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Judy Nelson interviewed by Gayle Garner during 1990 Wimbledon

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@vrj40
@vrj40 10 лет назад
Thank you for uploading this interview. I saw this when it orignally aired back then and had not seen it since anywhere.
@maxipazz8214
@maxipazz8214 3 года назад
Her ‘good friend’ just goes to show how backwards the media was in 1990 at honesty
@SaleSarajlija
@SaleSarajlija 7 лет назад
I love Judy Nelson. Her relationship with Martina was probably Martina's most stable, most successful stage in life. It is sad but Martina, who claims to be a gay icon, used the most oppressive anti-gay laws of the states she lived in with her partners to deny them any support after breakups, even after she signed the agreements. She always wanted full commitment from her partners and no responsibility to them, always walking away as if these women were her objects that needed to be thrown away after she had no interest in them. Navratilova is a symbol of individualism and self-centredness. I advise people to read two books by Judy Nelson about their relationship: "Choices" and "Love Match: Nelson vs. Navratilova". It will give you a different perspective on such narrow-minded interpretation of this break up, like calling Judy a "gold digger".
@o.d.flores1219
@o.d.flores1219 3 года назад
good for Martina!
@sonquatsch8585
@sonquatsch8585 16 дней назад
ninja PLEASE are u kidding MN had her version of a prenupt, end of story. really. the gall.
@tracylf5409
@tracylf5409 8 лет назад
If this is an agreed upon contract, then it is legally binding. If either of the partners did not agree, they did not have to sign. It's contracts 101. Nothing different than any other contract.
@normadesmond6017
@normadesmond6017 2 года назад
yep, agree.
@jokerwildest
@jokerwildest 9 лет назад
Judy absolutely deserved better from Martina ! It is really sad that Martina went back on her promises, and dragged it through the courts. Actually pretty disgusting, I am glad that Judy stuck up for herself.
@vrj40
@vrj40 2 года назад
Apparently, Martina and Judy are now at least friends. Judy was at Martina's wedding to her current mate.
@matthewmcalister2165
@matthewmcalister2165 Год назад
Is Judy with anyone today?
@vrj40
@vrj40 Год назад
@@matthewmcalister2165 I've not read anything other than some forum several years ago that claims that Judy and Pam Shriver were an item after her and Martina broke up. It could be true, but I don't buy that.
@vrj40
@vrj40 10 лет назад
Martina signed the agreement and she ended the relationship, not Judy nelson so Martina should have paid. Common sense. Typical gold digging charge is false.
@lenwelch2195
@lenwelch2195 6 лет назад
vrj40 Martina didn’t read it - she looked at a PowerPoint outline that later turned in ton11 pages . Thev sharing if 50 percent applies to ventures the two went in to business together with ( clothing line ) Not Martina’s net worth . Martina had less than 2 million to her name when they split after 14 years of tennis and they had been together for 7 . Martina tried to settle and Judy’s lawyer refused . It was about money . Judy was paid 90 g for her scheduling flights , hotels etc . Plus she never paid for lodging , food , homes , utilities . She lived for free plus 90 g . Sweet deal for having been a housewife in firmer life. She lived way beyond her degrees and talents for 7 years.
@eiquinlan170
@eiquinlan170 3 года назад
And her pouncy kids, she even got her mother travelling with them, Judy Nelson was a gold digger she used Martina for what she could get disgusting woman
@vrj40
@vrj40 3 года назад
Martina was never a victim folks. Martina went through women like water running through a well. She cheated on the majority of women she dated. And Nelson was already living a comfortable life as a country club doctor's wife. If Nelson was looking for just money, she could've dated any number of wealthy men in Ft. Worth. Judy was drop dead gorgeous in her years with Martina. Her and Martina are still friendly. Nelson was at Martina's wedding to her current wife.
@maxipazz8214
@maxipazz8214 3 года назад
@@vrj40 u talk crap blah blah
@vrj40
@vrj40 3 года назад
@@maxipazz8214 Martina was a great tennis player, but off the court with the ladies, she was full of crap and that is well documented. So go take your pacifier and lay down for your nap...
@susan5199
@susan5199 Год назад
I understand Judy here I was same had working wife and I did everything too so she just had to work very sad I too was left with nothing on our split
@tedwick8730
@tedwick8730 4 месяца назад
Does anyone know where i can get the book' love match', by Judy Nelson. I would love to read this, i was only 15 when this happened but remember it well.
@timogriffith
@timogriffith 10 лет назад
I like Martina, although she seems to have a history of ending relationships badly. One of her former relationships said upon reflection it was Evert who was the stronger of the two. Meaning Chris held it together mentally while Martina was more of a petulant child. That comes through in her infamous breakups. A funny, interesting personality though!!!
@hardsam68
@hardsam68 9 лет назад
whats this got to do with Evert? and EVert isnt good at relationships either, how many husbands has she had again?
@vincenthannah6556
@vincenthannah6556 9 лет назад
Pascoe Braun Three husbands for Chris. John Lloyd,Andy Mill and Greg Norman.
@deaconconway5281
@deaconconway5281 6 лет назад
So only 3 serious relationships. Big deal. Martina goes through her various array of girlfriends every 3 years max. She is now marrying a criminal who was part of killing someone, yet another relationship that will surely end badly, except in this case she might have finally bitten off more than she can chew and it might be more for her than the victimized other person as is usually the norm with her.
@eiquinlan170
@eiquinlan170 3 года назад
What u talking about?
@maxipazz8214
@maxipazz8214 3 года назад
You like Martina ? Yeh right
@rosysky02inphoenix11
@rosysky02inphoenix11 4 года назад
I’m sure that if Martina was not a famous person and this woman met her just casually she wouldn’t even think about sleeping with her.
@TheDiana1
@TheDiana1 9 лет назад
MarlbroOne, first of all, I only replied to comments on here portraying Judy as the 'victim' in all of this. Over the years, a couple of my friends in the USA have been very good friends with Pam Shriver and another top player that i'm not allowed to mention and that's where I got a lot of my information. I quite agree with you and Martina's personal life is nobody's business but hers but when people don't know the FACTS about Martina and Judy and feel sorry for Judy, I cannot sit back and say nothing!. Also i'm fully aware that everyone is entitled to their opinion and i'm not on here to fight or argue with you especially as you're a huge Martina fan, but she's had her fair share of unfair criticism over the years and I just wanted to try and let people know that Judy Nelson was not a very nice person and Martina didn't need her to 'coach' her and 'sort out her personal finances' as Martina had those things covered. Like you, for me, Martina is the undisputed greatest female tennis player of all time and I guess we will have to agree to disagree regarding Judy Nelson lol!. Enjoy watching Martina play especially against Chris Evert and that's how women's tennis should be played, not with all this power and new technology that they have today.
@MarlboroOne
@MarlboroOne 10 лет назад
Back than i was a huge Martina fan and i followed them via Media and i think in this Case Judy deserved better - better than that. Martina was an adult woman and she knew what she did when she signed it. Sorry but i am getting always mad if someone calls Judy a gold Digger - if this would happend this day No one wouldn't really talk about that like they do
@petr7006
@petr7006 10 лет назад
jsem ceska ziju v cesku a tady martinu miluji vsichni lide v cechach marina je hodna a milujici zena skoda ze nezije v cechach jsem taky lezbicka a martina je prome hrdinka antonie
@deaconconway5281
@deaconconway5281 6 лет назад
Martina is a great (although overrated, most rate her 3rd best of all time behind Serena and Graf when she really is more about 7th, overrated purposely because there is bias in her favor for being a lesbian and her self promotion) tennis player but a truly nasty and vile person. Judy is a wonderful woman and too much the evil, selfish, and disgusting Martina tried so hard to swindle out of the rightful money she deserved, and was partly successful.
@eiquinlan170
@eiquinlan170 3 года назад
Who the fk are u? Talking your bullshit on here, u know nothing about Martina so shut the fk up and dissappear u TROLL
@eiquinlan170
@eiquinlan170 3 года назад
Thanks 4 the laugh 😅
@whalesnamedshark
@whalesnamedshark 4 года назад
“ companion”
@arnieramsbottom704
@arnieramsbottom704 8 лет назад
That's what she does she uses and dumps people
@ConservativeAnthem
@ConservativeAnthem 8 лет назад
It's not Martina's fault -- she has the gay gene.
@TIZNYC
@TIZNYC 2 года назад
@@ConservativeAnthem Hmmm Your head must be way up your ass if you think that behavior is exclusive to gay people. But, guess your screenname tells me everything I need to know (and everything you don't know). Bye bish.
@johnjolson4627
@johnjolson4627 9 лет назад
Lost love can bring out the very worst in people - gay or straight. It's often not pretty - even from folks who otherwise might know better. A very broken (and ever brilliant!) Oscar Wilde wrote the object of his love, Lord Alfred Douglas (from a jail-cell in the 1890's), "Every great love has its tragedy, and now ours has too." Victorian England was not accepting of such relationships - which was why Wilde sat in a prison and died well before his time. The Martina and Judy saga ended in a much better and civilized way - as well it should - more than a century after the destruction of one of the most talented playwrights England ever saw.
@Marchjoy1963
@Marchjoy1963 10 лет назад
Don't know why anyone would say Judy is a gold digger.. Martina is a child and horrid person..and of course this is not the last time she was sued. Judy left her family to move in with Martina, she contributed to her success. If they had an agreement it should have been kept. Unfortunately Navratilova thought she could just walk away. In turn she had her lawyers try to say that Judy presence was paid for in a contract.... like she was a paid whore. Disgusting, she lost her friendship with Rita Mae Brown over it, and I think Judy as well. Rita played mediator and got them to settle out of court. But was horrified by the defence that Martina tried to use to get out of her obligation and commitment.
@MarlboroOne
@MarlboroOne 10 лет назад
i totally agree
@bhinderbinder
@bhinderbinder 9 лет назад
I hate to have to agree with Marchjoy1963 but yes, Martina is horrid. At least that's my impression of her, after watching her in different interviews....
@katedunno1230
@katedunno1230 7 лет назад
Marchjoy1963 I agree with you about holding up an agreement. But Judy made the choice to leave her family. Nobody twisted her arm to leave her husband and children
@heema_9451
@heema_9451 6 лет назад
Judy did not contribute to her success Judy was nothing more than a glorified PA. Martina accomplished everything she did through her own hard work and talent
@FemaleObserver
@FemaleObserver 9 лет назад
her claims are legitimate, she should get half of what she had or at least 1/3.
@andypeterson3070
@andypeterson3070 Год назад
No way pedro!!
@marisolgarcia6943
@marisolgarcia6943 7 лет назад
If Martina was not a famous tennis player she wouldn't be getting such beautiful woman.. They wouldn't even give her a second look..
@heema_9451
@heema_9451 6 лет назад
But you make it sound like it's Martina's fault, it means Judy is a gold digger
@showmebear
@showmebear 6 лет назад
You could say that about most men (who have money) too.
@eiquinlan170
@eiquinlan170 3 года назад
Oh so your the Mona Lisa are u? Take a look in the mirror
@Vegheadsrock
@Vegheadsrock 9 лет назад
Leave Martinas damn money alone. Why should somebody have to pay you for sleeping with them for a few years. She earned that money and you were just riding her coat tails.
@lenwelch2195
@lenwelch2195 6 лет назад
joan Jones women are used to getting money fir being romantically involved with men and or women . Women if they want to be treated equally as men need to stop feeling entitled to money when they break up . Men don’t seek $ from women if the woman made more in a marriage if it ends .
@tenniscollector
@tenniscollector 10 лет назад
So what was the outcome of her lawsuit ?
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 10 лет назад
Reported Judy ended up with over 3 million but the exact amount is confidential.
@lenwelch2195
@lenwelch2195 6 лет назад
tenniscollector Martina offered a settlement that Judy accepted . Details are secret
@annamariabell7030
@annamariabell7030 5 лет назад
$3 million and house in Aspen
@zeddeka
@zeddeka 11 месяцев назад
I hadnt realised that Judy Nelson was around 11 years older than Martina, or perhaps some of the dynamics of her relationship with Judy, until I read this famously scathing criticism Camille Paglia wrote about Martina in the 90s: "It began with my disillusion with Martina Navratilova, the darling of the lesbian world, who used to symbolize for me the athletic new militance of my generation of feminists. Her rival, Chris Evert, was the nice Catholic girl, the goody- two-shoes whom I loathed, since she was everything we who were reared in the Fifties were expected to be. However, I came to see that Chris is the stronger of the two - that Martina has a childish streak and that that childishness is inextricable from her lesbianism. At key moments in important matches, Martina would glance up toward the stands and shrug or grin shamefacedly at Judy Nelson, her mature blonde lover, who was nodding and clapping like a hovering kindergarten teacher. It drove me crazy. Why did the premier Amazon of our time need a substitute mother figure? When things went wrong, Martina couldn't conceal her self-pity; the mask of strength would crumble, and she'd storm around the court in a snit. Meanwhile, Chris Evert never threw a tantrum, groused at opponents, or blamed officials. A bad call produced a steely stare, at most. Chris behaved like an adult, taking full responsibility for her performance and deportment. Classy Chris Evert is a better role model for young women than Martina, whose hyperdeveloped masculine musculature is overcom- pensation for her creampuff interior."
@pcolt4
@pcolt4 8 месяцев назад
Camille wielding her pen like a scythe. Great writing and analysis.
@eiquinlan4012
@eiquinlan4012 7 лет назад
Being 'dumped' is what happens when relationships end fact of life Judy knew what she was doing a if she 'loved' Marina she wouldn't have gone public about the court case and if i remember rightly Judy made sure it was in the two weeks of Wimbledon her and family were freeloaders nasty bit of work
@2020Bookworm
@2020Bookworm 2 года назад
She should just sell her story to make money. Everybody needs money to survive. You get older and people don't want to hire you.
@pablofrank2466
@pablofrank2466 Год назад
Martina paid for EVERYTHING during their 7 year relationship. Judy's two sons and her parents travelled around the world on business class flights, five star hotels and in addition, had Judy on the payroll (she was earning $90,000 a year - a huge salary in the 1980s). Yes, Martina should have bought her a house but Judy certainly didn't deserve half her earnings based on a non legally binding contract.
@andypeterson3070
@andypeterson3070 Год назад
That's the problem when you have a relationship with someone when you are absolutely loaded. I guess you will always wonder if they are with you for sincere reasons or just because you are rich.
@zeddeka
@zeddeka 11 месяцев назад
I suppose it's the eternal problem of any relationship. Who earns most of the money and who focuses on the home. There are a lot of heterosexual women who suffered financially because they were the ones who stayed at home, looked after everything there, but didn't get paid.
@pcolt4
@pcolt4 8 месяцев назад
No such thing as a "non legally binding contract". A contract is by definition legally binding. If something isn't legally binding it's not a contract.
@millennium8824
@millennium8824 7 лет назад
Money Talks
@lenwelch2195
@lenwelch2195 6 лет назад
I love how woman want to be treated equally as men but when they enter a relationship they feel the man or the other woman owes them money if they break up . When in love , you live the person , not their wallet . Judy was paid a salary for making bookings , lodging , and she traveled with her . She never paid fir an airline ticket , paid fir a hotel , bought a meal . She lived well fir the years she was with Martina . She willingly changed her” life style “- that’s not Martina’s responsibility . When your broken up you no longer get $ from that person . Be a grown up . Martina believed she was signing for something that would protect Judy from Martina’s parents if Martina died they may take what belonged to judy. judy was paid 90 g a year to make arrangements . You don’t get paid fir emotional support - that’s the part that comes from being in a relationship . Judy served the motion during Wimbledon . If two men were together and broke up neither would expect the other to pay them . Judy misses the lifestyle more than Martina . It’s time for judy to grow up and pay her own way
@andyroo9381
@andyroo9381 2 года назад
In the end, Judy had a signed, binding document.
@zeddeka
@zeddeka 11 месяцев назад
It's the eternal problem that happens with every relationship. Who earns the money and who sorts out the home. There are many heterosexual women in years past who lost out financially with pensions etc because they were looking after the home. It would have all been a lot more straightforward if they had been allowed to marry back then.
@debowiec3
@debowiec3 4 года назад
Never liked Navratilova...............period!!!!!!!
@eiquinlan170
@eiquinlan170 3 года назад
AND?
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 10 лет назад
This was a pattern for Martina for a while. Exact thing happened with her next partner. The next one was even uglier apparently. Like martina a lot but she really struggled getting relationships right and just kinda kicked them to the curb.
@maxipazz8214
@maxipazz8214 3 года назад
How beautiful to see Tracy Austin here
@jl3322
@jl3322 25 дней назад
Navratilova was known as a cheater and dumping women right and left.
@yosefch6605
@yosefch6605 2 года назад
Martina was set up. and she was right, it was all about money and greed on Judy's part. She makes me sick.
@mrzoperxplex
@mrzoperxplex 9 лет назад
Ms. Nelson is a very attractive woman, married to a doctor and a mother of two children, I wonder what possessed her to turn lesbian, was it the money? If that was the case she must be a morally vacant individual.
@normadesmond6017
@normadesmond6017 2 года назад
yeah.... she was attractive, married to a doctor, mother of two.... How could she possibly fall in love with another woman? Was it money???? Oh my..... get a grip, here. When you fall in love with a woman when you are a woman yourself, that probably means you are bisexual or gay.... Beeing "attrive"and all the other things you have mentioned are just homophobic. Disgusting remark.
@vrj40
@vrj40 2 года назад
Money really? There are and we're plenty of wealthy men in Texas that I'm sure Judy could have dated. As a result of her same-sex relationship with Martina, she almost lost her relationship with her parents and could've lost custody of her children if her husband had made that an issue eventhough I think he had involvements with other females while he was married to Judy.
@TIZNYC
@TIZNYC 2 года назад
Her "good friend" lol They were lovers and domestic partners.
@trent8002003
@trent8002003 10 лет назад
Nelson was a gold digger alright. We don't have to respect her at all. But Martina was the one whose signature was on the paper. She had only herself to blame for being so gullible.
@normadesmond6017
@normadesmond6017 2 года назад
If MRtine was the oen whose signature was on the paper why was Nelson a gold digger?
@maxipazz8214
@maxipazz8214 3 года назад
Oh yes Judy I bet you took ‘care’ of everything....
@connormcdonald6044
@connormcdonald6044 10 дней назад
Money grabber
@piro4351
@piro4351 7 лет назад
martina always turned straight chicks gay...this one was married to a man, had two sons..then she left him for martina..bad karma. Same happened with Martinas current hot wife..she pulls all the hot women away from their men and families.
@deaconconway5281
@deaconconway5281 6 лет назад
Yes and Martina is the one who calls Margaret Court disgraceful. Court may be a homophobic bigot which is a negative, but Martina is far and away the more disgusting individual overall. And arrogant as fuck. She still thinks she is the best ever, delusional, when barely a few people have her as high as 3rd behind Serena and Graf at this point, and even that is overrating her IMO. Court by contrast is underrated with many more singles slams, more singles titles, more combined doubles/singles slams, more combined singles/doubles titles than Martina, all for not being lesbian, not being American, being punished for not hording herself in the media and tennis scene like Martina, King, Shriver, and others, and for her religious and homophobic beliefs.
@heema_9451
@heema_9451 6 лет назад
Nobody "turns" anyone anything, you're either straight gay or bisexual the women who dated Martina are bisexual no straight woman would hook up with another women you're automically bi if you do
@lecorsaire2283
@lecorsaire2283 6 лет назад
deacon conway Martina has 167 singles titles and 354 total. No one is even close. That record will probably never be broken by man or woman. She played in a tougher era with real opponents not literal walkovers in finals at least this decade. Who is Serena’s rival apart from Venus over a decade ago? This is why these goat comparisons are a futile effort. Different fitness, different racquets, strings, court speeds, etc. Serena does have the best serve in history of the women’s game.
@ralphbourgeois5875
@ralphbourgeois5875 6 лет назад
Yeah Martina is a total and absolute home wrecker. And if anyone mentions it she cries homophobia.
@bethmc717
@bethmc717 5 лет назад
You ignorant idiot you don't turn anyone gay you don't know what your talking about, ppl like u give gays lesbians bad names
@piro4351
@piro4351 7 лет назад
martina turned her gay. lol...
@bethmc717
@bethmc717 5 лет назад
BULLSHIT
@normadesmond6017
@normadesmond6017 2 года назад
yeah sure.... You can not "turn"somebody gay. You are or you arent't. And when you aren't there is nobody in the world who can "" turn" you gay.
@noway1635
@noway1635 7 лет назад
No ones business.
@larrymick7287
@larrymick7287 5 лет назад
Sexual depravity is not LOVE.
@leeccdoo
@leeccdoo 2 года назад
Homosexuality is NOT "sexual depravity", you're just a bigot.
@marcpeters4050
@marcpeters4050 3 года назад
Martina is disgusting the way she treated Judy and Toni this marriage to Julia won't last but I have nothing against lesbians but Martina a sorry know I'm a Graff fan
@eiquinlan170
@eiquinlan170 3 года назад
Typical jealous Graff fan, oh and we're u there in the realsionship?
@grantgoffin4774
@grantgoffin4774 2 года назад
@@eiquinlan170 Why would a Graf fan be jealous, LOL! More people rate her as GOAT than Martina, today the debate is between Graf and Serena, and Martina is almost ignored in GOAT debates. And Graf has had the one and only stable marriage for over 20 years compared to Martina's mess of a series of ugly relationships and lawsuits. And atleast spell her name right if you are going to pretend to be an expert.
@ConservativeMan59
@ConservativeMan59 10 лет назад
@8:33 she says, 'I truly miss.....' Yeah, you know what she misses. She truly misses the 'man scent' of Martina's v---na. Really?
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 3 года назад
Total Golddigger the Martinez finally figured out
@HunterBidenCocaineBag
@HunterBidenCocaineBag 10 лет назад
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Navratilova was the man in that relationship. I am not shocked Mantina didn't want to honor her agreement. She's always been a sore loser.
@zeddeka
@zeddeka 7 лет назад
Joe Momma The "man"? What is that supposed to mean? They are two women. The last thing either of them want is a "man". Hetero normative rubbish.
@anniejohnson2797
@anniejohnson2797 4 года назад
There was no man in that relationship. Weird how men think they need to be involved in everything, even relationships explicitly nothing to do with them at all.
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