MATRIX SUBMERGED - BOMB FISHING with Jamie Hughes 

These are just absoutle gold, when we have arguably the best commercial fisherman in the country and he's getting lessons learnt and eye openers how can we not learn from this. Also kudos to Jamie as he's no ego at all some top guys might not want to be seen as a fool. Jamie just loves it and learns..... Hats off to the Hughes'

Great video again, yes distance over water is shocking also the bread. I’d live to see a video on feed in rivers to see how far it actually travels depending on the bait and then additives to ground bait to make it sink and when fish feed over ground bait or bait via a dropper does that then move down stream, maybe mark pollard at the embankment in Bedford

I was gripped for the whole hour, very interesting and what an angler Jamie is!

You should look at maggots and how far they move when loose fed. Even if fed tight in a pile i feel live maggots can move into a 5m square after a few mins of crawling about

Really interesting like being at school watching Jamie Hughes 👍 your vidz help a lot thanks mate

Very interesting. Giles Cochrane was using heavy leads and short hook lengths years ago and he used to empty venues.

Brilliant again lads. Rob, I could listen to you for hours! Great footage. Jamie, your casting sickens me. 😒

16:05 min in , what an eye opener .

The accuracy of that is incredible! I honestly would not of believed that was possible until watching this video. Top man, well done!!

That has just destroyed my bomb fishing, in open water I think I will have to rely on a method feeder and only use the bomb if I am fishing to a feature, for catapulting bait with any kind of accuracy. If Jamie struggled to get it right, then I have not got a chance. Tremendous video, thanks so much for opening my eyes to how far away we can be fishing from our freebies. Mind seriously BLOWN.

Thanks Rob and Jamie you really are taking our match knowledge to new depths.🧜‍♂️🌊🤿

Maybe match fishing needs to have a cross over from the carp anglers when it comes to bomb fishing. PVA bags or nets or baiting up with cage feeders prior the the bomb.

Love this video really helpful..I'd like to see a submerged on a deep ish venue with ground bait to see what the spread is like how it breaks down and to see if how far it spins away from where you pot it in..

Wow that's an eye opener especially the bread

The result is that I ask myself what else I still do wrong or didn't thought about well enough to understand what happens under the surface. That is my big eyeopener. Thank both of you for your effort to show us and for this great video !

Jamie’s casting accuracy is just incredible - no wonder he wins as much as he does

What an eye opener that was the length of time 18 seconds for the pellets to reach the bottom in 8ft how Jamie's pellets he fed never went near his Hook bait the faster a 6m would fall over a 8m pellet and the bread which I always thought would pop up off the bottom just amazing what I've learnt thanks Jamie, Rob, and matrix.👍

wow what a brilliant education totally amazed thanks Rob Jamie and Matrix Team

These are the best fishing / match fishing videos by far, the way both you guys combine with excellent analysis and expertise is just brilliant - keep them coming please. In terms of new ideas for filming, footage of feeding fish taking bait shallow and different rigs? Clay Pit crystal clear in summer?

Brilliant video matrix well done, love all my matrix gear 😎🤪

I can't find the words, this is extremely good. Good discussion, good analysis and great honesty. THANK YOU.

You two guys are fantastic, well done.

Brilliant. Rebranded matrix pva bags coming our way soon then lol !

This is where a marker float comes into it with carp fishing. For baiting and casting

Just finished expander pellet on the bomb. Cheers for that, had a great days fishing.

Very informative

I find that if you pick a far bank marker and fully extend your arm holding the catty and pull the pouch bit back to your chest you can be pretty accurate with your pellets.

Absolutely fantastic. Very interesting. Learnt alot. Thanks very much lads.

I feel live a small pva bag may be the way, loose feed to draw them in then a concentration of pellets around the hook?

Brilliant insight. This will no doubt improve myn and my sons fishing. Thank you for making such informative videos.

Oh yeah Rob, you are still Jamie's PB after he nailed you in the finger 😂👍

Casting as tight as a shoe box, I can’t cast as accurately as a shoe shop 😂

Yeah definitely feeders on rivers .

Brilliant educational video guys, take my hat off to you both. Thank you 👍

Looking forward to it guys...

Great video jamie was very interesting thank you to all involved for this insight

Brilliant, absolutely loved it, thanks lads

This series is getting more interesting with each episode. Regarding the spread of pellets, I thing there are several contributing factors. Please allow me;- The way the pellets are loaded in the pouch can be the first thing to be considered, although I can't see that having too much impact on how they land. For achieving accurate launching, we would have to look at how army chopper launch multiple missiles. They are all facing the exact same way, and are the exact distance from the exit point. We can't get that with a humble 'pult. The next thing is how the pellets actually move in flight. This is complete chaos, they twist and turn all over the place and only heading roughly in the same direction. That's because although the appear the same as each other, when we look closer, there are enough differences to affect the aerodynamic properties rendering each one different from the last in the air. Another factor is how the pellets make first contact with the water, they wall be spinning at differing rates of spin, and at varying angles, thus affect their individual trajectory before they even begin to sink. And the final factor is as the pellets wouldn't fly true because the little nuances that make them all different, will also affect the way they fall through the layers . Am I making sense? That brings mw to my next point. Would it by an idea to try "tea bags" to assist with better grouping? I was thinking that a PVA mesh may well melt whilst still falling through 8 or more feet of depth, there by giving a small spread on the deck, and of cousre, the hook bait just a few inches away. (Depending on hook length). Just an idea or two, I'm not trying to preach science, only throwing a bit of logic in the mix.

Awesome, a proper eye opener 👍🏻

Another great video, these are videos are imo the best videos you can watch as it the only way to understand what you think is happening v reality. Please keep them coming.

I think the bread didnt stay up was because jamie compressed the bread punch against his finger pushimg air out. If you thoow a piece of bread flake in water it floats, compress it, it sinks. Just a thought, good accuracy though jamie

Awesome Guy's thank you both very much, some surprising outcomes there, especially with the spread of the pellets. Looks totally different from the bank. Might just have a try with some different pouches to try and see what effect it has on the grouping. Once again thanks lads.

Amazing stuff great to watch!!

Maggot feeder next please as I do not think it does what people imagine

Ok just watched it , just amazing I’m stunned 😳

Cogs are turning. Catapulting bait is essential to attract fish, with noise and bait falling through water. But the wide spread isn’t concentrating enough to get the best of our pegs. Maybe, a floating feeder/ mini spod will be a new match aid to concentrate the feed. Literally, acting like a pole pot.

Feeder on rivers. Whats happening with the feed and is it really worth having a long hook link especially if there's barbel around

Absolutely loved this episode, Great work lads!

Absolutely great vid lots of information loved it l am not a great fisherman but one point I would like to pick up on is would a bit of tungsten putty just behind the hook Wound that work as a pop-up with the bread with the half bollie on top

Brilliant

Excellent video Rob and Jamie, could you look at bomb and small PVA bag, could it more accurate with feed than a catapult?

Awestruck. Got to know what is the process with the expanders,would very much like to give that a try please.💓

That were very interesting. Can you do one with the pellet feeder.

Brilliant and informative video

Well done guys, always interesting

Hi Jamie , Rob . with the 12in hook length have you thought about using silcone tubing to kick your hook length away from your lead .. from your swivel towards hook length , we use this in sea fishing to kick the hook length away from are lead

Great stuff , as an ex infantry (para) - I've always thought of loose feed by hand or catapult as an "area weapon" as the feed is gonna disperse , as one gent mentioned below , sticking pellets and also sweetcorn together could be one idea to improve grouping , there might be some mileage in looking at pouch design for 'pults , PVA bags and mesh may not be practical for match anglers ???? - casting accuracy awesome - that's why those top boys are at the top !.

Awesome as always . 💪🏻💪🏻

really interesting as always folks and well presented. it would have been interesting to see the catapulted bait spread via a drone to get a real sense of distance

Well that opened my eyes, old dog learned new tricks, need a new cunning plan baldrick!!

Biggest eye opener ever, unbelievable camera work and casting, shame about the feeding Jamie, haha. shocked about the bread on the lead. looking forward to more of the same.

Great video, was wondering if the bread had been squashed down too much and may have been better not as compact and possibly with a lighter hook at Jamie suggested.

Great video very informative ....

Brilliant once again boys, my question would be to look at a different design to the catapult pouch as the grouping was obviously so sporadic! Maybe even the types of elastic?

This is golddust. Did that carp look like a seal to anyone else?

Haven’t watched it yet it’s on at 8 but I just no it’s going to blow me away

Great video lads! 🍻

Cracking as usual, strange with the bread not popping up, I did an under water popped up bread video for my channel and 2 disks was enough to pop it up but I did use a different hook pattern and size, so I guess it's worth testing it in your sink at home before fishing it.......

So from now on...no more long hook links (thank god) , anything over 12" just hinders quick bite detection and lowers the chance of hooking up. Use an in-line bolt rig if you can get away with it. Add a small PVA bag of pellets to the hook and spray a small pouch of pellets over the top to 'ring the dinner bell' before you chuck. Use a stand out hook bait....either a red pellet or a larger bait or both. Maybe add a bit of extra attraction like some 'Goo'. Stick to using 6mm pellets when catapulting over the top so that get to the bottom fast if the range and conditions will let you.....leaving your stand-out hookbait with more 'hang time' in the bite zone. Put this all together and you should have more bait in a smaller area....and your hook pellet maybe the first thing they grab. Definately giving this a try. Oh and start on the bomb first and then try the pellet waggler second rather than the other way round. Its kind of ironic...if I think about the way I fish for big Carp..then doing all these things is a lot like accurately spodding and putting a high attraction boiliie hook bait right in the middle of that baited area. If you could fish this way it could probably work in a similar manner to fishing the method or hybrid feeder. Adding a PVA bag gives a concentrated mouthful of bait in a small area. Each bag you put in area adds more attraction. You could use a pellet-like wafter as a hook bait too. Critically balanced hookbaits are always good for me on the method.

Great video and very interesting 👍 would have liked to see a wafter as a hook bait aswell just to see how that reacted on the bottom, maybe idea for next time 👍👍

How about a Matrix Submerged video on the slow sinking feeder showing fall rates of the feed micro's and how loose feed 4mm pellets get affected by the current in deeper water. Hayton Lakes at Retford, Notts, is a great venue. It's deep and stuffed with mad F1's that respond to the slow sinker.

To stop the spread being too far would it be worthwhile trying the equivalent of a stickymag type approach, binding the pellets together into a ball but with a substance that allows them to easily break apart on hitting the water?

Great video guys, I'd like to see the difference in bite indication on the tip when using mono or braid.

great vid lads

Awesome video would of liked to see how the pellets spread with different catapult's and not so many in the pouch👍

Jamie, would it be helpful to stand up to fire your catapult so it’s easier to see where they land better. It’s been great watch thank you

Another great video, but what an eye opener I was surprised about the bait spread, maybe it’s time we used the tea bag method more often, the bread was a shock all this time we thought we were fishing popped up bread, I had my suspicions because I’ve often brought bits of weed back but now I know what happened looks like I’m going to put a sliced white pop up in between the bread, It would be nice to do a feature on the river with loose feeding over balled in gb and how a bait dropper works or not?

Great video would love some natural venues

Very interesting. Pellet shape could be causing the inconsistent grouping issues, if pallets were totally round I'm sure the grouping would be much better ???

Great video to watch but would like to see pellets sinking when really windy with a strong tow to see how they sink to see if there anywhere near the bomb

Great video - Watched several times!! A thought in addition to the vast amount of information shared - would a helicopter rig with short twisted loop to kick out the pellet/hook length from the lead have advantages over a running ledger ?

and the cage feeder too.

over here in the US... chumming isn't legal most places.. if you can cast accurately, pack bait over time will give you amazing results.. pack bait is widely underestimated on y'all side of the world...

Very interesting video. For a more accurate group of pellets, maybe a changed shape of catapult pouch i.e. narrow/longer funnel shape?

Really surprised how the anglers view of casting into the loosefeed was so off, designated distance feed pults needed maybe?, like the groundbait ones used by slider anglers. Loved the bonus bread bit at the end, but was hoping you were going to top and tail two discs of bread with two discs of crust ( how i do it lol). Shall have to do a test now :) . Some canal an river content with roach ,bream etc would be nice to see.

Great video. Always seemed batshit crazy how everyone says "a lead sinks at roughly a foot per second". And literally everyone used to say this. Its absurd how unscientific or thoughtless so many anglers approach is. It's why someone a bit smarter and more thoughtful than average like Jamie is able to dominate. But how is it that he has never dropped his bread rig in the margins to see if it is popped up or not! There are so many things in angling that are are so obviously wrong but theyve just been repeated so many times that everyone accepts them as facts.

Great piece of camera and film work done by all the team and what an eye opener for us all. You wanted some questions and the one i have always wanted to know does the shape of paste matter to the extent that it sits in the right position and how long does some constancy last??

sorry only just seen this so if its still being monitored feeding on flowing waters.I know its probably too tricky to do but that would be fantastic.

Maggot fishing on the pole. How long does it take for them to settle? what’s the footprint like on the bottom? are they eaten before they get to the bottom? Do they wriggle away or into the silt?

Would using a different hook link material like braid or fluorocarbon (which i never see any match man use, why?) make a difference, and would the tea bag approach work better.

Catapult accuracy is difficult to many variables, especially with different weights of bait ,wind length of pull, making every pull slightly different.

Hi from NZ, the catapult should be let go just before the target as comes up to it. That is according to my shotgun experience. If a shot gun is shot at the target you will always miss.

If you were trying to concentrate your feed on a dinner plate it might be worth damping your feed pellet and lightly squeezing them into a ball before catapulting to minimise the spread? Accuracy is still going to be a massive problem though

Maybe float fishing maggots. How they fall and best shot patterns

Great video and really helpful! Question: instead of feeding pellets with the catapult, why not using soluble bags filled with pellets? Thank you in advance for your answer.

Hi both of you great the best information. Can you do some think on thermal layers or do they exist in under water depths less than 6ft plus why hasn’t somebody come up with a graph on the depth to fish in to the temperature and times of the year.

Gripped to the video. I even shouted at the wife when dared to interrupt. Id love to see feeding natural baits maggots pinkies etc using pole. I.e potting bait and catapulted feeds.

another thought - did Jamie drag the bomb back at all to straighten the hook link? I don't think he likes to do that, but it would have been interesting to see if the hook get's masked at all

Thorght hook length was good .when it did hit the weed the bait sat on the top . Shorter hook length would of buried it . Just my thoughts.

Great video very informative got me wondering are you better to feed with PVA bags and are they effective in cold water