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Get instant access to Oceano multi-tracks and Joey Sturgis' full mixing session ► nailthemix.com/oceano
NAIL THE MIX is an online mixing school created by Joey Sturgis, Joel Wanasek and Eyal Levi - the guys who produced bands like TDWP, Chelsea Grin, Blessthefall, Machine Head, Monuments, Miss May I, Of Mice & Men, Reflections, Born Of Osiris, Asking Alexandria and dozens more of this generation's best metal bands.
Every month, NAIL THE MIX members get exclusive access to the REAL MULTI-TRACK SESSIONS from a REAL ALBUM, and a 6-8 hour live streaming class from the producer who mixed it. These are the actual sessions by bands like Gojira, Meshuggah, Periphery, Papa Roach, Machine Head, Bring Me The Horizon, A Day To Remember and more - and NTM is the only place in the world you'll get access to them!

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@eds4754
@eds4754 Год назад
"years and years of trial and error"=the default LinMB settings when you load it up (all attacks, releases, crossovers, dither, automakeup, adaptive, release+behaviour, knee), except for range fully lowered, and threshold and gain adjusted to fit the mix.
@JoeySturgis
@JoeySturgis Год назад
You're welcome 🤣
@jaredstanfield267
@jaredstanfield267 Год назад
😂😂
@hogblockula9335
@hogblockula9335 Год назад
Thats what i do lmao
@cjwallgor
@cjwallgor Год назад
Lol ditto here - LinMB is magic. Super secret trick you see used by MANY mixers on 2BUSS / Mastering. You can push its output to get obscene amounts of CLEAN level without it clipping (within reason) or resorting to a limiter or actual clipper. FYI - to my knowledge this trick was founded by Machine / Putney ❤️
@I-Sharted1
@I-Sharted1 10 месяцев назад
Joey Sturgis produces good records, you produce smelly gas.
@oldguysplaymetal5517
@oldguysplaymetal5517 Год назад
One thing i like about Joey, is that he does what he hears. And after watching him do something like this, I find that I am taking more chances. I just mixed a song using Mid/side processing during mixing, for some keys and added elements, and it worked great. I also added 2 different exciters at different stages in the mastering chain (hesitantly) but it sounded really huge, and natural, too. I love how it added to the room and overhead tracks on the kit. We get into phases as mixers where you start to think all your plug-in additions might be making things sound worse. Then you watch a video like this, LOL. IOW, if it sounds better when you add it, add it, and if it doesn't after you A/B it, take it away.
@Daniel.Sanchez75
@Daniel.Sanchez75 Год назад
This mix kicked my ass.
@silaswintersguitar
@silaswintersguitar Год назад
Engineers all over youtube will tell you "it has to be done this way" Joey sturgis teaches you that at the end of the day the idea is to make the song sound good. If this plugin does something for your mix? Add it. Its all about the ears and what the mix tells you!
@alrecks619
@alrecks619 Год назад
i like using two multiple bus compressors with one setting to catch the drums while the other as the "classic glue".
@aperfectnoise
@aperfectnoise 11 месяцев назад
LinMB is just amazing, during mastering as well as mixing, love it to control and pimp drums and vocals!
@joeferris5086
@joeferris5086 Год назад
Interesting video. I do find that +4db setting in ozone curious. It seems to me like the mix is going into ozone10 a bit hot and I personally would like to hear it with ozone set to 0.00 db to compare. I feel like it might get a little clearer given that change but idk. Also I'd like to see if they use insight or a similar plugin and are concerned with the integrated and short term LUFS.
@Axeltab
@Axeltab Год назад
Great mix guys! Curiosity, why in this case the Ozone chain is in post fader position on Cubase insert, if you have done any gain automations (not volume) in pre/gain? Cheers!
@scottriley937
@scottriley937 Год назад
Are the trackspacer settings the same for instrumental and master busses? Otherwise, great explanation of everything and I'm looking forward to trying my own variation of this method.
@whome806
@whome806 Год назад
When Mastering the ceiling was at -0.03 instead of -1, also I noticed you did not engage true peak is this always the way to do this?
@andrewshibo
@andrewshibo 7 месяцев назад
Epic mix. Will you please make one with some October ends tracks? I'd say put in Dark, Of Stars and Play Time!
@SirLongBongFatRipps
@SirLongBongFatRipps Год назад
The only question I have is whether to stay at -1db or to not worry about it.
@motcUS
@motcUS Год назад
kinda happy im not the only one putting 10% ott on my master lmao
@sven6999
@sven6999 Год назад
sauce sauce sauce
@mileshurst9823
@mileshurst9823 7 месяцев назад
the more I watch videos like this, the more I realise how little I know
@iamyetimanYT
@iamyetimanYT Год назад
Joey is absolutely the best in the scene
@thejamesonproject
@thejamesonproject Год назад
i kinda legit disappointed they didn't use jst maximizer.
@brandon_caelum
@brandon_caelum Год назад
JST Maximizer wasnt in development when this was filmed
@jeromegehrlein1765
@jeromegehrlein1765 Год назад
So basically you just use a compressor to compress the compressed signal that comes from a compressor which compressed the signal. Interesting
@tordurhansen333
@tordurhansen333 Год назад
Layered compression. Very common ;)
@krystalwilliams2696
@krystalwilliams2696 Год назад
What song is this?
@akudamer
@akudamer Год назад
послушал первый попавшийся трек бринг ми зе хорайзон и свс. И первый и второй спродюсированы по серьезному, слияние рока и поп, работают профессионалы своего дела. Здесь же проседает практически все. Рановато для туториалов. Людей новичков такое, если возьмут на вооружение твои подходы тоже собьют с толку. Без хейта. Успехов и дальнейшего развития тебе!
@pianoatthirty
@pianoatthirty Год назад
This is so interesting. 2 comps, MaxxBass, LinMB, and OTT on the 2-bus? That's awesome. Though doesn't OTT kind of f*ck up the phase you were trying to preserve with the LinMB? Regardless, cool to see this kind of extreme music processing.
@oldguysplaymetal5517
@oldguysplaymetal5517 Год назад
I don't know how Joey gets away with these supposed no-no's and doesn't get phase issues. Maybe that whole thing is over-emphasized? Dan Worral seems to think so...
@SirLongBongFatRipps
@SirLongBongFatRipps Год назад
​@@oldguysplaymetal5517 As long as it's not out 180 degrees, phase should be adjusted to taste like everything else.
@jordanbuechler5143
@jordanbuechler5143 Год назад
I had phase problems with parallel processing OTT but achieving unity gain and using the depth knob did the trick instead
@JBMetalProductions
@JBMetalProductions Год назад
thats a shit ton of fucking plugins... theres goin to be some funky sounding mixes out there lol. I wish i could hear everyones tracks that copy'd these settings lol, its almost like a legit troll.
@BrofUJu
@BrofUJu Год назад
I actually use a ton on my master bus but it's subtle. I'll use a few types of saturation, a couple EQs, a couple compressors. It's all very subtle.
@JBMetalProductions
@JBMetalProductions 27 дней назад
@@BrofUJu all I know is that these linear phase multiband settings will literally just make any mix sound flat as fuck when you go listen to it in the car lol.
@solarnewborn
@solarnewborn Год назад
All that OTT hahah
@MahmoudNader
@MahmoudNader Год назад
But now all of this can be done with JST MAXIMIZER
@regdenee
@regdenee Год назад
@Ryan James I think that the clips where made way before the JST Maximizer was in its creation phase.
@pianoatthirty
@pianoatthirty Год назад
Every tool has its place
@denniskielton2447
@denniskielton2447 Год назад
EDIT: They don't have it set up on every channel, which is why they don't hear it distorting like crazy when they crank the drive. Without putting the NLS channel on every channel strip, theres literally nothing being fed into the NLS bus plug in haha. That's the whole point, to emulate up to 32 individual channels of an analog board and use the Non Linear Summing to sum it like that board would. So, I'm pretty sure it's literally not doing anything here (unless they have NLS channel on some strips I can't see) That being said: You guys are using NLS?!?!? I thought I was alone in this for awhile. Never seen anyone else in metal using it so far (not that I've looked that hard.) It's one hell of a plug in though. It emulates 32 channels of 3 different mega producer's analog boards, since each channel has a slightly different character. (like how some producers may think tracks 10-15 are best for vocals and below 10 best for guitars, etc) but you put the NLS channel on every channel in the mix, then the NLS Buss on your master strip. I like the Spike board better than Nevo personally. Spike is an SSL board therefore fits better with the SSL bus compressor these guys (and everyone else) are using. Nevo is a Neve board (Mike is maybe a Pulltec? don't remember) But man that's sick to see you guys using it as well. I got it thinking it sounded cool even though I've never seen anyone use it, so this is definitely nice. Now ya'll just need to start actually using it haha (it really should come with a better explanation, it's not these dude's fault, they're both legends. It took me a ton of research to find out how it really worked, they basically didn't explain it at all on waves site, only in RU-vid vids buy them.)
@flipatomas
@flipatomas Год назад
pretty sure Taylor Larson used that NLS thing on snares since forever. Until he made his own distortion plugin with mixwave
@helzmusic
@helzmusic Год назад
nice info but there it's probably just used for warmth. I also use nls buss on my master channel all the time, even when I don't use nls channel on my individual tracks. I generally prefer neve in metal genres and mike in hip-hop genres for my own taste. 👌🏻👌🏻
@myq723
@myq723 Год назад
You don't hear it when it's cranked? It's definitely working
@denniskielton2447
@denniskielton2447 Год назад
@@flipatomas hell yeah, good to know thanks
@denniskielton2447
@denniskielton2447 Год назад
@@myq723 not working correctly. Look it up, plain and simple, don't just take my word for it lol. The whole point is it sums up to 32 individual channels of 3 different boards. Maybe it has some effect still on the whole mix, but according to waves, there is literally no input without the channels set up. A lot of people seem to just set it up on their busses though instead of each and every channel (you'd need to start doubling up on big projects pretty fast)
@combyjames
@combyjames Год назад
Kinda funny.. didn't see one of his plugins used.. not a diss. just sayin
@user-cq6lk5mg3r
@user-cq6lk5mg3r Год назад
Mix is ok, but why don't you use some deessing on speech in video, extremely hard to listen...
@greghillmusic
@greghillmusic Год назад
Can you not master in the mix session? Thanks.
@BrofUJu
@BrofUJu Год назад
Why not?
@greghillmusic
@greghillmusic Год назад
@@BrofUJu it's just not good to combine 2 different sessions for one..
@BrofUJu
@BrofUJu Год назад
@@greghillmusic why? I write music for tv and master stuff directly in the mix. If you've got the CPU, it's fine. You can just render all the tracks to WAVs anyway.
@greghillmusic
@greghillmusic Год назад
@@BrofUJu cool, you're doing it wrong. Sure, you can get away with it... but it's wrong.
@BrofUJu
@BrofUJu Год назад
@@greghillmusic again, why? You've given no reason lol
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers 10 месяцев назад
11:30 This sounds like the typical over-produced, dime-a-dozen Metal mix that 99% of bands are using now. Flat, clipped to hell, triggered drums with exactly the same velocity across the board, pushed way to the fore. It sounds so lifeless and robotic it may as well have been _performed_ by computers too. Musicians - you can do better. Don't follow the trend.
@analogkid4557
@analogkid4557 Год назад
Wow, the stuff you think sounds good. It doesn't sound like real music. If you listen to a real band playing this, it doesn't sound this way. I wish mixers these days would use digital tech to make things sound more real instead of unreal.
@danieldavidson5447
@danieldavidson5447 Год назад
This comment made no sense
@alrecks619
@alrecks619 Год назад
okay then, old timer.
@myronmosley2167
@myronmosley2167 Год назад
When’s the last time you went to a live show? And not some underground bands at a local bar or club but like a big well known band. The reason I ask is because you’d be surprised how close their live mixes are compared to their album releases.
@jxcn
@jxcn Год назад
People said the same thing about electronic music at first. Such a close-minded perspective to have. Why isn't there room for both? Some people desire the more heavily processed sound. It's not about one way being better than the other.
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers 10 месяцев назад
Agree 100%. But the majority of people are trend-followers and will go for this ultra-sterile, lifeless master because that's what everybody else is doing. Right on, man - keep doing your own thing.
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