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@diesel4lg
@diesel4lg 3 месяца назад
I won’t be surprised if that Pramac Ducati becomes mysteriously slow over the rest of the year. 😮😮😂😂
@md-8866
@md-8866 3 месяца назад
I still think there was foul play with Martin's tire issue last year.
@bradhone9168
@bradhone9168 3 месяца назад
Lots of technical difficulties
@gdmonks1959
@gdmonks1959 3 месяца назад
They already have!
@JoeEngineersThings
@JoeEngineersThings 3 месяца назад
So slow that you could call them Pramac Yamaha.
@rahulkadiyan332
@rahulkadiyan332 3 месяца назад
There is the reason why satellite riders don’t win championship😂, for sure lot of mysterious crashes coming, coz of soo many electronics…one day Martin will be fast and next day on gravel, hope he gets a bike that can beat Ducati in aprilia
@chrisdadda
@chrisdadda 3 месяца назад
I can never understand why a rider has to decide the next season’s ride DURING THE SEASON!!!! There should be 30 day “Free Agency” period after the season for this to get sorted out! I applaud JM89 controlling his future and going to a manufacturer that WANTS him!! Well Done Jorge!
@captaintoyota3171
@captaintoyota3171 3 месяца назад
Well i mean multiple time world champ with data that is unbelievable he got the seat
@jasonking4209
@jasonking4209 3 месяца назад
With Alexi Espargo leaving and Martin and him being such good friends I'm not surprised at all. Maybe a little surprised 😮
@stuartgraham9329
@stuartgraham9329 3 месяца назад
Marc and Pecco same team. Boy who would want to be that team manager. GOOD LUCK
@InsertNameHere-pk9lx
@InsertNameHere-pk9lx 3 месяца назад
Aprilia needed a star and now they have one
@christosmedia93
@christosmedia93 3 месяца назад
we dont know if he is a star tho.. we only saw him on the best bike by far!! I hope he is tho!!! and he seems he is!! just saying we didnt see him on a different bike
@2_5_8_11metaka
@2_5_8_11metaka 3 месяца назад
​@@christosmedia93 Martin is overrated and next season will prove that..
@ardhianyu421
@ardhianyu421 3 месяца назад
@@2_5_8_11metaka no one is overrating Martin, you guys are underrating him. He has worked really hard to be able to reach at the same level with the factory boys, runner up last year, leading the championship this year, beating some tracks lap record, what else he has to prove? I can't understand you guys mindset at all...
@nuclearnadal8850
@nuclearnadal8850 3 месяца назад
Maverick >>> Martin
@adhiatmajamy4617
@adhiatmajamy4617 3 месяца назад
@@nuclearnadal8850nah
@charismajayamandalap6650
@charismajayamandalap6650 3 месяца назад
Honestly, gigi already choose marq when he go to Gresini. Who doesnt want the guy who can blow Audi/Ducati sales? Its like choosing between Rossi and Pedrosa. And IMO marq has low salary then martin, he doesnt care about money, he wants personal glory
@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains
@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains 3 месяца назад
that's dumb of ducati. mm93 clearly doesn't care about money, he wants to win. that's why he joined ducati and they got pressured into moving mm93 into ducati factory at the risk of losing 2 very good young riders enea and martin. even if ducati doesn't sign mm93 to factory, high chance mm93 won't leave a championship bike at pramac. now they lost martin to aprilia and there's a chance bestia might leave too. 0/10 move.
@Rascallucci
@Rascallucci 3 месяца назад
I have told you guys that Marc wants both the latest spec factory bike as well as full factory support. Only the media falsely came out with a story that Marc had relaxed on his stance. That never happened. That report came from Marc's comment on wanting the latest spec factory bike that he didn't care which colour. But, what the media left out was Marc also said "brand". Being in a factory team with full factory support is a huge deal. There is a reason why both Marc and Martin wanted to be in the factory team. For one, just in case you didn't know, in the MotoGP era which started in 2002, no satellite rider has ever won a single world championship in the entire 22 years. On top of that, I said there is just no way Audi would allow Ducati to let Marc walk. Also, if they were seriously banking on Marc in joining Pramac, don't you think they should have at least sounded him out first to see how feasible that idea was before offering the factory seat to Martin?! Ducati did this to themselves. LOL.
@cxjar5890
@cxjar5890 3 месяца назад
I don't believe Ducati didn't know that Marquez didn't want to go to Pramac because they never asked him and only found out at the press conference. There's no way.
@Rascallucci
@Rascallucci 3 месяца назад
@@cxjar5890 That's a good point. That depends on whether you believe in La Gazzetta dello Sport's story. If what you say is true, then one could argue logic says Ducati probably never offered Martin the job. It wouldn't make sense, if Marc had already told Ducati he ain't going to Pramac, why would they tell Martin he got the job and ended up having to do a 180 turn?
@wIndstar47
@wIndstar47 3 месяца назад
​@cxjar5890 Isn't a rookie from Moto 2 coming to ducati next year 🤔...? Maybe he will join pramac Ducati. And I think Padovani will get Marc Marquez a 2025 spec for next year, because Gresini wants to keep him.
@Rascallucci
@Rascallucci 3 месяца назад
@@wIndstar47Did you hear what Claudio had to say about the marketing opportunities with Marc in the team? What do you think? Still sign a rookie into the factory team instead of a 8-time world champion?
@wIndstar47
@wIndstar47 3 месяца назад
@Rascallucci I thought this because of Nadia Padovani reply!? She was willing to do anything to keep Marc Marquez 93, like giving him an updated 2025 factory 🏍 bike for next season just to keep him at Gresini Ducati. I didn't look any further into the situation after that ...
@sburns2421
@sburns2421 3 месяца назад
Pecco at the peak of his career and a resurgent and healthy Marquez on the same bike will be great to watch. I see many Ducati 1-2 next year.
@DGH19
@DGH19 3 месяца назад
thx for doing this so fast guys lol, certainly very unfortunate for Martin here no doubt, but with Marc saying no re going to Pramac on GP25 that prob came as a bit of a shock to Ducati, i was leaning towards him staying with Gresini on GP25 (Ducati doing a 5th allocation for GP25's etc) you also have to 100% look at $$$ here, for sure Marc > Martin re marketing and selling seats no question there (Claudio even said this already). Marc going to another manufacture and winning a 7th title was prob too much for Gigi to overlook. Again very unfortunate for Martin here but end of the day its a business like anything else... we will find out soon enough. I'm waiting for the Ducati Corse press release... Martin to Aprilia already confirmed. Enea going to KTM tech 3
@JarrettDorough
@JarrettDorough 3 месяца назад
Wow, such a pleasant surprise. Well two actually. I am pleased to see Martin make the move to Aprilia. I am also pleased to see CRASH is back. I deleted you guys from my podcast feed when you guys called it quits. I did not realize you were back, so happy to see
@danmc_2783
@danmc_2783 3 месяца назад
Both MotoGP and F! are having the silliest of silly seasons and I'm so here for it lol I imagine a lot has to do with both having major regulation changes in 2026 making next year the potential last chance to "guarantee" a winning ride/drive. I think that both championships having had a period of dominance from a single manufacturer but where we're now seeing convergence with other marques taking wins and potentially threatening that dominance has added extra spice to it too Not only could this be your last chance to guarantee a front running ride before the rules changes potentially reshuffles the pack but you may just be the rider/driver that knocks Ducati/Red Bull off their respective perches and close out that regulatory era on top
@stevenjackson5541
@stevenjackson5541 3 месяца назад
Ducati will sabotage Martin. They don’t want him to win anymore.
@riz4141
@riz4141 3 месяца назад
i dont think so, if jorge win he win on ducati, nothing changes
@abdulrahimsuit5315
@abdulrahimsuit5315 3 месяца назад
Bagnaia already said I prefer Italian over Spanish.
@dkm8350
@dkm8350 3 месяца назад
Imagine Jorge taking the #1 plate to Aprilia
@Terraceview
@Terraceview 3 месяца назад
@@riz4141 BS they sabotaged him last year already. Pecco is the chosen one this year again.
@riz4141
@riz4141 3 месяца назад
@@Terraceview yea he got sabotaged, and his team is know nothing... Nonsense story
@connorrimo2730
@connorrimo2730 3 месяца назад
I was sat at casanova on the hillside and saw Beastias overtake on the last corner, the Italians went absolutely mental the atmosphere was amazing!
@OzzieBird
@OzzieBird 3 месяца назад
Good for Jorge, excellent move !!! Ducati cant decide?, Jorge will decide for you 😊 Now Mir can go to Pramac and they dont have to change any monograms 😊 Can Aprilia pick up Enea too? 😮 That would be so sweet. Has VR46 burned the Yamaha bridge? Either way do Fabio G and Bezz want to stay on year old bikes?
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
That’s the problem Ducati had decided and they chose Marc after his announcement he wouldn’t ride for Pramac over Martin
@LanoLourenco
@LanoLourenco 3 месяца назад
What a twist!!!! Acosta was right, things at Ducati are like a soap opera! Probably Martin wont get a single new update now. Pecco is home free
@sburns2421
@sburns2421 3 месяца назад
Contractually they probably have to make the updates available. if Pramac goes to Yamaha however, surely there is also a clause that allows Ducati to protect its IP after that becomes a reality.
@michaelniemi
@michaelniemi 3 месяца назад
Pramac should just sit and not confirm if they are extending their deal with Ducati. Let them & Marc wait. Haha. Ducati are morons.
@sburns2421
@sburns2421 3 месяца назад
@@michaelniemi Pramac loses leverage in this situation. It is now a near certainty Marquez is going to Lenovo Ducati. I'm sure Ducati would like to keep them, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if they went to Yamaha and the back of the field. They have until 31 July to renew which seems like ages from now. If they go to Yamaha though, WHO WOULD WANT TO RIDE FOR THEM???
@LanoLourenco
@LanoLourenco 3 месяца назад
@@sburns2421 it sure is a weird reality now. Ducati will find a way not to let jorge win, they cant risk the #1 to go to Aprilia
@sburns2421
@sburns2421 3 месяца назад
@@LanoLourenco "electronic issues" ;)
@ori2425
@ori2425 3 месяца назад
Does Mark drop Red Bull?
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 3 месяца назад
So, where does Beast go … ? I thought his late effort on Sunday was too little, too late …
@CrashMotoGP
@CrashMotoGP 3 месяца назад
From reports, it appears to be GASGAS.
@sburns2421
@sburns2421 3 месяца назад
It is not a certainty that Maverick will sign for Aprilia. Martin joining means Mav will likely not be the #1 rider. But he could be #1 at Honda if the offer rumors are true. Repsol leaving Honda may mean no more preference for at least one Spanish rider on the team however. Bastianini to Aprilia with Martin might be the only duo able to challenge Ducati for the team championship.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
When TNT had an interview at Mugello with Ducati it sounded pretty certain Bastianini would be staying in the Ducati family somewhere next season
@kurtnielsen6684
@kurtnielsen6684 3 месяца назад
Maybe Martin was gonna do that the whole time. Never know!
@convertorx
@convertorx 3 месяца назад
There will be trouble ahead-Ducati.
@shermantincher3417
@shermantincher3417 3 месяца назад
With the money Yamaha spent on Fabio, and some improvements this season. I believe Yamaha could suprise everyone next season if they want to. They are very capable of giving their riders winning bikes.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
€100 bet they dont
@angusstevenson3090
@angusstevenson3090 3 месяца назад
Espagero to Honda test team ?
@TheInfantry98
@TheInfantry98 3 месяца назад
It would truly benefit Honda
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
No, Miller is
@captainsambit
@captainsambit 3 месяца назад
First Jorge announced he is moving out of Pramac at the end of the season followed by Marc rejecting that possibility. Now the bosses have nothing more to create a hype about. Guess it is time for an official announcement already from Ducati. Certainly fantastic decision by Jorge. Gave it right on Ducati's face. Really wish Enea gets on a decent ride with either KTM or Aprilia next season.
@tonyb9735
@tonyb9735 3 месяца назад
" Certainly fantastic decision by Jorge. Gave it right on Ducati's face. " That will only be true if he wins a world title on the Aprilia.
@ReinaElvira0101
@ReinaElvira0101 3 месяца назад
​@@tonyb9735He have the possibility
@Michael62nyc
@Michael62nyc 3 месяца назад
Martin would have been a much better investment long term for Ducati.
@KjejejKjdjdj
@KjejejKjdjdj 3 месяца назад
I think why martin moved to aprilla so unexpected because martin gave ducati a deadline on a desicion and i think they didnt take i seriously.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
Completely wrong the reason are in a report online
@russelldheilman
@russelldheilman 3 месяца назад
Wow, I guess Ducati could put the knife in deeper and give MM the 24 now and give JM the 23. That would sting.
@Gcanno
@Gcanno 3 месяца назад
Contracts won't allow that with Martin , could Marc get upgrades won't happen either Morbidelli and someone else have those factory 23 Ducati's.
@romelvillanueva5206
@romelvillanueva5206 3 месяца назад
Nahhh, that might be a big mistake, he will win the championship if he has the 24 specs bike of ducs
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
@@Gcanno Morbidelli has the other 2024 spec not 2023
@smith2781
@smith2781 3 месяца назад
As much as I feel sorry for Martin. Ducati would of been mad to let Marc go. Even the Ducati engineers said his bike round Mugello was a good second a lap slower than the current Ducati, he should of been no where near the front but he made up that difference. If he went else where next year and was given a bike just half a second off the pace, he would be a very serious threat.
@davidnelson6893
@davidnelson6893 3 месяца назад
That is ok with me Peace out
@mattbristo6933
@mattbristo6933 3 месяца назад
Marquez outsmarted Ducati and pushed them into this decision.
@jpmorgen5726
@jpmorgen5726 3 месяца назад
I never knew how slow the Aprilias are....
@skyeking69
@skyeking69 3 месяца назад
One thing nobody has said....what if Enena starts winning races? or leads the championship? Hummm? Italian team Italian riders and Pecco wants him.....plus the sponsorship problem ..Red Bull ( Marc) and Monster. ( Factory Ducati)
@sannelrecord7235
@sannelrecord7235 3 месяца назад
Menerjemahkan teks dengan kamera Only Marquez93 is multi-talented, has the best skills, the others only win because of motorbikes. Greetings from Indonesia🙏
@giovannigarbelotto3323
@giovannigarbelotto3323 3 месяца назад
And meaby Bastianini to KTM crazy season
@micketkeong
@micketkeong 3 месяца назад
Maybe he will go to pramac
@Xhgne-rabbitChen
@Xhgne-rabbitChen 3 месяца назад
WOW ....
@garrycoates2147
@garrycoates2147 3 месяца назад
I am a big MM fan, but this is a mistake by Ducati. They are potentially losing 2 top ducati riders to keep him (Bastianini and Martin). Wait to see how Mark works on his team mate Pecco next year and it may be 3. Marquez is not a team player.
@stuartgraham9329
@stuartgraham9329 3 месяца назад
Every factory now has their Alien (Ducati has 2) except Honda, who doesn’t count. Bet you never thought you would see someone write that.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
Will Marquez will be in Red? will this completely ruin the team dynamics? It obvious Pecco is happy with Bastianini as his team mate So much for the reports coming from Italy before the weekend Martin had signed for Ducati
@connorrimo2730
@connorrimo2730 3 месяца назад
When Miller was Peccos teammate he also said he wanted Miller over Beastia. He has to say that, It's his current teammate.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
@@connorrimo2730 Ross Brawn (F1) was invited to Mugello at the weekend by Claudio Domenicali, good friends apparently, he was asked about MM becoming Factory rider It was him that said Ducati are spoiled for riches at the moment and Martin would be a better fit for the team Having team mates that don’t get on can be bad for the team, and Pecco and Marc do not like each other
@connorrimo2730
@connorrimo2730 3 месяца назад
​@@ianjohnson1207 I see your point and I agree they wouldn't ever be friends because of the rossi rivalry but Martin would be just as fierce a teammate probably more, also Marc has huge experience on developing a bike and Jorge has only ever ridden a ducati.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
@@connorrimo2730 Well Marc has only ridden a Honda, and how has that worked out! Where are the Honda’s last last DNF DNF Pecco and Martin were team mates before
@erikahuxley
@erikahuxley 3 месяца назад
@@connorrimo2730 Marc riding style is very unique to himself, it works for him but not other riders. I would not count too much from him in term of bike development, but the good thing with Ducati is they take data from various riders, the success of the bike is that more than one rider can be fast with it, this was not the case with Honda which geared toward only one rider. It's probably Pedrosa who was overlooked in contribution to the bike development, KTM hired him for that reason.
@hassanmunene5406
@hassanmunene5406 3 месяца назад
Now next year we shall see who is the top dog in Motorgp. Who is the best rider. They will both have the same machines .
@WayneMatthews-lz3gt
@WayneMatthews-lz3gt 3 месяца назад
Short sighted wrong choice picking Marquess look what he did to honda
@TheGoatfister
@TheGoatfister 3 месяца назад
This is about big money. The MotoGP circus wants the Marquez pull. Ducati want the Marquez pull to sell bikes, the sponsors are desperate for a piece of the Marquez pull. The fans want to see RACING. Like Marquez making 45 overtakes in three consecutive races. The only ones not wanting it are butt hurt Rossi fanboys.
@obsidian....
@obsidian.... 3 месяца назад
31:28 Well that aged well 😆
@CrashMotoGP
@CrashMotoGP 3 месяца назад
😂 glad we recorded a podcast after!
@obsidian....
@obsidian.... 3 месяца назад
@@CrashMotoGP 100% lol... I'm glad you inserted that in front of the original podcast 🤣
@CoralD19
@CoralD19 3 месяца назад
🔥🔥
@caseyleonard1327
@caseyleonard1327 3 месяца назад
I think Martin wanted to get the Aprilia ride before bastannini. In case he didn't get the Ducati seat
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
Martin was told the seat was his, until Marc said he wouldn’t ride for Pramac Then it all changed Bastianini to KTM
@Neo3rdx
@Neo3rdx 3 месяца назад
Marquez go to Vr46
@sozo26
@sozo26 3 месяца назад
😂
@marvwen7018
@marvwen7018 3 месяца назад
2025 mark marques In factory bike.. I hope ducati price will not increase 2025..
@Billy2w
@Billy2w 3 месяца назад
Wrong decision. Ducati taking the best two riders on currently the best bike thus removing all competion. How boring. Best thing that can happen next year is that Martin on the Aprillia and Decosta on KTM clean up leaving Ducati with nothing
@shermantincher3417
@shermantincher3417 3 месяца назад
I see Martin winning the championship for Aprilia, next year. Ducati did him dirty. I believe they will regret this in the future. Ducati looking to the past. Aprilia, looking to the future.
@Prikki2k
@Prikki2k 3 месяца назад
It could all go wrong with Marc to Ducati, He will jump on a 2025 Bike without even riding the 2024 bike which could be too big of a jump and he could be playing catch up the whole year and don't even think about an injury.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
What! He’d never even sat on a Ducati until the end of last year, and look what he’s doing Get real
@Prikki2k
@Prikki2k 3 месяца назад
@@ianjohnson1207 Pipe down, I stated nothing as fact, it's just a possibility. Marc is a GOAT for sure but there is still the chance that he doesn't jell with a new bike. This happens to many riders just look at Miguel Oliveira, Jack Miller or what happened to Franco Morbidelli when he went to Factory Yamaha.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
@@Prikki2k It’s a possibility I’ll win the lotto this weekend, highly unlikely, why even say it then Drama for nothing
@kylepoma
@kylepoma 3 месяца назад
I feel like after he lost 2nd place at Mugello he looked so deeply defeated because he felt the Ducati factory seat slip from his grasp. His face doesn’t look excited to be at Aprilia
@erikahuxley
@erikahuxley 3 месяца назад
dumb comment
@TyDeJesus72
@TyDeJesus72 3 месяца назад
I'm so excited to see that Martinator finally leave Dumbcati...lol see what they did in Italy, had peccos bike way faster than the other ducatis. On purpose for the Italian fans. Oh give me a break!!! Jorge to Aprilia is the best news ever! Joe roberts winning is a big deal considering Aprilia wanted him a few years ago. With Miguel leaving trackhouse and Aleix leaving Aprilia , I think Joe will be on the satellite trackhouse Aprilia, but who's riding with Jorge if batmav leaves.....oohhhhhhh! Interesting to say the least!
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
Take your conspiracies elsewhere
@GaziMashrurRahman
@GaziMashrurRahman 3 месяца назад
Martinator or marinator?
@russellthomson1775
@russellthomson1775 3 месяца назад
MM will always be no. 2 to an Italian in Italian team 🤣🤣🤣
@HitmanTheSwede
@HitmanTheSwede 3 месяца назад
Ducati dont need MM
@bradhone9168
@bradhone9168 3 месяца назад
God bless the silly season🤣
@wIndstar47
@wIndstar47 3 месяца назад
What is so silly about this season?!? This one of the most exciting motogp of the decade. Pedro Acosta, Jorge Martin, Pecco Bagnaia & Marc Marquez ....
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
@@wIndstar47 This part of the season is called the “silly season” because of all the silly rumours about rider’s contracts and where they will be next season
@1AOR1
@1AOR1 3 месяца назад
I can see martin getting frustrated next season that the aprilia isn't as good as the ducati and I'm not sure he has the head to deal with it. Could obviously be completely wrong but just my thoughts
@2_5_8_11metaka
@2_5_8_11metaka 3 месяца назад
Martin is overrated, he can't make difference on a inferior bike. He won only 2 races in 2 Moto2 seasons and only 7 races in 3 1/3 seasons with superior Ducati
@MattHobson-cr6xk
@MattHobson-cr6xk 3 месяца назад
Ktm must pay the media a heap of cash they always act like there good bikes there sh!t only reason Pedro can do anything is cause he is 20kg lighter than everyone else put a extra 20kg on his bike he be doing nothing.enea would be better of staying with Ducati if not maybe Yamaha ktm is a death sentence for careers.
@C--A
@C--A 3 месяца назад
Acosta gained 7+ kg in the pre-season. Ps. there's lighter riders than Acosta ie Bastianini, Binder. And smaller height riders ie Bastianini, Binder, Marc Marquez, Martin. Acosta is the real deal. As a rookie regularly out qualifying Binder. Plus out performing Binder in the races!
@MattHobson-cr6xk
@MattHobson-cr6xk 3 месяца назад
@@C--A he can ride without a doubt but look who riders the KTM best Dani and Pedro both of them are tiny but a normal sized rider like pol for example the bike is no where.Pedro is the smallest on the grid brad is 69kg Pedro put on 5kg making him 61kg yes there ain't a 20kg different but a 8kg different in racing terms is huge.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
⁠@@MattHobson-cr6xk Brad is 64kg Pedro is 63kg Facts their a bugger when they don’t suit your story It’s not KTM’s fault Jack is going backwards
@MattHobson-cr6xk
@MattHobson-cr6xk 3 месяца назад
@@ianjohnson1207 every rider except one is going backwards and if Brad dropped 8kg over night dude needs to be drug tested.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
@@MattHobson-cr6xk Facts my dear friend, look it up
@sergioj2587
@sergioj2587 3 месяца назад
SWEET , PECCO IS GOING DOWN ,MARC IS GOING TO WIPE THE FLOOR WITH PECCO
@v5808gma
@v5808gma 3 месяца назад
Shocking how Ducati have shunned Martin, guys beat Marquez in every single Grand Prix he's finished since Phillip Island 2022. No rider other than Marquez would fraud a top factory seat with vastly inferior results. Imagine Raul Fernandez getting a factory Aprilia ride just for finishing a few seconds behind Vinales or Espargaro with his year old bike without having beat them outright once and then it justified by his 2021 Moto2 season like 3yrs ago being the most impressive rookie season of the Moto2 era showing that he's obviously got a much higher potential.
@v5808gma
@v5808gma 3 месяца назад
@@valentin9650 Marquez is good again but he isn't the formidable force he was pre injury. Marquez is the sort of rider who picks things up very quickly, the learning the bike is over, if he was just as good as he was pre Jerez 2020, he'd have beaten Martin in more than 0 of the 6 Grand Prix Martin has finished in 2024 and wouldn't be on a 950+ day winless streak.
@C--A
@C--A 3 месяца назад
​@@v5808gma Nonsense lol. I don't like Marc Marquez personally after some of his antics on and off track over the years! But he's only had a mere7 races with a brand new bike (a older inferior one to Bagnaia & Martin) and is 3rd in the standings. Not that far off from the top! By next season Marc will be fully comfortable on the Ducati. Plus have the exact same latest spec bike as Bagnaia.
@sozo26
@sozo26 3 месяца назад
8 time world champion That’s why. Not a fan of his at all
@joker14n
@joker14n 3 месяца назад
I never liked MM until after he got hurt. The commitment he’s shown made me a fan. I don’t think anybody on the current grid has a chance against 2019 MM.
@mignik01
@mignik01 3 месяца назад
The decision to sign Martin when you have Marc Marquez available was a bad decision.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
Well Martin has absolutely nothing to lose now, expect fireworks There will be no holds barred racing from Martin now, he’ll want nothing more than to take the No1 plate to Aprilia I suppose Ducati feared Marc on an Aprilia or KTM more then Martin Keep your enemies close
@cdmc012599
@cdmc012599 3 месяца назад
100%, I don't see how others don't see this. The only thing I can think of is they must be new to GO or think Marquez forgot how to ride. Lol
@lanalan4157
@lanalan4157 3 месяца назад
​@@cdmc012599 big mistake from Ducati...Marc won't beat Pecco....
@sburns2421
@sburns2421 3 месяца назад
Martin should hope to win the championship this year, he may never have a better chance.
@Gcanno
@Gcanno 3 месяца назад
Not true
@Terraceview
@Terraceview 3 месяца назад
Nonsense, where do you get this from?
@sburns2421
@sburns2421 3 месяца назад
@@Gcanno he has to learn a new bike and team His bike will likely not be as good as the Ducs We don’t know how much benefit the other Ducs data are for him currently Pecco and Marc are on factory Ducs
@rahulkadiyan332
@rahulkadiyan332 3 месяца назад
In any case this year it’s not gonna happen, coz Ducati won’t be supporting him anymore
@Michael62nyc
@Michael62nyc 3 месяца назад
No way Ducati gives Martin what he needs to win the championship and take the #1 plate to Aprilia.
@sburns2421
@sburns2421 3 месяца назад
Repsol leaving Honda is quietly one of the bigger stories of the past week. While Honda is really struggling for pace, I never thought they would leave as title sponsor. Where they go and who Honda gets to replace them is the next question, much less who replaces Mir.
@erikahuxley
@erikahuxley 3 месяца назад
They can go to Aprilia.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
It wasn’t unexpected, their current contract ended this year anyway, it was expected, they had already reduced their financial assistance for this season when Marc announced he was leaving That also answers your other comment on why Pramac will stick with Ducati Getting major sponsorship is difficult enough, attracting one when your at the back of the grid on slow Yamaha’s a lot harder
@sburns2421
@sburns2421 3 месяца назад
@@ianjohnson1207 Honda has had ups and downs. The petro industry has had the same. We have had two major financial crises in the past 30 years and other downturns. MotoGP at one point only had about 13 prototypes and the rest super-superbikes. And yet Repsol always stayed with Honda. Saying this was not unexpected, is saying it was expected. Only you would claim that
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
@@sburns2421 Go away and read the reports last year, and the rumours coming out of the paddock, were that Repsol were leaving at the end of this season As for money Repsol like all the major oil industries certainly aren’t short of money, posted profits of nearly a €Billion in the first quarter Repsol don’t want to be seen as backing a losing team at the back of the grid without Marquez You’re still as stubborn as a mule and never ever wrong, at least your are consistent
@sburns2421
@sburns2421 3 месяца назад
@@ianjohnson1207 How is that pledge to mind your own business and not follow me from video to video section working out. You look more than a little stalkerish. Sad you spend your time trying to one-up people on YT when you have so little ammunition. I take your last two comments you EXPECTED Repsol to leave Honda? You would be the only one that expected it. So hats off to you. It's easy to claim predictions after the fact when they have already happened.
@dlantomaz9390
@dlantomaz9390 3 месяца назад
Love him or hate him, MM is one of the best to ever do it and will put everything on the line to win a championship next season. Ducati is taking the risk at the right time.
@erikahuxley
@erikahuxley 3 месяца назад
They have enough advantage that they dont need Marquez to win a championship. If they pick him it's more because of marketing.
@edwmakina
@edwmakina 3 месяца назад
@@erikahuxley Gigi words yesterday: ''Marquez carry the Ducati to another level, the elecction was 100% sportive'' The sub-human yellow P l G S: ''eeeeeeee, marketing marketing''
@marcos7106
@marcos7106 3 месяца назад
I hope that JM wins the title in 24 and does the same for Aprilia in 25
@leonkennedy3065
@leonkennedy3065 3 месяца назад
do you think aprillia can beat ducati ???
@rowanedwards235
@rowanedwards235 3 месяца назад
I'm looking forward to BMW & Toprak Razgatilogue joining MotoGP not to mention Pedro Acosta & KTM, so Aprilia has made a wise decision selecting Martin & Ducati dominance may be diluted, even with Marquez in the saddle
@joeholden2528
@joeholden2528 3 месяца назад
Ducati are banking on pecco beating Martin. Simple as that.
@fredjames9867
@fredjames9867 3 месяца назад
Marquez is going to make this factory team toxic
@cdmc012599
@cdmc012599 3 месяца назад
Martin did say Ducati had until Jun 1st to make him a deal or he was moving on. Does no one remember him saying that last week at Jerez?
@dkm8350
@dkm8350 3 месяца назад
Wrong message by Ducati to young riders by losing Martin.. he was kept in the wings for 3 yrs.. Whomever they sign, Jorge was the man with the most explosive start be it Quali, Sprint or Main race..
@danilsports9107
@danilsports9107 3 месяца назад
im a big 93 fan , but i have to say ducati did martin dirty here.... he deserved it the most said by a Marquez fanboy
@sozo26
@sozo26 3 месяца назад
Thank you 🙏
@thelegendrider6007
@thelegendrider6007 3 месяца назад
Ducati didn't kick Martin you are talking like stupid. Check out Aprilia ceo interview they made a plan to steal Martin from Ducati and Aleix help to convince Martin.
@wIndstar47
@wIndstar47 3 месяца назад
Plus ➕️ Padovani will be giving Marc Marquez in 2025 a up to date 📅 spec motorcycle 🏍 😀. Because she wants to keep MM93 on Gresini Ducati team ...
@Michael62nyc
@Michael62nyc 3 месяца назад
100%.
@andyballard1883
@andyballard1883 3 месяца назад
you can bet Jorge Martins GP25 Pramac Ducati will start to get limited behind the scenes during the rest of the season. There is absolutely no way Ducati bosses will let him win the championship by leveraging their upgrades...you can also bet Marcs GP24 will 'improve' substantially !
@nabstergaming2859
@nabstergaming2859 3 месяца назад
you mean gp24 and 23 respectively
@krip9429
@krip9429 3 месяца назад
its 23 not 24
@KingPoC47
@KingPoC47 3 месяца назад
He’s from the future
@ClassicTrialsChannel
@ClassicTrialsChannel 3 месяца назад
Martin's bike is 2024
@mwangiera
@mwangiera 3 месяца назад
Martin Pecco can’t beat MM antics
@markmitchezee2728
@markmitchezee2728 3 месяца назад
If PRAMAC is Smart .... They go & pick-up Raul Fernandez. I know everybody will think this is Nutt's but Raul has finally clicked & is on the verge of BUSTING-OUT . He has finally made the front of the grid and isn't going away unless somebody is stupid enough to take him away.
@ReinaElvira0101
@ReinaElvira0101 3 месяца назад
Agree
@timakey4678
@timakey4678 3 месяца назад
Marc, whatever you think of him, is one seriously determined, bold, and even ruthless individual, on and off the track.
@faizalmohd9536
@faizalmohd9536 3 месяца назад
Yup agree on that. That is why I am not his fan. He is a sort of will do everything to win.
@57WorksCompany
@57WorksCompany 3 месяца назад
⁠@@faizalmohd9536tell me one legend in motorsport that has a "i wont do everything to win" Thats why you are not his fan, you have no mentality. Rutheless on and off the track? You mean that he stood there obviously not the chosen one for the lenovo seat and saying "pramac is no option". He just tricked ducati with this sentence and martin was saying for years the ducati seat or im gone. Now he is gone 😂😂😂
@57WorksCompany
@57WorksCompany 3 месяца назад
Is that in a positive or negative way 😂. What is ruthless off the track kn a bad way?
@jonathanvandenberg3571
@jonathanvandenberg3571 3 месяца назад
"Whatever you think of him" says it all. He'll never be a legend. Just a great rider in a span of years, but he never had the fans hearts. He bungled that a few years back. True colours always shine through.
@57WorksCompany
@57WorksCompany 3 месяца назад
@@jonathanvandenberg3571 hahahahaha never be a legend?? He already is and ducati wanted him because he is HIM. Maybe not the biggest but best rider in history. He was never a great showman off the track like rossi. He was just known for his riding and nothing more
@mustafajoseph134
@mustafajoseph134 3 месяца назад
Season's kinda screwed.
@Gcanno
@Gcanno 3 месяца назад
I don't think they were going to pay Martin what he believed he was worth .
@marcoschaper1737
@marcoschaper1737 3 месяца назад
If Ducati keeps MM and let JM & Bastianini go, is that a good deal? Keep in mind that Marquez maybe wants to go back to Honda when they are competitive again. For Pecco that means, next year he must be there from the first sprint race, no mistakes allowed
@GregOwens-vh4se
@GregOwens-vh4se 3 месяца назад
MotoGP is so lite right now.
@captaintoyota3171
@captaintoyota3171 3 месяца назад
WSBK as well this yr is legit. Sadly only 12rounds in wsbk
@bradhone9168
@bradhone9168 3 месяца назад
@@captaintoyota3171 Yeah, much better racing, wish there was more
@MartinMcMartin
@MartinMcMartin 3 месяца назад
Ducati doing what it does best, crapping on riders. Taking so long to offer a contract was like giving him the middle finger. Pramac Yamaha 2025
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
Parma’s won’t run Yamaha’s why would they No teams wants to be mid pack at best
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 3 месяца назад
I hope Aprilia not gonna sabotage Jorge Martin next year as a replacement for the retiring Aleix Espargaro.... Martin has tons of potential to become World Champion!
@svig137
@svig137 3 месяца назад
IMHO, they did Martin wrong and picked Marc.. (He isn't his old self)
@yonnymestampo8389
@yonnymestampo8389 3 месяца назад
According to Spanish media the GP23 MM has is a bike with the development Zarco had up until Jerez 2023, so his bike is not exactly the latest evolution of the GP23
@krom26
@krom26 3 месяца назад
Maybe Ducati is sticking with Pecco and Enea.
@westcoast5814
@westcoast5814 3 месяца назад
Im glad for Martinator...MM93 is like a spoilt brat This decision is all abt optics & to get more eyes on Motogp...and we need it so yeah... All abt the narrative...like F1
@GaziMashrurRahman
@GaziMashrurRahman 3 месяца назад
martinator or marinator?
@obsidian....
@obsidian.... 3 месяца назад
This makes sense, for everyone except Martin... What a horrible decision
@T-Bone54
@T-Bone54 3 месяца назад
The PR machine of having Marquez was too much to resist. I think Ducati made the wrong choice, personally, but I suspect Audi might have had something to say about the decision. However, Martin was the future, young and skilled enough to counter the rising threat that will be Pedro Acosta. Marquez, brilliant as he is, is relatively old. At the end of the day, (advertising) money talks.
@ghhh9012
@ghhh9012 3 месяца назад
How old is Martin?
@obsidian....
@obsidian.... 3 месяца назад
​@@ghhh9012He's 26 and Marc is only 5 years older 31...
@MK-xt9hh
@MK-xt9hh 3 месяца назад
I think this was an on-track decision first and foremost. Marc will be there for at least two more contract cycles.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
Bastianini to KTM according to his manager Carlo Pernat
@gerryjamesedwards1227
@gerryjamesedwards1227 3 месяца назад
Ducati have dangled a ride in front of Martin for so long, he's obviously had enough of it. He must feel a little like whatever he did that ride wasn't coming.
@iainbarclay6495
@iainbarclay6495 3 месяца назад
All this last minute news makes me think that Pramac might start to think that the Yamaha deal will look like their best move going forwards? I feel pretty sorry for Bastianini though - what now for him? Could he end up at Trackhouse, or maybe Gas Gas? The nest few weeks should be interesting - with a lot of riders managers working long hours trying to put optimal deals together. Maverick to Honda would be a disaster for him - they have neither the atmosphere he needs to thrive, or a bike he could have confidence on.
@mustafajoseph134
@mustafajoseph134 3 месяца назад
Just crazy news.
@cxjar5890
@cxjar5890 3 месяца назад
Ducati could have kept both riders if they gave Gresini a GP25. Why wouldn't they do that?
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
Because only four 2025 bikes and Pramac have a contract to lease both this season and that’s the deal they want for next There is a team order and Gresini is third in the pecking order
@cxjar5890
@cxjar5890 3 месяца назад
@@ianjohnson1207 So they prefer to lose Martin rather than losing Pramac, l guess it makes sense.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
@@cxjar5890 Martin was told the Factory seat was his until Marc announced he wouldn’t ride for Pramac So Ducati had to make a choice it couldn’t keep both, and here we are, I’m sure this will make Martin determined to win the WC The gloves will be off he got nothing to lose now he’s leaving Ducati expect fireworks
@someshwara1325
@someshwara1325 3 месяца назад
pramac racing will go to yamaha bro?
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
Yea let’s lease a bike that’s at the back of the grid Makes great sense
@Kneedragon1962
@Kneedragon1962 3 месяца назад
~ so obviously Pedro is going to the factory KTM squad. They're not going to demote Brad, so that's Jack down to Gas Gas. Given Brad's got more than double the points Jack's got, that's not unreasonable. I'd do the same myself. Depending on the direction of next year's bike, that may be a huge minus, or it may be a plus ... I think the principle thing Jack needs, is a computer / traction control engineer, who speaks fluent Webber-Marrelli and understands colloquial Australian well enough, who can ride himself and interpret what Jack says and mimes, who knows how that damn Webber-Marrelli system works. Jack has one massive weakness as a MotoGP rider. Tyre management. That is partly down to his riding style, but it's also on the traction system and how well it works or doesn't. Now Jack has been heavily involved in the development of ride-height devices, rear and front. It's not like he's a non-technical yob who just rides hard, he has a pretty fine understanding of the technology, but the one thing it seems like he's never had, is someone to drive the traction control side of that Webber Marrelli box of smoke & mirrors. It's not like he's got a choice and could choose to fit a MOTEC system. Last weekend, Jack and Brad both did poorly. I think the issue there was tyres. New tyres. Last year's bike (which Pedro is riding) seems to suit the latest Michelin rather better than the current one. If conditions are cold & damp & treacherous (like they were for the test) suddenly Jack and Brad are at the front of the field. But when conditions are excellent (like they were on race day) the latest Michelins chatter (they call it 'vibration'). That's a minor issue on last year's bike (which Pedo rides) and a huge issue on this year's bike. That's not to take anything away from Pedro ~ the kid is a God! He's the next Doohan or Rossi or Marquez. I think myself the deal has been done and the paperwork signed, and that's mostly why Jack's gone a bit flat. With or without a press release, he knows he's going to get demoted to the satellite team at best, and possibly not even that. If I were Jack Miller, I'd be making real sure I had the phone number for Honda, and they had mine. That's maybe not the best option, but I think it may be his only option. That or world superbikes. I'd say Remni Gardner would pretty happy to buy him a beer. I think there's a lot of things they'd agree on. They could invite Mark Webber and Danni Ricciardo over for a BBQ and agree on all sorts of things. Bet you one thing ~ if they did that, nobody would be drinking Red Bull.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
Pedro isn’t riding last years bike the GAS GAS bikes are 2024 KTM’s Looks like Jack has had his time in Motogp Blaming a software engineer for Jacks failings on tyre management, come on he had the same problems at Ducati
@Kneedragon1962
@Kneedragon1962 3 месяца назад
@@ianjohnson1207 ~ Yes, agreed. He's always had this problem. As a patriotic Australian, I cheer for him & support him, but I've given up any real hope he's going to be a champion any time soon. I thought Pedro was on the 2023 bike. Sorry ! I stand corrected. Jack is either too nice and too much the supportive team-mate, or he's trying too hard and falling off and smashing into people. He's a very skilful rider, but he's not the best strategic or tactical thinker. I wish him well, but I'm not betting money on him again. There's a sort-a balance you've got to find, between not trying hard enough, and trying too damn hard and ploughing into everyone, like the young Marquez did. Like tyre management, Jack seems to struggle to get that right.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
@@Kneedragon1962 Jack is going Honda, latest rumours
@Kneedragon1962
@Kneedragon1962 3 месяца назад
@@ianjohnson1207 ~ He could do worse.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
@@Kneedragon1962 There’s no pressure they are so far off it would be a developmental role get the bike in the correct direction He’s got all that Ducati and KTM knowledge, that’s why KTM hired him
@TarunMusicTv
@TarunMusicTv 3 месяца назад
We can't yet discount the possibility that Enea might keep his factory Ducati seat. Not until Ducati makes an official announcement. Pecco certainly has a clear preference for Enea. The thing that we've learnt in the last few days is to not believe on media speculations, and only believe on the official communication. Fingers crossed for Enea.
@PhyTso
@PhyTso 3 месяца назад
Pecco has no say at all.
@TarunMusicTv
@TarunMusicTv 3 месяца назад
@@PhyTso it's pretty obvious that you missed the press conference in which Pecco mentioned that Enea would be his teammate of choice for the next year.
@PhyTso
@PhyTso 3 месяца назад
@@TarunMusicTv bro...what I meant to say was, Pecco preference over his teammate doesn't matter. He has no say on his choice of teammate whatsoever. Those top Ducati management/Team bosses/Director decides. 2 years back, he was saying he prefer Jack to be his teammate lol
@TarunMusicTv
@TarunMusicTv 3 месяца назад
@@PhyTso Aah. Makes sense bro. :)
@Coltwins
@Coltwins 3 месяца назад
Miller to Trackhouse besides Roberts, Jack would be a good shout for trackhouse very likeable for the US market, and Roberts would be a great move for them..
@Slm16Z
@Slm16Z 3 месяца назад
Mıller you jokıng right .
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
Miller is going to Honda
@Coltwins
@Coltwins 3 месяца назад
@ianjohnson1207 to be fair that hadn't entered my head as an option Jack might take... Honda could definitely do with his input on their bike and have the funds to make it worth his while... we will have to see which way the cards fall , going to be interesting for sure...
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
@@Coltwins Big money no pressure, steer Honda in the correct direction, he’s got bags full of knowledge from other manufacturers
@georgejabboury1139
@georgejabboury1139 3 месяца назад
Ducati is super focused on winning. They have kept Pecco Bagnaia and he is their main argument. Aprilia has been good for several years. Jorge Martin will be winning races and contending for the championship. It was a big surprise. I did not know who would be going to Aprilia.
@boza5684
@boza5684 3 месяца назад
Next year Markez in Ducati,Hamilton in Ferari.Nice for italians..
@rickhamilton2093
@rickhamilton2093 3 месяца назад
Repsol Ducati 2025?
@21vasilis
@21vasilis 3 месяца назад
Guys i asked chatgpt this question. Is that what Peco Bagnaia did? If yes its scary... "I want you to gather all the information you can get about the motogp mugello track. I am starting the race from 5th place. What line should I keep so I can turn as first by the third corner after the start of the race? ### Key Features of the Mugello Circuit - **Length:** 5.245 km (3.259 miles) - **Corners:** 15 (9 right, 6 left) - **Longest Straight:** 1.141 km (0.709 miles) - **Elevation Change:** 41.19 m ### Track Layout and Key Sections 1. **Start/Finish Straight:** One of the longest straights in MotoGP, leading into San Donato, a heavy braking right-hander. 2. **San Donato (Turn 1):** A critical overtaking spot. The corner is tight and requires hard braking from high speeds. 3. **Luco and Poggio Secco (Turns 2 and 3):** A left-right combination where maintaining speed and positioning is crucial. ### Starting Strategy from 5th Position #### Key Considerations: 1. **Initial Launch:** A good start is critical. Focus on minimizing wheel spin and maximizing acceleration off the line. 2. **Positioning into Turn 1 (San Donato):** Given that San Donato is a prime overtaking spot, aim to approach it from an optimal angle for a late apex to maintain speed through the corner. #### Detailed Approach: 1. **Start and Initial Launch:** - Ensure a clean and powerful start to avoid losing positions off the line. - Aim to tuck in behind the front riders to benefit from the slipstream on the long straight. 2. **Approaching Turn 1 (San Donato):** - Use the slipstream to gain on the riders ahead. - Move to the outside of the track if necessary to set up for a late apex entry into Turn 1. - Brake as late as possible without compromising stability to outbrake competitors into the corner. 3. **Through San Donato to Luco (Turn 2):** - If positioned well, you should be able to carry more speed through San Donato, giving you a better line into Luco. - Aim to exit Turn 1 with a tight line to set up for the left-hander at Turn 2. 4. **From Luco to Poggio Secco (Turns 2 and 3):** - Maintain a tight line through Luco (Turn 2), keeping your speed steady. - Position yourself for a smooth transition into Turn 3 (Poggio Secco). - Aim to be on the inside line through Turn 3 to maximize your chance of overtaking or defending your position. ### Summary: 1. **Start:** Powerful launch with minimal wheel spin. 2. **Turn 1 (San Donato):** Use slipstream, move outside, late braking. 3. **Turns 2 and 3 (Luco and Poggio Secco):** Maintain speed, tight lines, and smooth transitions. By focusing on a strong start and positioning yourself effectively for the first few corners, you can maximize your chances of taking the lead by the third corner.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
Are you feeling Ok?🤯
@vigneshvijay4325
@vigneshvijay4325 3 месяца назад
If MM93 on factory ducati...can ducati give him gp24 for the rest of the season ?
@wlysam1600
@wlysam1600 3 месяца назад
No
@MK-xt9hh
@MK-xt9hh 3 месяца назад
The engine and some parts of the aero is homologated for the season, so essentially no. They could give him some of the GP24 parts, though.
@4id09_muhsinrafiqooktariza6
@4id09_muhsinrafiqooktariza6 3 месяца назад
letsgooo marccccccc
@markbevans8564
@markbevans8564 3 месяца назад
Pecco now on the same team as Marc, sad. MM93 would be anyone’s worst teammate in MotoGP.
@russelldheilman
@russelldheilman 3 месяца назад
Yeah, it's gonna be a worry for Pecco. Interested to see if Ducati put up with that stuff, because Marc is a sinister teammate.
@sburns2421
@sburns2421 3 месяца назад
@@russelldheilman Sinister? Pedrosa seems relatively friendly with him. Lorenzo and Marquez are friends. Pol and Mir were never in the same planet as Marquez in the finishing and qualifying orders, so not sure he ever considered them any challenge at all.
@connorrimo2730
@connorrimo2730 3 месяца назад
Marc makes motogp great, when he retires Acosta is ready to lead on where Marc left.
@Terraceview
@Terraceview 3 месяца назад
Pecco the girl will get shown indeed.
@ianjohnson1207
@ianjohnson1207 3 месяца назад
@@Terraceview You’re as bad as the Marc haters, give it a rest And you’ve got the cheek to complain about the Rossi fans, you’re of the same mould
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