Marvel Legends SYMBIOTE SPIDER-MAN RETRO Black Suit Action Figure Review

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This may be the best Black Suit Spider-Man figure Hasbro has made but does that mean it's actually good based on its own merits or is it just good in comparison to mediocre, run-of-the-mill collectibles?
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@FREKKI 2 года назад

I HATE!!! This body! Mainly because of the neck joint I have to fix myself on every repaint they do but also for all the reasons you listed. Bad anatomy and worse articulation.

@julianhayden9961 2 года назад

How do you fix it?

@FREKKI 2 года назад

@@julianhayden9961 Had to Dremmel out the socket on the neck and install a new double ball joint.

@marvelingabout8240 2 года назад

Like the figure because of the character itself and for Legends it doesn't need too much paint as the black plastic could look like the sybiote. Mainly worried about it breaking as a more recent figure.

@marvelingabout8240 Год назад

@@desert_hunter83 Thanks! If see him in store for about 25, will get as long as it isn't warped. Prefer to see this one in person.

@ayan31_08 2 года назад

At first I used to him that Anthony was too much nit picky. But slowly I realized that they are for our good. No other reviewer goes into the nooks and cranny. Now before buying any figure I wait for a review here before making any decisions. All I have to say is thank you for your honesty and helping us out... Also these issues that you point out many of us dont find at first but when in hand. So viewing is a must

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

Happy to help

@kenpenalosa6963 Год назад

hey! no action figure is perfect! get use to it, either you spend shit money or just hope for a better figure worth your money!

@xeanheart 2 года назад

When it comes to the eyes and the hands, while they aren't comic accurate, they are accurate to the 90s cartoon, and as such I'm using this figure to represent that Spider-Man in my collection until the day comes where we get a proper figure of him.

@vadr6383 2 года назад

Mafex got one coming out in a few months.

@xeanheart 2 года назад

@@vadr6383 That one is based off of the comics, not the 90s cartoon.

@JN_KR20 Год назад

@@xeanheart ‏Exactly because the huge body is a bit muscular and the rectangular white mark on the whole hand indicates the shape of the cartoon, not the comic

@ImaHeatseekr 2 года назад

Pretty much agree with you on everything,it is the best black suit but that aint saying much the other ones are just okay at best,as far as the body id be happy with a lil sculpt detail at least if they keep reusing it what i do hate is the stupid torso joint i hate breaking the spider like that having those 2 point pf articulation reversed would look and work so much better,same with the new venom thats coming out and i mention this every time.

@sebastianurquidi6558 2 года назад

This body is fine for now and it’s certainly better than a lot of other Spider-Man bodies but if it’s ever redone I hope hasbro considers increasing elbow articulation, improving the double ball in the neck and replacing the ab crunch with another ball. Personally I really like the tasm 2 suit so if they include those features on the upcoming figure that would be a dream come true.

@spungchbop 2 года назад

I always appreciate the Photoshop sections because you perfectly capture what Hasbro SHOULD be capable of doing. I haven't gotten this Spider-Man or the first one with this body mold because at first glance, yeah they look fine but once you dig deep into them, the problems really start to stick out. And now that MAFEX announced their new repaint, there's no need to get these

@slimey-raven212 2 года назад

You’re also comparing a 20-30 dollar figure to a 90-100 dollar figure but you are right

@PestoPla 2 года назад

But not everyone has the budget for the Mafex tho…

@mannyperez4126 2 года назад

This. This right here is the comment that constantly gets me. Obviously for $60+ you should get a better figure with Mafex ( In theory). Its like saying thats why I love my Benz over my Toyota. Yeah no shit

@WheelyamEakaPEBBLES 2 года назад

Was looking forward to this review. Love ya content Anthony.

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

Thanks a lot

@obxnice 2 года назад

Why got to love this channel over many others, brutal honestly on the figure…granted he stats very clearly this is the best version of the black suited symbiote spider man, then he tears it a new a-hole telling you what is so messed up with it and maybe how it should been made, but yet still better then the other ones out there so get it. No fluffing me up with oh this is the bomb, it’s perfect, blah blah blah, just the truth. It’s not perfect but best we got to this day so if want it get it otherwise hope for a better version in future.

@3Tacos1coke 2 года назад

This is my favorite Spider-Man and got 2 immediately. One to wear the joints out playing and posing and the other one as a back up.

@rishav-2749 2 года назад

Definitely would love a better body or mods on this body-execute the double ball peg of the neck properly,remove that ugly cut behind his neck,add a waist cut,allow the drop down hips to have better rang, and lastly, add toe articulation (which they did with the upcoming Renew Your Vows 2-pack) for him to properly execute the 4 point crouch pose.

@biospider3.068 2 года назад

Love that you mentioned liking the source material on the card a lot more and the spikey design on the legs as opposed to the one they gave the figure. Ive always preferred that design myself and Mark Bagley has the best comic art imo of the symbiote spidey, venom and carnage. In all honesty im not excited about this figure after seeing reviews and what it turned out to be. If they had nailed that look on the card I wouldn't hesitate to buy. Edit: articulation could also be much better im sure. my dream six inch version of this black suit spiderman would be the mcfarlane spiderman body maybe 10% more bulky with the bagley design

@danrodriguez23 2 года назад

Thanks for the honest review

@knightcaptain7140 2 года назад

Thanks so much for your reviews and your honesty, I think I’m gonna switch my collection to Mafex going forward

@mr.slightlymad4496 2 года назад

Answering QOTD: I'm fine with this body, it's kinda one of their best. The biggest problems tho are his weird engineering in neck area and shoulders being too low. Thigh gap could be smalled too but other than that it's pretty much perfect buck for someone like Spider-Man or maybe Daredevil someday.

@pedrorosas3842 2 года назад

They should use the new Vulcan body for daredevil, since this one might be too small

@mr.slightlymad4496 2 года назад

@@pedrorosas3842 true, I'd want that scenario instead too but knowing Hasbro they might just reuse this one.

@dtejada1988 Год назад

Zup Anthony, I actually stop purchasing these marvel legends, and saving my money for a more high end one, not gonna pay $25 for the same, and not improved figure, thanks for the video 😎

@andiespinoza7768 2 года назад

Damn, the photoshop always slaps you silly when you see it. I wish I could make the ML team take a good look at it. So yes, I definitely want a better Spidey mold.

@randallpohl5408 2 года назад

I kinda wish they would use a ball joint for the waist with the ball joint torso instead of ab crunch. I think that would give him the best articulation. Also, fix that double ball neck. Just as you say, large ball in the neck and not seated so deep in the neck.

@climax90hero 2 года назад

Seeing how this one is has me worried about the Spinneret 2-pack. It's already hard enough to find a Spidey msrp priced so I gotta make sure the one I get is good enough. Thanks for the review as always, great insight.

@khalifaaltaee4351 2 года назад

Is there any way to remove the figure from the packaging without damaging the retro card itself? Thanks.

@Brawr183 2 года назад

I’ve seen shartimus cut the bottom out with an exacto. If you’re careful enough, you can probably make it somewhat collector friendly and be able to display on card again after taking it out

@winstonsmith3370 2 года назад

An X-acto knife

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

I showed this technique in one of the early ml retro reviews.

@mynamedoesntmatter3129 2 года назад

are you wanting to preserve the bubble as well, or just the card? for the bubble, I use a knife to make a cut along the bottom, that way I can slide the plastic tray in or out, without hurting the look. if all you want is the card, take a knife and (carefully) cut along the edge of the bubble, where it Meets the cardboard. do that all along the edges and just take the plastic off, and you'll have a nice card back without plastic! hope that helps. 😊

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

This

@DanB.0 2 года назад

Yup, another good one. Nice add-on to the Photoshop that you compared the silouettes all in black, that makes it very clear. It's still incredible we see Spider-Man figures that can't do the split xD

@epiclvlpurple19 2 года назад

Just patiently waiting on the Mafex version to release next month. Which will be the definitive black suit Spider-Man IMO. So yeah easy pass for me.

@hannahsaphire7643 2 года назад

I agree with your critiques. He looks great with the poses you did though! Thank you for the excellent review and photoshop Anthony❣️😻😽

@SP8inc 2 года назад

Personally I would add a balljointed waist to the crunch and upper balljoint, kinda like the toybiz spiderman. Because that would allow you to also twist the upper torso, making some kneeling hand-on-the-floor poses possible. Or just do a double barbel upper and lower torso and take out the crunch, lol.

@PestoPla 2 года назад

I dont mind it that much tbh since I preferred the romita-styled body, so seeing the black suit in the style makes me happy

@Jas-1119 2 года назад

I’m torn on the body, it is an upgrade but the head peg bugs the absolute hell out of me with the gaps. Really wish they gave it a blue-ish tint or something. Like they did a while back with that Bullseye in the Man Thing Wave.

@BGLoscar 2 года назад

Although the Eyes and Spider logo are nothing like what they're showing on the box art, it is comic accurate (1st appearance wise).. Other than that, great review as always!

@meneliktafari894 2 года назад

Nice review, much appreciated.

@jeremyoneill2851 2 года назад

Can you explain why they do the swivel cut at the calf on these figures? I hate it. It’s like trying to achieve something the ankle should be able to do

@lefty7127 2 года назад

Really love your videos.

@nhyar 2 года назад

Hate this mold, hate the drop down hips, they have never worked in my figures, lol. Retro Spidey: Only one of the legs can move down, the other doesn't do anything. Symbiote: Same issue as the retro. Ben Reilly: Both of the legs seem to move down but they are basically stuck.

@julianroninbb 2 года назад

Hasbro need to hire you to design action figures!

@stlancaandsonstoys3123 2 года назад

I agree on most all of your reasons and have basically quit collecting all Marvel Legends due to price point and the new packaging ordered 2 of the Wolverine animated series because wayched when was a kid but both copies came with a defective head sculpt so cancelled all my other orders may still get 1 copy of the rest of the main characters but only because of the fact I loved watching when was a kid. However I am only going to collect the Sh figuarts from now on or NECA, Hot Toys the real nice ones just cant see spending the money on Marvel Legends anymore just not enough there to really want me to get them all unfortunately

@fernandodelgado4329 2 года назад

I really want this figure because it has the 1980s Secret Wars vibe with the small eyes for the black suit, But I would pick up the retro Ben Reilly Sensational Spider-Man because I don't have a super posable Spider-Man figure, Thank you for the video.

@FinalConsensus 2 года назад

I actually really like this body. But always open to new moulds.

@ssjgoku0203 Год назад

We can’t have a perfect figure it’s impossible like how there isn’t perfect people

@searcher7478 2 года назад

Need a brand new body for sure!! Shoulders should be slightly higher/broader...thighs should be way less muscular and less gappage between them...waist muscles less chunky also. Personally I'd even prefer a well designed ab-crunch which follows the lines of the ab muscles so not to look unsightly. Would be much better than a hideous diaphragm cut right across the center of the figure fgs!

@randaljr.8581 2 года назад

the poses you made look sick tho!

@ingloriousmax 2 года назад

Love the in depth review and yea personally definitely been disappointed by this release after getting it and feeling it out. Does not help that mine is loooooose.

@lord_juuj7 Год назад

Hasbro be tryna embrace that “spider geek” w every spidey release

@shorteststraw03 2 года назад

I like this buck for spiderman. But it could be a lot better if some things were retooled. The droopy shoulders bug me. And the neck joint is poorly done.

@marvelingabout8240 2 года назад

Agree with the shoulders, though on this body it isn't too obvious. However the Legends Wolverine has the much smaller shoulders compared to the arms. Like your reviews!

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

Thanks. At least with wolverine the small shoulders are needed to fit the shoulder pads.

@RadtechCustoms175 2 года назад

The hips don't lie!! I wish they would give us vertical hinge gripping hands for web swinging. Does anyone know if it is possible to add sculpt to the legs and shoulders, instead of having to kit-bash? Ive never tried and really never seen it b4. hopefully u just got a bad copy, this paint is hella sloppy, I have one on order from BBTS. I had the OG one when secret wars came out when I was a kid, I gave to my cousin. Haven't had once since and am hyped for this, but it is still disappointing.

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

from the comments im reading, my paint job is better than most.

@brenoferreiraferreira4409 2 года назад

If Hasbro decided to spend money on a new mold why haven't they done it properly? That is the million dollar question. I100% agree with your critics, thanks for the review.

@noahlutzke9456 2 года назад

I’m fine with the body articulation besides maybe the elbows. For me the problems lies in the aesthetics. This is way to buff for me personally, and I prefer the skinnier look from the pizza Spider-Man, even though that molds articulation sucks. The retro mold is more romita inspired whereas I’d prefer something in the style of Mark Bagley or J. Scott Campbell.

@YTSORF 2 года назад

We love you brother

@thecollector616 2 года назад

I love the articulation but the obliques on it don't give it that v taper so he comes off more blocky than a spiderman should I guess?

@chicomac8450 2 года назад

“SHOCKERRRRRR!!!!! YOU CANT ESCAPE ME!!!!!”

@thetrap7346 2 года назад

My figure’s torso isn’t sealed so if I were to bend him back or forward too far, he’ll fall apart. Had to display him immediately.

@ryancasper6576 2 года назад

mine has been on preorder and pushed back so many times idk if ill ever get one

@flexiondynamo 2 года назад

Took 3 figures to get decent paint apps on this one.

@lengland521 11 месяцев назад

I love this spider man it’s solid I have the mafex one too I feel honestly mafex did a great job but they need to beef him up a bit like this one

@TheDavidvillarreal20 Год назад

So i know this is late in the game this figure hacing come out a yr ago, but i saw on instragram someon had replaced the shoulders of this spiderman with those of the newer black panther comic version shoulders, the one black panther with the plastic cape and grey gloves and boots, so i did this swap and … i dont know if its anatomically correct, but to me, it looks a whooole lot better and my spider is Beefier looking as a result!

@AnthonysCustoms Год назад

I'm sure it looks better. Send me a pic on social media

@TheDavidvillarreal20 Год назад

@@AnthonysCustoms will do

@TheDavidvillarreal20 Год назад

@@AnthonysCustoms sent on Instagram

@CyborgSodaCollects 2 года назад

Marvels tentpole character... Bad boys toys needs to ship this asap. Can't get a Mafex or a Mezco at a reasonable so this is what I have to contend with.

@captain_zed 2 года назад

I'm probably getting the Mafex release of the black suit Spidey.

@DreadDoorMan 2 года назад

I like how in past fan firsts the marvel team at hasbro talk about how they have the best engineers for their figures yet they couldn't go back on this mold and edit the hip articulation to make the legs do the splits. Even more so with that new U.S. Agent. That's pathetic.

@troublemaker8162 2 года назад

Love your reviews and your honesty and you are right in what you say, you have always said that your job as reviewer is trying to save us money on bad figures this figure came out at least 3 months ago maybe more by the time of your review, all of us who wanted the figure already have it, whether it is good or bad I like your videos but most of the time your reviews are very late

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

That's not true. Other than when there are shipping delays, my reviews come out when the figures get released.

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

You know i buy my figures like any collector, right?

@troublemaker8162 2 года назад

Yes you right, sometimes your reviews are late not always and I know you don’t get figures for free that’s why you’re the only one I trust when I want to buy a figure, you doing a great job 👍

@NEROSKIMA 2 года назад

Lol Anthony why did you delete my comment? The figure DID come out in February.

@kadelemonade 2 года назад

I’m only picking this up to have it on the card.

@chicomac8450 2 года назад

The neck on this Spider-Man body is completely trash. The new one hopefully is better

@Atrav7 Год назад

I recommend you change his shoulders with the ml black panther shoulders

@OverX6time 2 года назад

A new Spider-Man body with the mafex figure proportions would be great, the retro buck looks weird.

@GeezyCE 2 года назад

What you said. I hate this spider man body, but is the best tho

@edlattanzio6594 2 года назад

I put a pre order in back in April I’m still waiting smh

@julianhayden9961 2 года назад

I like the body just not the uppermost torso because I feel like the diaphragm, neck and arm joints could be so much better and the

@tanktopethan6736 2 года назад

i think they should make a spiderman body with a diaphragm and a ball joint at the waist, and they really need to fix the small shoulders on sunfire and instead use the comic shang chi or falcon shoulders

@TheDrRandomness 2 года назад

Aside from the neck with the bad ball joint and proportions on the shoulders and waist. I like this body alot compared to the pizza spider-man body because the articulation in the hips are so much better

@LaFloydJones92 Год назад

How do you remove your figures out the packaging?

@AnthonysCustoms Год назад

Cut a flap in the bottom of the outer blister

@JerryGattz 2 года назад

I am okay with this body design, but the neck feels like such a rookie design. IDK who okayed that, and that would be something I would expect to see on a late 90's or early 00's figure. Terrible.

@_quirky_3617 2 года назад

I got a new still in packaging one and it had tons of paint mishaps with alot the spider logo missing legs lol

@MrLeerolljankins 2 года назад

Had that happen to me on the back of the logo filled the missing lines in with a ball ink pen

@_quirky_3617 2 года назад

@@MrLeerolljankins I used some white paint I usually use for D&D miniatures. It worked fine but still that initial dissapointment sucked

@impossiblepie 2 года назад

My favourite spiderman suit!

@b.gcapone6965 Год назад

The old one reminds me of the McFarlane style black cloth suit tbh

@deathfox1193 2 года назад

As ugly as the neck is, I really wish they just shortened the peg. Raise the ball in the double dumbbell up to the top of the neck, widen the bar. It doest fully fix the ugliness, but it would both increase the range and reduce the risk of snapping. Like, that double bar bell scares the hell out of me given how thin and flexible it is. Don’t get me wrong, its a WAY more sturdy feeling plastic than the first one, but its still garbage and restricts range like crazy. With all things considered though, I’m happy with it. Way more so than the first Retro Spidey

@sundownstudios2.075 2 года назад

waiting on the Mafex version.

@BDWANNEMACHER 2 года назад

Are the blacks the same? They look pretty different to me in the video. For example, the head looks very mat versus the body which looks very shiny

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

They're as "same" as any ml. Not perfect but not terrible. The pvc parts are less shiny than the hard parts.

@simpledisplays511 2 года назад

Not necessarily a new body, but I wish hasbro will incorporate toe articulation especially for an agile character like spiderman

@simpledisplays511 2 года назад

But I do know that the new 2 pack spiderman set have toe articulation

@JacM78 2 года назад

Seems to me it's just a sunfire body mold with re-tooling in the chest and torso.

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

The entire trunk is different

@GT_rising24 2 года назад

The photoshop makes this Black Suit Spider-Man look way more intimidating than usual

@piggyv4972 2 года назад

Like Kraven when he borrowed the suit in Last Hunt.

@shauntothemaxx5639 2 года назад

The body is not good. I remember when the original one hit with the new body. It's like they'll go one step forward, two step back. It's like... ok, sloppily implemented diaphragm joint. Cool. Cut the accessories in half. Do nothing with the hips. I bought it. Was so disappointed with the original, I gave the figure to a friend who couldn't find it and sold the rest of my Spiderman collection because they kept, purposefully, half-assing every figure. The stupid part is, people act like this figure is the second coming of Christ...

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

A lot of people do seem to be overly happy with it.

@zannusx 2 года назад

This was a cash grab, they knew people would buy this and only gave us the minimum accessories with the 3 sets of hands. They totally could have budgeted in some web lines. Would also love an update video on your Rival Clans line, I know it's a slow process, but any updates would be nice.

@graefx 2 года назад

I dont like this mold. The torso in particular I prefer the other way, hinge neck, diaphragm crunch, swivel waist. But I actually like this figure, being solid black fixes so many issues I had with the retro and the build feels more appropriate to the symbiote. The head is a push, it's fine. Even though the old sandman baf head looks out of scale for this body, it just looks aesthetic better especially in the eye shape. And yeah hand mark should be a trapezoid not a square. Overall, it'll be my black suit figure and there's some older accessories that look good with it like the bearded Peter head.

@Toys_and_Tings 2 года назад

the hands have longer rectangles to match the animated series.

@EderCheder9000 2 года назад

Arnt we getting 2 new Spider-Man body molds soon? I really don’t like this mold.

@cutjack242 Год назад

Its 20 bucks. What do you expect? Sideshow?

@AnthonysCustoms Год назад

1 they aren't 20 bucks. 2 this review wasn't about my expectations at all.

@erickcontreras3724 2 года назад

I'm just waiting until he does more MK videos in the future

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

Very soon

@joseaugustoperezgomez2878 2 года назад

Hasbro says thats its the black costume spiderman, so its ok if they put it on the worst body mold i will sell well.

@migueltupayachi8238 2 года назад

How to you take out the figure from the beautiful package without ruining it? 🤔

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

cut a flap at the bottom

@daviid_ee 2 года назад

I am ok with this body, but it still does not feel ideal for a Spider-man. The arms cant reach higher without rotating either the shoulder joint or the bicep swivel. Those drop-down hinges in the hips do not provide any major help in the articulation.

@delmonciiidr Год назад

I despise the legs, it doesn't make any sense for his quads to be that bulbous and warped and for the obliques to be that big it looks like abeer belly, this all feels like a design disaster

@DevonFleck93 2 года назад

Not gonna watch this vid cuz I like this figure and want to continue liking it. 🤣 But imma like n comment cuz you the man. I just don’t want the truth rn.

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

Lol

@harrisondisc 2 года назад

If it’s actually Symbiote Spider-Man, then those thwip hands are useless. Fist hands are Symbiote Spidey’s “thwip” hands. Period.

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

True

@piggyv4972 2 года назад

He's worn it as a regular costume as much as he did as the symbiote at this point.

@harrisondisc 2 года назад

@@piggyv4972 Absolutely. Then he is Spidey in a black suit, and he thwips business as usual. When he wore the Symbiote, he did not. I even think the black suits he had made didn’t have the white blocks on the hands. Which are only there to thwip webs, btw. *edit- I tried to find pics without the blocks but couldn’t. My original point still stands though!

@harrisondisc 2 года назад

@@k4m1l83 Yeah I was incorrect about the white blocks. I mean as the figure is packaged, “Symbiote Spider-Man” those are unnecessary as the fist hands are the thwip hands also. Maybe “useless” was a bit dramatic.

@blueblitz338 2 года назад

👍

@jesusdavidmartinezsilveyra3983 2 года назад

I saw this figure in the pegs, I knew it was going to be hard to get, I skipped it because I hated the retro one so much, terrible and so over rated.

@sandpproductions1627 2 года назад

Did this figure come from BBTS??

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

Yes. Finally

@sandpproductions1627 2 года назад

@@AnthonysCustoms oh mine hasn’t come yet

@rafaelvolpiteixeira7315 2 года назад

The small shoulder bothers me a little, but I like this body, and I would love to see a daredevil with the classic red suit in this body

@sempai4056 2 года назад

I really enjoyed the body mold of the Spider Armor MK1 Spider-Man. I felt the body was most apporiate for Spidey. Maybe Hasbro can take inspiration from that mold and make an upgraded Pizza Spidey body with better articulation and more accessories as well, like alternate heads and web effects.

@doctorgiovanni853 11 месяцев назад

🤘

@itismeSahasra 2 года назад

I personally feel the arms and legs of the body are fine but the torso needs some reworking in order to have more effective articulation.

@leanmeangreenbeanmachine3347 2 года назад

This body is a few changes away from being "perfect" (for a marvel legends)

@JeanusPaulus 2 года назад

The only thing that I read or hear is, ¡I hate this, I hate that!, to be honest, I like this Spider-man.

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

Where are you reading and hearing that?

@Ultrazilla 2 года назад

Pizza Spidey Black Spidey is still better to me, lol.

@AnthonysCustoms 2 года назад

I would agree were it not for the long torso and teenager proportions.

@dalejones7450 2 года назад

Why the heck does he have thwip hands the webline comes from on top of the fist out of the white rectangle part. His thighs are to big and the white spider logo needs to come down to allow for the spiders mandibles.

@RIME387 2 года назад

Because in the comics, after he got rid of the alien suit, Black Cat gave him a cloth version of the black suit, but with that one he obviously needed his web shooters, so he was still doing the twipping pose to shoot his webs.