Marvel Comics Severely F**ked X-Men Reboot 

CONSIDER ME...UNDERWHELMED. 00:00 - X-Men Reboot Details Revealed 00:46 - New X-Men Titles Launching 01:30 - Artists On Marvel X-Men Books 02:11 - Talent In Marvel Illustration 02:50 - The Fractured X-Men 03:30 - The Future Of The X-Men Comics 04:11 - Excessive Number Of Titles 04:49 - Delivering Without True Focus 05:33 - The X-Men Book Led By Cyclops 06:21 - Too Much On This Man's Plate 07:06 - Analysis Of X-Men Team Lineup 07:50 - Bringing Back The Villainous Characters 08:32 - Outlaw Heroes In The Big Easy New Orleans 09:17 - Gail Simone's Relevance In The Comic Book Industry 09:56 - Comparison Of Comic Book Writers 10:34 - The Potential Of Rebooting X-Men 11:15 - The Doubtful Future Of Kate Ewing's Comic Series 12:01 - The Challenges Of Introducing New X-Men Heroes 12:50 - Offensive Designs And Misrepresentation 13:33 - Cancellation And Launch Strategy 14:16 - Rumors About The New Wolverine Comic 15:02 - Choosing Writers For X-Men Titles 15:42 - Moving X-Men Writers To Avengers Characters 16:27 - Comic Book Coverage 17:03 - Fun Stuff

I’ve no idea how anyone actually believed this reboot was going to be good, was the entire upper echelons of the company just fired? No? Did they suddenly bring in top new writers and get rid of all the terrible ones? No? Then how on earth was anything going to change? All they did was shuffle around all the dead weight and nothing has changed, so it’s going to be more of the same.

I'd be more surprised if Marvel didn't shit the bed with everything they do.

I'd love for Cytorak to take Juggernaut's powers away right before he gets hit by like the wrecking crew. The fact he hasn't taken his powers away yet after betraying his oath TWICE now is crazy.

Seeing Wolverine being on Gail Simone's series made me groan out loud, I can already see the "hilarious" running joke of a different type of food being stuck on Logan's claws each issue. Foodsies are yumsies, and that's totes funsies!

Gail not being signed up for the long run is not a bad thing but she's also known to be super super lazy so.

Jordan White: “The Krakoan Era sales are a dumpster fire, what do we do?” Tom Brevoort: “Hmm..needs more gasoline.”

can't wait to save money not buying this.

Boy, I can't wait for the X-men to sit around and eat.

Juggernaut not a hero? How about “Juggernaut not a mutant!”!

They didn't turn the villains into heroes in the Krakoa era, they turned the heroes into villains. Krakoa era should have ended with the reveal that all the X-Men were like plant people created by Krakoa and the villains, and have them emerge from the ground from the island and fight against their copies and the villains. As it stands, they're all tainted.

I was big into the X-Men as a kid in the late 80s, early 90s. I tried the House of X/Powers of X, but gave up on the hokey-preachy Krakow X-Men. I was glad to hear they are finally abandoning the "Krakoan Age", but this so-called relaunch still does not make me want to drop $20-30 a month on X-books.

Unless they declare all of Krakoan era a non-canon dream- X-men are permanently dead. Nobody cares about the ongoing adventures of the soulless segregation clones.

They messed up Iceman so badly that I actually prefer Temper being in the lineup instead of nu-Bobby. “From the Ashes” Ah yes, I too remember Claremont and Simonson.

Absolutely nothing about this beyond Greg Capullo drawing Wolverine interests me in the least. And he'll probably just draw a single arc and move on.

Are these artists going to do 3 issues and disappear? That's what stops me following a new book.

The Social Justice Age for Any Superhero who debuted in the Silver Age onward is going to be the Worst Time to be a fan of those Characters.

Kitty as a barista is exactly what I have always wanted in my X-Men titles ☠️

I agree 100%. The Jed Mackay and Ryan Stegman is the one that sounds the most promising. However, most of Jed Mackay's work outside of Moonknight has not been great. So honestly, I think X-Men is lost and I am not going to invest. I have been disappointed too many times with the Krakoa era and I am officially done. At least they are going back to the old logos.

...Gail Simone?.... pass.

Let me guess. The "exceptional" xmen are all the diverse characters.

Will happily keep ignoring anything Marvel.

So surprised at how optimistic you sound. I’m done with Marvel. As long as they have a mandate to destroy masculinity and traditional superheroes. They not getting my money. The covers are just bait and switch.

There is no fixing X-men right now. Honestly they’d be better of killing the title for a while until they figure out what to do and manage to get competent creative teams on board.

Marvel needs good writers very badly.

The moment I saw Gail and Eve on the list, my first thought was “Oh, god.” 🙄

I am never reading an X-Men book again until they fully prove they've changed

The only thing I’ve seen of Eve Ewing is her Ironheart run, where she actually had Riri Williams act like a human person with emotions instead of a tyrannical psychopath. So if anything, the only expectations I have are that the XMen act like human superheroes again and not like sociopathic ethnostate villains.

Why is juggernaut even there? He makes even less sense than magneto

The groaner for me was the title about some new mutants, like we need yet more (I'd rather see the ones we have that get rarely used), and of course theyre going to be .. Exceptional. Throw in a few pages every issue set in a coffee shop and its perfect for those who love that kind of thing, if anybody actually does. I don't think this title will last. Nine titles is too many, odd choices, too many X-Men titles. Juggernaut looks daft with that X on his face.

So for the first 3 books is $15 or more per month. Then have additional six?!!? Nine? How do they expect anyone to keep up?! Really? Does Marvel even considering that even in the best of times that is a ton of money for any one person?

10:54 What’s that image from? That image is the perfect example of current X-Men, the characters look lifeless, you can’t tell if the characters are male or female. I’m starting to think that comics can’t be saved, it’s just a mess.

at least I have wolverine by capullo to look forward to. hopefully it's donny cates or pkj

Seems Marvel did not learn their lesson and continue to release too many titles for the Xmen instead of just doing 2 strong titles. Man i miss the good old days in the mansion. Hopefully they can play some baseball in alaska.

What can you really hope for with Marvel's current "talent pool"? The art looks interesting at least, but I see enough red flags with who is writing that I don't hold any hope for this.

Will they reverse all the gay conversion from decades long straight characters? If not, I'll skip it.

Jedd mckay really is the definition of right place right time

Damn, Marvel won't let people's wallets breathe. I had to get out of floppies and specifically Marvel and even more specifically X-men. I love X-men, but I had to step away a year ago. This new announcement makes me feel I made the right decision.

Damn, I don't think there's a single writer in comic history I'd want writing Avengers AND X-Men at the same time.

They are patching up the hole in the lifeboat by cutting a replacement patch from the same lifeboat.

We all know the book will initially sell incredibly well based on morbid curiosity and the bad ass art, but the team they have will likely not deliver on story and it will fall off again. I pray I’m wrong but I’m probably not

Marvels doing to Jed MacKay what DC did to Joshua Williamson. WAY too much on a writer who’s had some success, but by no means has the chops to write multiple A list titles like X-Men, Avengers, and a summer event.

I quit Marvel years ago and I have no regrets.

Ideally, a publisher would launch with 1 title. 1 well-written, well-illustrated, and well-edited title. 3 to 4 titles isn't a launch, it's mass production/overestimating these characters' appeal. Anything over 3 to 4 is foolish.

Their new base in Alaska? Why’re they not stationed in Westchester, at the Xavier Institute? And why is Juggernaut a member of the X-Men?

How about Daniel Warren Johnson with Capullo on art for that Wolverine book 🤔

No interest in this relaunch I really don't like the creators/writers choices.😢😢😢

Yeah sorry, I'm not coming back. There's tons of good X-Men comics from previous eras I can read.

One thing I will give them credit for - for far too long there has been an "any old c*** will do" attitude to the artwork on the X-Men books. You think back to the original run of Uncanny X-Men: Jack Kirby, Neal Adams, Dave Cockrum, John Byrne, Paul Smith, JR JR, Alan Davis, Barry-Windsor-Smith, Marc Silvestri, Jim Lee, Whilce Portacio, Joe Madureira... the list goes on and on. There was a pedigree there that in recent years has been ignored. Yes, Leinil Yu and Joshua Cassara are great artists, but they've been the exception rather than the rule. Every X-Book had great art, not just the flagship title. It does at least look like they are bringing their A-game artistically with David Marquez and Ryan Stegman on two of the books. And it's about time. The question is, are these books going to be readable and go some way to begin to restore the X-Men brand to it's all-conquering heyday? Based on what little of Gail Simone I've read in recent years, plus the sound of crickets around Jed McKay's Avengers run... I'm guessing this will be all flash and zero substance. But I'm pleased these books will at least look good, like they deserve to. These were some of the greatest characters in all of comic books until the Krakoan era turned them into all into cucks and mutant supremacists and it became the LGBTQ+ line of comics, rather than a line of comics that anyone who ever felt they were an outsider or didn't fit in could enjoy and relate to.

I expect nothing, and I'm still let down.

Magneto has killed thousands of people, and mutants. DC does this with Harley Quinn

Did i hear that right ??? There will be 3 launch titles and 6 other titles after that ??? So 9 x-men books ???

It's gonna go down like this for the X-Men line 3 issue in nothing happens than event after event.and a redo after 20 so issues.

Nyx could be good in the sense that homelessness is out of control but that would be way to heavy for a Marvel book

I’ve heard that X-men by McKay will be featuring new villains. Jed creates a lot of villains that are not really distinct from each other. All the villains in his Avengers and Blood Hunt and none of them could be picked out of a police lineup

McKay is dope. Ewing hasn't been bad on Black Panther, just a bit convoluted. Simone hasn't written anything good in years. Her Secret Six and Birds of Prey were great. Her Action Comics and Wonder Woman were awful. She had a really good horror series, Clean Room, but that was a while ago. I don't see the teams lasting too long. I'm really surprised they didn't give McKay Uncanny.

More importantly, where is Colossus?!

... Eve Ewing? Hahahahahahahahahaha

As long as Jed's current Moon Knight run stays at a good level of writing quality, I'll be happy. I just hope he isn't overworked to the point where he puts less effort into his moon knight book and it turns to shit.

Why are people still reading anything from the corpse of a once good story company?

X-Men comics are now dead.

Marvel just isn’t it for me anymore. Spider-man was the main thing holding on for Me. And marvel finally did it in making me not give a shit about spider-man anymore. They ruined spider-man 2 for ps5. The amazing spider-man comic is miserably painful. Their lazy and just race swap Iconic marvel hero’s cause they don’t want to create and build up new ethnic hero’s. Instead let’s replace captain America with a black man. Iron man with a black women, spider-man with a black man. Hulk with an Asian hulk. Honestly mangaka feels like the only thing in the world, safe from the western ideology bullshit in everything.

Unreadable X-men 🧻💰🚽🪦

These new Marvel Comics X-Men comics written by Gail Simone and the Disney + original animated series X-Men '97 are all going to suck so badly. You can only imagine how much soy woke S.J.W. crap that those comics and that animated series are all going to be filled with.

Xavier: Humans and mutants need to get along. Magneto: OK, bro. Let's get some coffee.

I know this isn't exactly well said but this reboot is absolute trash. What a big miss.

Feel sorry for comic shop they don't recommend anything .I give up on marvel.

I gave up on X-Men some years ago, after I think it was the third time Uncanny was rebooted. As I recall Emma Frost was the lead and Cyclops was the villain, Iceman was gay comic relief, it was dismal and nothing that I wanted to be part of. In fact I gave up on Marvel entirely as the MU was no longer a fun place. I briefly returned to ASM after its latest reboot and found nothing but pain, gave up again. How much longer can Marvel continue to pump out this garbage which no one wants? I know Disney has deep pockets but even they have limits.

Maggy n Juggy have definitely been xmen allies before. The kitty book seems the weakest so fat. I'm not excited about Gail at all. Without great villians the stories will suffer.

The very DEFINITION of "wait n see" . I'm not enthused on the creative teams.

Why is Juggernaut on an X-Men team!

Marvel: "Look! Look! We're rebooting X-Men!" Fans: *lone tumbleweed rolls away*

I want to see the X-Factor lineup. I want Havok leading them. If that happens, I might actually pick it up, depending on the creative team of course.

why oh why do they have to do my X-men dirty, they had so much potential with the House of X/Powers of x but then they went and shot themselves in the foot.

I collected all of the X-Comics for the last 5 years. For the last year, they have all sat in a pile unread. I've been buying 15 books a week since 1991. For the first time ever, I can say I will be buying ZERO Marvel books after May. They killed all interest I had in the Xmen. I loved Cable and X-Force in the 90s. I have no interest in reading another bad take on it. I'm done with X-books.

I was pigeon toed as a small child. Can I join the X-Men? 😂

The fact that it's not called X-Ceptional X-Men is all you need to know that it's going to suck.

Gail Simone's run on Domino and Domino:Hotshots was terrible.

I wonder if they'll stop killing?

…..not surprised at all……Here we go again with another train wreck that we all can obviously see coming…..still kinda at a loss for words……🤷🏽‍♂️😓🫣🤦🏽‍♂️

Marvel editor - we want to stay focused and make X-men great again. 3 main series tops is all we need to get people invested in it. X-men editor- best I can do is 9 books. I hope for the best but track record says be worried .

I found so ironic all the "Defending a world that hates and fears them", only this time they gave everyone a genuine and valid reason to do so. Krakoa changed my view of these characters forever. I cannot bring myself to cheer to them anymore. In fact I'm happy in to see they are fugitives and being hunted again. They didn't deserve less after your erratic bahaviour in the past 4 years. I just don't care about X-Men anymore because I don't see heroism in your book for long time. And while Marvel don't do a retcon that all they were bainwashing by Krakoa or were just plant people I don't will touch in a single new X-Men book again.

The only way Exceptional X-men makes it past 13 issues is if there’s a planned crossover event between the titles that happens around that time.

I deliberately put off watching this one because I anticipated the books would be trash. Why did I have to be right? I keep hoping I won’t be right.

Looks like i'm not Reading X-Men back yet.

They def gave Gail Wolverine and the objectively more popular squad because they knew that hiring her was an automatic handicap. Gotta counterbalance the Gail effect somehow.

Love the look you made when u mentioned Exceptional X-Men 😂. Also that title just sounds bad. It looks like a horrible version of generation x. I'll try X-Men but I think Uncanny will be the best of the 3. Also why aren't the X-men all in one place?

X MEN, Uncanny X MEN, X Factor , X Force and maybe Wolverine should be the reboot titles . Then have the other titles come from the stories that 3rd X MEN book is going to have Emma & Kate in it then 3 new Characters.. They could have had Emma & Kate on a different team then later leave team to make this new team. . My problem with Krakoa era is they have all these great characters but they don'y use them right then jumbo the same characters in the different books , the X MEN book with Wolverine in it should be Logans only book for abit tell the X Books have a crosover that counts finally. X Force & Factor books should have their own team members that aren't the other books . Wolverine i think should be down the line and maybe Laura take the reigns . You could X MEN,X, Uncanny X MEN,X Factor,X Force after 4 to 6 months have a crossover event where all 4 teams come together for some then have a shake up or 2 to the teams . Can't wait to see who will be on X Factor & X Force some good characters will be left out the books

Yes thats why i liked the x-men. Them being underground, trying to survive, and just constantly mucking things, barely making it out. Thats when the x-men work best, otherwise they're just another Avengers.

No thanks. To me, it’s all too little and too late. I’ll be sticking with Dynamite’s Gargoyles revival, instead. That, at least, has the guarantee of long-term game plans (courtesy of Greg Weisman), consistent storytelling (again, courtesy of Greg Weisman), and not burdened by a mountain of empty promises throughout the last decade-and-a-half.

"An x book for everyone!" White conservative christian: "even me?" "LOL, no"

First X-Men 97 and now this? Marvel just stop already!

If Brevoort thinks Im just a "cretin", then I guess I'll just keep my cretin money.

I’m shocked/not shocked that they didn’t give us a single big name writer/artist combo to get some asses in the seats.

Thankfully Peach Momoko is making sure we have at least one good X-Men title

How many relaunches does this make?

Celebrating diversity actually negates the reason to even have an X-Men line. Just sayin'. Diversity as a challenge is the point of the characters, 'nuff said 😢

Im so tired of mutants get a new land to live that place is destroyed then they find a new one rinse and repeat.

Why get excited for something that will likely get polluted, perverted and deranged in some twisted modernity? Sorry, I will get excited when there is something to get excited about. Hype in the comic book industry is stupid. So many let downs OVER AND OVER. There are so many crap stories or stories that start well and then fall flat or full on crater into the ground. I am not going to get excited for anything until I see some good stories. When I hear "Made for everyone," i hear more of the same old crap.

This ain't it