Massive Chosin Reservoir Wargame 

Pleasure to meet both you and your son at the museum Chris!

@@LittleWarsTV I've got a question, so, im really interested in starting my own wargame, so when i saw the link of which leads to the pendraken site it seems that your minfigures are grouped together to show units, but those i find are individual soldiers, standing alone on a small platform, did you guys make some special arrangement to get those or did you do something else? Thank you.

@@TheDaneViking I believe they made them themselves

@@TheDaneViking In wargaming these are called bases. Most miniatures are mounted on their own cast on base, but they really aren't that good for gaming as they tend to be very small while the miniature itself, especially in the larger scales, are over balanced or top heavy. That means that they are very easy to knock over, so wargamers tend to mount miniatures to another, larger, base. Frequently they are called "stands" because that's what they do- help the figure to stand. In smaller scales, like 15mm, 10mm, 6mm, and even 2/3mm (!) they are essential because they are so small and fiddly to pick up and move (good luck moving a 3mm infantryman!). Better still, you can mount several figures to that stand and create a miniature diorama which turns a handful of indiviual figures into a military unit like a team, squad, or an even larger tactical grouping. LWTv mentioned that their stands were company scale, so each stand with handful of individuals soldiers represent a company of actual troops- say 60 to 200 or so men (depending on how depleted they are) and several armored fighting vehicles. That allows you to take say 30 10mm models, put them on several stands, and call them a battalion. As for getting these stands, you can fashion them yourself out of cardboard, plastic card, or another stiff material, or you can purchase them from another company. Gale Force 9 sells quite a range of these for reasonable prices. www.flamesofwar.com/gf9online_store.aspx?CategoryID=13836 More often or not commercial wargames will tell you how you should base your armies. Major miniature lines will even include those bases with the miniatures (like say Games Workshop). Typically you paint up the models on their own and then you glue them down onto the base. Then you decorate the base with small stones/pebbles, flocking, and even other small models. If you put a some time and effort into it you'll wind up with rather impressive results!

Nah man Ed coming back to read commie quotes was the best.

Chinese civil war or Second Sino Japanese War war game?

Oh, was it Ed?

​@@brooksriley9659I would love a second or third battle of Changsha.

The quotes are the best part 😂

Wow! Those guys had a very tough fight at Chosin, largely isolated on the eastern side.

Pro Patria Chosin Reservoir is a long way away from the tropical climate it spent most of its interwar years. Makes me wonder if Little Wars will do a table top of another battle the regiment fought in, that being the Battle of Bataan?

They refuse to surrender and refused to die!

@@LittleWarsTV The most forgotten battle of the Forgotten War. The 31st's stand and destruction took a lot of pressure off of the USMC and helped them to escape.

Damn, high praise from him! The accounts from Chosin are pretty harrowing. As many men died from the cold as the battle!

Having listened to "Last Stand of Fox Company" by Bob Drury & Tom Clavin, and The Frozen Hours" by Jeff Shaara I can understand why he considered the Chosin the Marines' "Greatest hour." Also, as a native of South Dakota, I can appreciate the cold he went through. At least with me, no matter how cold I get, I can still go inside after chores, get a hot shower, and stand in front of the corn stove.

That's a great idea........or even with schools!

@@chrisc.2591 When one of my wargaming buddies was going to college at USC in Columbia, S.C., He started a club, and they played the Napoleonic board game "Empire in Arms" on a weekly basis. Another one of my wargaming friends runs a hobby shop and he hosts a weekly game of "World in Flames" at his house. Board wargaming is a great way to introduce people who love military history to the wargaming community and then graduate them into miniatures. 😛

Thank you Pepe! It was an honor and a thrill to play this at the museum.

Our collective hats are off to your father today, sir.

@@LittleWarsTV I have two great aunts who were nurses in the PLA in Korea.

Love that story. They tell it well at the museum! One of the displays has some Tootsie Roll wrappers on the ground near the feet of a Marine

Love chatting with new folks about the hobby. It’s always fun to show them a great table and see the reactions from folks who have never even heard of Wargaming or seen it in person

We did talk about the Brits in relation to TF Drysdale! And obviously the Army was a big part of the game. But as much as this is called a United Nations command, the Marines were the vast majority of the combat troops engaged that first week.

I must have missed that somehow. I'll watch again and see what I missed, thanks for the correction!

@@LittleWarsTV I should clarify - I heard them mentioned in the actual game, obviously. No idea how I missed your historian talking about them before that. Must pay better attention next time 🤣🤦🏿‍♂️

That TF Drysdale made it at all to Hagaru-ri is a battle in of itself up Hellfire Valley - it had been split into two and half of the force smashed. Brutal stuff.

I did hear that 41 ("Four-One") Commando Royal Marines, was mentioned as part of TF DRYSDALE. There are still images of the men deployed in that conflct in the HQ of the Commando Training Centre (Royal Marines) which I walked past daily when working there during a number of appointments. An interesting fact was that they deployed so quickly, many straight from leave they arrived with little or no equipment and hence were fully re-equipped from US stock - apart from the Commando Berets which the men took with them everywhere they went. Another interesting fact is the presence of a Turkish Brigade of 5000 men attached to US forces: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Brigade. This war was truly a United Nations effort of 22 participants.

Love the figures Leon!

Wow, that's quite the family story. Incredible 41 Commando and TF Drysdale saw some nasty action in this battle. The photos of the mountain road they had to fight their way up are just daunting to look at

@@LittleWarsTVThank you. I love your content! I was wondering if you have ever considered doing a wargame of the Battle of the Imjin River? I think it has the potential to be an interesting wargame as well as shining further light on the Korean War.

Albert I have recreated the battle of the River Imjin. The custom board I built is now at the Soldiers of Gloucestershire Museum. If you Google it I’m sure you’ll be able to find pictures. I’ve refought the battle a number of times and the Glosters hold out until their ammo runs out every time.

You almost never see Korea on the table in any scale. At least, not at US shows or conventions.

@@LittleWarsTV why do you think that is?

@@rustyjones2517it get overshadowed by WW2 and Vietnam

Very intentional, yes! This is a period of history that is criminally underserved, not just in wargaming, but more broadly as well.

@@LittleWarsTV It is sadly forgotten. I would love it if a movie, (or better yet a tv mini series), were made on Jeff Shaara's book "The Frozen Hours."

You should check out "Last Stand of Fox Company" by Bob Drury & Tom Clavin. Fantastic book! 250 Marines vs. a Chinese division. Also, check out Jeff Shaara's historical novel "The Frozen Hours" One his best books.

I’ve read that book too! Would heartily recommend it.

It's a war that still affects the UK. I've been to the UN Cemetery in Busan and most of the soldiers there are Commonwealth (most US were brought back to the US post war), and we have a handful of British soldiers stationed here at Humphreys in Korea.

The Chinese were about 4 companies away from eliminating the 5th Marine Regiment. They almost pulled this one off.

That is largely due to filming circumstances. Loud public spaces like a museum are really bad for audio. Most of what we filmed was not useable due to echo and crowd noise. Likewise, even our big club games can be hard for audio just due to the number of players.

@@LittleWarsTV ah, that's understandable. Y'all really have been pulling out some show stoppers in terms of size!

When we planned this episode, we considered just gaming TF Drysdale as the action. That was an angle we talked about. Such an incredible story

Well said, Eric. Today is a day to remember them all.

Gotta love the song!!

See you in July, Andrew!

Pretty cool how they intentionally make that gallery cold by pumping the AC!

Shout out to the 31st Infantry Regiment! Go Polar Bears! Such a cool regimental insignia. They have a storied history dating back to WW1.

Thanks Pete!

They are made with clump foliage, spray painted black, drybrushed gray!

The beta version will be out tomorrow for patrons to try!

@@LittleWarsTV Thx, I've bought several of ur rulesets and like their style. However I'm not a patron so I guess I can wait😊

Haha you heard Lucille bark! Good catch.

Thanks Jared!

Rules post to Patreon tomorrow AM!

They call it the Forgotten War for a reason!

@LittleWarsTV I remember learning a bit about it during high school. But it was very brief.