Massive Home Cinema Speaker Upgrade - Monitor Audio Bronze 6G (Bronze 50, Bronze C150, Bronze FX)

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In this video we take a look at the new speakers I have bought for my home cinema setup - The Monitor Audio Bronze 6G series, in particular, the Bronze 50, Bronze C150 and Bronze FX.
B-Tech BT77 Wall Bracket (Affiliate): amzn.to/2IAeqXL
Monitor Audio Bronze 50: www.richersounds.com/monitor-...
Monitor Audio Bronze C150: www.richersounds.com/monitor-...
Monitor Audio Bronze FX: www.richersounds.com/monitor-...
Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
03:28 - Bronze 50 Unboxing/Tour
13:08 - Bronze C150 Unboxing/Tour
18:23 - Bronze FX Unboxing/Tour
27:12 - Installation Tour
27:34 - Bronze 50 Installation
29:49 - Bronze C150 Installation
31:20 - Bronze FX Installation
37:49 - Sound Quality Impressions
41:57 - Conclusion
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@lewisgault1555 3 года назад

I’ve been binge watching your videos better than any other tech tuber in my opinion

@bf0189 3 года назад

Very smart setup! Surrounds are way more sleek than my Axiom surrounds. Mounting engineering is serious and you did fantastic. I might have to copy it for future projects hahaha....also had to use bare wires in my surrounds. Couldn't agree more about the crossover advice too! Always set it to small unless you have large floor standing speakers.

@ricardo34979 3 года назад

Nice, I have a pair of the MA silver 1’s paired with an old wharfedale SW150 sub as a 2.1 setup. Definitely found the sub is almost redundant after I moved to the 1’s & half chose the speakers for how great they look!

@Lostinspace1983 3 года назад

Very smart. They really complement the new sub aesthetically too. 👍🏻

@Exploited89 3 года назад

Great job and great setup!

@truecauseofchaos 3 года назад

Ha I have the BK XLS200 and the previous Bronze speakers in 5.1 (Bronze 6 / Centre / Bronze 2). Getting the Bronze AMS Atmos speakers next month!

@DoogieLabs 3 года назад

Your wall mounting system is great. This is one of those scenarios where if a nut existed that used the m3 hole but had a larger hex size would be helpful. Then you could get a wrench in there and use the nut to help cinch up spring toggle against the inside of the wall. Though it looks like using pliers worked no problem. It is a shame those speakers didn't have the same magnetic grills on the satellite speakers. Though in your situation it might just save you from inadvertent damage to the driver should it get bumped in a high traffic area. All in all looks great.

@narkeddiver7325 3 года назад

Wish I could do as good a job as you in hiding the wire in the wall but over here the interior walls are typically brick coated in plaster so I’d have to cut channels in the wall and replanted and repaint which has a very low WAF - in the meantime I’ve had to use exterior ducting which I don’t really like

@stephenr6427 Год назад

Ive just brought the 200 and they sound amazing

@andljoy 3 года назад

My Rode mic boom arm uses that thread too , lots of legacy stuff in auto me thinks .

@includenull 3 года назад

Spring toggles are great, but those style are not really reusable as you often lose the back inside the wall when you unscrew. Instead I''ve more recently been using snap toggles which secure the toggle in place so you can take things down and back up without loosing the toggle.

@richsmif 3 года назад

Would of been nice to hear it working. I know its subjective due to my own speakers but psychologically nice to hear it working

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

Yeah, I did try to record a comparison against my old speakers but the microphone just picked up so much of the room acoustics I couldn't really do them justice unfortunately.

@Raelrigs 3 года назад

I was always taught that the speaker grills are to to protect the driver from dust and dirt (and kids fingers) and they should be removed for use and replaced when not in use.

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

They aren't really designed to be removed and replaced regularly, the covers themselves are essentially acoustically transparent. It's really just down to preference from an appearance and protection perspective.

@Raelrigs 3 года назад

@@camerongray1515 I have to agree, I do like mine with the grills off, but have gotten used to covering them up when not in use, I also have the FX speakers, the sound from them is superb, if your amp/ receiver is capable of 7.1 or 7.2 you should defiantly have a second set of the FX speakers for the left mid and right mid position. The sound that envelops you in this configuration is just mind blowing, you would need to set them in dipole and swap the left and rights around for the best config but very defiantly worth it. My favourite movie to watch and test surround sound has to be original Jurassic Park, it’s only encoded in 5.1 but my receiver compensates for the 2 missing channels and it sounds fantastic.

@Houndog545 6 месяцев назад

What size spring toggles did you use please?

@JacobKelly02 3 года назад

All my Wharfedale diamond speakers also use a camera screw thread for mounting, also some cheap install speakers I have also do

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

Interesting, must be fairly common then, my old Mordaunt Short ones used M6 screws.

@UpgradingAsUsual 3 года назад

I bought the same set but two pairs of the 50's - one for front and one for rears. 5.2 setup in all. One Klipsch R-12SW in the left rear corner and one BK Monolith Plus in the right rear corner. Both subs are controlled by a Minidsp 2x4 going into the Denon x3300W (soon to be upgraded to the Denon x3700H). I have however, crossed over all the speakers at 80hz. The crossover is very room dependant so if 60hz works for you, go for it. I would recommend two larger subs for a room like yours even though I'm not sure of the exact dimensions but it looks spacious. Love the look of your setup and I agree, they sound amazing.

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

Sounds awesome! I briefly thought about two subs but the room probably looks bigger on camera due to the wide lens than it really is, it's probably only around 4.5x4m or so then being in a flat there's a limit to how much bass I can reasonably have so I tend to keep the sub pretty low.

@klauspeterpeter8278 5 месяцев назад

Hi...is c150 good...and how it is with fx in bipol.

@Jim-es8cc 3 года назад

Just had to check my playback setting if it was accidentaly set to 1.25 ... For the rest, nice video!

@aaron6091 Год назад

Would it be worth getting the silver c150 with bronze 50s, since the silver c150 is 2.5 way compared to the bronze c150 which is only 2 way?

@faithless8888 3 года назад

Hey Cameron! Really great video and very nice setup! But I do believe your receiver is capable of bi-wiring. You should check your settings and look for the option, to adjust the task of each amplifier. You can find that in the audio section of your receiver. You should be able to change the channels, which you would use for the Dolby Atmos channels, and change them to use those as extra ouputs in a bi-wiring configuration. But that is offcourse, if you would like to use that feature. You’ve allready installed brackets, for the speakers in the walls, but not with the extra cables in mind for a bi-wiring setup. But anyway, I just wanted to let you know, your receiver probably could do bi-wiring. Greetings. 🙂

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

It definitely is capable although as you said, I simply don't have the wiring in place to do it and don't feel like it would be a good enough improvement to be worth the effort of running more cable.

@altypeRR 3 года назад

Love the new speakers. Do you have a link to the front speaker brackets? I’m currently trying to find some for mine and all I’ve found so far are either really expensive or the base is just 2 screws into the wall

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

They're the B-Tech BT77, there's links in the description

@williamkatzners 3 года назад

I also got myself the Bronze 200s and the 50s in the back (as there was a window behind me and no space to mount the FX). I'm really pleased with the 200s, they sound amazing, but now I need a new sub. The old sub is an B&W ASW610 (non XP) but I'm not sure if the BK Elec XLS200 are that big of an upgrade. I would love to go with the BK Elec P12-300SB-PR but I don't really have the additional space for it.

@johnbancroft5242 2 года назад

Try an SVS PB1000. I have two of them, they get low. only £450 each in the UK.

@princey4193 3 года назад

First of very nice Video! I have never seen bookshelf speakers fits so perfectly on a wall! I am also looking for new speakers and i am about to decide between the Audio Master Bronze, q acoustics 3000i series and Dali oberen series. What made you purchase the MA 50 bookshelf instead of the MA 200 floorstanding speakers for the front? And did you consider the MA W10 Subwoofer before? Best regards.

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

I went for the 50s mostly just from a neatness perspective since I could wall mount them rather than have them take up floor space, felt they'd look better in the room since it needs to function as a living room beyond just being a "home cinema". I did condition the W10 sub but ended up going for the BK due to the price as it was twice the price of the BK and apart from potentially looking nicer, it didn't seem much better on paper performance wise.

@djFELIXmne 6 месяцев назад

Hello. Great video, I've watched it several times since I too bought the whole MA bronze 200 5.1 set, having it installed sometime next month. I have a question. I can't figure out where you placed the FX speakers, on side walls or on the back wall? I've already prepared the inwall tubes on my side walls, since I read in the MA brochure it's one of the two possible placements. this way they will be about 170cm from the MLP, with only around 50cm from the back wall (which has the window in the middle). I do plan to add 2 height speakers then 2 more in the future. and one more question, almost related. 🙂since I'm still looking for the right AVR to match my MA speakers, I'm torn between denon avc x3800h and onkyo tx nr7100, any thoughts on which one is better? thanks in advance.

@kevmarkwell5713 Год назад

hiya, great video, question on the FX surrounds, did you mount them on the back wall or on the side walls? which was better? or does it not matter?

@camerongray1515 Год назад

For a 5.1 system you'd generally want the rear speakers to be either side of the listener, maybe very slightly behind them but not by much. You'd only really put something actually on the rear wall with a 7.1 system where you'd have the regular surrounds on the side walls the rear surrounds on the wall behind the listener.

@reecehanson3952 3 года назад

Did you look at Q Acoustic 3020i, 3090Ci, I'm trying to decide between Monitor Audio Bronze and Q Acoustics. Thanks!

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

I've heard speakers from Q Acoustics before and they sound really good. I didn't really consider them here however due to the lack of specifically designed surround speakers in that range (I'd have had to use bookshelf speakers as my surround channel)

@richsmif 3 года назад

Ive got q acoustics and there not a touch on my monitor audio radius.

@AryanSingh2512. Год назад

How to connect all of them together? Do you need extra device to connect all of them together?

@camerongray1515 Год назад

These are just passive speakers, you would need to use some sort of amplifier or AV receiver to drive them. I'm using a Denon AVR-X2400H

@jasonthrowaway7386 Год назад

link for the cabinet your amp sits in, also what bronze 50 wall mounts did you use? amazing set up bro, looking to get a similar one

@camerongray1515 Год назад

The cabinet is an IKEA BESTA, I made a video about it here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_EAEddqyQFs.html. It was fine but I ended up replacing it with an IKEA FJÄLLBO which I much prefer the look of (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eJO6HIaOYTg.html ). The speaker brackets are the B-Tech BT77, think I got them from Amazon.

@SirQuacksalotthe1st 10 месяцев назад

A very nice setup but dam does it over shadow your TV looks kinda tinny in the middle there haha

@JasonSturgess 3 года назад

Are you happy with the setup ? Also where did you get the centre and wall brackets from ?

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

Absolutely love it, can't fault it at all! The wall brackets were just from Amazon - "B-Tech brand"

@nobicubalibre2143 2 года назад

Why didn’t you place the main speakers on speaker Stands ? would gave you better imaging and bass response

@camerongray1515 2 года назад

In that case I'd have gone for floor standing speakers, I simply didn't want to dedicate the floor space to them.

@stacypeacock70 3 года назад

Good setup mate. I’m adding the bipoles to my ht setup soon

@stacypeacock70 3 года назад

Why didn’t you get floorstanders for the front?

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

Mostly down to the size, the Bronze 50s are already as big as I'd get away with without it dominating the room, I think floorstanders would just look far too imposing in my particular room

@stacypeacock70 3 года назад

@@camerongray1515 what do the bipoles sound like as I’m getting some at the end of the month.

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

Hard to describe over text other than they sound fine, definitely a bit "wider" and harder to pinpoint than a monopole speaker.

@alexius984 2 года назад

for the rear surround a normal speaker is not recommended, while for the lateral surround better the fx (dipole or bipole)?

@camerongray1515 2 года назад

A regular speaker will work fine but the speakers I used provide a dispersion pattern that's better suited for surround speakers - it's a bit wider so the sound doesn't sound as directional.

@alexius984 2 года назад

@@camerongray1515 but in a 7.1 system for the surround what Is better..Normal speaker or dipole

@camerongray1515 2 года назад

In that sort of setting I honestly don't know unfortunately, haven't really ever researched 7.1 systems

@SpeedDemon82 4 месяца назад

Is that a tv or tablet?

@marcinlegacy9660 2 года назад

Hello, what cable (model, company) U used with this speakers?

@camerongray1515 2 года назад

It's just basic bulk speaker wire from Screwfix running through the walls that I installed back in 2017 for my previous speakers. Pure copper but nothing more special than that. If I was running it again I'd consider something a bit better (but not something outrageously expensive) but it does the job fine.

@marcinlegacy9660 2 года назад

@@camerongray1515ok, thank You for answer.

@thomasuebel891 3 года назад

Hello I like the setup very much! Which Av receiver have you connected to it?

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

I'm using a Denon AVR-X2400H

@derekgrimes6544 3 года назад

@@camerongray1515 Hi and thanks for your vids Cameron :) I just subscribed and am hoping to slowly get a general home entertainment thingy together bit by bit. why did you go with the Denon AVR-X2400H.. ? I was thinking of using the Sony STR-DN1080 but I donßt really know squat and it´s for my small apartment so would play music and other stuff too. Have a grand weekend and all the best from south of France

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

@@derekgrimes6544 I went for the Denon really just because it was a well reviewed model that met my requirements (4k support, Atmos support for future potential, 2 HDMI outputs, front HDMI input). I ended up going to a specialist HiFi/Home Cinema store to also ask for advice - unlike many electronics stores, their staff actually know what they're talking about and don't try to upsell stuff!

@derekgrimes6544 3 года назад

@@camerongray1515 thanks for taking the time to reply in such detail Cameron, enjoy your weekend if poss´

@dangerousmythbuster 3 года назад

Your TV looks too small for that wall. Maybe the next upgrade should be a larger TV?

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

It could be larger for sure but at 49" it's not too small either. It's a wide wall at around 4m and I'm recording with a fairly wide angle lens which makes it look a lot smaller, I'm only sitting around 2m from the screen. I'll probably go a bit larger when I replace it in the future but at only 3 years old, I'm not planning on replacing it in the near future, will probably wait for even more affordable OLED.

@JessicaFEREM 3 года назад

@@camerongray1515 oh wow i have a 50 inch tv as my computer monitor, they're a decent size, but i feel for a large living room, it would make sense to use a larger screen. My mom has a 65 inch tv in her bedroom.

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

For a large living room sure but mine isn't a particularly large room, maybe 4x3m or so. I could maybe push to something bigger but 49" isn't a problem. It's a pretty comfortable size that I can watch without having to move my head. Budget is also a large constraint, I don't have the magical "large tech RU-vidr budget" that others have 😜. When I bought my current one I was literally moving in so my budget was already tight given everything else I needed to buy. It was a choice between this 49" or a lower end 55", I opted for the smaller but better panel over the larger but lower quality one. Whenever I do upgrade I'd probably be looking at OLED which is mega expensive with large panels. I've almost been toying with the idea of a pull down projector screen that I could use to give a huge screen for the rare occasion I watch a movie and then keep a more sensible sized TV for most of my media consumption which is either RU-vid, TV documentaries or live news.

@High.on.Life_DnB 2 года назад

I could get these bronze 50s for €209 or I could spend €249 for the bronze 100, but I'd need two pair and the center speaker which is more expensive than one pair of 100 (€279)... But I want an upgrade in sound, and I'm pretty sure these monitor audio speakers will deliver that upgrade. I've got an old set of Sony satellites from a home theater system but I've heard monitor audio speakers once and was blown away by the sound quality.

@richburmond6761 2 года назад

Huuuh im not getting why the tweeters on the sides. Would mess up direction right?

@camerongray1515 2 года назад

Those are the surround speakers where the idea is that they have a wider dispersion pattern so that the surround coming from the rear channel doesn't sound as "directional" and isn't as easy to pinpoint. With the surround channels you generally want something that sounds like it's coming from behind you to either the left or right but you don't want it to sound like it's coming from an exact, easy to pinpoint location behind you which can be distracting. Like everything with audio it's very much down to personal preference - some people will prefer regular monopole speakers as the surround but for me, coming from monopole surrounds to these, I quite like the wider dispersion pattern - sound coming from the rear channels is a lot less distracting.

@richburmond6761 2 года назад

@@camerongray1515 thanks for the solid explanation. Appreciate it. They seem very interesting. I see People using them quite close to their seated position. Im kinda playing with the idea of going 7.1 even instead of 5.1. But the rears are further away than the sides. So i should get maybe mono for rears and these for side? Also dont u feel like 2 tweeters overdo the highs? Im pretty sensitive for fatigue because of tinnitus (too many parties)

@workstuff5253 2 года назад

Do you still have these and how are they performing?

@camerongray1515 2 года назад

Still using them and they're working great, can't fault them at all!

@Zursen 3 года назад

Argh! Due to Brexit I can't order those mounts you used for the speakers. The MASM mounts have a max load of 4kg, Bronze 50's are 5kg, should I risk putting them on anyway? Seems like a really neat mount that would barely be noticable too. I don't need any crazy angles either.

@ady2416 11 месяцев назад

that hole at the back is for a retention bolt im surprised its missing as the other sound bar you unboxed had 2 in place ? to my knowledge its keeps the driver secure to the front baffle! (im baffled) pun intended if that's missing how is the speaker attached to the front ? its supose to be there to turn a quarter every 6 month if need be or if it came loose in transit it should be a big black bolt ??

@camerongray1515 11 месяцев назад

On the C150 and FX speakers it holds the driver in, I made a video recently where I replaced one of the C150's drivers after it got damaged. On the Bronze 50 it's a screw thread designed for their "FIX-M" bracket. I'm not sure how the driver is held in, possibly a screw thread behind the plate containing the terminals.

@ady2416 11 месяцев назад

@@camerongray1515 I see....I think I just watched that video!!!! this is good to know!! as i have only just acquired this infomation myself as im about to buy some speakers after selling my Dali Zensor 3. i was looking into some new ones but im stuck between 4 brands Wharfedale Diamonds 12.2 the Q Acoustics 3030i or the Polk Audio es20 or the monitor audio bronze 100!!!! thats how I stumbled on you video ;) im leaning to the bronze 100 as I don't want to step back from the Dalis......any advice ?

@hypnotechno Год назад

sorry cameron where are the wires? are these wireless?

@camerongray1515 Год назад

The cables all run inside the walls/ceiling back to my AV receiver in the corner of the room.

@thomasuebel891 3 года назад

Hello Hier large the room ?

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

How large is the room? It's around 4x4m

@und4287 3 года назад

The lower right corners of the boxes say "USELESS IF DROPPED".

@RWL2012 3 года назад

yeah, he totally didn't say that in the video :P

@pantysaer 3 года назад

Nice setup. You can get 90 degree banana plugs.

@leezipfell6838 3 года назад

After watching your review I purchased the same package plus the AMS Atmos speakers too. Thank you

@fatthar4804 3 года назад

Need the bigest TV you can get

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

While I'd maybe go a bit larger when I upgrade it, the current 49" one is absolutely fine, it looks a lot smaller in the video due to the wide angle lens.

@RWL2012 3 года назад

Very nice! Personally I would replace the buss bars with little cables between the low and high frequency bi-wire terminals if "single wiring". Apparently the bars can technically "degrade" the sound quality, whether the manufacturer knows what they're doing or not!

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

To be honest I can't think of any actual reason why that would improve the sound, it's such a short length and the busbars are extremely thick and low resistance. If you have any information I'd be interested to see it but it sounds a bit more like "audiophiles wanting to show off using extortionately priced speaker wire" rather than anything scientific.

@RWL2012 3 года назад

@@camerongray1515 yeah it was in a video of higher end Monitor Audio floorstanders in an audiophile type shop. they claimed that doing it made a difference but hmm, yeah! let me know if you really want me to link it haha

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

It would be interesting to see but I'd struggle to believe it would make any difference. If anything was to make a difference to the quality, surely it would be the thinner wire inside the speaker rather than the thick, short busbars. I tend to take a lot of "audiophile" stuff with a pinch of salt, especially when it turns into audiophile mains sockets and gold plated digital interconnects.

@RWL2012 3 года назад

@@camerongray1515 good point about internal wiring! the video is ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UKg29XH0EnY.html and it's at 7:53, sorry to bother you and I'm sure they sound so good that it's not really an issue :)

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

Yeah, I'm not really convinced, they just seems to be making standard unsubstantiated "audiophile" claims without any sort of explanation or scientific reason. They also just seem to take insane comfort by spending more money, like where they try to justify the metal bars being bad by mentioning that the ones included on $85k speakers are the same as the ones that come with $1k speakers. It's as if maybe the engineers that work for the manufacturer have worked all this sort of stuff out and deem them to be good enough quality. If you go fully down the "audiophile" rabbit hole you'll get people buying "audiophile grade" plugs, sockets and fuses, hell, you can even spend £269 on an "audiophile consumer unit" which is literally a £50 2 way Hager board that they claim to have "specially treated" - needless to say, things like this make me skeptical of many "audiophile" claims!

@aaa000777 3 года назад

Frequency response specifications without a decibel reference are meaningless.

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

Ahh sorry, should have mentioned it, the specs from Monitor Audio give those ranges at -6dB. Unfortunately they don't really provide full response curves or anything, tempted to test mine.

@aaa000777 3 года назад

@@camerongray1515 , thanks for clarifying. I would be interested to learn what their frequency response is at + or - 3 db.

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

Yeah, unfortunately they don't publish them, definitely need to test mine

@therandombrandan942 3 года назад

Makes your TV look tiny

@camerongray1515 3 года назад

Yeah, thankfully it looks fine in real life, that shot was taken with a relatively wide angle lens from way further back than I'd sit. It's a 49" TV so while not huge is a decent size for the room (camera was in a different room recording through the door!). The wall is around 4m wide. I deliberately have the speakers far apart to give a decent stereo width and to prevent the area around the TV from looking cluttered. I've also started recently using a projector screen occasionally which fits nicely between the two speakers to give a 120" or so screen.

@therandombrandan942 3 года назад

Cool