Math gets confused about why dudes don’t like him when he has used his platform to gossip or talk about other battlers like surf, roc, hitman, dna and more. There are multiple blogs of him talking shit about guys and gets in his feelings as soon as his name is brought up. Don’t even bring up how he hasn’t been nearly as active as other top tiers and in his most recent battle geechi whooped him. He came in that space immediately talking about ‘daddy issues’ and ‘bitches’ and then turn around and asked surf ‘why do you hate me?’ wtf
The only people Math has talked about were the people who didnt want to battle him... Math simply wants to battle them for the sake of a battle, regardless of who makes more, who's more popular. None of that matters when you come from Math's era. Math says he can beat someone and issues a challenge and they reject the battle because hes not as popular... is lame asf.
But Surf started all that shit first. Math at first only talked about battling and that was it. It was Surf taking it out of the way (in typical fashion) by trying to trash on the man's career.
The energy in this space is anger and hate. “You new niggas need to bow down to us” Meanwhile in Surfs space it’s a lot of “We could all push this forward is we move together” Shit sorry as hell on this side , I’m out
bro surf say these nigga names a lot and y’all act like y’all don’t hear it he downplay they names in battle rap all day everyday and y’all claim they talk about him all day com on dawg stop
Surf has not said verbs name since like two weeks ago when they were going back and forth he’s tryna push something for the culture and surf has not said math name at all even when math got in his face all those months ago ur buggin
@@jerrellclarke4508 Surf is a finesser. Pushing the culture? How? By acting like it's his idea to do midnight madness? You're dumb if you think Smack ain't involved and isn't getting any money from it.
@@jerrellclarke4508 I fuck wit surf heavy but you definitely cap. I just heard the nigga say verb name last week. Now I ain’t heard him say math name tho.
In Surf space it be a total of about 500 people about 450 are men riding Surf cotail muting speakers hehe and haha everything Surf say not letting people respond to questions ect. But people start they own space to talk they peace without interruptions and the extra stuff it becomes a sausage party? So my question how do u feel about Surf spaces!!?...🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔✌️
Ur obviously bias surf is not the only one who mutes and kicks people twork does it and hustle and greedy and polo and auntie it’s clearly u don’t know what ur talking about
Shout out to Math I love his show. He has great guests. Even if u don’t like Math check it out for the guests. I learned a lot about NY Hip Hop History
@@JokerMerciless13 doesn't matter if I knew or not. It happened and it was some girl shit. Mind you I like surf as well but you gotta call a spade a spade.
It's only because it's Math that people disagree with or hate this. Let it had been Surf saying the same thing these guys are saying word for word it would be praise in the comment session!!!🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣✌️
Verb always pick one target and go on a rampage about him for weeks on end we have seen it since he battles hitman literally verb need to do something to push the culture forward whatever he’s doing with yoshi is cool but he literally has not done nothing for the culture that benifits anyone else besides battle
What other rapper has done this? Most just start their own leagues. And jumps on url when their league starts falling off. Cut it out. Verb gave us all the Saint Louis people. He's done enough. If he chooses to do more that's his decision. Go back to Surf spaces and ride that wave that never existed. 😴
You do know verb is "one of" the first battle rappers to have his own league right??? Lux had lionz den, verb had Word War. Owe is Street Status. Surf finally starts a league, and now he's pushing the culture forward?😂 Verbs league brought STL into battle rap, then came the Midwest Movement, this nigga spearheaded one of the biggest movement that help get the culture to where it is now.
I just don't get all the hate directed at Surf. Like why can't he have his time to shine? Maybe at one time he didn't have his skills as sharp as they should be but right now he's on his A game. His day will come and go and then someone else will have their moment. Verb and Math just sound jealous of Surf.
@@heisenberg2966 You said that like 40 is trash or something. 40 will beat 💩 down Verb's leg. 40's pen is crazy. Plus, Surf CLEARLY didn't care about that battle. PLUS, the app has him winning lol.
@@GodOfDestructionVegeta27 You are making my point! For Surf is constantly calling other Battle Rappers “ Trash “, when he has been the one DISRESPECTING BATTLE RAP, by not taking Battles/ Some Opponents seriously, only writing and giving 2 Rounds, and Criticizing URL/Caffeine, when things DON’T GO THE WAY HE THINKS THEY SHOULD GO! I think TSU SURF is a Talented and Entertaining Person, that has DIARRHEA OF THE MOUTH! Certainly Aye Verb and Math Hoffa might not be as Popular as Surf, but you can never claim that those two DISRESPECT THE CULTURE LIKE SURF DOES!
Math gotta hold himself accountable he be hating on these dudes cause he not praise like them I watched him bash Roc Hitman etc on his podcast for no reason
Verb wants to be the man so bad but just chill brova. U made your mark but you can’t force people to fux with you. And if u didn’t want people to fux with you, u wouldn’t be in these spaces talking like you do Daily.
@@bigdangerous5044 i don't hate no battler. I don't know these niggaz personally. Still waiting for that answer tho. If he BODIED Ice, you should at least remember a few lines. I ain't asking for all 3 rounds
This is my thing my expert opinion is amazing but math it’s turned into a industry podcast and a history of the industry which I have no problem with at all yall touch on battle rap slightly here and there push the damn issue of battle rap on the people u have sitting infront of u and make the general convo about battle rap
Well that's the fans fault. Any time math calls out goodz, surf, roc etc... y'all say math is ice cold right now, he just fishing for a battle when he isn't even relevant. So he steps away from it, a steers his show in a different direction, and now y'all saying he has to talk about battle rap. Let me get this straight, y'all can tell him y'all don't want to see him battle (how he makes money), but then tell him he HAS to bring up battle rap on his show???🤔
@@ks_wallace2324 I fully agree ... the battles that are big good battles for math everyone saying no one wants to see math and then want him to push battle rap on his show he created on his own ... and use it to push the same platform that doesn't want to see him lol ... yeah sure even when he did his battles with the legends people hated that was him pushing battle rap in his own way with battling meth, Nicki Jams, etc so after seeing how they treated him why would he want to push battle rap for
@@14Krazh14 Ong!!! Fans be weird bro. Y'all can't downplay math everytime he wants to battle, then tell him you should push the issue of battle rap on his guest. Why should he have industry people on HIS show and bring up battle rap when battle rap acts like they hate him. Nigga I ain't supporting a culture that don't even fuck with me😂
Why???? The world is way bigger than battle rap. And battle rap dont support him, hes reaching different countries and regions with his content. Hes just growing.
I agree with the point of you become what you continue to think about. I just think it looks like you become like the company you keep because its very easy to take on the ideology of those around you.
@@ballsdeep6548 lol when it comes to battle rap Math needs to 🤫. 30’d by T-Top, 30’d by Showoff, 30’d by Ave, 30’d by Calicoe , 30’d by Bigg K…chill Math 😂😂😂😂
You lying nigga!!!! Math beat Geechi...which is why they didn't drop it yet on RU-vid. He beat Big K, lost to T Top even though he had better bars, just stumbled a lot....Beat Verb and lost to Calicoe....Killed Hollow, Dose, Suge, Hitman Holla, Dizaster, Pat Stay, ILL Will, Snake Eyez, and Real Deal. He beat Charlie Clips also. And Tha Saurus, has a debatable with Serous Jones. He's a legend in this shit. Let's not forget T Rex and Iron Soloman also. He is one of the fathers of URL....
Surf be hating to but I know why he finally respected before he went to jail he wasn’t nothing or in nobody top five he trying to keep the ones that a smoke him out the game like MOOK but he can’t back in the days he couldn’t fuck nobody he was bottom tier now he not that just the truth all battle rapper hate they hate in the bars they say