLIC fully supported cutting NASA after the moon landings. There was never enough public interest until very recently in doing more in space so there was no money for it. Much like there is literally no actual market for Starship and really no interest in using it commercially which is pretty much WHY NASA is paying for it and as such, again, we've a right to keep SpaceX under scrutiny on the way it's spending OUR money. The government isn't "interfering" with SpaceX but holding SpaceX to existing environment, federal and state regulation violations. Keep very much in mind that Musk CHOSE to do what he's doing where it's being done despite the problems and issues this would raise above and beyond simply testing his rockets. He's essentially used NASA's need for the HLS as a cudgel against oversight and regulation from other agencies and it's telling that this no longer works so well and actions of SpaceX are coming to light.
@anomatoor
@anomatoor 4 минуты назад
@@randycampbell6307 I just want to add that SpaceX doesn't only get its money from the Government (the government is still a large portion nonetheless), there is a market for Falcon 9, Crew Dragon, and Starship. There are often commercial Crew Dragon missions, and SpaceX often does rideshares and other private launches, furthermore Star link makes some money too. Plus, Starship will open the doors for much cheaper and larger payload, like that of commercial space stations, large earth satellites and more. This doesn't make your point irrelevant or anything, just want to point out that what you said about there "being no market for Starship" is wrong and that SpaceX doesn't just get it's money from NASA alone.
@ArjunaKunti
@ArjunaKunti 15 часов назад
This was von Braun's first idea of reusability of first stages. Why haven't we these rockets since 60 years?
@mbmurphy777
@mbmurphy777 15 часов назад
We had the space shuttle instead
@ohppig1
@ohppig1 13 часов назад
Big parachutes are easy to imagine and very very difficult to make work.
@ArjunaKunti
@ArjunaKunti 12 часов назад
@@ohppig1 what about more smaller parachute?
@ohppig1
@ohppig1 12 часов назад
@@ArjunaKunti Same problem (see SpaceX Crew Dragon and all the problems they had trying to use NASA's simulations of three-parachute systems when Dragon needed four)
@GrilledCheeseSandwichReal
@GrilledCheeseSandwichReal 2 часа назад
This is incredible! Would you ever consider doing a tutorial on the engine plumes?
@spartan120_3
@spartan120_3 5 часов назад
Absolutely love seeing each new video you release, especially the Orion videos. And I was wondering if you could potentially do a video for the Orion Nuclear Space Battleship.
@modelermark172
@modelermark172 6 часов назад
Excellent! Thanks for sharing this vision of what might-have-been-but-wasn't-quite with us! For a future project, please consider a video showing the flight profile of the "Willy Ley Orbital Rocket" model kit. This was originally a Monogram offering in the late 1950's that was just recently reissued by Atlantis Models this year. I'm sure this would make an impressive video! 731st Like.
@DragonSFS
@DragonSFS 15 часов назад
A pretty cool concept
@LDTV22OfficialChannel
@LDTV22OfficialChannel 6 часов назад
This is the third Nova animation you've done. Also, before it goes widescreen it almost looks like a model from a Gerry Anderson show.
@PetesGuide
@PetesGuide 8 часов назад
This is wonderful! I keep learning about interesting rockets from you. Can you show a Starship v3 full stack next to this for a size comparison?
@glenn_r_frank_author
@glenn_r_frank_author 12 часов назад
why did the booster have landing legs if it just splashed down in the ocean?
@saundby
@saundby 10 часов назад
Reduce the degree of seawater exposure of the engines. Though the dunk tests of the H-1 engine came out fine, there was still concern about the metallurgical effects of seawater exposure so the desire was to minimize it and hose it off as soon as possible post-recovery. The hope was that keeping it upright would help drain any water that gets in behind the injector plate.
@_RandomPea
@_RandomPea 10 часов назад
Sounds and feels like an episode of thunderbirds 🎉🎉😂 amazing!
@campbellmays9900
@campbellmays9900 3 часа назад
I’ve always wondered if Thunderbirds was the future of a universe where these rockets actually came to be.
@kaelandin
@kaelandin 6 часов назад
Imagine the g force that thing has to hold up against with that turn 4:15
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch 15 часов назад
Merci! 👍💪✌
@vitalegvitalegov
@vitalegvitalegov 4 часа назад
00:18 Alconauts on guard
@jamesmmcgill
@jamesmmcgill 13 часов назад
In this alternate timeline: - John F. Kennedy survived the attempt on his life in Dallas, Texas and proceeded to campaign for the ‘64 election. - In order to make his lunar promise come true, John F. Kennedy approved the test of Nova rocket, set on October 5, 1964, a month before the election. - In the end, Kennedy’s space vision defeats Goldwater’s nuclear proliferation.
@LDTV22OfficialChannel
@LDTV22OfficialChannel 6 часов назад
PEACE!
@randycampbell6307
@randycampbell6307 5 часов назад
Er, Kennedy was heavily re-thinking the lunar goal before he was assassinated and it seems mostly likely he would have cut NASA back rather than poured more money into it. Gemini had already beaten most of the Soviet work in space and they were only falling more and more behind so that they likely would have accepted his offer of a "joint" mission rather than Apollo
@thecocomonk2657
@thecocomonk2657 13 часов назад
At first I thought the first stage was a giant SRB.
@GA-br8wj
@GA-br8wj 15 часов назад
Post Saturn means it can get to Uranus
@LDTV22OfficialChannel
@LDTV22OfficialChannel 6 часов назад
LOL
@rapidthrash1964
@rapidthrash1964 15 часов назад
Is the audio track from Apollo 4?
@skeefiez11
@skeefiez11 12 часов назад
better and better!
@Kkj657
@Kkj657 15 часов назад
Awesome!!!
@SebastianWellsTL
@SebastianWellsTL 10 часов назад
Love it!
@doltsbane
@doltsbane 14 часов назад
People had way more imagination back in the Sixties. If you're looking for something a little different, how about a video about Gerald Bull's space gun?
@bc1969214
@bc1969214 13 часов назад
That guy was interesting. I remember the HBO movie with Frank Langella playing Bull.
@alittletall19
@alittletall19 14 часов назад
If rocket has to be this shape.. we prefer Starwar. 😂
@AyahAdilla
@AyahAdilla 15 часов назад
Is look like Caseoh rocket
@av_kovko
@av_kovko 10 часов назад
Predsessor SpaceX Starship
@TinyHouseHomestead
@TinyHouseHomestead 15 часов назад
Now we know where SpaceX got the idea! 😱😝🤪🤣👍👍🇺🇸
@saundby
@saundby 10 часов назад
Von Braun's plan had always been to make the first stage recoverable. Our plan was to begin recovery tests using the second build of Saturn V rockets thanks to the extra thrust and mass margins of the F-1A engines. Both Johnson and Nixon nixed the second build.
@randycampbell6307
@randycampbell6307 4 часа назад
@@saundby Congress actually, they had the power of the purse. NASA post Apollo had little need for more than a few Saturn V's and since they weren't going to be any cheaper if you bought 4 or 20 Congress nixed the second order. Johnson proposed an expanded budget, (much less than NASA liked but it gave them some of the projects they wanted for Apollo Applications Program) but Congress vetoed it and kept cutting NASA funding. Keep in mind the public was all for the cuts, especially once Apollo 11 "beat' the Russians.
@JRvonP
@JRvonP 10 часов назад
Glad you made a decent video again instead of those ugly shorts (mobile phone sh**), you are a great artist
@Muonium1
@Muonium1 12 часов назад
0:20 worker comes to work s-faced drunk and security guard tells him to get to work anyway??
@saundby
@saundby 10 часов назад
The worker is the one in the hard hat. The guard is the one who's been hitting the bottle. And yeah, it happened. :D Folks drank like fish back in those days. Pretty sure the worker (not uniformed) is mocking the guard with that salute. :D :D :D
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