@@skontheroad Uh…. Bc that is where the masses get their news? Bc the corporate media is controlled and highly filtered to cater to Irael? You must be new here… Like REALLY new
@@peterstafford4426whenever people see your name in the comments, they know a clown show will follow. Tell me the news sources you call the absolute truth. Who pays you to add propaganda to every story to which you add comments?
@@peterstafford4426the MSM......hahahah the same experts that said Trump was a foreign spy and Hunters laptop was Russian propaganda...come on pal, no one believes the MSM anymore except Boomers
More guests like Darryl please. Actual serious people in a world/media otherwise largely devoid of such experience and seriousness. Love BP as well, great work.
One of the greatest disservice to the news is media pundits without any experience, rehearsed taking heads trying to pay their bills. Versus level headed, serious minded professionals. Thank you for bringing Daryl
The last minute is so important. “If you met them they could be your neighbors.” Don’t let the extremist pull you in to dehumanize all. That goes for all people of all nations
The more I listen, the more I call bs. Zionists have planned brutal ethnic cleansing since 1917. It started with Israeli terrorism. And Zionism was always a brutal colonization plan that was implemented by dishonesty & bribery. I've never heard any hint of introspection or responsibility from them. Without a doubt, Israelis arrogance, self rightiousness, entitlement, is unsurpassed. (Plus, AIPAC has negatively impacted my life and freedoms in a profound way. Like the mafia.) I was neutral about Israel. But that's because I knew nothing. I can't really think of anything I like anymore. 🤢 🤕 🤮. And they ARE NOT AMERICAS FRIEND. Israel is a friend to no one. They're "extra special," and no one is more rightious or suffers more than them. And we all should know they are worth more than most... right? After 200,000 dead...we still must bow down to their 1200 each and everytime we have a drop of empathy for someone else. Disgusting. Show me a nice Israeli! Show me! I would like to meet one other than Gideon Levy. More propaganda.
It was great hearing from the Israeli merc who traveled to Israel 25 times to help them. But ironically, there is something to be learned from what he’s saying. Just don’t confuse him with a humanitarian.
@@schizophrenic_AI I don’t see how you can’t see him as a humanitarian. It’s clear he cares about the Palestinians. He doesn’t care for Hamas. He understands the suffering of the Israeli’s also. I really don’t know what you’re talking about.
Daryl is the real deal. He has a six part podcast series on Israel and Zionism called Fear and Lothing in the New Jerusalem. It's about 24 hours, yes a full day, worth of content over those episodes. Fantastic stuff and worth a listen. He's incredibly well read and truly does his best to remain unbiased and neutral.
It's depressing how rare it is these days to find someone who can offer an informed perspective this rational, balanced, and humane.... let alone articulate it so coherently in simple terms. American's need more like this. Thanks for getting him on the show!
Daryl Cooper is one of my favorite political/cultural commentators. He’s incredibly thoughtful and measured, and his convictions and principles are very strong. He’s one of the gems of the podcasting format.
As a leftist (well, to a point anyway), I truly believe if more right-wing people like Daryl Cooper existed, I'd become one myself. He's about as measured on almost every topic as it gets, comes off sympathetic to all sides of the political spectrum, and he understands the basic motives of people in general. His nuanced views on that Jim Jones podcast showed he understood people who want socialism, but also understands how socialism can bring about horrible things as well. That kind of take is rare to be honest, as usually people only go for one side or the other and demonize the other side. America would do far better if we had more Daryl Coopers.
@@Chris-ey8zf I'll boot in here on the socialism topic to point out that what we really need is basic income, a market-friendly solution that protects people from the worst outcomes and liberates them to pursue their true interests
@@carjaune6793A universal basic income would not help your cause. Frankly, the solution is either curtailing the Federal Reserve and slowly transitioning off of it or introducing another currency such as gold or silver and allow people use them simultaneously. The dollars purchasing power is the cause of everyone’s woe. Think about it, if you’re dollar went further, medical care, groceries, products, education, living wage… all these things would be easily affordable, and thus… you wouldn’t be clamoring for a free lunch. And I hate to say it, but there is no such thing as a free lunch.
Holy shit. They got Darryl Cooper. I suggest that people listen to his Israel/Palestine podcast for a *nuanced*, in-depth look into the history of this conflict. Edit: I took the word unbiased out because people want to use that word to argue their own conclusions and rhetoric instead.
I cannot recommend MartyrMade Podcast's "Fear & Loathing in the New Jerusalem" series enough for anyone looking to learn more about this issue beyond the surface level narratives. Be warned the entire series is insanely long however it's extremely well produced and never drags. Thank you for bringing Darryll on and letting him speak uninterrupted and unedited.
Seconding! I’m at about hour 15 and I have learned so much while being riveted to the way he presents the story while bringing alive what it would have felt like to live those different perspectives.
Saggar I am thrilled that you got him on the podcast. He really can put a lot of things into perspective for people who only have a birds eye view of the situation.
@@heyitsme881, although in this interview, it sounds like he's favoring Israel a bit, I assure you on X/Twitter, he holds both sides up to the light. He genuinely seems to care about both sides equally. Which side do you think he favors?
The British could never wipe out the I.R.A. and the more heavy handed they were to the Catholic population of Northern Ireland the less likely they were going to end the I.R.A. Same with French occupied Algiers. Algiers is the closest comparison to the I/P situation.
As an Irish person, yup yup. We learned in our history classes that most Irish people weren't actually in favour of leaving the Common Wealth. And that the 1916 Rising was really unpopular at the time. And then the British executed those involved, thereby making martyrs of them and turning Irish sentiment against the British. And when the majority of the general populace hates you, they become a bit ungovernable. 🤷🏻♀️
Not really, the problem with western framing is this isn't some European colonizer vs indigenous locals conflict. Both sides are dominated by factions which view this entire land as rightfully theirs, for both nationalistic and religious reasons. The British-IRA analogy holds but only to an extent: the IRA and Britain were fighting over Northern Ireland, whereas the Israelis and Palestinians are fighting over the entire land they both inhabit. This is akin to both the British and Irish Catholics fighting over the entirety of the landmass of Ireland and the British Isles. For us and our misadventures in Iraq and Afghanistan, those are far away lands and only one of several national security concerns. For Israel, the primary focus of their national security is all the adversaries which surround it, and who, let's be honest, have made it very clear they wish to wipe them off the map. If countries around yours don't think you should exist, then you will go all the way to fight them. Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were vicious, does it justify the carpet bombings of their territories and the enormous level of civilian casualties? No, but the allies in their view saw regimes so hellbent on conquest it was enough to convince them they had to go to the extreme to fight them. War sucks, but it's as old as humanity itself, and if you are convinced you're in a fight for your survival, everything else is secondary.
A poor analogy. The British never wiped out the IRA as it would have been illegal under human rights and the law of armed conflict.The majority were also British (NI) even if they professed otherwise and we knew who they were, and where they lived. Indeed, we also knew their fathers, sons, mothers and brothers - many of whom all touted on them to the State.
Algiers wasn't part of France, though... I don't think Israeli leadership has acted in good faith all along, but I think that most people supporting Palestine are not coming to the table with a real-world political solution. The rest of the Arab world is not significantly different in its complicity with this situation than Israel is. For Gaza in particular, its status when it was ruled by Egypt was not better than it has been when Israel controlled the borders.
Exactly. A nation birthed from the holocaust, just experienced another one on a smaler scale, with the exact same intent, just based this time on extremist islamic ideology. So you have your answer in your question.
Palestinians are genetically identical to Mizrahi Jews, the people who never left the region in the 'diaspora'. They are genetically the same, meaning they may be Jews themselves. Meanwhile, the 2nd most spoken language in Israel is Russian, because the Ashkenazi Jews largely come from Russia. Khazars were Turks who converted to Judaism en-masse in the middle ages. They are from the Russia/Crimea/Baltic region. They also immigrated to France and Germany. Studies have been done on the subject, but any link to Ashkenazi Jews with Khazars is immediately screamed down as anti-semitic. Nobody is allowed to say that without being branded a racist, as if being historically accurate is racism. Palestinians are not considered a tribe of Israel and get systematically murdered even though they are genetically identical to Jews from the region. Ashkenazi Jews are the original Zionists, are called a tribe of Israel, and they pretend Khazars didn't exist. Put that in your bowl and smoke it.
This info needs to be more widely shared. According to Shlomo Sand (Israeli author and professor), less than 20-30% of those who claim to be Jews actually have Jewish blood (I.e. traceable to the lineage of the 12 tribes of David). According to Sand, the rest were converts to the religion from generations past who later adopted the bloodline/ ethnicity as well.
The Neocon-Israeli geopolitical juggernaut that has control over both Tel Aviv and DC began with CIA ghoul James Angleton, JFk, Watergate, Nixon, and the secret Israeli nuclear program. It's a criminal organization and geopolitical beast that used assassination, blackmail, and coups to elevate their military power abroad to "full spectrum dominance". As Biden said, "if Israel didn't exist, we'd have to invent one."
@porter9494 I noticed how you left out everything about how those people ended up cramped in Gaza, and how Israel proped up Hamas to excuse their crimes.Crazy how there is no Hamas in the West Bank and yet those citizens are being cleansed by Israelies, hmm... its almost like Israel wants to remove palestinians even if they are peaceful. Would you be fine with some stranger annexing your home and telling the community that they offered you a great peace deal to keep the closet for yourself, but you refused saying you want the whole house, so now they get to murder you.. Seems fair
@porter9494”crying like babies.” You mean the babies whose incubators have no power? Or the ones at Al Durrah who had Willy Pete dropped on them? Or the hundreds of miscarriages due to 2/3rds of medical facilities being destroyed? Although I suppose those ones never even get to cry.
"Hamas expresses shock that their premeditated massacre of unarmed Israeli civilians in their homes and cars has provoked a strong response from Israel"
Probably the most balanced, factual, and coherent analysis of this situation I've heard to date. I had never heard of Darryl Cooper until now. I will be tuning in to hear more from him.
I'll vouch for the Jim Jones series as well. A 20+ hour long podcast about a cult leader may not sound all that interesting to a lot of people, but it's legitimately one of the most fascinating and moving things I've ever listened to. It's only 50% about Jones himself, and 50% about the absolutely wild, revolutionary fervor of the 60s and the civil rights era he grew up in, and what happened in his life that made him what he turned into. Only Darryl could get you to empathize with and even have a measure of respect a murderous psychotic cult leader while still being totally clear-eyed about how insane and delusional and downright evil that man became. An unbelievable series, as is Fear in Loathing, his Israel/Palestine one. Darryl is truly a gem.
Saagar is 100% correct on Darrell's breakdown of the issue on the podcast. Long but definitely worth the listen. I heard him say previously he gets about equal hate mail from both the Israeli and Palestinian sides which would lead me to believe he's hitting the nail on the head.
he also gets mail from ppl on both sides who thank him for helping them view this conflict in a different light and with empathy for the other side for the first time in their lives. He’s definitely hitting the nail on the head.
Well duh. Conservatives like me are in favor of law and order. Therefore Israel's illegal occupation of other countries is absolutely unacceptable and immoral!
Really? This conflict was the first political issue I ever became very passionate about, back in my early 20s when it was a fringe issue that virtually nobody in the West talked about, long before it became a mainstream leftist issue) and I've pretty much never encountered a conservative who wasn't a hardline Israel stan that blamed everything on the backwards Palestinian savages. Honestly don't think I've encountered any conservatives with even cursory knowledge of the history of Israel's creation and what it entailed. I was gobsmacked to hear such an honest, factual account coming from an American who's not a literal academic scholar on the topic. Having done a years-long deep dive into this over a decade ago, most of this is old news for me, but even I picked up a few new tidbits from this interview, which is seriously impressive for me. Definitely gonna be going through his podcast series. Curious: where do you live, that you encounter so many other conservatives opposed to the occupation? That's such an alien concept to me I'm intrigued to know more about the cultural & demographic context you're speaking from.
I don't understand how this issue has become political, but regardless I feel the same. I know some hardline conservatives that are not big fans of what israel has been doing.
@@FadedDream6969 This is and always has been a fundamentally political issue. What else could it possibly be??? Either way, the idea there are hardline conservatives out there who aren't fervent Israel groupies still blows my mind. Hard to believe it's really true, tbh.
@@lachlanbell8390 There's always been a minority of conservatives who have expressed skepticism about the level of our support for Israel. The problem has long been the lack of empathy for the Palestinians. Basically it came down to "well Israel looks like a safer place for Christians to travel to" so might as well let the Israelis continue to crowd control the Arabs...
That man was the best,and most informative correspondent in respect to Israel - Gaza. His closing statement said it all “ 99% of the people in both countries are just like you, and I “ Sacred words . Kudos to Saagar, and Krystal for not INTERRUPTING ONCE !Great show both of you.
@porter9494 Who cares? Why is religion even important when it has led to death caused equally by both sides. Leaning heavily on Israel choosing to wipe out the entire palestine canal instead of find their lovely Hammas group they are so desperate to care. And don't be an idiot either with your taking everything extremely serious, I'm not calling Hamma lovely.
There is one single principle that Mr. Cooper emphasized which condenses the entire problem. Prior to 1948, Palestine was a land whose inhabitants, of whom the vast majority were Arab, lived in relative peace - Christians, Jews, and Muslims. The U.N., U.S. and Britain made promises to the Arab world supporting a state for Palestinians and a state for Israel. As Mr. Cooper said, six or seven decades of militaristic Zionist occupation and expansionism and the corresponding killing and displacement of the Palestinians has to be accounted for, or no solution will ever be reached. America itself is facing a reckoning in our own political ideologies. We will either rise to the solution or continue to create unnecessary suffering.
Huh!?! Why does analysis need to be "balanced." Doing analysis means sticking to the facts rather than rhetoric. Playing to the middle rhetorically is not analysis at all. Rather it's politics hence why you feel the need to use the qualifier "balanced."
The Europeans have always had a ‘Jewish Problem’ throughout their history. They tried various types of isolation and extermination including ghetto establishments, pogroms, and the holocaust. Muslims never had. Jews lived freely in Palestine, Istanbul, Baghdad, Cairo, Morocco and other places for centuries. They actually flourished in Muslim Spain. Then in the late 19th centuries ideas like religious separation, liberal assimilation, socialism, communism, and others emerged. Zionism was their latest version. The same religious fanatics that persecuted the Jews throughout history began supporting Zionism. They don’t want the Jews to live amongst them. Zionists led by Theodore Hertzel held their First Zionist Congress in Basel, Switzerland in 1897 and later British foreign secretary Balfoure made his infamous declaration in 1917, both with the same objective of solving this ‘Jewish Problem. That is how this colonial, imperial and now apartheid enterprise began. The lesson that must be learned from the holocaust is never again against anyone and not just against the Jews. The commercialization of holocaust MUST stop.
>They tried various types of isolation and extermination including ghetto establishments, pogroms, and the holocaust. Muslims never had You sure about that? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule#Persia
This conflict was the first political issue I ever became very passionate about, back in my early 20s when it was a fringe issue that virtually nobody in the West talked about, long before it became a mainstream leftist issue) and I'm *gobsmacked* to hear such an honest, factual account coming from an American who's not a literal academic scholar on the topic. Honestly don't think I've encountered any Americans with even cursory knowledge of the history of Israel's creation and what it entailed, nor have I *ever* encountered anyone even vaguely right-of-centre that wasn't a hardline Israel stan who blamed everything on the backwards Palestinian savages. Having done a years-long deep dive into this over a decade ago, most of this is old news for me, but even I picked up a few new tidbits from this interview, which is seriously impressive for me. Definitely keen to start going through his podcast series!
This is the best, non biased analysis I've heard or seen on this ongoing conflict. Simply amazing work, great discipline of considering the facts from both sides.
Great segment. I just finished going through Coopers; "Fear and Loathing in New Jerusalem" series again and it's even better the second time around. Highly recommend it to anyone looking for a comprehensive and entertaining history of the birth of Israel and the stage it set for all future conflicts. Can't stress enough how good this series is. Check it out.
There's so much in that series' 24 or so hours and so much good insight outside of the historical information, that I've listened to it , I think 4 times now over the years.. Luckily I have a commute and a job where I can listen to audio for the entire day while I work. There are only a few historical series that I've done this with and Cooper's is definitely up there with the best there is.
Are you going thru it on spotify? I am finding the volume of the podcast relative to others super low and have to crank the headphones to hear it. Anyone else experiencing that?
Don’t know how you can say all you did about Israel’s crimes and at the same time call them a great country. It’s a country built on a crime and the Nakba of 1947
What a profound assessment by Darryl Cooper. I would really love to hear someone like Cooper talk more about Israel's role in propping up Hamas over the years. Good work BP.
Very happy to see DC getting the message out with one of my Favorite news sources. Hopefully many more people can open their eyes and see the people more clearly.
Darryl seems like such a great human being! I'm 2 hours in to the first episode of his "Fear & Loathing in the New Jeruselum" series on Martyrmade, and it is so good. I get bogged down listening to history podcasts sometimes, but his material is extremely engaging, and I haven't caught myself zoning out at all. Thank you guys so much, because the public needs to hear from people like Darryl, who has years of military experience and carefully researched/thoughtful opinions on this issue.
These are our people. That was exactly my feeling when I served with a humanitarian agency in the Occupied Territory in the early 2000s. That is why, for right or wrong, the Holocaust hurts me more than the Rwandan or Cambodian genocides. The Germans, the Israelis to me, as a Western European, are my people and their crimes, are, culturally, my crimes.
Yeah definitely have the hitler apologist back on. Saagar calls his holocaust denial "alt history" ffs People have become so addicted to counter-narratives and anti-establishment takes that seemingly smart people are now running cover for somebody that spews Hitler dog whistles. Sad.
It’s really really good of you guys to expose people to Darryl. I’ve been listening to him for 7 years, I’ve been part of his substack since day 1. I think the best lesson from Darryl is to be critical and attempt to understand that none of these things happen in a vacuum. The Hamas attacks are part of a continuum of circumstances, events and realities. Media and politicians allow extremists to have the loudest voice and allow the minuscule extremist minority speak for the majority. How strange that the 99% that Darryl speaks of at the end, have no voice. Thanks Krystal and Saagar for fighting the good fight.
Didn't the Jews kill Jesus when he said to give away everything and to LOVE others like yourself over 2K years ago?? 😊😊 And how do you think 🇺🇸 became a superpower?? 😂😂
Any time some one want to understand the conflict in Israel and the occupied territories. This video is officially the best one to see. That was a amazing lecture.
@@RoseanneSeason7 The Jewish people a separate from the state of Israel. Israel has political aims for there own reasons. I do not assign blame based on the blood of people.
What a gem of an interview. Precise, factual. Sadly many more Palestinians will die before the world starts seeing the brutal occupation of Palestine by Israel and demand a stop to this horror. There is a glimmer of hope as the youth in the US and around the world see what's happening and raise their voices in protest. Thanks for this interview.
I have just become a fan of Darryl Cooper for so nicely pointing out root causes that we always have to come back. if there is no justice there will be no peace
Where? I've just looked through the website and can only see his 6-part series "Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem", which I assume is the series Saagar recommended. Are you talking about the same one?
@@lachlanbell8390 yes and somehow I wrote a million now that I read through my comment but I meant to write 30hr. What I get for commenting via voice text on the hwy lol. But yes that’s the proper series. And it’s deep. I’ve listened to him for years and he’s a sharp dude
As far as Netanyahu and his allies are concerned, if Hamas didn't exist, it had to be invented. It's such a convenient boogeyman for his own purposes, and a great tool for not having to concede an inch to the Palestinians. It's absolutely disgusting machiavellian politics.
How is the guest not able to relate the current atrocities with Israel’s founding, which amounted to a huge ethnic cleansing? How does he think Gazans ended up in Gaza?
Really appreciate this guy’s nuanced, objective analysis of this tragic situation. Thanks for having him on! Question tho, wasn’t there antwo state solution offered at end of last war that Israel accepted and Palestine didn’t? And instead attacked?
sort of yes, but after isreal did the original purge of plestians from the land they offered to keep it there, and of course the palestianians didnt accept and wanted their homes back so they fought, then isreal took even more land. and the palestinians said they would accept the old offer and isreal said no, the new offer is even less land now. which again was unacceptable to the people who had just los their land and so they faught again. its that each time the palestinians defend themselves isreal takes more and offers a worse deal and then the palestians go and fight for the old deal. I mean now adays even the terrorist organization of hamas has changed their charter to accept a deal for the 67 borders and share the land with isreal. and the last isreali prime minister who was willing to negociate not assasinated by someone with close ties to netenyahu during the negociations. since netenyanhu and his extremist group took power they have had no interest in deals, they was the whole thing. just look at what they are doing in the west bank right now even though there is no hamas in the west bank and no rockets come from there.
Yea thats what makes this so tough. I guess its been proposed multiple times and palestinians turned it down and instead started wars the following day.
No. Israel has never brought forth a proposal that didn’t include pushing Palestinians into unconnected cantons and being under military surveillance. They’ve never brought forward a plan that wasn’t humiliating.
I've been a martyrmade ubscriber for a couple of years... Daryl's podcast is the most important podcast to me... The guy researches like a bloodhound and he rights and rewrites and rewrites and rewrites and tosses it all away and starts again... And he God bless him. Apologizes profusely in his in his notes to us saying he sorry for not getting this next podcast out quicker or etc... And we all just fucking smirk and smile and just like... Bro, you're going to drop a six and a half hour podcast of masters level historical research . Into humans... The best, most heart caring few hours I've spent listening to anything in my life.... It's about communism in the 20th century and what man does to a society when all sense of the transcendent and metaphysical is eradicated from the society and is forbidden to be acknowledged or discussed... His six part 35 hour series on Jim Jones and the leftist movements in the '60s and '70s is something I did not think I was going to enjoy but I couldn't stop listening to it... v Daryl has to capacity to write a Steve Cotton level biography of Hitler or Paul Pott or Mal., and if he spent enough time. Ripping those psychopaths lives apart. He's going to show us how their actions are not as abnormal as we pretend to think they are.... Knocks down all those pillars we put up to say that we're better than these people who commit horrific crimes., different from us. They're no different from any other part of humanity... That's something we have to remember and no one does it better than dinner.. So all of you who even glance at this full-throated passionate unpaid advertisements for Daryl.. subscribe to hit substack and just set it and forget it. You're going. It's worth a minimum of 4x what he's charging... ... Do it...
I can’t thank you enough for your independent coverage. Krystal and Saagar, I really can’t thank you both enough for the balanced, intentional, rational, and responsible coverage that you and your team so strive to deliver on a daily basis. Keep saying the hard, objective, and non-judgmental things that the rest of the heart-lead world needs to hear. You give us permission to all be human. This interview is a perfect example. You both are truly a bright spot in this current, murky atmosphere. 🙏🏻
Every American needs to hear this. We need to stop the forever wars and the way we do it is through understanding. Im not sure i buy Daryls take on the security failure but it was a great take on the conflict overall.
"They've been dealing with these attacks for decades" That tends to happen when you take over an area by force and construct a prison around a huge population.
To add what Darryl Cooper said is to give a rough estimate of why Israel is fearful of the brutal attacks over the years: - [ ] - During the Second Intifada, which started in 2000 and lasted until around 2005, there were over **140 suicide attacks**. - [ ] - Before the Second Intifada, during the 1990s, there were several dozen attacks. - [ ] In the 7-years of Suicide Bombings, this is approximately a bombing every one to two weeks of **“Horrific Slaughter of the Innocent”** for 7 years! If you tally these numbers, you'll find that *Israel experienced somewhere around 200 suicide bombings* during this period. This is a rough conservative estimate, and the actual number might be slightly higher. Each bombing had a varying number of casualties, with *many attacks on school busses,* *weddings, *open air markets* and *hotels* causing the *death of over 1,000+ Palestinian, Christian, Jewish Israeli children*. So, when you *hear* the *“Radicalized Hamas Apologists”* say *“Palestinian Concentration Camps”* take some time to *pray for the souls of the suicide bombers and at least a thousand prayers for the dead Israel children…*
This was a good discussion.. I'm still sick of hearing about foreign conflicts in the news though. Would really be nice if every single day wasn't entirely about what's happening in other countries while we still have so many issues to deal with here in the US.
