Maru vs. Serral - ESL SC2 Masters: Spring 2024 Finals - Grand Final 

OK, I've finished watching it, Serral is just a monster, a machine. Maru who is an incredible player, one of the strongest by far, looks like an amateur.

@@ZAWARUD00 On top of this, Serral is getting that Boot-camp training and now he'll be in an even better headspace. lmao

There's been bo1's longer than that rofl

What I love about this match is terran bronze fanboys crying in the corner, sometimes yell imba imba with wet eyes and running nose.

Bonked

The scouting was everything. Maru's scouting was shit. He let lings just walk into his base and kill everything cuz he didn't have a single marine patrolling the attack paths to see them coming. The entire game would've gone different if Maru could scout worth a damn.

I HOWLED

Yeah which is why the balance team are sitting snickering rubbing their hands wondering how to buff terran or nerf zerg, now, to send zergs home outta the price pool again just because terran and their legacy of buffs and supportive nerfs never had anyone impressed by their (inject eco, inject attack speed, tier 1 stutterstep a-move-cancer) gameplay.

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Don't get me wrong... One thing I notice is that serral used ling bane comp with Oliveira and just needed to go a mid game army comp when needed... With Maru I noticed that he immediately go to mid game army comp... My observation though

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@@axelmolina1031 I think because Maru played turtle against Serral. In the first 2 games, his game was very passive. He only sent out 2 medivacs of marines. 3rd game is a bit of unfortunate, he let the lings in. And 4th game died to roach timing.

@@TuanNguyen-zy3qr one thing I noticed with Maru as well... He does turtle if he plays with serral, and most of the time in their matches, serral use Maru's weakness... The early roach ravenger comp

Artosis will still come up with some denial excuse and the Teamliquid picking Maru as #1 GOAT and Serral #2 GOAT was questionable after the last IEM Katowice grandfinals and be even worse after this.

@@AdmiralBison 😂 yea true, Arty always said Rogue is the GOAT.

​@@malaysianman5941The problem is Rogue also never beat Serral on lan. But also, their biggest excuse for ignoring Lan head to head records like that is they aren't talking about the "best player of all time" rather "the greatest player of all time." Meaning they don't have to be the best player which even Artosis has said "yeah, without a doubt Serral is the best player in the world probably the best player ever, but that doesn't just mean he's the goat." - Artosis

@@AdmiralBison Well, we all know Artosis. Hey, I love him, but to take his opinion on a question like "balance" or "GOAT" seriously is something nobody should consider doing.

​@@wedgeantilles8575 this is so funny because it's so true 😂

Solid shout out

Well sc2 is more real time than strategy so maybe more like OpTic Hecz level dominance

@@judjudersawn2596well they did nerf Terran to the ground again so serial looks even more OP

@@AntonioLopez-kw3ev Did they? Oliveira didn't seem to get the memo then

Lol sounds like a skill issue

he makes the matchup look solved

Are you serious? Did you miss the semis?

@@hughjainus9686 Which, while better games, was not the best ZvT. As in, this is peak zerg performance.

@@hughjainus9686 Serral played way better in finals.

Goat of broken race what an achievement

​@@rouxypouxy9245other Zs nowhere to be seen, so your point is not valid

@@roky2822 Life, Reynor, Rogue

@@rouxypouxy9245 broken race xD braindead

​​Reynor and Rogue didn't even make it to the semis. Maru won 3-1 over Dark in the semis. Oliveira wiped the floor with Reynor in this tournament. The balance is fine, it's Serral that is OP

Agreed. I don't even like Maru, but I felt so bad for him. The stupid GOAT debate makes it all about him vs. Serral, and that's a comparison no one has a chance in (at least, for the last few years). Maru's real accomplishments get overshadowed by the debate, and the stubbornness of his fans makes people annoyed. I wish SC2 had silver and bronze medals - that way, reaching number 2 and number 3 would be more celebrated. This would help spread the love around and make the scene more vibrant and nuanced.

Good at abusing broken race you mean?

only Dark , Byun , Clem and Maxpax can fight Serral , thank for Serral go back to save zerg , we needed a villain and Dark didn't do well Clem is our Spider-Man Even though Reyno can't face Serral, I want Reyno to fight the Korean instead of Serral TYTY and MAXPAX have the potential to become the strongest Serral is clearly the final boss of SC2 Another factor is that Maru is on the other side of the world, he was very tired when he came to Europe however Serral had just returned so it was only fair We need a hero to fight Serral During his peak, hero (name) defeated every zerg

I think he has a weakness to Serral in particular. Oliveira did better vs Serral than Maru did - way better, in fact.

I think it is more of a playstyle problem. Maru really does not get how to play against serral. His style does not work. You need constant pressure on serral like Clem does in order to win. You can't turtle vs serral

the fact that Serral chooses his games. It's like mayweather and manny pacquiao in esports.

@@zenartvonduke380 You want him to go to korea, right?

@@teodoreh nope i couldn't care less. He is not the goat if he doesnt go. The issue still stands. Artosis is still correct

@@zenartvonduke380 he doesn't have to prove anything to anyone, anymore. You don't like him, nice. Everybody knows who the GOAT is, and even Artosis (who is korea-biased) may change his mind soon from Bonjwa to GOAT...

@@zenartvonduke380 Serral is the GOAT, but you Terran/Maru fanboys can't seem to digest the fact. Also, GSL is irrelevant, as there are bigger tournaments at this point. And all the BS about GSL being better because it allows more time for preparation is dumb, because Serral has shown again and again that he is also the best at that, no one can be better than him with preparation, and he always crushes it with the mind games.

Seral keeps his brains in that Zerg evolution chamber. You can see it evolving in real time.

Well that’s what she said

what happened to the koreans? or did the europeans "just clawed" their way in step by step?

A lot of people seem to live in that space somehow. Probably stayed up watching too many 3am GSL streams throughout the years.

Only time I recall recently was a best of three for world team league or something. I think it was the previous map pool cuz I believe one of the games was on altitude

Serral is probably having more trouble dealing with player like Clem, he is way more aggressive. Maru turtle playstyle just give Serral enough room to do anything he wants

When I first started watching starcraft 2 I remember a fantastic series where maru beat serral. This was years ago tho when the ravens anti armour missiles also did damage

hard counter

If you only count Lan wins Maru's last win vs Serral was WESG 2017 Maru hasn't beaten Serral on lan even once since then its kinda crazy that its been 7 years.

I think Maru is particularly weak to Serral. Oliveira did much better vs Serral, despite having way lower stats overall. I still don't feel bad for the 8 time GSL winner; he got 2nd place here (again) and has a huge list of trophies and achievements.

Maru can become champion again when sereal is not around

Maru has never won any world championship in his life. He excels in Korea but never made it in the world stage.

Still zero world championships. Maybe he should stop farming low level Korean tournaments and come play against the best in Europe ;) Jk, Jk, it's just funny how the tables are turning.

@manumainio3451 Well, Reynor already went to Korea and got his ass handed to him at the last GSL - and he is not the only one who looks suddenly a lot less amazing while in Korea. And Maru doesn't do badly outside of Korea. It's just that Serral is in a class of his own. Europe has some other strong players, but they are not particularly amazing without Serral. When he retires, Korea will be right back on top.

Maru was destroyed again in the same manner a few months ago in IEM Katowice. Another easy 4-0 by Serral. It's not even a surprise anymore, Serral vs Maru is the most obvious result in the game's entire history.

Oliveira is on the same team as Serral and they practice a LOT together. When they started out Oliveira said he lost 20 in a row, had an overall record of 10-227 or something like that. But they played more and more and trained with each other and grinded it out and he identified this one small timing window of slight vulnerability in serral's game, and that's why he goes for this octorax/8rax timing push to the 3rd, cutting workers and doing a massive tank/marine push at like 8:30 - and this is what won him two maps. On Alcyone, when Serral committed to the breakout attack, he actually had enough to beat the army he saw - the problem is Oliveira had another 20-30 supply right behind serral's vision / scouting range, so Serral got tricked once.

@@chloesmith4065 10-227? Dayum. 22 losses in a row? So for him to take 2 games out of 5 is remarkable

I mean, if he's playing BW at the moment, it's safe to assume he's fuming with rage. poor guy, I still can't understand how someone can be suh a chill, nice person while casting and such an unrelenting screeching douchebag while playing.

exactly the comment I was looking for

I am mad.

Artosis is mad? no, because Serral haven't beat Maru in GSL.

​@@阿倉-o2yif that eventually happens there would be no more excuses for being mad.

🤔

Watching both his hands neither shaking as he's drinking - are you ok over there?

it looks like he's overloaded on adrenaline

Serral vs Maru is the most obvious result in the game's entire history.

That's what you get when you nerf Terran arbitrarily for no reason and keep Zerg broken for no reason good job blizzard

@@HenriqueRJchikisaying Zerg op lmao 🤣 after the last balance patch every caster literally agreed terran is by far the strongest race with Protoss in second and Zerg last.. stop thinking Zerg is broken, Serral is just the outlier.. they hard nerfed banelings they hard nerfed infestors. And they buffed dropper overlord speed which still isn’t even used lmao 🤣

@@mikeiscoo2 Don't make excuses. If Zerg was broken, then the top players in the world would naturally be Zerg players.

@@gabriel.hongkong that’s some stupid bullshit cope take.. that’s simply not true because to master a race takes years of practice

@@mikeiscoo2 nice cope literally lying LMAO

If you see this, who were they? I couldn't find their names. Just getting back into watching live SC2 events.

@@mayonnaiseeee ZombieGrub and PiG

@@Lexus2ff Thanks! Appreciate that. I think I remember both from back in the day.

totally

You can complain to the organizers about that. Keep crying. Serral is better than maru but maru still stomps oliveira.

@@victorlu2313 Serral: bro , 4:0 vs 3:2 , you are so right about the final, makes my life so much easier

@@derrychen6923 totally while Maru never survive 10 min+ each game what a loser

​@@victorlu2313stomps, you mean like IEM katowice 2023 final?😢

can I get a fking spoiler alert bro come tf on

There's still going to be whiners out there.

@@judjudersawn2596don’t read the comments

@@biometal770 No dont put "maru wins 4-0" at the very start of the second comment on the page. Put spoiler alert.

@@keizan5132 When you whine for common sense its called making a good point

Pressure is the great equalizer and right now nobody pressures Maru like Serral.

Yeah. I'm a Serral fan and I don't generally like Maru, but I felt real empathy for him during Katowice and today. If anything, these 2 finals reminded me that Maru is mortal, like the rest of us, and that he's worked hella hard since a young age to be where he is. So at least it gave some of us a new perspective on him, and more appreciation for his achievements.

I like both of the player i just hate their fanbase

@@kathorsees even if he is mortal he isnt quite like the rest of us.

Maru may have been arguably the best in the world at one point but that peak has not been for at least 6 years.

Serral joined in s special military troop that is specialized for athlet. That's why he has a lots of time to practice sc2. but that is still unreal for him to maintain his God mode in military service.

If you see purple goo along the Finnish border... Run.

We've got a special unit for people who need to train their sport while serving. Still, army is his full time dayjob for now, even if there is support for his SC2 career.

@@paloman95 My point exactly. And after a dayjob like the freaking military, you dont have the energy to play at this level.

@@Cilroc if Serral's God mode remains, he will win all the tournaments championship afterwards. only Finland army can break Serral's God mode.

Too bad we'll never know if Serral is truly the Goat as he's apparently deathly afraid of Korea

goats get goat tldr, baah

always making excuses about how zerg is OP. Them haters can hate all they want. Serral's record is absolutely ridiculous.

Making excuses about not having played and won gsl etc etc. as if gsl is the end all be all of sc2 peak

He is. But differently from Korea, in Finland you are allowed to participate in tournaments and practice etc (if certain requirements are met).

​@@KoozjeTo elaborate, Serral was put into a special program specifically for international sports competitors within Finland allowing them to still compete in international events. And Serral is the first esports player in Finland to be accepted into this program.

Sergeant, take my beer

Neural parasite on his Sargent.

@@displacedicon7643 damn. Serral is definitely making history and a trail blazer.

Yes in contrast to Zombiegrub the shouting feminist

PiG is such biased towards Maru... envy and hates Serral and his achievements, although he's playing 'I'm your friend card...

@@florin.lupascu i have no idea what you base that on... I have seen nothing of any of that.

@@waggerdagger2831 historical observation years long

@@florin.lupascu Completely baseless and defamatory claims. I have been watching pro SC2 since it's inception and I have not seen PiG of all people act in a way that could possibly make anyone believe he was jealous of Serral and hated him. I've even heard PiG say extremely praising things about Serral, you're just reaching and it's honestly gross.

I agree - i have followed pig for some time; never have i seen anything of the sort.

It looks like Maru loses like 1k elo when playing serral

spoiler comment and a copied comment as well? Holy shishkebab.

@@miniwaern What are you even talking about? I put a spoiler alert in all caps and bold. Sharing a similar thought as other people isn't copying either. You're weird dude.

Not as pathetic as your queer name though

Well ESL

ZombieGrub is your fav caster? o_Ò

I don't like ZombieGrub.

@@miniwaern Is Zombie still a virgin?

If forgetting depot open = gg maybe the imba is correct.

He gets weirdly nervous when he plays Serral, like he knows the ass-beating that is coming his way. You don't see him making these mistakes vs Dark or Shin.

if you're a pro player you should probably know to put your Depot back up.

​​@@RealFableFox If Serral forgot to inject and died, would you say imba? If Serral forgot to get detection, would you cry imba? If Serral forgot to scout? Would your salty tears cry imba? If Maru forgets the very easy task of blocking his enemy from coming easily into his base, that is not a question of balance.

zerglings are cheap early unit. But it was fast and powerful enough even in early game terran has to play "the floor is lava". do you have any idea how many matches I saw if terran send their units out in early game without medivac, artosis would cast "those units are so dead" and he usually right. zergling speed and damages and also baneling ( so intsead of just one bane, player need to use two do destroy svc now?) not to mention health left make the easy picking for zerglings. let me give another example: if terran disable colossus, in order to destroy it terran unit have to go in and fight other units stand shoulder to shoulder with to colossus. abducts on the other hands takes a unit and throw them to your army group. Anyway I'm going to say this (and this isn't even my word - but from someone who is knowledgeable in the game): SC1 - as imbalance as it might be - the controls limit it. SC2, now the imbalances (not only in stat, but by design) multiplies. Artosis own word in one of his videos are ( taking about bane patch) zerg is a race that attack moves and win. Now it still attack move and win, just with baneling has less hp.

A strat executed by a pro hits way faster and harder than a plat player doing a similar build. And no, roach timings work at high level, especially roach/ravager. A 1/1 roach trades well against similar level marines and the ravagers can snipe tanks.

@@hunteriv4869 it really doesn't matter what the play is as long as it's effective for the current situation. Serral scouting is top stuff. I can't count how many times Clem has dismantled zerg players with a hand full of marines that were in the right place at the right time with the zerg players being clueless. Serral is just on another level on all fundamentals of the game: scouting, defense, attacking, economy, micro, macro. You're not going to get lucky often, you won't surprise him and you can't turtle against him. I'm so glad we have him because the alternative is a player like Maru can just turtle and win grand finals which is extremely frustrating to watch.

Well, Maru can be considered a Diamond player when he is against the GOAT. The difference is skill is just that vast as shown once again in a major grand final.

He does this to Maru just as Maru does this to Shin 😂

Tbf zergling infestor ultra executed on "ghost river" isn't a normal zerg push at all

I think its more likely that he's choking, now I don't think he should win if he was in peak form but he has a surprisingly long record of losing finals even in Gsl it took him quite a few tries to get his G5L and even his pretty one sided loss to Olivera in the prior Katowice, it just seems like he just flops in finals.

@@Mglunafh Maru was pretty dead after the mid-game Raven/Roach pushes; anything after that is just a nail in the coffin. I was surprised to see Maru this less active. He was totally different from Dark, and Serral was playing the same style (Raven/Roach) all the way, but Maru didn't have any counter measurements...He could have learnt from Olivera match and prepared but he didn't...

@@nghiepho7055 Maru has noone to practice vs Serral cause noone plays on his level.

The goat of abusing broken race you mean? LMAO

thats the observers mouse pointer

You Terran mains always cry and cope in the comments. Serral's 75% win rate against Maru is no coincidence neither are his accomplishments vs any player. He is literally the best statistical player of all time and it is not even close. Reason why he doesn't join GSL is because he has to spend a lot of time in Korea and it doesn't fit his lifestyle since he likes talking walks and playing golf and whatever farm boys do in their free time. Every single Korean he has faced has always had the time to prepare against Serral yet they always have a losing win rate against him. There is no excuse I do not care. Sure GSL is different but I have yet to see a single Koreans dominate the game like Serral has for 6 years now. He wins almost everything he participates in and is always the favorite to win by a wide margin. Look at his rating and he is literally leagues above any Zerg. He has 3999 against Protoss, 4000+ against Terran and 3600 against Zerg. The people below him statistically are Maru, Maxpax, Clem and Dark in that order, yet they are still far below Serral. Serral is a league of its own. No Zerg is as good as him. Dark is 5th right now and is also way below Maru and Clem who are both Terrans. Terrans always cry they have been doing so since the beginning of the game.

@@2nerC9 that's because you don't understand how terrans and zergs came to be. No doubt Serral is the best zerg player, but you can't compare what he has to do to win with what terrans need to do to win. Terran was designed in the same fashion any RTS games of the time were designed; you have a natural production cycle roughly reflecting how human production works in real life. Then the designers sat down and started inventing insane spells and mechanics for the other two races. That's why basic rules of RTS don't always apply to zerg or protoss, with zerg being able to go to 80 drones in 3 minutes, etc. Terran is predictable, with slow linear ramp-up of production and economy and limited opportunities for suprise. Zerg can throw down a fake third and go build 100 roaches that you can't do anything against unless you scout it immediately and do the exact right thing. All Serral has to do is play the same game he practiced 10000 times perfectly, and he wins. No terran can ever just play standard, they need to come up with new inventive and unique builds every tournament, and not show them until the finals. It is not a level playing field in the slightest, and you can't compare Serral's domination with any terran simply because domination like that is not possible with terran no matter how much better you are than everyone else.

​​​@@alk672so much copium 😂 if T is "harder" to play, why don't T players switch to a different race and earn the easy money? moreover, why was the last world championship finals a TvT (Oliveira vs Maru)? why does this year's world championship (EWC) have 9 Terrans, 5 Zergs and 4 Protoss? repeat: there are as many Terrans qualified in the tournamemt as Z and P _combined_. can you explain that?

You can compare the match between Oliveira and Serral. At the 8:30 mark, Oli's 160 supply "full-force punch" (with at least 3 tanks and infantry units) is already halfway across the map and on the way to the Zerg's base. However, Maru often only has around 130 supply at the 8:30 mark, applying much less pressure on Serral in the early game. Perhaps his shoulder injury prevents him from executing high-intensity pressure on the Zerg in the early stages.

He is, he just took some time off to play in this (you are allowed time off in every country with mandatory service after the first few weeks of basic training).

@@OnigoroshiZero Your mom took some time off to play in this

@@miniwaern From your comments, you are the biggest weirdo I have ever seen.

dude it just says serral vs maru .... ohh wait