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John and the crew discuss the problems at Marvel with the studio’s tight schedule preventing Kevin Feige and other executives from addressing issues during the preproduction phases.
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@johngrayson9218 8 месяцев назад

Between 2008-2019, Marvel Studios had 23 releases. Between 2021-2023, Marvel Studios has had/will have 22 releases.

@darwinbowman8512 8 месяцев назад

Oh....OHHHHHH... that is baaaad😂😂

@thepoeticpainter8032 8 месяцев назад

"Quantity over quality" killed the MCU. Disney got greedy and lazy and it shows. They should go back to two films per year; we can do without the television shows.

@aroddy123 8 месяцев назад

They saturated the market with mediocre/poor product. This happened in the 90's with the comic books and it nearly ended that industry.

@elnazaghdam7771 8 месяцев назад

You are totally right about Kevin Feige. However, it raises a big question: if the quality of the MCU relies just on "Him" what will happen to the MCU without him?!

@splitfinger7719 8 месяцев назад

I’m shocked second/third tier characters aren’t driving the franchise right now…

@JerichoSteele 8 месяцев назад

I think people are looking at the MCU with rose coloured glasses. Not all of the movies prior to end game was great but it all led up to it and then it peaked when infinity war and end game came out. Now everyone is looking for that same feeling instantaneously.

@XwezzyO 8 месяцев назад

No one said everything before endgame was good, but there are a lot more hits than misses compared to now

@user-bt9yh8jn1q 8 месяцев назад

Most of There movies and shows are horrible now

@TheSt1092 8 месяцев назад

There were some misteps before Infinity War . The problem is therere are now more misses than hits coming from Marvel.

@smcauley600 8 месяцев назад

the franchise peaked years ago no doubt about that

@smcauley600 8 месяцев назад

@@TheSt1092 very true

@quest9133 8 месяцев назад

Everything fell apart for two reasons for me: 1) Too much content. The move to Disney + content was a mistake. While some shows have been good, they do very little to establish a cohesive narrative across the MCU and most of the shows are average and forgettable. You just consume marvel content for the sake of it but it is too much for the average viewer even for MCU die hard. Time to scale back. 2) No focus and conflicting narrative: Now can anyone tell me how Loki and multiple timelines reconciles to Dr Strange and multiverses and incursions. One show you have scared timelines and Kang. On the other you have multiple earths and incursions. Don’t tell me they are the same because they are not. When Loki took the taseract, he created another timeline. That is not the same as another earth and universe. Pruning timelines is not the same as incursions. It makes no sense at all about how these things tie. As well Kang has been a big disappointment. Antman I found to be a bad movie all around.

@w-james9277 8 месяцев назад

I checked out after Loki. For me the MCU starts with Iron Man and ends with Endgame.

@Chinoo1991 8 месяцев назад

You’re not alone John. I was thinking the same thing before the pendamic. Less Kevin = Less Quantity

@rickgalindo2568 8 месяцев назад

The MCU should’ve taken a 5 year break after Endgame. Too much saturation.

@sterlingarcher5698 8 месяцев назад

Over saturation wouldnt be an issue if the writing was good. The plotting and character work in some of the films are bad. The tone and themes are bad (looking at you Love and Thunder) in some of the films and the connectivity.... Moon Knight came out just before Thor. Both were about Gods and pantheons...and there was no connection?! Same for MK mythology and Rama-Tut. Could've been some hint, weave it into narrative to plant the question with audience, develop it later on.... Instead we got a vague picture on the back of a jacket that was irrelevant. Easter eggs have become superficial nods, rather than narrative forshadowing. And I suppose that sums it up. The MCU is superficial now, shallow and empty. Bringing the OG Avengers bk reeks of desperation. Replacing Kang with Doom after all the world building, will turn off most fans. Why bother getting invested if theyre just gonna u turn?

@anthonyhernandez2111 8 месяцев назад

I was intially so excited for shows coming mixed and tied into movies etc..but now, i wish they wouldve just stuck to 3 movies a year formula and find somehow to introduce all of these characters in giant 3 hour movies rather than making mediocre shows =/. i love the MCU, but if they getting slander its probably because the deserve it. but it DOESNT mean MCU cant be super great again! lets all have faith. MCU 2008-2019 was an AMAZING time . lets hope they do whats needed to get back to glory days

@worldwarrior1022 8 месяцев назад

My excitement and enthusiasm with Marvel would have remained the same if they could have done the following: 1. Made Hulk angry again. 2. Recasted T'Challa. 3. Scrapped She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel, Secret Invasion & The Eternals 4. Focused all their efforts & attention on Moon Knight. 5. Made a Hawkeye show that's an action-drama thriller. 6. Not butchered Thor 4 with annoyingly over-the-top comedy. 7. Released an Avengers movie in phase 4.

@joelrolston8736 8 месяцев назад

I think if Marvel wants a true event "show" in the near future, it needs to be the X-Men. I'm talking a true, 13-episode series that handles the character soap drama.

@sjordan2375 8 месяцев назад

sitting in the theater, it used to be as soon as the “Marvel Studios” title card began to play with the iconic music, I’d get giddy with excitement. personally have lost that feeling.

@JG-xt6eu 8 месяцев назад

New drinking game-take a shot every-time John says “I’ve said/been saying this…” lol 🍺

@prettyflyforafilipin 8 месяцев назад

Irionically, Loki is about how the Sacred timeline, needed to be pruned to avoid cataclysm.

@MrTeej6631 8 месяцев назад

I checked out after Multiverse of madness. I knew lol!

@shadmanbashar6067 8 месяцев назад

same

@srob1585 8 месяцев назад

Same same I think the last straw for me was she hulk. I was genuinely excited for it and it was so bad it lost me for everything else. Have not watched any marvel content since when it used to be some my favorite entertainment content

@MegaGeNeRaLEE 8 месяцев назад

To put things into perspective from the very beginning of the MCU in 2008 to the ending of the Infinity Saga in 2019 we had 22 MCU proper projects over the span of 11 years. Now between 2019 and 2023 just four years time, we’ve had 19 projects that’s not even including animated/specials or upcoming films like Marvels or Thunderbolts. That is absolutely insane that they’ve essentially pumped out more projects in 4 years than they did the first 11.

@nielsfrederiksen6636 8 месяцев назад

As a hardcore Marvel fan, I cant wait for the MCU to go away. It warps these characters into family friendly Disney versions and they lose their edge, wackiness and charm in the proces. Moon Knight and Captain Marvel are perfect recent examples. I dont want Hollywoods "modernized" version of these characters. I want the actual characters. Better to stick to the comics.

@jacksvendsgaard2270 8 месяцев назад

I've honestly started skipping Marvel projects. I feel like the severe drop in quality has discouraged me from feeling like I need to see every project. They desperately need to get back on track.

@ChaseSchleich 8 месяцев назад

Decent writers, reading the scripts before shooting and not shooting the 1st draft of their scripts would be a good start

@andrewkozlowski4839 8 месяцев назад

I hope the DCU is good

@ludo3375 8 месяцев назад

The marvel stories and characters that Disney has pushed out have not been appealing, period. Fixing the sfx, cutting the content, or spending more money will do nothing to fix the real problem. If you make good stories that your core audience accepts, people will eventually come on board

@jadan2000 8 месяцев назад

Kriss is sooo correct! They need to focus on Quality and not go backwards!

@JB3LL89 8 месяцев назад

Moving away from the Multiverse storyline would probably be best at this point

@freddied8479 8 месяцев назад

Not every character should have their own show/movie. Like nobody was asking for Echo or Iron Heart. It's too much.

@Tangerine_6924 8 месяцев назад

Starting with Deadpool 3 I think is when mcu will be on an incline again

@fredrickgarrettsr2632 8 месяцев назад

U rite !! But after watching them regress thor, hulk and fury making them shadows of their former selves to try a elevate new one and the story sucks !!! U lose faith in the shows and movies.

@MandosCulture 8 месяцев назад

everything fell apart with Covid story changes. EVERY SINGLE project that was rumored to be heavily affected by COVID changed storylines, timelines, and even availability. Lets not even talk about how bad those shows and movies did. The programing (THANKS CHAPEK) on top of them already not being able to complete things, left us with so much of the broken shows and movies we've been dealing with. Now they are trying to change things mid stream while not paying for the talent (writers and directors etc) who can really make great quality films. They need to drastically reduce quantity for a few years and get everything in order. expand the teams before they want to try new ventures, focus on the stories being complete and make the movies LOOK GOOD (PAY THE FX PEOPLE). if they did they would be in a great place. They planned so much for the first 10 years... Now everything is in freefall and their isnt a focus on creating a quality product.

@user-bt9yh8jn1q 8 месяцев назад

Don't blame covid. That's an excuse. Marvel been on decline in general.

@stichhavoc88 8 месяцев назад

Chapek isn’t innocent bjt Iger is also to blame as well as Feige

@MandosCulture 8 месяцев назад

Chapek is to blame@@stichhavoc88

@marcgodley3064 8 месяцев назад

I feel like everything fell apart when Chadwick Boseman died. It seemed like the MCU at that point in time was kinda riding on him. If he still would’ve been here with us, we may have gotten other projects sooner that made more sense when you look at the overall landscape. If they really want to fix this, put the focus on the mutants while they figure the multiverse saga out.

@user-to4zl2nk2j 8 месяцев назад

Dam he likes the sound of his own voice 😂

@japhetaguirre4880 8 месяцев назад

But weren't the TV shows and most movies announced before Chapek came in? I feel like Chapek is the scapegoat for the results made way before him.

@TheMa5cmpb 8 месяцев назад

Yes they were. John loves to blame Chapek.

@miguelalvarado1171 8 месяцев назад

Disney has gotten soo bad I cancel my subscription two days ago. The way I see this subscriptions channels is you want my money you must give me great programming

@Queue22 8 месяцев назад

i agree. but i felt like i was being yelled at and lectured lol

@mcastro187 8 месяцев назад

I’ve seen every single MCU movie in theaters since the first iron man movie came out. My interest in The Marvels is so low, that streak will probably end now. It was a good run

@Chill59190 8 месяцев назад

That South Park special had opened the Pandora's box and now everything is coming out swinging. Disney, Marvel, Lucusfilm... When people try to say things about pandering, they're the "problem" but now the general audiences starting to get wind of everything. And they wonder why people is not going to see anything they put out anymore.

@Lifeof728 8 месяцев назад

MUH MERMAIDDDD

@iamchrissanders 8 месяцев назад

Just like the old one did, the new Blade could change everything for Marvel.

@stevenlewis7749 8 месяцев назад

There used to be a continuity to the MCU, with everything leading up to Thanos and then Infinity War / Endgame. Now nothing really feels connected. Every movie has post-credit scenes with different characters leading them in different directions. I assume everything should be building up to Kang he has only been 'a thing' in one movie and two seasons of a show. What about Harry Styles as Thanos' brother? Should I care about what Charlize Theron wanted with Doctor Strange? Where has White Vision been for the past few years? Is Shang-Chi important? I really enjoyed that movie but nothing else in the MCU has mentioned those characters or events AFAIK. It's all so disjointed now. I used to be "all in" on the MCU but even movies like Guardians 3 and No Way Home, which should be key parts of a narrative through line, feel like disparate corners of a big mess of stuff.

@andycalmes4201 8 месяцев назад

This was the reason for the “bomb after bomb after bomb” announcements that got everyone so hyped…then we were let down when they stopped announcing things.

@TrophyDad117 8 месяцев назад

I didn’t believe it the first time I saw the meme posted but looking back the MCU really did die with Tony Stark.

@PopCultureBuddy 8 месяцев назад

The problem with big corporations owning franchises is that they try to milk every last possible dollar from it. Breaks are good. After Endgame they should have take a minimum 5 year break. Let everyone recharge the batteries and develop the next story/direction of the films. Plus the anticipated “Return of Marvel” to the theaters would have been insane. An event of the decade type of event. Now I think most people are burnt out on Marvel.

@korovamilkbar8527 8 месяцев назад

It’s over guys. They had a good run but it’s done now. The problem is the shared universe, you can only take it so far without running into problems. They should just start over immediately and they will have better success.

@Tuntira 8 месяцев назад

This isn't atypical of any other business, a company finds succeed, they try to get explosive growth and then suffer for it. What is most important is that they have the capital (not just financial) to figure out what went wrong and resolve the issues. Iger back in was the first good step and now it'll take time to fix the issue, but they are making all the right noises so far. One thing that is NOT needed is going back to Cap and Iron Man as the pillars that the MCU is built on. They are great characters but there is no need to keep rebooting and reusing them at the expense of other characters. I mean, people complain about no consequences, but then want to bring back characters that have died.

@The_Marvelorian 8 месяцев назад

Brilliant and objective analysis John. I agree with all of what you described. Especially of Kevin Feige. My only criticism of Feige is choosing to stick to the multiverse as the overall narrative for the saga. I wish he would make Kang an intermediate level villain like Loki and Ultron, relegate multiverse to a side story that ends in a Doctor Strange movie or something. Tje multiverse isn't interesting. What was great about the Infinity War saga was the journey was exciting audiences and just the destination. The multiverse saga feels like it's more interested in getting to the end to make us excited by filling it with nostalgia bait, than it is the journey of taking us through the story that ends in Avengers

@jjeKKell 8 месяцев назад

Aside from obvious failures like Secret Wars, Marvel's problem at the moment is one of oversaturation. The audience is getting burnt out on the notion someone being able to fling another person halfway across the city into a skyscraper just so they can get up and walk away. Meanwhile, without rebooting their best characters Marvel is forced to appeal to a wider and wider audience with lesser known and lesser interesting properties. I'm sure they'll continue to make good movies from time to time, but they really need to focus on quality over quantity if they're going to get people to pay to see these films in theaters, and not just wait to watch at home.

@benriley973 8 месяцев назад

Secret Wars hasn’t come out yet, buddy

@JoseSanchez-wg4bd 8 месяцев назад

Marvel Comics > MCU

@mauditebalvenie 8 месяцев назад

Eh the best Marvel stuff coming out is the Spiderverse trilogy

@JoseSanchez-wg4bd 8 месяцев назад

@@mauditebalvenie not the mcu , I mean the mcu has a lot of generic characters instead of the classics like X-men , Fantastic Four and the avengers.

@Dis2good 8 месяцев назад

Kris - i agree with you 💯!! It’s missing great story telling!!!!!! I don’t mind the amount of content, but it’s not good. Thor Lover & Thunder should not have been a comedy for starters. Like you said, I was willing to get invested into the characters but it doesn’t seem like Disney wants to 😔

@dude_1983 8 месяцев назад

Shang-Chi, Spider-Man: No Way Home, and Guardians 3 have all been the only movies Marvel has put out that were great! Everything else has been mediocre to just under good. The shows have all been okay except Wandavision and Loki. Changes are needed big time.

@anothervictory2595 8 месяцев назад

Shang-chi was good up until the whole hidden magic village crap. They should have kept it a hong-kong style martial arts action thriller movie.

@zaymm10 8 месяцев назад

Lol I wish yall would stop pretending like Feigie didn't have a team helping with all of this in the beginning.

@apflor323 8 месяцев назад

Chapek... Nuff said

@issiewizzie 8 месяцев назад

Sadly, it's the movie business and their shareholders to please

@daniellove162 8 месяцев назад

When rumors become facts. Interesting.

@isaiahc2994 8 месяцев назад

amazing line when saying we no longer EXPECT marvel projects to be good, but we HOPE for it now. every movie, and TV show i go into im crossing my fingers it isnt a waste of time. If I wasn't so optimistic in the fact that I think they can turn things around, I would've fell off after love and thunder. I think they can do 3 big movies, 3 ACTUAL shows (meaning 10+ episodes), and 2 specials a year. either that or you need a kevin fiege Jr

@Moneyman33344 8 месяцев назад

The problem is they are giving all the attention to bullshit characters😂😂😂the original avengers should have never went anywhere after endgame and they should have immediately had FF and Xmen ready to go...NOT give us fucking captain marvel ,agatha and echo wtf😂

@daltonmeadesmith 8 месяцев назад

Don't bring Agatha into this. She's my favorite fictional character, and her show is gonna be iconic.

@anothervictory2595 8 месяцев назад

Exactly. They need to drop the wokeness and the multiverse garbage, which is played out. FF and mutants are definitely the future. If they weren't ready from the get go, they should have taken a brief detour with more grounded street level heroes before going back to global and cosmic level material.

@lamtranpartners_ 8 месяцев назад

Time for Feige to have less on his plate Crafting great movies takes time and care and it feels like Chapek was just asking for flooding the Disney + platform for corporate reasons 😮 Hopefully they’ll just give Kevin more time to breathe and make his team stronger. Kinda worried about the Multiverse saga with… There’s already the Jonathan Majors issue and the pressure to generate more content to the detriment of quality. Let’s see how that’s gonna go within the next 2-3 years with this new direction. Hopefully they keep Disney core and make it move forward with great movies

@smcauley600 8 месяцев назад

100% agree with john, too many cooks spoil the broth

@rawyld 8 месяцев назад

You are so correct, that's why Bob Iger had to come back and acknowledging now that Disney needs to scale back on the products because the quality of the media was not that great.

@benm5970 8 месяцев назад

It really comes down to just the fact that the MCU is making way too much content now, it used to be the MCU would only have 1 or 2 projects a year, which made them feel much more like events, it also allowed for Kevin Feige to put more time and care into them, but now we’re getting like 4 or 5 projects a year, which means that he’s only able to give like 30% to each project, which makes them feel a lot less polished, even though I’ve been a fan of some of them I think it was ultimately a mistake for Marvel to introduce the Disney+ shows, because like I said, it’s caused them to get way too trigger happy with how much stuff they’re putting out, they should’ve just stuck to movies, I hope that now that they’ve made the decision to cut back on the amount of stuff they’re putting out we can finally see them return to making really great stuff again but yeah, there’s no doubt that this is what ultimately caused them to drop in quality

@geoffrobinson 8 месяцев назад

Ike Perlmuter was right, especially about bloated budgets.

@Kelvin-fj4tp 8 месяцев назад

There always has to be a lapse. Make people want more. Consumers

@BlimpCityFeeder 8 месяцев назад

Marvel also played it too close to the vest. War Machine should have been ended falling to the ground in civil war. Swordsman should have ended either Hawkeye. Scarlet Witch should have awakened beside Magneto Bova & Pietro after the Dark Hold in DS2. Ned should have had Hobgoblin Easter Eggs especially with the lbs dude lost.

@omardavids3074 8 месяцев назад

Solution… Stop making Marvel movies and series, for a few year. Reboot with Fantastic Four, no multiverse, good writing & script, no identity politics, good CGI. Recasts or rehiring previous actors isn’t gonna solve the problems.

@darwinbowman8512 8 месяцев назад

My honest thoughts on a solution is to focus on character building, introducing new heroes and endearing them to the audience and slowly build up to a new avengers roster and THEN do multiverse stuff.

@spicymemes7458 8 месяцев назад

I just finished The Boys first time through (Gen V is next) and it only compounds these issues further.

@deewest1472 8 месяцев назад

I think Marvel has had its run ....nothing last forever .

@smcauley600 8 месяцев назад

except twinkies

@noahbunch52 8 месяцев назад

When Campea is right, he is RIGHT. He predicted all this years ago. Crazy how Disney couldn’t see the potential issue in oversaturation.

@hologram952 8 месяцев назад

With the eventual reboot, soft or otherwise, they really need to recast younger talent for the any and all the characters. There needs to be a new generation. that they can tell the full stories they really want/can. The current projects up to Secret Wars should just be the farewell I feel like they're planning, but after that, recast.

@jamesreegs9711 8 месяцев назад

The MCU peaked with Endgame. Yeah, there were some bright spots in Phase 4 like No Way Home and Guardians 3, but the overall steady decline is more than noticeable now. I’m even finding it difficult to still stay excited for titles that I initially felt good about when they were announced like ‘Thunderbolts’ and the inclusion of the F4 and the X-Men. This news is also severely disappointing. I say this with a heavy heart as a comic fan and a MCU fan.

@jeebs621 8 месяцев назад

Endgame is the reason marvel is failing, it was seen as a finale by the general audiences. The newer characters might as well be members of an Avengers tribute band.

@gsentinel4821 8 месяцев назад

Agreed

@Lifeof728 8 месяцев назад

Avengers cover band 😂

@Dis2good 8 месяцев назад

Wakanda Forever and Spider-Man No Way Home were really good stories. I think the last 2 that were actually good!

@KrunkyTown 8 месяцев назад

Guardians Vol 3?

@mrnegativepredictsthefuture 8 месяцев назад

Wakanda Forever was terrible

@zombiemaddness99 8 месяцев назад

Do you think the Marvels will be the next hit?

@KrunkyTown 8 месяцев назад

@@mrnegativepredictsthefuture Wakanda Forever was incredible. 🫡

@Dis2good 8 месяцев назад

@@KrunkyTown i didn’t see it. I lost interest until Deadpool. Although, i did hear that GOTG was good.

@landonhulett2119 8 месяцев назад

I'm vehemently against Marvel/Disney reviving Iron Man and Black Widow. For three reasons: 1) This move would only show how desperate and dire Disney would be in trying to win the audience back with the MCU. It also shows how full remedial the higher ups would be by thinking: "By bringing Tony Stark/Iron Man and Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow back; people would love the MCU again because how beloved those characters are. Plus, we're Marvel baby! People love Marvel regardless of what we do." Yeah, not caring about the repercussions this move will do. 2) It'll make Stark's and Romanoff's sacrifices in Endgame less impactful and possibly lose all meaning. Phase 4 and onwards is meant have that lingering effect of what those two characters done in restoring the world. Plus, Stark's sacrifice in that final act gave him an eternal status that will be taken away if he's revived. The same goes to Romanoff to an extent. 3) Like it or not, Yelena Belova and Riri Williams are intended to be the successors of Iron Man and Black Widow respectably; with Riri as Iron Heart and Yelena as the next Black Widow. By bringing Stark and Romanoff back, it'll make Riri's and Yelena introductions of Phase 4 meaningless. What purpose do they have if they're not successors of Iron Man and the Black Widow? Marvel/Disney would introduce them in the MCU for nothing if that's the case.

@dhehdbdbsshshsbsbs 8 месяцев назад

Marvel came out strong with wandavision, was pretty good, tfatws was above average, depends on ur taste, Loki was obviously great, those 3 shows I had no problem with, I honestly thought marvel was just gonna continue there amazing track record and hit us with an incredible saga, then black widow came out, that was the first kind of punch in the face, I was iffy but marvel had done mediocre in the previous 3 phases so I wasn't even mad, I enjoyed what if, probably more than most people, Shang chi was fun, then eternals was another punch in the face, and a bad one at that, pushing agendas, and terrible writing were the main problems for me, Obviously we all loved Hawkeye and no way home, but that film needed to bring back tons of nostliagia. November-December 2021 was great for the mcu and marvel, I enjoyed mom more than most people, left the theater pretty disappointed, moon knight was just garbage, didn't like that at all, and then the Final Blow for me was Thor 4, that film was the lowest of lows, not funny and trash, didn't watch ms marvel, it looked pathetic, watched she hulk anddidnt like it, thought the first episode was good and the rest was mediocre, the I am root shorts didn't matter to me, werewolf by night was fine, felt disconnected, black panther wakanda forever was a major disappointment, I can't pretend just because Chadwick is gone I enjoyed it, cause I didn't, and namor was stupid. Ant man and the wasp wasn't even horrendous just so disappoint to the point I didn't care. And since January 2023 I haven't even seen a Great marvel project, ant man, secret invasion were both bad, and guardians 3 was good but nothing over the top, we are a few weeks out from the marvels which will flop, and echo and Agatha will as too.

@benriley973 8 месяцев назад

All those people saying "Marvel's in shambles" "MCU is dying" are gonna have a field day with this

@zaymm10 8 месяцев назад

And rightfully so

@arturobenavides7549 8 месяцев назад

as they should.

@Moneyman33344 8 месяцев назад

Good hopefully it will wake the MCU up because they fell off soooo hard

@PuertoRocPrime 8 месяцев назад

Because we were right

@Nique1057 8 месяцев назад

A lot in that article has already been debunked

@Alton7771 8 месяцев назад

Cant 't wait for people do blame Brie Larson or wokness for this.

@Dear_9000 8 месяцев назад

Its not that its not real though. A lot of of their films has been being politically correct, weird character, and uncompelling stories. Its not the main reason but it is one of...

@smcauley600 8 месяцев назад

they are too busy growing there neck breads

@anothervictory2595 8 месяцев назад

Wokeness is definitely the elephant in the room. I don't understand why a company would put prop a ganda over profits.

@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom 8 месяцев назад

@@Dear_9000You could still tell compelling stories while being politically correct.

@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom 8 месяцев назад

@@anothervictory2595 Easy: They don't. It's not propaganda, it's gimmicks. They spread themselves thin so they sprinkle in faux political correctness to make them seem more hip.

@josermaiz 8 месяцев назад

It’s time to bring dr doom but it’s have to play by Julian and Toby former dr dooms and for og 6 led them be from other earths like superior iron man play by Robert Downey jr not Tom cruise, Natasha from what if seréis, Thor from what if and president Steve Roger’s, hulk from what if zombies episode and Hawkeye

@miguelalvarado1171 8 месяцев назад

Netflix you are next on my list show me good programs or I see you later

@samanthamaclean1430 8 месяцев назад

I do want marvel to succeed so far I’m enjoying Loki season two and I think the stuff they want to do with Daredevil and Blade seem like a good idea hopefully will turn them around in the right direction and also focus on a good story narrated and characters

@jamiepeterson1981 8 месяцев назад

I can't speak for others but five years ago I was at the midnight screening for every new MCU movie. Now - I havnt seen the last couple at all yet and have zero interest in The Marvels. And what it comes down to is that the characters simply aren't there. The old ones are gone and the new ones are just terrible and I don't care.

@musclenfinesse 8 месяцев назад

The MCU was cool in my late 20s and early 30s but I’m almost 40 and I’ve totally lost interest. I don’t run an entertainment/movie podcast so keeping up with interconnected plots don’t interest me as a 40 year old man. There is life to be lived. IDK I’m one of the former hardcore MCU fans pre pandemic that now post pandemic I just don’t care and don’t want to care. It’s times consuming

@TriniDB 8 месяцев назад

It’s the end of Marvel as we know it. It’s the end of Marvel as we know it … is Feige fiiiiiiine?

@docscott189 8 месяцев назад

If Marvel is failing because Kevin Feige is spread too thin, then it’s an unsustainable model anyway. At some point it has to end anyway. If there is no one else in the leadership chain who can’t do what he does at that level, it’s on borrowed time.

@davidmthekidd 8 месяцев назад

CULTURE WARS!!!!

@smcauley600 8 месяцев назад

context is king buddy

@davidmthekidd 8 месяцев назад

dead brand. @@smcauley600

@king50ace2 8 месяцев назад

@martinalbert29 8 месяцев назад

Just tease bringing back cap and iron man back in the post credit scenes in the next movies, actually bring them back a few movies before avengers and let them highlight the 2 avengers movies. There you go, people will watch.

@FriendsFan4ever 8 месяцев назад

I think Loki Season 2 has been awesome. The best Marvel show so far.

@taki75 8 месяцев назад

There have been already two scoops from this Variety article that have been debunked: the Blade was fourth character script and the DaCosta abandoning the Marvels during post-production. Marvels has problem but this was clearly a sensationalist hatchet job.

@philipcohen7192 8 месяцев назад

Wouldn’t fans rather then swing and miss than just putting out the same content over and over

@matchesmalone2625 8 месяцев назад

That’s the exact reason I prefer the DC stuff over Marvel. There are some movies that feel like marvel clones, but some of them took chances and they felt finally different from each other

@yonghominale8884 8 месяцев назад

Fire Kevin Feige and reboot the entire thing in 3 to 5 years.

@Roverde 8 месяцев назад

Fire the guy who generated billions for the company....

@LycanVisuals 8 месяцев назад

The lowest earning MCU movies are what the rest of filmmakers are wishing they make in the box office sheesh

@Loggie20 8 месяцев назад

I don’t wanna see them bring any old characters back until they right the ship. And yes stop putting out so much content. I checked out some time ago. I couldn’t keep up after while.

@buki3009 8 месяцев назад

I've said it over and over disney had it all Marvel and star wars : for the boys Pixar : for familly and girls Challenge this with thr force is female, and M-she-u and VOILA !!! You succesfully fumbled the bag, of cours you have some females and some men interchanging interest on these properties, but if you try to F around with the core audiances with each spectrum you gonna found out

@cozytravelz 8 месяцев назад

The problem is that Marvel is taking a male genre and targeting it to woman. It’s like making a romantic comedy and filling it with action. Men won’t watch it, and women will be pissed

@jujutsumaster4894 8 месяцев назад

Marvel is for everyone to enjoy and that's why it's so big. There's no such thing as a male genre. There are projects that are MORE targeted to a certain audience but overall not a boy/girl thing.

@jo-elbrown5893 8 месяцев назад

Comic Book films in general is a male dominated genre man. @@jujutsumaster4894

@benriley973 8 месяцев назад

I see some of the Nerdrotic crowd have made their way into this comment section

@shyrusangoluan5509 8 месяцев назад

@@benriley973 he's just saying the truth, diversity is okay as long as it doesn't feel rushed and biased

@jo-elbrown5893 8 месяцев назад

I not a fan of nerdrotic, but Disneys biggest problem right now is they are making films and shows that no one cares about seeing. this happening with lucasfilm and Disney animation and so forth. I mean from the get go problem number one for Marvel was after Engame who would be in the next cast of avengers to get excited about?@@benriley973

@TheSt1092 8 месяцев назад

The problems started when Bob Iger got rid of Ike Perlmutter. Perlmutter kept Feige in check. Having diversity of casting is fine as long as storytelling quality remains high. The problem with Hollywood and Disney in particular (Lucasfilm and Marvel Studios included) is that they are prioritising that over good storytelling and developing interesting . Hollywood needs to stop preaching to people and focus on entertaining them with good old fashioned escapism.

@raynwolfsbane2084 8 месяцев назад

Minority characters existing in fiction isn't preaching.

@Deather312 8 месяцев назад

Such a stupid comment. Perlmutter was holding back the marvel Team under kevin feige creatively and financially. Perlmutter is an old dude with no heart for story and characters. Perlmutter wanted to replace tony stark in civil war. And thats just one of his many bad proposals and decisions…

@benriley973 8 месяцев назад

Take your behind back to Valliant Renegades comment section

@jujutsumaster4894 8 месяцев назад

Diversity isn't even in the conversation. Simply casting diverse actors for a project won't automatically ruin it. That's just silly.

@TheSt1092 8 месяцев назад

Was he holding Feige back or was he making sure Feige made stuff people wanted to see? I'm inclined to think think the latter. Perlmutter was there to make sure that Feige made commercially viable movies that could also sell lots of tie in merchndise which the current movies are not . Everything up to Infinity War was mapped out with out with help from the Ikes of Perlmutter. Perhaps he was holding Feige back with good reason. Kevin Feige has beome Kathleen Kennedy 2.0@@Deather312

@benriley973 8 месяцев назад

The whole thing with Nia DaCosta not being involved in post production has been debunked

@jzhen001 8 месяцев назад

Haven't had a great time in mcu since Ironman 1

@flyguy7825 8 месяцев назад

The MCU is fine. They're still head and shoulders. The number one grossing movie studio in the world. Nobody comes close to them, even their lowest grossing movies are like historical grossing movies for other studios and other films. When their movies don't gross a billion, it seems like everybody is in a panic That's how high the bar is for them

@insomatic420 8 месяцев назад

not this year, their literally not the number 1 studio this year its Universal so ur wrong

@Ty77877 8 месяцев назад

Marvel is fine there’s no crisis. Marvel fans are the most negative people on the planet. Anyone who has been following the Jonathan majors knows he’s obviously gonna be innocent. I’m sick of all the hate for him from people who know nothing about the case.