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Maserati Grancabrio - 4 Things You Lose Other Than The Roof! ZF Vs MC? 

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Is this the pound for pound greatest DadCar in the world? Whats better the MC shift automated manual or the ZF torque converter auto? What do you loose going topless? can you fit child seats in and a buggy in the boot?
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@mrigaanko
@mrigaanko Год назад
Sending positive thoughts out into the universe, Ben, you will own an FF and a 4.7 GranTurismo and much more. Your kids will one day look back on your videos and your passion for cars and more importantly for your family, will make them proud!
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Ah thanks man 🥹 very kind words 🙏
@MadeinItaly-Maserati
@MadeinItaly-Maserati 6 месяцев назад
@@dadcars What microphone did you use to record the audio?
@Passchen
@Passchen Год назад
If I had to have a single car for all situations it would be a GranCabrio. As it stands I'm hoping to keep it separate and my #1 pick for a replacement daily to go alongside my Alfa Romeo Spider is a gen 5 Quattroporte (late S or GT S). It's such a bucket list car and engine in particular. Thank you, Ben, for bringing your perspective to the world of automotive RU-vid, and I hope your channel keeps growing so you can land yourself in that 4.7L V8 someday.
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Thanks for the lovely comment 🥲🙏
@deaks25
@deaks25 Год назад
It always makes me smile when your daughter nods off on these reviews, no matter how loud the car is. She obviously finds being in a car comfortable, which is good sign for a future petrol head 👌 For me there are two cars that undeniably look better as a convertible rather than a coupe; the Jaguar E-Type and the Chrysler Crossfire
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Great shouts, yes there’s nothing that soothes my little ones to sleep like a V8/V12 😊
@JonWhitworth
@JonWhitworth Год назад
Love it mate. Nailed the delivery as usual and great to feature another beautiful Italian machine ;)
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Nice QP in there as well 😉🙌
@nekite1
@nekite1 10 месяцев назад
What sold this clip for me was the look of absolute delight on your daughter's face whenever you gave it the beans. The sound of that engine is second to none. I remember the old Top Gear clip where Clarkson told May to shut up so he could hear the howl of a Quattroporte being driven at full chat by the Stig. Pure opera!
@dadcars
@dadcars 10 месяцев назад
It’s so cool how much she enjoys these cars… she always talks about this one still now
@nekite1
@nekite1 10 месяцев назад
You have a future petrolhead in the making there.
@haranghy
@haranghy 8 месяцев назад
so this was a garage queen. Owners say these cars should be driven, the engine is bullet proof but they don't like being parked for long in the garage. A beautiful design. Tnx for the video.
@simoncosgrove4170
@simoncosgrove4170 Год назад
Another great honest review Ben !! Thanks
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Thanks Simon! Glad you’re enjoying the channel 😊
@rosewood1
@rosewood1 10 месяцев назад
Pickle certainly loved this car! Loved the squeal! Great review hmm I could be tempted with this!
@saifabdalkader9512
@saifabdalkader9512 Год назад
the seats are beautiful!!
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Something very special about Italian leather 😍
@superwolf6033
@superwolf6033 26 дней назад
I'm Mexican Italian 🇮🇹 and I can tell you that the interiors are inspired by the sound of a violin 🎻 🎶‼️
@benedwards4435
@benedwards4435 Год назад
Glorious sounding thing! Great video Ben, as usual :)
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Thanks man 😊
@RamonGT
@RamonGT 9 месяцев назад
Man I just found your channel and love it 😊 Keep up the good stuff!
@dadcars
@dadcars 9 месяцев назад
Thanks! Glad you found us! So many cool videos to watch already and more to come 😊
@TMKuro
@TMKuro Год назад
Ben, if treated properly, the clutch of the MC gear shift does not need to be replaced more often than a regular clutch of a sporty car: 1. Like with any robotized manual, try to prevent crawling through traffic jams. The clutch remains engaged to roughly 7km/h (under 5 miles/h). That is, if commuting on highways, leave a bit of a gap to the car in front of you to close the gap with over 7 km/h. But then again, such beauties are a waste for commuting in traffic jams anyhow. 2. As per the user's manual, you are not supposed / don't need to lift the throttle for shifting with the MC gearbox. If it is too jerky, just calibrate the clutch yourself (see below). 3. To calibrate the clutch yourself for free in less than 15 seconds, step on the brake and hold it. Turn on the ignition and keep on holding the brake pedal for 10 seconds (do NOT turn on the engine). This makes the clutch sensor measure the clutch wear and recalibrate the clutch. You are welcome!😊 4. Following the procedures above, my Granturismo S with the MC gear box had still 60% of the usable clutch layer left when I sold it with a mileage of 90k km (56k miles). And this despite the fact that I do not know how the previous owner treated the clutch (crawling in traffic jams?). I bought the car with a mileage of 40k km (25k miles).
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
This is interesting! I’ll be seeing my friend with the MC shift GT soon and will discuss 🫡
@peterkaye9995
@peterkaye9995 Год назад
Another brilliant enthusiastic video
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Thanks Peter 🙌😊
@danielporteous7682
@danielporteous7682 Год назад
One of the best things ive found about using a convertible sports car with kids is the fact you can literally just drop them straight in to the seat with the roof down on nice days. I bet you could even get my babyzen pram in that boot (just). What a car. Even the interior cant take away from that noise!!
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
So easy getting them in when the roof is down 😅
@leongiles3496
@leongiles3496 Год назад
Whooaaaaaa!!!! Nice one Ben!!!!
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
I know right! What a car 😎
@guylambrechts2303
@guylambrechts2303 Год назад
With the roof down a cabrio looks good but I don't know one that does with the roof up. New 911 looks even bulky to me with roof up and down. These big Maserati's are a thing of beauty (both GT and cabrio). Thank you both for the entertaining video!
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Thanks Guy :)
@andybroer651
@andybroer651 Год назад
Hi Ben! Andy from California again. Loved your daughter's reaction to the GranCabrio S! Such a darling child and smart too. Your comments on the looks of the GranCabrio S vs GranTurismo coupé S I totally agree with the coupé is a 10/10 and the GranCabrio S is a 9.5/10. The alfresco driving and sound made my choice between the 2 nearly impossible, but depreciation meant I could afford BOTH! Which is what I did. In fact my GranCabrio S is Blue over Parchment with the same amazing 15 spoke Trident wheels like you example in this review. My coupé is Bordeaux over tan. Both 4.7 ZF cars and both under 13k miles. With regard to your question of coupé vs convertible looks, there are few cars I think looks better as a convertible, one is the Jensen Interceptor which I think looks ungainly in coupé form but better as a convertible. Another possible exception is the Triumph TR7/TR8 (the latter my dad owned in coupé form) which I think look better as top down roadsters. IMHO. Love your channel and videos. If you ever get to California, you can take my 2011s (Coupé S and Cabrio S)out for back to back drives if you'd like. Cheers! Wildly under appreciated cars.
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Awesome thanks Andy! A DadCars road trip across California would be amazing!! One day 🤞
@andybroer651
@andybroer651 Год назад
@@dadcars Do it soon, as I plan on retiring to Oahu in 5-7 years time... but you could still borrow my cars there if it comes to that. 🙂 Cheers mate!!
@I_am_Deliverer
@I_am_Deliverer Год назад
Yes for me the original classic Maserati Ghibli Spyder looks better than it’s coupe version. It’s stunning. Love the channel, you really pick the best cars. Also loved your vid on the Porsche Cayenne. Want one of those badly too!
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
That cayenne turbo is glorious! I’d love to get one for my wife 😎
@guylambrechts2303
@guylambrechts2303 Год назад
Only saw the second time round: The little one in the back fell asleep. Great feature of this car!
@phucnguyen0110
@phucnguyen0110 Год назад
Another absolute stunner, Ben!
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
These masers are special aren’t they!
@phucnguyen0110
@phucnguyen0110 Год назад
@@dadcars indeed 😀
@hms9686
@hms9686 9 месяцев назад
Great video. Will definitely check out the GranTurismo review. IMO, I think the Jaguar XK and F-Type look better with the roof down. But, like the Maserati, we are talking 10/10 vs. 9/10 for the coupes. Overall, beautiful cars.
@dadcars
@dadcars 9 месяцев назад
Yeah they do look fantastic although I think I still prefer the lines of the XK coupe!
@stevenfarrington2361
@stevenfarrington2361 Год назад
Hi Ben, JayEmm channel subscriber from New Zealand 🇳🇿 here. As a 51yr old father of five, the youngest of whom is 6, I luv the concept of your channel. 👏 Try the W209 Mercedes Benz CLK in either coupe or convertible. I’ve had one for seven years and it’s excellent as a daily driver dad car in my opinion. Mine is a V6. Keep up the good work 👍
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Welcome to the channel! Glad you found us! Great shout on the merc, there are a few I need to feature 😎
@rnyellow
@rnyellow Год назад
Great car, new to me; great review. Pickle's car-reviewing career is coming on almost as nicely as yours Ben!
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
She’s better than me 🙌😅
@markchip1
@markchip1 Год назад
THAT CLOUD.... above your little one in the back, around the 16-17 minute mark was EVER SO spooky!!!
@reality-cheque
@reality-cheque 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video. I suspect the raised rear centre armrest is covering a structural beam attempting to stiffen the body shell after removing the roof. How was the car for scuttle shake? The DB9 Volante suffers from scuttle shake but the XKR and SL do not.
@LuckySpeaks
@LuckySpeaks 6 месяцев назад
I’ve had a fair few Maseratis, and I have to say, I have not had ANY maintenance issues other than the usual servicing. Admittedly, most were almost new cars or new, but even so, treat them well and in my experience you won’t go far wrong. I have a 488 spyder, and I’d say that and the huracan spyder are two of the best looking cabs out there
@dadcars
@dadcars 6 месяцев назад
Awesome! Yeah cars not being driven and or differed maintenance is the issue with the Maseratis as they get older imo
@sg-hd9fz
@sg-hd9fz 7 месяцев назад
Just discovered your channel Ban & clan 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼 Big love and hugs from an 89 xj40 /9000turbo/Alfa Sportswagon/E55 driving fellow north London spirit in Sydney
@dadcars
@dadcars 7 месяцев назад
🙌😊 awesome glad you found us!
@misterbridger
@misterbridger Год назад
I agree completely about that V8 sound. I never tire of it in my Quattroporte, even here on the narrow roads of the Isle of Wight. Every trip is an event that gets the adrenaline flowing and make me grin. Cars that I think look better as a convertible include the Triumph TR7, the Jaguar XJ-S and the Series 3 E-Type.
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Ah QP on the island! Not far from me 😎 that may well be my next car 😉 great shouts in the convertibles, I love the XJS although don’t you loose the back seats in the convertibles?
@misterbridger
@misterbridger Год назад
@@dadcars Yes, just over the Solent. I used to work in Farlington so recognise many of the local roads you use in tests, especially Portsdown Hill. The QP is very long but otherwise a practical option, and although not as good looking as a GranTurismo it's far from ugly - I still look back at it in a car park. If you buy one I doubt you will be disappointed force money 🙂.
@JonWhitworth
@JonWhitworth Год назад
A wise choice 🤌🏼🤌🏼🇮🇹
@FRFRANKIE
@FRFRANKIE Год назад
Hi Ben and Daughter, hope your doing good. That was a very cool video. I love that color blue on that car. I love the wood steering wheel too. Stay safe and take care.
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Thanks Frank 🙌
@FRFRANKIE
@FRFRANKIE Год назад
@@dadcars Your welcome Ben.
@andybroer651
@andybroer651 Год назад
Already subscribed... best wishes Ben!
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
🫡👏
@saifabdalkader9512
@saifabdalkader9512 Год назад
this engine is something else, it would be interesting comparing it with bmw's s65 sound wise.
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
I can’t wait to feature a E93… 🙌
@thedichoticdilemma8911
@thedichoticdilemma8911 2 месяца назад
Wow brilliant mate. Weldone. The passion is nuts. Were you about to cry there? Hahahaahaha
@dadcars
@dadcars 2 месяца назад
Roof was down, something flew in my eye 🤷‍♂️
@thedichoticdilemma8911
@thedichoticdilemma8911 2 месяца назад
@dadcars 🤣🤣🤣 💯 %. I loved your review man. Proof of concept. Dads who want cool stuff but do it with their kids. Like drive top down in a maserati. All the best with your channel bro. I'm def getting one now thanks to you.
@R-Tap
@R-Tap Год назад
You are right about that sound for 30k. Maybe a CL63 AMG comes somewhere near for not massive money. However, the Masser sings.
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
CL63 is a great shout, can’t wait to feature one 🫡
@zachrenner2794
@zachrenner2794 9 месяцев назад
In the rear armrest is part of the acoustic box for the rear subs and because there is no longer a flip-down armrest. I had to repair the speakers in my '10 Grancabrio.
@dadcars
@dadcars 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for answering this 🙌
@chrispoulos6448
@chrispoulos6448 5 месяцев назад
How did you repair the rear speakers/subwoofers? Mine are blown and removed because I could not find a reasonable replacement. I have a 2012 US model with the two speakers.
@zachrenner2794
@zachrenner2794 5 месяцев назад
@@chrispoulos6448 Yes, the factory glue used to secure the center dome (dust cover) on the speaker separates and can cause the dome to crack. I used a high-quality glue, Rhino Glue, to resecure the dome and repair the crack. The fix has held-up for over two years with no more crackle/buzz sound with the volume up.
@18000rpm
@18000rpm 8 месяцев назад
My guess is the hump between the rear seats is to prevent anyone from sitting in the middle because there is no rollover protection in that area.
@sg-hd9fz
@sg-hd9fz 7 месяцев назад
I just love your inclusion and relationship with your daughter. I have the same with my 4.7y.o. and she loves daddys catcar (the 89 Jag) 🥰
@_JordanM
@_JordanM Год назад
Superb Ben. What a stunning car! I love how much genuine passion you put into these reviews, it’s mind blowing! Made me laugh when you said about EV’s being lifeless 😂
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
This car makes no sense to EV diehards 😅
@trollmanrs
@trollmanrs Год назад
If you look at the back, the GranTurismo looks a lot wider than the Gran Cabrio you lose the massive rear haunches on the GC, maybe this is why the rear seat space looks to be less as you mentioned the rear arm rest which is higher but also looks thinner than the GT. And speaking of cars which look better in cabrio form, the Alfa Romeo 916 Spider looks far nicer than it's GTV equivalent.
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
I think that may be a design trick on the eyes, same with the DB9, the rear shoulders are highlighted by the way the coupe tapers in towards the back. Great shout on the Alfa!
@andybroer651
@andybroer651 Год назад
Sound question: I also have an Abarth500 which sounds epic for a Turbo 4 cylinder less than $30k... but I agree with you the 4.7 V8 sounds the best
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Is your Abarth standard?
@andybroer651
@andybroer651 10 месяцев назад
Not quite :-) Madness500 ECU, turbo blanket, cold air intake front strut brace and power pedal new turbo.@@dadcars
@madcoyote
@madcoyote Год назад
Great contenders in the likes of engine sound...BMW E39 M5 and especially the E60 M5 with the V10. You can find some at the price point of 30k. I don't know how much a used Audi S8 costs of the same era, but it also has a rather nice sounding V8.
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
👍 The E39 we featured sounded amazing but it was modified
@NomadJRG
@NomadJRG Год назад
W204 C63 would be another great pick in the sub £30k or even sub £20k nice sounding car boxes
@DrivenFloored
@DrivenFloored Год назад
so tempting... on the very possible maybe one day ticks lots of boxes sight sound auto drop top list! Is the engine in the Quattroporte the same power / sound?
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Yeah same engine, 4.2 and 4.7… and sounds equally as incredible especially the GTS 😎
@alistairloader03
@alistairloader03 Год назад
I had a ride in that exact car mate, same number plate
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Awesome!!! You know why I was smiling so much then! 😊
@alistairloader03
@alistairloader03 Год назад
Yea you should have a ride in the red one
@alistairloader03
@alistairloader03 Год назад
@@dadcars😂
@Hali88
@Hali88 Год назад
There are lots of drop tops that look as good or better than their coupe siblings with the roof down, but not many that look better with their roofs up
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Yep I agree 👍
@worksofart1983
@worksofart1983 Год назад
I am currently looking for one of this. The 4 real seats is a selling point over other similar cars (like DB9 Volante). How would you rate the sounds of the maserati vs your DB9? Different notes, but Maserati seems more entertaining
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
It’s the sound at low speeds you get from standard on these masers that’s just incredible. I’ve fitted an exhaust switch on my car but under 3k rpm it’s still very understated. You can fix that but requires modification.
@anno20-23
@anno20-23 3 месяца назад
With the Grancabrio being a newer model. Are a lot of the older maserati issues fixed with this model? Or does it have the same issues?
@dadcars
@dadcars 3 месяца назад
People say the never the cars are the better they are but the cab has the added complexity of the roof remember so if reliability is the concern I’d go for the newest Turismo you can afford.
@D-day-1996
@D-day-1996 10 месяцев назад
What a sweet girl she have already a good taste of good cars like Daddy 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽 hahah cool 😊
@dadcars
@dadcars 10 месяцев назад
🙌😊
@user-oz5vj7sn3y
@user-oz5vj7sn3y 5 месяцев назад
2 things. (1) Never say "cheaper," say "less expensive". (2) You Brits still drive on the wrong side. 🎉😂 Excellent Review.
@THEANIMALGUY
@THEANIMALGUY Месяц назад
Very stupid probably impossible idea but can u check a rolls Royce dawn or phantom drophead coupe as well? They seem to be a proper adult sized 4 seat convertibles as well
@dadcars
@dadcars Месяц назад
I hope to yes
@THEANIMALGUY
@THEANIMALGUY Месяц назад
@@dadcars nice
@stomlinson32ify
@stomlinson32ify Год назад
As I’m sure you know, I think you had one? , the Elise looks better without it’s roof.
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Technically all Elise’s are convertibles, although I’ve always thought they look best when the hardtop is in place… makes it hard to get in and out though 😅
@4rzaluz
@4rzaluz 4 месяца назад
Boxster Spyder is the car which looks better than its Cayman counterpart.
@dadcars
@dadcars 4 месяца назад
Great shout
@pharmacells
@pharmacells Год назад
Love the shout out to Sports Italia. Great guys, it's just a shame they aren't the best lookers. (Hi Matt).
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
yet to meet them myself but when I finally get a maser I know where I’ll be taking it 👍
@traynaj
@traynaj Год назад
I’ve always thought that the Porsche 944 cab. looks better than the coupe
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
I’ve always liked the looks of those too actually 😅
@danisantabarbara5931
@danisantabarbara5931 Год назад
Great review, thanks. Not even Alex would dare to wear those shorts, please be serious. #MrNiceLegs
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
These are basically trousers to me! My first ever RU-vid video I was in high cut running shorts where you can see my breakfast 🙈
@ViperWCUEYT
@ViperWCUEYT Год назад
Maserati is definitely a sensation over stats car. And heart over head. The grancab especially so. I looked at a few but couldn’t stomach the maintenance costs. The weight of these cars is unforgivable though it’s over 500kg heavier than a 911 cab!
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
The looks and sound of a 911 aren’t comparable IMO and maintenance on a 996 or 997 can be similar if you’re unlucky 🙈 the 911 will fair much better on a spirited drive though
@ViperWCUEYT
@ViperWCUEYT Год назад
3k worth of maintenance on a 911 you’ll be able to do the full service like all the fluids, water pump and even the dreaded crossover coolant pipes that are difficult to do. With a Maserati, you’ll get a small service and attention on the brakes. There’s a big difference in general running costs.
@Kryojenix
@Kryojenix 3 месяца назад
I find the GranCabrio looks better than the GranTurismo - I wouldn't bother getting the GranTurismo over an E39 M5 or a B7 RS4 wagon. I guess, I'm honestly of the opinion that coupes shouldn't exist - but if the roof comes down, then that's a justification...
@courtroomessentials3544
@courtroomessentials3544 26 дней назад
Cars that look better in convertible form? Boxster over Cayman (come on, ya know it's true), Jaguar E-Type, Elise and MG.
@Landmantx
@Landmantx 7 месяцев назад
I think that the latest Porsche 911 Targa looks better than the coupe.
@saiidstephan3537
@saiidstephan3537 11 месяцев назад
BMW e93 m3
@Lee_Pitcher
@Lee_Pitcher Год назад
Alfa 939 spider looks better than the Brera on which it’s based. Much better in fact
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
That’s a grout shout! 👏
@user-pd5pw4xv9w
@user-pd5pw4xv9w 3 месяца назад
Boxster is a better looking car than a Cayman.
@dadcars
@dadcars 3 месяца назад
🤙😎
@sainta2667
@sainta2667 5 месяцев назад
The Grancabrio is way better looking the the Granturismo .
@rcnmoto1548
@rcnmoto1548 Год назад
I can`t think of ANY car that looks better in convertible then coupe. I can think of dozens that look better with the roof down. And also dozens that look better with a hard top fitted (the E46 M3 for example)
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Yeah that’s the real tricky one… a convertible with the roof up almost always looks awkward
@robertlloyd7493
@robertlloyd7493 Год назад
😅
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
🫡
@andrejosbandrejos
@andrejosbandrejos 2 месяца назад
Cobra 427
@andrejosbandrejos
@andrejosbandrejos 2 месяца назад
Cobra looks better in cabrio,but doesn't sound as good as maserati(not even close)
@maticsorn2784
@maticsorn2784 Год назад
audi r8 i think looks better topless and gallardo too
@JonWhitworth
@JonWhitworth Год назад
But they’re not comparable in any way. The MC20 Cielo is a beautiful car, but none of them are proper DadCars
@maticsorn2784
@maticsorn2784 Год назад
@@JonWhitworth i agree but it is prettier... Alex from autoalex said that all 4 seat convertibles looks like a bathtub on wheels .. which is kinda true haha.. i have a4 convertible and it is like that
@dadcars
@dadcars Год назад
Saloons in particular do look like rolling bathtubs 😅 nothing like a convertible on a sunny day though 😎 funnily enough Alex also made this feelings clear about Maseratis in our video too 🙈
@modellbobby
@modellbobby 5 месяцев назад
Hilarious. Why should you want to put a buggy in there. Use the Land Rover
@beagleman123456789
@beagleman123456789 11 месяцев назад
2013 Audi RS5 ‘ sounds better with 455 hp. Quattro all wheel 🛞 drive
@dadcars
@dadcars 11 месяцев назад
Ooooo… I’ll have to test that myself to be sure!
@MadeinItaly-Maserati
@MadeinItaly-Maserati 6 месяцев назад
🔱❤️🇮🇹🤌🏿
@markh5420
@markh5420 Месяц назад
R8 looks better in convertible
@dadcars
@dadcars Месяц назад
That’s a hot take… I could see a debate on this though 😅
@johnzero8923
@johnzero8923 10 месяцев назад
Audi A4 looks better as a convertible.
@dadcars
@dadcars 10 месяцев назад
Does it with the roof up though? 🤔
@johnzero8923
@johnzero8923 10 месяцев назад
@@dadcars in most colours, I would say, probably not, I was going by my own car, which is in cosmic yellow ( gold )with a black roof. My own dadcar, enjoying your channel. Keep up the good work., best regards
@Roland-rv9cw
@Roland-rv9cw 10 месяцев назад
Here in Canada ONLY $ 19,000. Canadian in the USA starting $ 6,000. USD. Because there so frickin expensive in PART'S & SERVICING... Shock no bushing each $ 2 k USD 😮 each Catalytic converter $ 13 K God junk the thing...😅
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