MASTER OF WINE Tries HIGHLY RATED Wines from VIVINO Under $20 

Or rating 5 stars because it's high alcohol content and they're wasted😂

Thanks for your comment - and I will keep them coming!

Of course, but Vivino is made for common people, not for Masters of wine :)

God forbid the app reflect the majority of the userbase. God forbid people be shamed for not wanting to taste a disinfected wooden floor

Thats true!

I totally agree. Maybe dessert wines and sweet wines score higher than they should. That’s another example.

This is an insightful comment! Subconsciously I take certain IMDB rating more seriously than others depending on the genre I now realise. Extrapolating the nature of ratings per genre from IMDB to Vivino is a great comparison.

I find this to be especially true for horror movies since it's such a subjective genre. I feel like any horror film rated over 6.5 has a decent chance of being quite good.

@LixTen I would recommend you to check out wing king.

Interesting!

Dammit. You beat me to it!

Thanks

Thanks for sharing! I will play around more with Vivino in the future

It’s lovely wine, ignore this guy. I know loads of people who drink and love 19 crimes including myself.

Thanks Madeline! Sounds good.

Do it!

:)

Meoimi ??? - for me, both Meoimi and Caymus remind me of Durian fruit. That is, they provoke a gag reflex. I don't understand this, because I enjoy big, fruit forward, overly extracted wines in general - but not these two, for sure.

I probably agree with you, but to play devil's advocate perhaps the 3.9 did convey some information as it corresponded to Konstantin's 2nd lowest score. Sample size very small, I know.

Meiomi is putrid

Thanks, will do!

Thanks Steve

Thanks Pat!

Glad it was helpful!

I appreciate that

Thank you - more coming!

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks!

Thank you!

Thank you!

Sehr gerne!

That is also coming up - I promise!

Danke!

Dankeschön!

Couldn’t have said it better :)

@@LiveLifeLasting likewise! Thirded!!

I will play around more with Vivino - for sure.

Hey not sure if you’re still active on there, but its now on .1 increments, so now technically a 50 point scale

Glad you liked it

Thank you very much. We were not touched by the floods but the Ahr and some other regions have suffered terrible damage.

Amen.

That is an really good explanation for Vivino. Especially about the drinking audience. I assume most are into "light to drink" rather than "complexity" of the wines.

God…Meiomi…vintage after vintage I fail to comprehend how this is a “Pinot noir” and how anyone enjoys this plonk. If this is their house style then it’s one of the worst decisions in wine history.

I think Vivino's average rating on cheap and/or affordable wine would be really skewed toward your average wine drinkers' preference ie. big bold sweet fruity super oaky wine that is easy to drink, whereas the average rating on the more expensive wine (ie. grand cru classe bordeaux) would probably reflect toward the more serious wine drinkers preference since your average wine drinker probably wouldn't spend $100 or more for a bottle of wine, although sometimes you'll see a 1 star rating on a grand cru classe bordeaux with comments like "expensive, dry, tart, not sweet, not fruity enough, etc" from those average wine drinkers crowd 😅

Люди, должны понимать, что алкогольные напитки - это яд, какими бы красивыми именами они не назывались. Под влиянием алкоголя биоэнергия организма приобретают болезнетворные свойства (внешне это проявляется в виде сероватой окраски излучаемых потоков). ! Человека можно сравнить с трансформатором энергий. Многие болезни вызывают загрязнения неких энергетических потоков (на востоке их называют мередианами), невидимых обычным зрением (происхождение того же рака от - загрязнения чакр и мередианов). Ум всегда придумает аргументы научнообоснованные, что есть мясо, пить спиртное или курить - это полезно, хотя это яд и разрушает душу в любых дозах. Возможно разово он кого-то и выручал, но не тогда, когда это становится нормой. Наше российское общество побеждают без войны. По данным, алкогольно-зависимой является уже примерно половина населения страны. От алкоголиков рождаются умственно и физически дефектные дети - у них уже нарушены хромосомы. И от них (и их детей) уже не может получиться полноценное потомство. 17% детей в стране уже рождалось врождённо слабоумными. И оставалось добрать ещё только один процент - чтобы процесс генетического вырождения нации стал необратимым. Такая нация уже никогда не сможет воспроизводить полноценное потомство, она превратится в страну слабоумных уродов - и затем вымрет. И это - ещё не всё. 80% учащейся молодежи уже пробовали наркотики помимо алкоголя и никотина, а 20% - уже прочно “сидят на игле” “крутых” наркотиков. И число наркоманов растёт из года в год. Срок жизни таких - всего около 4-х лет... Придёт время - и некому будет служить в армии, пополнять ряды учёных, врачей, инженеров. Россия превратится в страну умственно отсталых калек и пенсионеров, не получающих пенсий… Сейчас мы должны доказать Богу, что ещё на что-то способны в Эволюционной перспективе. Он ведь намеревался получать от наций хороший “урожай” Совершенных Душ. Нация должна быть в этом отношении перспективной! Большинству людей свойственно перенимать поведение и пороки, наблюдая за другими. Тогда сразу становится понятно, что случаи слабоумия - это вовсе не болезнь, а просто эффект подражания. Наша человеческая задача состоит в том, чтобы стать лучше, это достигается преодолением себя через усилия. Бог отслеживает, что выбирает человект - совершенствование или деградацию. Рассматривайте это как наше тестирование нашим Высшим Учителем (Творцом). Нужен выход из дурных компаний. Медитация. Визуализируем солнышко у себя в груди, с лучами-ручками.

Thanks for sharing!

Thank you!

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thanks!

It does!

Then again just because a wine professional dislikes a wine it does not mean public agrees with the assessment. E.g. compare movie critics vs google rating. The latter is more reliable. While I think wines are not entirely comparable with movies the same applies here to some extent.

Thank you!

Welcome aboard!

Appreciate it!

Only for a while???? 😉 Thank you!

Thanks! Will do!

Thanks!

Thank you!

Danke!

Hahaha exactly... Farm yard aromas will also chase away most average drinkers!😂

@@miriya99 That's another one that scares away some folk. I'm quite partial to these, which I call room dividers, in Germany they have a beer type called Rauchbier, which is low in alcohol and high in smoke flavours, I haven't yet met anyone who found this type to be just okay, You either like it a lot or you abhor it.

Thanks !

Same Here. Great library.

Tannins also come from skins and oak.

Interesting topic for sure!

Thank you!

Thanks for sharing!

Thanks!

Glad you enjoyed it

Thanks!

Thank you. That is a great idea. The vivino tasting was a bit like this - right?

@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine Yeap that was a great video! I really enjoyed that~

Thanks for sharing!

Good for you. It was not to my taste but I did not hate it either.

You are hilarious, please invite me to your parties😂

Interesting experiments!

You are a genius, yes wine is highly suggestive, so always recommend blind tastings when possible, but soon you are going to have to reveal or better yet, get non-somms to participate in same approach/method that don't know what to expect from a particular bottle/name. Since 1976, Stags Leap has never had to worry about selling wine. Reputation and notoriety and marketing, unfortunately go along way especially in the subjective wine industry. Doesn't have to be that way, but soooo sooo many somms say that is the way we always did it. Somm 3 documentary gave all the necessary insight into why the whole linear integer rating systems is flawed; a subjective score on top of head using integer will result in a tie every time as did here with the 90s scores

Sadly, cellar tracker looks like a website from 2005

So you are saying I should do a comparison video between CT and Vivino?!

@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine that could be fun

In my local market in US, Ardanza is a bit more expensive than Riscal. I like both wines, sure wish I could buy Ardanza at Riscal prices!

@@mondarinvino107 I see,in Spain is more or less the same price,great wines both,you can't go wrong.

LOVE Vina Ardanza

@@titanmalt5509 In a famous Spanish online seller, Viña Ardanza costs around 20 euros and Marques de Riscal under 15.

I would contend you won't find many, if any, 95-100 wines in a grocery store and how many bottles have you seen that had points on the label under 88pts? For mass produced wines, the points on the label are usually 88-91. One does see a 92, 93 or 94 every now and then, but usually they are rated too high. I have a correlation of score to price point that I use and also answers the question what would I pay for a wine. As the quality increases, the scale becomes non-linear, which is why one can not use a linear integer scoring system. A 90 score should mean the wine is worth $25.00; 89 would be $19 and the scale precision goes to the hundredths place, above 90 is when the scale changes from linear to non-linear.

Vivino gave me a credit for a cork that was leaking recently, but they requested picture proof. So I'm pretty sure they would not in his case. (Worth a try though)

Thanks! No, I did not in this case... More coming for sure!