I had the Stiletto TB-II for about 5 years and I warranty replaced once. It got stolen a few weeks ago along with my daily car and I upgraded to an M-1. It's a beauty and I'm glad to hear you say it feels like the TB-II because I absolutely do not like the TB-III. Edit, outa work because of broken ribs
I have the M1 and the M4 handles with the M1 waffle and smooth heads and the M4 dimple and Wide claw smooth heads. Obviously, I like this hammer and spent a few dollars to equip it properly. I normally use M1 handle with waffle and M4 with wide claw smooth. I prefer the Martinez over the Stiletto by a long shot but there are two things I loved on the Stiletto... the nail puller side slot metal thickness was thinner and pried nails a little better and, the large hole on the side of the head would let me insert the handle end of wall jacks when they got too high up. I could crank them on the hammer just high enough to not have to use a step ladder. Other then that, DITTO to your impressions. I say same but will add that the Martinez M1 handle grip is slimmer and handle length 2" shorter then the Stiletto and feels much better in my hand. The length difference is better for me anyways plus I can use the hammer to guesstimate 16" lengths easier as well. One caution, I am always careful with the claws of the head because I have seen some reviews of ppl complaining of them breaking. I also saw one review where the handle cracked at the bolt area and it wasn't covered by Martinez or they challenged it. Note that I have seen many many more ppl having TiBone claws break, handles come loose and faces in misalignment or coming loose so I guess there are slight problems with either brand. Stiletto is now owned by Milwaukee Tool, an influence I don't like much for hand tools such as these. One issue I have had is the bolt tends to rust at the threads. I use my hammers in rain and snow and the bolts surface rusted inside the heads. I pulled the bolts out and used a dab of silver grease to prevent more rust. Don't know if the silver grease may affect the titanium in the long-run but I have had them hammers for 2 or 3 years now and no more rust and no issues. Love my hammers and you will love yours I am sure. They fit great in my Occidentals too! Let us know your long-term impressions.
yes, updates are very welcomed! especially comparison with your the first cheap hammer (im sure such was) Framing guru Larry Haun had used unbelievebally cheap dalluge 21oz18inch long 20 usd value.. hammering technique is the key...or tittanium is the only way to go?
Woxidus Woxidus i wish i still had my first hammer. It was old vaughn 23 cali framer. I then got a metal bosch anti vibe (worst mistake) witch i still have.
An old coworker told me to never get one because he had to replace the head every 3 months and the price for a new head wasn’t worth it.. told me to get a stiletto to save on money. Bought one changed the Allen bolt to a 9/16s hex bolt grabbed a 9/16s wrench and I’ve never changed or tightened the head since and I’ve never used that thread glue.. had mine for two years and nothing wrong with it..
Oh they are solid. Iv had no issues with the head. Same guy designed both hammers. I’ve been using the hammer every day for the past year when i made this video and compared to the stiletto, it’s really a coin toss. The handle eventually came off the stiletto, but some tape used on a base ball bat fixed that 😂.
Awesome hammers! I wonder how the Martinez brand hammer will compare to stilettos tb3 hammer? I like the Martinez cats paw design better than the stiletto, but is it worth $35 more?
I have both the stiletto and Martinez cats paw. The stiletto is somewhat better because the teeth are close together. The Martinez teeth are more separated but it’s cooler because of the side bar puller and the other puller
Been using a m1 in bridge construction and remodeling for 2 years. Setting panels for parapet I can go through a 50 pound box of 16p duplex in a day. Hammer is beastly to swing and easy on elbows hands and wrists. Just got another m1 handle with a 12 oz trim head on it also. Martinez tool logo earned a spot on my hardhat!
Sure is purty, but my $35 unit does the same job equally well. Two people I work with have those big money hammers and they wear down quickly and the handles disintegrate in no time.
For daily heavy use a titanium hammer is indispensable, I used one of them $35 jobs for a while but when I decided to get serious about my trade i upgraded and bought the nicest one money could buy, aka the martinez m1, sure saves the elbow during heavy swing, puts down massive power effortlessly, and is guaranteed by a lifetime warranty against any manufacturing defect. So a virtually unbreakable hammer, which can be modulated to accommodate both rough and finish applications, where the rubber handle wear out issue has been addressed perfectly by the updated replaceable grip and head... All in all, for a weekend warrior, $35 dewalt or Hart will get the job done, but for a professional, the martinez is the only hammer that can suffice.
Thanks for the comparo mate. I'm in Australia and wanting the M4 Martinez, but as far as I'm aware there is only one guy importing them here. I've left messages on their website etc, but still can't get hold of one, even though they're $489AUD
I'm having a hard time with it!..I have the fucking OG one! I've never held/owed another that was the same! My old boss bought 5 of them my new boss bought 3 and I've owned 3 myself! All the ti bone 15 and none of them are the same as my og! But here's the problem! 6 years in and it almost doesn't have a claw anymore!
Hi what is the actual total weight when u put the stilleto Tb 2 hammer on your electric kitchen scales ? My 20 oz goat claw estwing ( most common in nz ) weighs 803 grams ( 28.3 ounces )
Elijah not sure. I don’t know what the electric kitchen scale is, but let me grab my industrial size drug dealings scale, and I will have an answer for you momentarily
Estwing rules lol and at a fraction of the price had mine 20+ years. To be honest I don’t use a hammer much anymore (does anyone)it’s all nail guns for roughing and finishings.
You’re absolutely right I do I think that’s really change is a lot of wear and discoloration on the head due to the fact that I store my hammer head down in my tool bags instead of using the hook or loop. And obviously from smack and nails the face has shown a little bit of wear but none of the waffling is worn flat like you see with the stiletto.
No, handle construction is completely different. Only the face of the head is replaceable on the tb hammers and the whole head is replaceable on the Martinez hammer
A guy I worked with before I heard of Martinez had a Stiletto, he said the handle came loose and he put a Martinez handle on it. Don't think it fit perfectly, but it definitely worked
When you’re using your cats paw to hammer in behind the head of a nail to pry it out some nails can be difficult to pull especially when they’re in laminated beams putting your cats part inside these holes allows you to use your hammer as extra leverage to pry It’s not something I use a lot but when I do need to use it I’m glad this Hammer has the features it does
fritz inconclusive. The tibone bottom half of the grip was gone. The Martinez was half a oz heavier. I would have to look up the specs on the tibone from factory
Early Cuyler A lot of the times wood handles for break or the head becomes loose and you can only put so many wedges in the top of your hammer to prevent wiggle I guess it all boils down to how hard and how often you use this hammer which is a great determining factor for your purchase.
My six dollar harbor freight hammers bangs those nails in with ease. Does it tighten bolts or has a cat's paw? No!!! I've got separate tools for that task.
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It did once I open the gap enough to put a very small dab of subfloor glue in between the face and the rest of the head then I used a very long Allen wrench to crank it down as tight as I could. Worked great
I've been framing for 42 years, The stilleto hammer is hands down the best I have 4 of them Martinez hammers are garbage pure n simple, it's like fraud copy of the original, He sold out, he's a has been Martinez hammers = garbage!!!!!
You do realize they are both the exact same thing designed by the same person? he just left stiletto and started his own thing. Sooooo your argument is invalid
Better on your joints and health in the long run worth every penny and less weight to lug around with good warrenty for a hammer that last a life time. Buy once cry once
I think it’s hilarious how people ignore the fact that it’s far better to hand drive a nail than it is to shoot one in. if you use an air nailer, there is no way to feel whether you are hitting solid wood or not.
M1 is trash broke the head on mine 4 times now and 0 on 4yr stiletto the steal head was a mistake on this hammer needs to go back to the drawing board DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY yet anyway maybe when that head gets a new design
Stiletto is way more balanced. Technically, yes they are both 15oz but the steel head makes the Martinez a lot more top heavy. Arm feels better hitting nails with stiletto versus Martinez which has more vibration (my opinion).
@@callsignmohas5190The thing that’s important here is that in carpentry it is not the tool that makes your skill. I work with guys that will be working circles around you with their 30 dollar Vaughn. The skill makes the tool valuable. Not the other way around. A 40 dollar hammer can do everything that a 400 dollar Martinez can do except it won’t have a side puller. As cool as that is you will still get out worked by a guy with a 40 dollar hammer if you think that bells and whistles like that are necessary to do your job. A specialty hammer is a treat no doubt. But I’ll still take a 30 dollar Vaughn or Estwing over a 400 dollar 14 oz titanium POS.