Hi Frank. Im a 28 years old guy from Denmark🇩🇰who saw your RU-vid videos about your feeding system. I tried it this season 2023. And must say it has been a really good year. 1. National Ace Hens middle distance sport 1. Ace pigeon hens middle distance sport. 1. Ace pigeon hens middle distance open. 2. Ace pigeon hens middle distance sport. 1. Middle distance sport championship section. 5. Middle distance Championship section. 3. Yearling Championship section. 3x1 section winner middle distance. 1x group winner. 4 times number 2 in section 😁👍 Amazing system! Thanks a lot for your videos. Keep up
I am so very happy for you and the results many are achieving are amazing. I know what can be done with good pigeons and proper bodyweight because I work so much less than my competitors but can still be at the top.
Fantastic video, Frank, thank you. The 80% barley you mention is actually a bit less if we talk about the Versele depure mix which contains less than 50% barley. I would add that another advantage of sending light birds is that during the multiple birds of prey attacks they get, they will be less chosen from the flock, the agility depending a lot on body weight. Being a falcon I guess you'd prefer a slower bird easier to catch and with more meat to eat. 😆
Hey Frank, thanks for the great lesson! Not to beat a dead horse, but I am a stickler for math, and am about to purchase a bunch of barley to mix my feed. The Versele-Laga website says that Depure has 24% barley, and you were talking 80% barley. I was thinking I would mix 20% Versele Laga Classic with 80% pure Barley grain, and use that as my race mix. What do you think? (It is really hard to get a premix depurative here in Memphis!!!)
I still have to learn this RU-vid stuff and find out why I miss replies to questions that are far down the list. Mix the 80% barley with the 20% classic. That is excellent. You will be better off than the Depure from Vesele laga.
Hi Frank 2 questions is this for young birds also ? and second question is when do you start putting the birds on the depurative mix for the 6 days before racing starts ?
I do feed like this for the young birds. I usually have the young on 30% barley through training and about a week before the first race I put them on the barley mix and treat them like the old birds. If they young have a long training toss of a big workout I will add more grain for that feeding and then back to the barley mix. The young are growing some but not molting much during racing so you can feed the same as the old birds. I put the old birds on the mix maybe two weeks before the season starts and the young about one week before the season starts.
Everyone thinks this game takes all kinds of time and effort. I want to succeed with less time and effort. I could have better results with more time and effort but I am happy with my results like this.
I am a new flyer and It works great for me I won champion loft, master loft, average speed and champion bird on my young bird A series season. First year flying thanks again 👍🏼
Great video thanks Wanted to ask how would you adjust feed for longer races up to 900km (560 miles) We start in May and looking forward to the new season
I will be doing a Part 2 on Feeding for Long Distance and then Part 3 on Feeding young birds. I will make Part 2 in about a week. Plan to do a Live Stream on Sunday.
Hi Frank great video, couple of questions they get fed once a day do they only get out once a day ie a toss or loft fly and what ration of food would you start with as a base amounts for cocks an hens before adjusting the amounts, thanks from Scotland
I only exercise two times per week between races and usually feed in the morning or after the exercise. I usually feed 100% barley for a couple weeks before I start the road training to bring the weight down. They do not get too much each day. I do not loft fly before training and just start them close to home and inch them out to maybe 30 miles before the first race. Once training starts they are on the barley mix.
Thanks again Frank, great video. We used to get Versele-laga feed here in Hawaii. Wanted to use feed helps prevent muscle burn out. Can I use another brand of Dupree. And on return days use 16% protein mix … in place of VL brand … Thanks, again Tony
Hello again frank. Here in philippines. We basket the birds on friday, saturday they will eat on truck and sunday is our release or race day. What day can you recommend to do the 35 miles train on your tuesday and your 50 to 70 miles on thursday if our race day is sunday? Thank you frank😊
love the videos a question on your feeding you say 80%barley mix then in the video you show versa laga depure are you feeding 80% of the depure mix thanks again
You can mix your own grain or use the Depurative. If I can get great barley I mix my own if not I can feed Depure from Versele Laga. Either works super.
I start the light mix about a week or two before the race season. It is only used during the racing. The rest of the time the pigeons have plenty to eat. During molting they must have plenty and very rich feed to grow the new feathers.
Hi Jon, I know some of the breweries sell a barley that was already soaked in sugar water before they make the beer. If this malt barley is just barley and nothing added it should be fine. I had a friend buying from a brewery and his birds were so fat. That barley although it looked the same was presoaked in sugar.
Yes, I was a bit confusing. You can use either. The VL Depure is low protein low fat and the mix I make using barley is low protein low fat. Both work.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons so do you mean mix 80% barley with a 20% heavy mix like champion. Or use just the depurative on its own. Or 80% depurative and 20% champion
Good morning Dr Thank you for all your information I will try your system this week and I will let you know how it's will go the result but I have problem with feeding & training on the loft day per day please I have one question for you and please and I want you to 1 ) because I want to know how many grams of feeding I should give to my pigeons every day from the day of arriving until day of the basket, 2 )and how long time io should training my pigeons on the loft from the day of arrival until the day of basket 3) and if it's good to make the male and female meet on the day of basket I thinking lots for your help and your kindness
No need to have the males and females meet the day of shipping. That will not help and only hurt. If they mix after the races that is Okay. I race them on Saturday, train 35 miles on Tuesday and maybe 50 to 70 miles on Thursday. That is it. Email me and I will send you a simplified feeding system you can follow. Frank@McLaughlinLofts.com
Hello again Frank!! I'm lost about you saying that when you feed twice daily, you are over feeding...is it not how much you feed and not how frequently? Please clear my head..thanks
It certainly is how much you feed. If you fed a measured amount and divided that in two the birds would act so hungry most would feed more and over feed. Fanciers that feed in the morning until the birds are about full usually feed the same again that day. Nearly double what is really needed. Much easier to feed a set amount once a day. Feed until they slow down go to water or start to leave barley and that is all they get until the next day.
Hello Frank .I will race this year for my first time our races are every week we ship on Friday and they start from 130 miles all way to 400 miles , I saw your videos but I’m not sure for long or short distances , can you tell me how many days should I feed 80%barley please.
Do you have to ship the same birds each week? They can fly weekly through 300 miles but you may want to give some birds a week off before the 400. Feed like this for 100 to 300 miles and see my long distance feeding for the 400. Email me and I will send you the system. Frank@McLaughlinLofts.com
Thank you Sir for your information. I'm new in pigeon racing just started. I understand every word you said. My only concern how much do you feed per bird? Let's I have 16 birds to learn and understand the sport. I think that is important to me as a new comer.
Good honest video. Would you feed young birds on this system and if so how long before the first race would you start on the depurative mix Thanks 🏴
For old birds I put them on the barley mix several weeks before the first race to get the body weight down before training. I do not loft fly the old birds before I start training so I must make sure they are light and buoyant. For the young birds I have them on 50% barley when I want them to start exercising around the loft and keep them on 50% barley during training. I move to 80% barley about 10 days before the first young bird race.
You’re awesome! Videos are great. I’m new and young to the sport against some old guys who have been racing for a while. I have Rotondo and have seen lots of other theories, but your explanations come with the WHY which really clicks. Thanks!
I am happy you like the videos. If I cannot find a reason Why I usually will not do something. The sport has changed over the years and many live in the past.
Hi Frank I love your videos just come back into to sport after a ten year break. I am going to concentrate on the celibate system with your feeding methods. But would like to ask what feeding method do you condon on young birds racing
I will do a video on feeding the young. I really feed them almost exactly the same way and start about a week before the race season. No need to keep them on the barley mix too early. I will give the babies more grain if they have a longer workout. Only because they are young.
Handle your team when they return from a six hour flight. That is how they should feel when they go to the race. Light and buoyant with no bulk or roundness. Not heavy at all but you can feel the muscle but not big and full muscle.
If you have Depure from Versela Laga use the Depure but watch my feeding videos and feed the measured amount. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-euD2T2MsNGk.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NECMz1MuabM.html
nice video again . I do agree that feeding make difference, it could vary from hot to moderate weather region. but with the passage of time I found that we have quite good and precise nutrition available . those supplements have research based nutrition that our pigeon as an athlete needs, we may not able to maintain those essentials nutrition with feeding only. Now as we have supplements, nothing more left with except to control weight :) in past we cared about carb,fat protein etc ,but now those are in bottle :)
I do supplement my birds with plenty of minerals and also use this system during the week. Minerals are most important and I use this stuff. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aLjysaQflgM.html
I like 80% barley and 20% breeding mix. I have not been able to get barley and I am feeding Depure from Versele Laga. Low protein and low fat. See my pinned comment at the top of the page.
Good day sir frank, you mentioned you train them tuesday and thursday, in these days fo you still feed light? can they recover from that workout with that feed?
I still feed light. The training is not long. If they fly more than 90 minutes I will add more rich feed to the mix. I only train two times per week so they will be fine.
I have found the opposite and the dropping from my pigeons are excellent and healthy pigeon should never have droppings stick to their legs. That is odd you have seen this.
Prepped old birds this past year by utilizing the feeding program frank uses. Back to back tough combine headwind races, 400 and 500. Finished 1st in both w the same hen, 2nd hen came in 2nd and 3rd club and 5th and 7th combine. 🙏
I have a small loft 10X6 separated in two sections. I do t have the luxury to have a separate loft for racers. One for breeders. One for young birds. If I feed your system young birds will come weak underdeveloped. But if I feed without barley I can’t compete. What mix you would advise in my case? Or I must build another loft and feed differently racers and breeders? Thank you for your high quality informative videos!
I am sorry to say that you cannot feed like me if they old birds are raising babies during racing. You must feed plenty of good rich feed so the babies will not be stunted. If I had one section I would leave all the feed they want in front of the pigeons at all times. They do not eat as much when they have all they want. If you do not have hawk problems leave the loft open so the birds can go in and out all day long for exercise. You can fly well like this.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons I’m in Staten Island, NY. Hawks are problem. Usually they are prevalent from October to March. During summer time I find very rare hawk attack. And I don’t lose any bird. But winter time it’s tough time dealing with hawks. Most likely breeders I’ll keep in a separate section and racers in the other section. So I can feed accordingly birds in each section too. Thank you for your opinion. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Keys to the castle, haaa? start this year with 88 babies. trying to do what you advise us on the feeding system. I did exactly what you told us to do. start with 88 and By the end of last week, I had left with six birds and lost 82. They couldn't even make it to the 40-mile toss. some picked up by a mall-man couple blocks away. They couldn't even walk. I lost 82 with your system, sir. %20 of the mix did not generate enough energy, and %80 barley. Barley contains quite a lot of crude fiber. The crude fiber is indigestible for pigeons, and this is seen in their droppings when they are given a lot of barley. The fibers can be seen with the naked eye; they are passed through undigested. Barley is also not rich in other nutrients. Its protein is biologically poor and contains hardly any fat or vitamin A. Colossal failure system.
I am sorry to hear this. Like I preach in all my videos if you are going to feed like me you must train like me. You cannot be pounding the birds down the road day after day. Even so, if you fed until they left a handful they would still do great. Something else was happening other than the feeding. Many from around the world have had such incredible dominating results. For young you should feed 50% barley all through the training process. Here is the young bird video on feeding and training and I am sad to hear you had such bad luck: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j0cJXM_C6BY.html
Hey Kevin, I add some fats for the distance but not much protein. Pigeons need very little fat to fly long distances. Most over do the fat and feed which can lead to heavy birds. The body weight has to be perfect to race the distance also. I will do a video on long distance feeding soon.
Hi, thank you for your videos. Your simplified approach of racing pigeons actually makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE. And i would like to ask, How much grams r u feeding ur racing pigeons per day?
I suggest feeding until they leave a handful of barley. If you are not training the pigeons very much. See this video on my measurements: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-euD2T2MsNGk.html
You can feed until they leave a few pieces of barley and feed only once a day. My birds tend to clean this up fairly fast but I have been doing this for years. Better to feed until they leave a bit of barley and stop.
Why barley, what is it about barley that makes it so desirable? Wheat has a greater concentration of most of the vitamins and minerals than barley. So why barley and not wheat? Thank you for the advice.
Hello Karl, If you can get wheat in the husk it would probably be Okay. The birds tend not to overeat barley. It is about their least favorite grain. I know Barley works and I am not sure about wheat.
Good day Frank!! Why do you use de chlorinizer? Or whatever it's called...what effects do we get if ever the water is moderately or heavily chlorinated?
I think the dechlorinator removes the chlorine or at least enough of the chlorine so it does not kill the friendly bacteria, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aLjysaQflgM.html
Hi frank Bala from india and i am recent subscriber and watched all your videos I like the quote which you have said , master in feeding then you are master in racing So i have some doubts related to feeding mix I would like to get your email so that i can clear my doubts. Thanks in advance, love from india
thank you for your honest advices .. can you sir tel us what are the meaning of speed distances 100 km to 240 km? and what is te rigt wauy to feed for middle distances we are now playing midlle distances and hope that you advice us for the right way to feed for middle distances thank you sir we apreciate a lot your help ..
Hi Frank great video I'm new to the sports. just got few questions. I have some Yb's birds. I want to start racing by next year what should I be feeding my Y'Bs to get them started with your feeding system? what age should I start training them ? right now they just fly around my loft. Any advice /help greatly appreciated
Welcome to the sport. You should mix in about 30% barley to your feed mix for the young and feed plenty. They are growing and molting and need the feed. By adding 30% barley they will exercise readily. Load them up with feed until the leave feed each day. Once racing starts you can move to feeding like I spoke about in the Old Bird Short Distance racing. Once your young pigeons are flying strong around the loft maybe exercising for 30 minutes or more it is time to start training. Start slow and pick nice days. There is no rush. See my Educating Young Bird Video.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons I feed them once a day is that good enough? what feed mix would you recommend? I'm using the winner cup mix right now, as of barley where is the place I can get it? its hard for me to get one were I'm at.
Once a day is best or you will over feed. Not sure about where you can find the barley. Where are you located? Most grain dealers can order good barley.
I have not been able to get any decent barley this year. It has been sold out so I have been feeding the Depure from Versele Laga and not mixing my own this season.
The derby starts at 250kms and ends at 600kms. What is the routine of 80%barley&20% breeder mix and how many days should they rest before training toss?
For old birds I put them on the barley mix several weeks before the first race to get the body weight down before training. I do not loft fly the old birds before I start training so I must make sure they are light and buoyant. I train the old birds for maybe two weeks before the first race and get them out maybe 40 miles. For the young birds I have them on 50% barley when I want them to start exercising around the loft and keep them on 50% barley during training. I move to 80% barley about 10 days before the first young bird race.
Hii frank great video.. I'm from India im gonna follow this process but the thing is what amount of feed does i must feed per pigeon i mean how many grams of feed for a single pigeon?? thank you
It is best to feed until they leave a handful of Barley. 75% barley or paddy rice will work with 25% grain mix. If you measure the feed you cannot work the pigeons very much between races. See this video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-euD2T2MsNGk.html
I am following your program from Melbourne, Australia, and would like to report to you that your video have help my bird to clock 3rd in Federation (Western Pigeon Federatio) from my 2nd race ever today. I used 80% Ian McKay Depurative & 20% Ian McKay racing mix. Thank you for sharing your feeding technique. 👏👏👏
Hi good day.. if you are feeding your pigeon once a day. How much do you feed per pigeon?and how often you let them go outside or loft fly? Thanks in advance😊
If you are going to loft fly you can feed once a day until they start to leave a few pieces of barley. They will loft fly if you feed like this. I usually do not loft fly the old birds so I keep them a little hungry.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons thanks so much air for your reply..so until they leave some of the barley i will feed them..is 80% barley 20% depurative can be used as well with young birds?
Feed 80% barley with 20 breeding mix or depurative. You may be able to buy a good depurative and you will not have to mix your own. I feed the young birds that same way and start the 80% barley a week or so before the first race.
If you are basketing at that time feed as early in the day as possible. I suggest if you are able to also feed a very small amount about 12 noon so they may drink a little more water.
Some clarity please...the Versele Laga Depurative "traditional" has 32% barley. You mention "80% barley mix" over and over and then near the end you mention 100% barley (for a different reason, I know). My question is, in the Versele Laga "mix" you use, what is the barley percentage? Thanks for the vids!!
Hello Frank, I am sorry for the confusion. This year I mixed my own feed with 75% barley and 25% Champion Mix. You want to keep the protein and fat content down and the Depure does that. They do not send Depure to the USA anymore so I just mix my own for low fat low protein feed using 75% barley. You can go 80% barley also. You will not believe how they birds feel and perform.
Hi Frank ! pretty new pigeon racing and wanting some advice ,your way system makes so much sense , but let’s say i’m feeding 80% barley and 20% breeder do i still follow a the measurement of 1oz. max per bird ? or till they leave barley ? thanks !
If you are new please feed once a day until they leave a small handful of barley. You cannot make a mistake on feeding if you feed the race team once a day until they leave a few bits of barley.
Can I use your feeding system? Our race will be start training on march. Im feeding my birds twice a day with racing mix and i removed the green peas and add some munggo beans. Is it okay if I use my racing mix and I will add some barley gradually and adjust it to small percent before my training start? I notice my birds are not buoyant.
Here is my feeding series. Switch to 50% barley now and feed once a day. Feed 50% barley through training and then switch to more barley or depurative a week before the races start. Here is my feeding series. ru-vid.com/group/PLfjpm1Kc9E0UkXcdnfTrnV_VKTkfNozbt
In south africa where I live we don't have versele laga.. Can I use any depuritive mix.. And barley.. And do I only feed them depuritive mix and barley
hello sir. With all due respect, I did use your feeding system last year. I could not see any benefit to it over the last racing season. Birds were reluctant to eat it. The birds racing, were neither better nor worse for it, but at the distance they failed; even at 250 miles, some got lost and didn't make it. I feed 10 of my youngster regular seed with no barley, and they did awesome; even they were at the top of the racing sheet every time.I don't know But didn't work for me.
Hello John, I feed Versele Laga because I like it and do not have many grain options here. I get nothing or in no way profit from Versele Laga, only tell what I use but there are many great feed companies. Everyone has their opinion and if your birds are reluctant to eat barley, if it is a good barley, then you are over feeding. The results have been incredible from around the world using my feeding system and some of the top most famous fanciers are now feeding like me. No matter what we do sometimes results do not come and you cannot blame just the feeding. Feeding is only part of this. The birds must be super and only the top pigeons will perform to the front. Corn and wheat are decent feed but for sprinting there is nothing more beneficial than barley. I am sure many will agree after seeing how feeding like me turned around the results of so many. If you have a system that works stick to it. My system works for many with little time for the pigeons and still want great results. Hopefully you will gain some info from other videos I film. I like others opinions always.
Hello Melville, At this point feed the young birds what you are feeding, Give the plenty and feed until at least they leave a little feed. They are molting and growing and you cannot restrict feed now.
Hey Frank, I'm the one who asked you about the feeding for the 430 mile race. All I can say is THANK YOU. You are truly the master. Your formula works instantaneously. I even improved my previous records by an hour. Again, thank you so much. BTW, my bird is just 7 months old. -Boss Jaguar YT Official
My breeders have feeders full of feed at all times. I feed mostly Versele Laga Champion Mix. You must keep all the grits and minerals also in front of the breeders at all times. Minerals are more important than the grain mix you use. Any good around 16% protein will be great for the breeders. I also keep a feeder of chicken lay pellets in the breeding sections but they do not eat too many pellets.
I am not sure what your question is? Watch all my feeding videos here. ru-vid.com/group/PLfjpm1Kc9E0UkXcdnfTrnV_VKTkfNozbt Email me and I can send you a simple feeding program. Frank@McLaughlinLofts.com
You may like these two videos. One shows the amounts. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NECMz1MuabM.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-euD2T2MsNGk.html
These videos show how much I use: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-euD2T2MsNGk.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NECMz1MuabM.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wYW1IAtxK_Q.html
I am going to try to measure my feed this year. My birds clean up the mix fairly fast and are never full of feed except the day of return from the race. I do not train much so I can get away with the less feed. I also do not loft fly because being hungry they do not exercise very much. You can feed until one bird goes to water. They will have plenty then.
Watch my Playlist on Feeding and get so much info. Here is the video on measurements. If you feed like me you must train like me. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-euD2T2MsNGk.html
Hi Darren, You can race on Depurative nothing else through 300 miles. Watch and see what happens. Birds will be amazing. Feed them rich seeds and all they can eat on return from the race.
I race through 300 miles without adding fats if the race looks under 7 hours. I may add fats the day of shipping for 300 miles should the race look like it might be over 7 hours. Most of the time I stick to the depurative mix.
This is my depurative and it is high carb, low protein high fiber. If I was to mix it myself I would up the barley to 50% and and eliminate the wheat. If you buy a good barley and mix in 20% breeding mix you will do great. white pigeon wheat 23%, white dari 11%, red dari 11%, safflower 10%, pigeon barley 24%, broken rice 3%, peeled oats 5%, brown linseed 2%, black coleseed 2%, thistle seed 1% crude protein 12%, crude fat 6%, crude fibre 6%, crude ash 3%, carbohydrates 61%, Pellet 8%
I must measure and see. I feed until they slow down and keep them a bit hungry. Email me and I will send you a simple feeding program to follow. Frank@McLaughlinLofts.com
I am feeding 75% barley now with 25% Versele Laga Champion but any breeder mix will do. We start racing in two weeks and I will not get much road training in so I need the body weight to be perfect.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons Hi we start Racing here in Australia first week in JULY Starting around 200klm. Then end in November at 960+ klm or over 600miles. So our schedule is very demanding and we also have 2 races at 500miles and also a classic race at 700miles.. Yes training feeding and rest is paramount...
That is a long tough program. Watch my video on Preparing my hens ready to win back to back long distance combines. You can apply the same. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wYW1IAtxK_Q.html
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons What percentage of peas do you feed during training and flying around the loft before road training starts building up there fitness levels prior to the first race...
I do feed the young the same way. I will add some extra Champion mix should the babies fly more than 90 minutes only because they are young but it is the same system. I start to get serious a week before the first race and move to this system.
Thank you Frank looking forward to more of your videos , but I have another question do you feed your breeders or should I say leave feed in front of them all day or is twice day enough. I have been out of the game for many years and now that I have time to relax and spend time and enjoy myself ......would love to talk with you to pick your brain thanks for your time .😊
I keep feed in front of my breeders at all times. One feeder is full of grain and they eat mostly this. One is full of pellets and they eat some of the pellets but not much. Plenty of grits and minerals at all times. My birds waste some feed but the babies are super.
Check out this video here for the measurements but you cannot work them hard feeding like this, and then the playlist below. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-euD2T2MsNGk.html ru-vid.com/group/PLfjpm1Kc9E0UkXcdnfTrnV_VKTkfNozbt
Hope this helps. You cannot make a mistake. netorgft1565589-my.sharepoint.com/:w:/g/personal/frank_mclaughlinlofts_com/ETZPiGLQuhFGlCqD3JbZQYsBJxlb2nd-wUVa6e9L4zHlqg
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