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Mary Harrington | Feminism Against Progress 

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Kate & Holly discuss Mary Harrington's book Feminism Against Progress (2023).

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28 ноя 2023

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@ieatyog
@ieatyog 5 месяцев назад
This really isn't name calling, but neo-fascist writers ( I'm thinking Maurice Bardeche) also wrote nostalgically and very poetically about lost good times where man and woman held a home together, lived modestly and happily, and that progress is an alien concept making us unhappy and unsatisfied. It's actually scary to see women who call themselves feminists entertain such ideas.
@JohnRussell2512
@JohnRussell2512 6 месяцев назад
1) Reminds of my 17 year old self --- Reading a book meant for the majority of the public, and going "oh there's nothing about me, so it's bad." 2) And yes the patriarchy! Do you all have any scientific evidence/data (the same kind that you ask of Mary) that things could've gone differently? Or that if it wasn't the patriarchy, this nebulous other system that's never been tried would've been better? 3) Spend a few years in a pre-school and you'll see that sex-differences aren't socially constructed. Unless you wanna say that the differences are due to parents treating boys and girls differently from 0 to 2. 4) Same mistakes --- from Rousseau to Marx to their intellectual descendants --- incorrect assessment of human nature. 5) Holly, you've got beautiful eyes. Kate, you have a lovely smile.
@kelechii7209
@kelechii7209 7 месяцев назад
This is hilarious to watch as an ex-GC because I now see all gender critical feminism as a form of sex realism and calling what is cultural and a result of gender hierarchy, sex. Catherine Mackinnon equally thinks the same. The 'gender constructs sex' wing of the radical feminist tradition that included feminists like Monique Wittig, is being ignored.
@camf7841
@camf7841 6 месяцев назад
From the way your videos describe living under patriarchy as a person in a visibly female body, it seems like the experience must be both dehumanizing and isolating at times. It must be doubly frustrating to see cis women’s struggles go so often unseen and unaddressed. Your unique experiences as cis women deserve to be heard. We are not your enemy. ❤ -Love, a trans woman
@dchappy6985
@dchappy6985 6 месяцев назад
So men and women are different?
@CatherineKarena
@CatherineKarena 7 месяцев назад
I really think you should bring people on like Mary Harrington and have a debate, or a discussion at least. I don't think you've done an accurate read of her views, I wonder if you can. You seem to reconstruct what she says according to your own frameworks, or pick out points of her argument seen through your lens - and I don't think that lens accurately portrays what she is saying. You've cherry picked stuff that you can re-explain according your perspective. A lot of what she is saying isn't coming from being shaped from the tidy mess of academic university studies, dissertions and interpretation and cross referencing with other like minds. I think there are number of serious criticisms that can be made about radical feminism - I think it can be a very destructive perspective, particularly of mothers, dismissal of the impact of community building that's common in so many societies by women, it seems always to use males as a reference of equality, the thing to match, its also white as fuck - with a history that references white female history, (with the occassional coloured person divorced from their original culture) as the cultural standard or reference for all women. I think a discussion with Mary Harrington - would be a good shake-up - and a truer way to see if you've read her right.
@lavenderroseluvzwomen891
@lavenderroseluvzwomen891 6 месяцев назад
If it's one thing the Internet should have taught us, young women cannot grasp Second Wave Feminism. Either doesn't translate across the generations or they just never developed a background in politics, history and Marxism to grasp it fully.
@selina2053
@selina2053 6 месяцев назад
Ladies you seemed to express some prejudice towards indigenous cultures and also speak as though indigenous people only exist in the past...rather disappointing
@pbrown0829
@pbrown0829 6 месяцев назад
How dare they don’t mention the current thousand of people that are indigenous when the 99.9% of the world isn’t. I’m literally shaking right now listening to these Nazis
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