I really enjoy watching all of your videos & like seeing all of the toys you have in that big toy box you said you have. Like others have stated on here I don't believe I have seen a tractor on a lift before having a oil change. Just never know what one will see in Dennis's bag of tricks! LoL Really like your channel a lot! Thanks for sharing take care till the next one.
Thanks for this informative video. All the computer stuff and DEF just makes me feel a little better about working on my OLD equipment. The thing that makes my tractors run at 1800 rpm after servicing is me. I am happy for you with your new tractor.
Glad to see you doing videos on these tractors! I think they were a tremendous step in the right direction for Massey. Unfortunately there is just about no dealer support around here for Agco anymore. Look forward to seeing more, thanks!
Love your videos even my wife likes watching!..... I was just wanting a little more info on the motor oil you use?? Oh yeah I've never seen a tractor on a 4 post lift before!!
"It should lift this tractor up... we're about to find out " 😂 that's my kinda thinking! Your making me feel better about having a 30 yr old tractor now, especially with the annoying bits we've had with our T5 😞
I really appreciate how thorough you are with your equipment. We are the same way with everything. We even check our trailer tires daily to fluids in the smallest equipment before we roll out that day. I hope y'all get that DEF stuff figured out. That has to be confusing at times.
Interesting stuff Mr. Dennis ! I thank you for sharing ! I have a hill that I like to check pull speeds at also ! It's strange at some of the habits we pick up in our lifetime ! By the way the fastest I ever topped the hill was on a Massey 451 with a Perkins 4 cylinder. The older Perkins with that long stroke sure did have the torque ! You be safe my friend and God bless you and your family !!!!! Eddy
Ray Eddy I know someone that has a Massey Ferguson 451 Perkins engine and he uses it to bale hay pulling a 4x5 Massey Ferguson round roller baler, he probably has over 9,000 hrs on it . Plus he mows all his hay with it . He bales about 9 hundred a year round baling. And about 1,500 square bales a year.
I was just curious on the oil capacity, so I did a Bing search. I found the specs, but none showed the oil capacity. I typed in "Massey Ferguson 4710 Specs" and hit enter. What I thought was cool, third down on the page was a picture of you and this video. Just thought I would share that with you. Stay safe!
I must admit too,..I have never seen a tractor put on a lift for this maintenance before. Heck, I've never seen on a lift for ANY reason,..but I have to admit, it sure make's it good to watch what you're doing here. This was interesting, thanks.
According to my quick internet search DEF is suppose to be only 2-3% not 10% ratio to diesel used .... you will need to get that fixed/changed make sure they (the dealer) knows what they are talking about .... Love the videos!!!
I can see it using 10% if it was to ReGen to clean the particulate filter ... but your Massey does not have one... at 10% I could only guess your exhaust would smell to high heaven of Urea all the time ..... my Diesel stinks like that when it does the ReGeneration mode ... other thing is according to Massey own adds it only uses DEF fluid under heavy loads because that is the only time it produces Nox gasses .. that is also why u don’t have need of a particulate filter ... according to their adds on their website... I hope the DEF gauge is messed up and not showing you the right readings and nothing more Great videos keep them coming
Makes you kinda miss those old, fully analog tractors! Computers & electronics are great when they work, but a real pain in the backside when they don't
When you were pumping that oil in, I was thinking to myself I hope Dennis didn't do what I did the first time I changed the oil on dad's tractor and forget to put the doggon drain plugs back in it. Was so proud of my self (at 13) right up until I fired it up and the oil light wouldn't go out. Fortunately I cut it off right quick and must not have done much damage, because it lasted us a good few years longer. Heck, the engine on that old thing was about all that was right with it by the time we scrapped it.
As long as that doc doesn't accumulate hay chaff on it, we pulled the plastic cover off a new Holland scr muffler and it had burnt hay sitting on the pipe that came from the turbo!
Very interesting video Dennis,I was very concerned about how close you were to maxing out the lift weight-wise,I thought for certain that tractor weight more then 12,000 pounds,but I bet it was very close to the 11,000 pound limit. When I changed out my oil,I used Amsoils flush and I let it sit for about a whole day to let it drain,then I installed a Amsoil oil filter and 0W-40 Diesel oil and have been saving about a half-a-gallon of diesel fuel per operating hour at full load,full throttle and WILL NOT VOID YOUR FACTORY WARRANTY(S).
DLH Farms I wouldn't use it otherwise,oh yeah!!. I've been selling this product since 1999 and I've never had any complaints with the exception of one.It takes longer to warm up the engine in the winter time,because it cuts friction on average of 40%-50% over our nearest competitor.(Mobile-1(one)) Mobile-one is rated number two out of every brand of oil on the market.Amsoil is equivelant to wet ice on wet ice.(slickest surface in the world)
Nice video. Funny that me being a mechanic on heavy equipment for 34 years still enjoyed watching you change oil in your tractor. I have a few questions...my tractor is a Massey Ferguson 4707 I got after seeing your videos. I've had that 'grainy' feel in my steering too. I'll ask the dealer about it. The other comment/question has to do with the radio. It is a factory radio, it doesn't keep the time right. Every time I start the tractor, the time on the radio resets to 1:00 - the memory isn't kept. Is yours that way? I guess you are still pleased with your Massey?
No I'm not having any trouble with the radio, sounds like the memory wire to the radio isn't hooked up. The radio has to have two power wires one is turned on and off with the key and one stays on all the time to keep the memory alive. The dealer has to install the radio and I bet they wired it wrong. Yes I'm very happy with this tractor. I seem to run it more than any of the others.
Really appreciate these maintenance videos. Any chance you tackled the hydraulic fluid change on your 4710? I have a 4707 coming due so was hoping to see how it was done. Thanks
My MF 6616 seems to have that "notchy" feeling to the steering as well, it's quite annoying. Sometimes when I'm running my hay grapple, it wont even move the wheels anymore. I'm going to have to look into the hydrostatic unit you mentioned.
Before they replaced the part on yours, was it "notchy" all the time, or just when you had a heavy load on the loader? Mine seems to be much more apparent when i've got the grapple on and loaded up with hay.
DLH Farms shoot I can imagine! I have to replace my starter and fuel pump on my 98 gmc an it would be very handy to have! Eventually I’m gonna get one though
Make sure you lift the weight off the front axle and grease it again to get grease under the king pin, my dad used to make me do that on our tractors, nice work Dennis!
I have been enjoying your videos on the 4710. I just got a 4709 and I had a question on your front fenders...do they hit the loader frame when you turn? I had them installed on mine and they hit on both sides when I turn...for the drivers it hits kind of in front of the fuel tank. I realize the fenders are spring loaded to allow for movement, but was just curious if yours hit like that. Thanks in advance for any insight on this.
Sounds like it’s out of adjustment. Mine don’t hit anything when I turn the fenders barley move in towards the hood. It takes some fiddling to get it to work right. Mine has hit the fuel tank guard in certain situations.
I sure like that 4710, it has some things that I like better than my Kubota but some things on the K I like better than the 4710. I have the same amount of hours on my new Kubota M7060 and I have not been able to find even one small issue anywhere and I am very picky.
Dennis, do you feel that the ViseoRoof and air ride seat upgrades are worth the extra cost. I’m considering a new 4707 4WD w931x that will be used for hay production in the summer months, feeding hay in the winter months, and a little plowing and harrowing here and there.
Looking to get a new tractor. Currently have a 2014 kioti dk90 with loader and looking at Holland or Massey. Want to stay in that 90hp range. Recommendations use for hunting land work. All are to nice these days to pick from
On-Highway trucks use 2-4% DEF to Fuel but these are all equipped with EGR and DPFs. The higher the engine out Nox emissions the more DEF that is needed for the SCR to clean it up. The higher the engine out Nox the lower the soot in the exhaust so some manufacturers do this so a DPF is not needed. So you may be trading having no DPF for higher DEF consumption.
Your probably right but my NH T5 uses very little DEF and it has the same system as the Massey with no DPF but i know NH is at the top of the food chain when it comes to emissions since even JD is useing some of FPT engines to meet emissions.
Well I wish my 5075E used a FPT engine if that would keep me from having to use a DPF even though I'm not a fan of Fiat. Even Mahindra doesn't use a DPF, or atleast some of their tractors don't. It's funny people put JD and Kumoda... I mean Kubota on this pedestal, but the two brand that many people consider the best have the worst emissions of any tractor companies on them. I will say that overall I've been extremely happy with my 5075E the 5 months or so I've had it. It's done everything I've asked it to and not given me any issues other than being a little thirsty for diesel and I don't like having to regen. Don't the new Zetors ( at least the Zetor Major 80)that sell over here still come with Tier3 motors instead of Tier4? Something to do with not selling enough tractor over here to require having to develop Tier4 motors for this market?
My boss has a air fitting by oilfilter that blows all the oild out of filter and he has a electric pump that pumps the oil out of the motor for both his 324d with limberhead on it and my 525c skidder. That makes it almost impossible to make a mess
Ya at 50hrs I changed engine oil my dealer recommended it doesn't say in book though and changed hydraulic filter which your supposed to at 50hrs and your also supposed to change shuttle shift hydraulic filter but cant get to it because its above the big muffler ,,lol just under the floor board bad design I guess by massy anyway good video....
I read about those in my manual too, however neither dealer in southeast Oklahoma could even tell me what filters to buy. Was the shuttle filter pretty pricey like $100 plus? I have a 4709 open station and have been impressed with performance vs cost but dealer support around here is sad.
Hey how are you still liking it? I saw a comment about 6 months ago you’re at 1100hrs. I wish I had my steering and rear 3 point looked at.. the dealer wasn’t great & stopped at some point even selling MF. The 3 point/draft control drives me crazy depending what I’m using it for. Does it still work better since that first update? My 20yr old kioti is 100x’s better..you barely bump the lever, it barely moves it.
Yeah it’s a good tractor. Sounds like you got your draft control knob turned the wrong way I think you have to turn it all the way to the left away from the plow symbol. It’d that doesn’t fix it , it may need to be calibrated. You should be able to fine control it.
J Pratt I have a 4709 and i think mine uses to much def also and it doesnt seem like it has the hp its rated to have . sent it back to dealer and they ran it on the dyno and said its putting out rated hp . i have a 492 also and while running the baler i dont have to shift gears while going up hill unlike the 4709 it runs out of power
So your saying the engines out of the AGCO factory are derated and not a true HP rating? I wonder if the dealers would turn them up to full torque & HP before they leave the dealer, kinda like a semi motor or that would void your warranty. Also, I would love to see the heat reading of the dpf filter when it’s running full throttle. I would imagine the EGT temps are off the chart. Nice videos as always
Nice video! Have you ever heard of, or done business with a company called Auto Express? (they are in Rich Creek) I am looking at a dump truck there, and just trying to find out info about the reputation of the company before I buy.
It didn't have computer trouble, the dealer was updating the computer in the tractor as part of a service bulletin and his computer failed and caused the computer in the tractor to erase. They fixed it the next day after he bought a new laptop and came back.
If you dont know what def is .......RUN! Its just a way that government mandated emmisions to create more problems to need a tec for and spend more money.
i usually put the hours i changed the filter on the new filter with a black marker my small Pea brain will forget..... o mam that was a list of things needed to be fixed hope this isn't a bad sign
Actually it's doing really good compared to other tractors I've bought. Everything that's been wrong with it has been nit picky stuff that most people wouldn't even notice. It's never left me stranded.
Screw that emissions crap, on a ford 6.7 it’s totally worth taking off the $9k in emission components and replacing it with a straight pipe from the turbo back, especially if your out of warranty and your state and local authorities don’t care. Save a ton of money not buying DEF
I did change the filter. There was like 5 minutes of the video of me taking the old one off and putting the new one back on. I even showed the part number and everything. You must have fallen asleep.
