Matt Mercer's Chroma Conclave QuickTime Event - Vox Machina, Ep. 40 - Critical Role Demystified

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Vox Machina licks their wounds, and an ally reveals added dimension to the threat they face… which ties this adventure into the backstories of a few characters.
CW: Strong language
Chapters:
00:00 - Recap: Still Not Out of the Woods
02:03 - Lesson: Revealing Names Too Early
03:16 - Lesson: Someone Needs to Be the First to Retreat
04:59 - Lesson: Name Reveal, Part Deux
06:30 - Lesson: The Chroma Conclave Arc Finally Begins
11:51 - Lesson: Trust is Required for In-Character Conflict
25:15 - Lesson: This is Personal… (But Could It Have Been More Personal?)
34:38 - Lesson: The Scale of the Problem
38:47 - Outro
You can watch the full episode here:
Episode 40 - Desperate Measures
• Desperate Measures | C...
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The Complete Skull Debate:
1:48:40 - 2:26:20
It’s What My Character Would Do: • "It's What My Characte...
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@SupergeekMike 8 месяцев назад

What’s your favorite part of this very intense episode?

@trealosgaming3345 6 месяцев назад

I loved Keyleth going off on the party.

@lokilucario Месяц назад

" SHUT UP PERCY!! " 😂😂😂

@blakemiller7727 8 месяцев назад

That “simple man looking for a simple solution to a complex problem” line stuck with me for years it’s such a good line

@stingerjohnny9951 3 месяца назад

It’s a good way of showing why a low intelligence is bad in this sort of situation without talking down to the character (any more than saying “sorry dude, but you ARE pretty dumb”) Its not just that Grog isn’t smart, it’s that he’s hot headed and eager to protect Pike and his friends. So he’s willing to take what seems like an easy way out an ignore any possible consequences.

@wolfox7776 8 месяцев назад

"Do not go far from me." That's not a bad sign at all.

@TheKristina1978 8 месяцев назад

Ik your quoting Vax but for a moment I though you were quoting the fan song called, Far From Me, it’s good

@stingerjohnny9951 7 месяцев назад

@@TheKristina1978 Same dude just did a similar song for Grog

@mkang8782 8 месяцев назад

"Welcome to the new story arc." I really appreciate that Matt does this; not just because it helps solidify things for the players, but, also because it allows him to convey a little bit of his own excitement for what's coming.

@player_lorde5078 8 месяцев назад

I read it when he was talking

@yannlimarodrigues 8 месяцев назад

I also like that it conveys the idea of hope. A new story arc, not the end. The party did not fail. They are presented with a terrible situation, but this is just the beginning, and they can win.

@TheLordofMetroids 8 месяцев назад

Speaking of slipping names, you ever have that moment where you describe a disguised character as "The Doppelganger," or something to that effect? It creates a real akward silence for about 5 seconds.

@SupergeekMike 8 месяцев назад

Ugh yeah not that exact example but something close, 100%

@canadian__ninja 8 месяцев назад

Honestly that's something to do on purpose. When there isn't a doppleganger in the room. Take that, metagamers!

@Harlizarrd 8 месяцев назад

I love how this is such a common experience, especially since 90% of these are gonna be from new DM's running Lost Mines of Phandelver. Ask me how I know!

@uli11 8 месяцев назад

@@canadian__ninjai know youre being goofy, but realistically this is a great way to damage the trust you have with your players. So yeah, a momentary win against the metagamers, but then you have players who dont trust your storytelling and therefore struggle to have fun/become immersed in the story. Better to just... be direct and call out metagaming.

@C4LLM3AN1MAL 8 месяцев назад

"So, The Oni-" "The what?" "The barkeep, what did you think I said?" "......" "...Oh...."

@joshricks1273 8 месяцев назад

The debate Grog and Percy had is one of the few moments I wish they kept in the animated show. I completely understand why they didn't put it in, but it's one if my favorite moment of C1.

@SupergeekMike 8 месяцев назад

Hard same. I don’t miss it from the momentum of the narrative, I don’t think it’s necessary, it’s just one of those moments I wish I could’ve seen adapted ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@stingerjohnny9951 7 месяцев назад

@@SupergeekMike Well, that’s what makes the animated series not a replacement, but a supplement to the campaign. We will always have cool moments just from the campaign.

@onepebbleofmany 8 месяцев назад

The "BUT I FIGURED IT OUT!!!" cracked me up good. So relatable.

@BigKlingy 8 месяцев назад

12:38 This was a great way for Matt make sure the player didn't feel like they "wasted" a high-level spell. Bolstering the spirits of the refugees is something that feels good, both for the players and their characters. "A simple mind looking for a simple solution to a complex problem" is one of my all-time favourite Matt descriptions. It just sums up Grog in that moment, and... Grog in general, so well. I always thought that when the party though the attack was their fault, they meant because they killed Brimscythe. At the time, they weren't sure Krieg was a villain, he only attacked because they were looting his hoard.

@ChaosMind10531 8 месяцев назад

It really built Grog's character for me... He is not the typical dum dum character... It shows that he can be really proactive in thinking or looking for solutions... And this is the most immediate and for him that makes sense... Wish the problem away because they can't beat it up...

@BigKlingy 8 месяцев назад

@@ChaosMind10531 Yeah. As much as he's REALLY not thinking through the consequences right now, Grog is at least being proactive in trying to solve the problem. And there are times when that's exactly what VM needs.

@ChaosMind10531 8 месяцев назад

@@BigKlingy I noticed this is the tendency of Travis... When the group gets stuck in making a decision or something... Most of the time he would be the one who would prod to make them act or take action...

@mtheoryx83 8 месяцев назад

Travis with the "gotta go". The alarm fingers became iconic for the next 8 years.

@silviadragoness5904 8 месяцев назад

So much amazing roleplaying in this episode. And the cast's reactions when the revelations start dropping. It's all just _perfect._ I particularly like how Liam and Laura have basically the same reaction to hearing that Thordak is the one who destroyed Byroden as Talesin had to hearing that the Briarwoods were coming to Emon; just that look of "Oh. _Oh._ Oh _shit."_

@Anonymous_Individual 8 месяцев назад

“Do not look away. You witness a king’s revival, and the birth of his new world!”

@Xyphyri 8 месяцев назад

Ahh. My favorite Demon King Thordak quote

@athenaraines 2 месяца назад

@@XyphyriI thought it was Cinder King Suavamente

@xxliew 8 месяцев назад

i like that it's not their fault because main character syndrome can be annoying when player characters think the world revolves around them and i loved that there were all sorts of other factors at play! the world feels much more well-realized rather than an experience that's solely tailored to a player's hero fantasies. i think the story is much stronger the way matt designed it.

@briannenurse4640 8 месяцев назад

I think the party enjoyed playing with the idea that the chroma conclave was their fault, but I'm not sure I agree that they actually wanted it to be that way. It makes a lot of sense that the characters would worry it was their fault, but it also makes sense that in the grand scheme of things, they're actually taking the blame for something they had no real part in. That feels so much more true to life for me. It's not as dramatic, true, but it's more authentic IMO.

@DeeEll1 8 месяцев назад

One time I accidentally referred to an NPC that had introduced himself as Robin by his real name, Steve, and that accidentally spoiled the fact that he was Wizard Steve, the NPC Ally that the players had been looking for

@airey8731 8 месяцев назад

I really love that Travis just eat while everyone goes into character

@stingerjohnny9951 6 месяцев назад

That’s him being in character 😜

@SummerOtaku 8 месяцев назад

Love that Percy & Grog stand off so much! I’ve only seen the cartoon and random clips of this arc so I had no idea this was a thing. The fact they are both touched by darkness and Grog brought it to Percy to almost have touched by darkness chit chat and probably to get his input on the wording of the wish…and then to suddenly ratchet up to 11 - amazing! In my head picturing Percy face down an angry Goliath like this really ups his cool factor no matter how many times Tailsen rips on him. Grog accusing Percy of not being trustworthy and going to do something with it is such malarkey considering what Grog immediately tries to do. 😅

@JukkaliMx 8 месяцев назад

It's just that Percy and Grog are, in some regards, antithesis of each other: Percy is a noble-born intellectual with unending curiosity; while Grog is a low-intelligence barbarian who spent his life fighting for everything he had, and rushes into everything. The thing they have in common is that both their players take joy in pursuing those personalities to their own detriment, at times; and both Taliesin and Travis enjoy a bit of chaos with their D&D xD

@stingerjohnny9951 6 месяцев назад

@@JukkaliMx And it provides such an interesting dynamic with their other characters in the second campaign (hard to go into details without spoilers lol).

@ReverseUnicorn 8 месяцев назад

You should definetely make a whole video about mature IC fighting and what to a void.....

@lukerazer9565 8 месяцев назад

This!

@Quintzal 8 месяцев назад

One thing I learned when this type of situation unfolded at the table is that, even when the players understand that the conflict is between their characters, the players can experience a real adrenaline rush that can raise temperatures if they aren't used to it. When Marisha goes into her conversational rage, the actor in her is emoting in a way that can produce a response in the player as well as the character. The way the amygdala works during these times has a real and detrimental impact on a person's ability to reason and receive language. If the situation gets to that point, it's better to take a break to let everyone cool off than to try to have a 'teachable moment' while tempers flare.

@Stephen-Fox 8 месяцев назад

@@Quintzal Indeed, and that's the sort of thing that can result in bleed.

@danidm5820 8 месяцев назад

@@Quintzal Honestly, as somebody who still thinks the whole "Critical Role makes players worse and creates bad expectations" argument is absolutely wrong... this is the one element I think could cause that problem. If you watch this scene, you can forget that every single person at the table is an actor, AKA someone who makes a living by separating their own emotions from the emotions of their characters, and is quite good at doing it. A new player, or a player who is not used to this kind of scene, could think this is the way you are supposed to play inter-party conflict, and cause issues when things end up getting heated between players. ... which is why I also agree we need that video about inter-party conflict ASAP, by the way...

@MelonTartVA 8 месяцев назад

I love that you're using screenshots from the animated series. Also, you gotta love how Laura and Marisha look terrified as the red dragon speaks.

@timfortune9 8 месяцев назад

It's very simple, but the skull debate does feature one of my favorite Vax moments: when he asks the thing it's name and it gives the "It's been so long" answer, I love how his reply is "Right, go fuck yourself" and dropping the covering back on it. As well as Matt describing Grog's reasoning for wanting to use the skull as "A simple mind looking for a simple solution to a complex problem".

@YuubiTimberwolf 8 месяцев назад

Trinket oly falling unconscious after being hit by the icev breath is such a nice and logical gestures. Being a bear, which hibernate and can handle the cold easily. It also would ruin the game for Laura incredible much since 5e nerfed Beast Master Rangers.

@donb7519 8 месяцев назад

Is the ability to easily rez them only revised ranger then

@NerdOManyThings 8 месяцев назад

@@donb7519 Yeah, in the original 5e version you just go into the wilderness and get another animal to replace them. Totally misses the main reason most people are drawn to that subclass imo, the revised version is way better.

@LyraLyraPantsOnFyra 8 месяцев назад

Regarding censoring the names of villains, we the players generally end up giveing unit types goofy nicknames lile "stealthy bastards" or "flamey bois" or more often than not "the big guy"

@dm_dude 8 месяцев назад

Guacamole

@trently89 8 месяцев назад

now i wonder what would've been revealed about the skull if someone would've cast legend lore on it

@lefterismplanas4977 8 месяцев назад

My favourite part in the episode was them escorting everyone out of the town using Kielyth's Transport, and then sending them as refuges to the place that they had just before liberated. Whitestone

@lefterismplanas4977 8 месяцев назад

It's definitely not form this episode. But one part that I keep remembering, is when they get the chance to loot this red Dragon's horde, and They ask something like "How much gold is there. To that then, Mat answered "How much gold or platinum do you want ?"

@SummerOtaku 8 месяцев назад

Excellent episode! Vex in particular must have been going through it! Almost losing Trinket, the potential guilt, grog gunning for her potential boyfriend then brother, and then learning this is the dragon that killed her mom. Oh man!! The tension was so great, good thing Allura was there when she was you could just see Vox Machina ripping themselves apart under the pressure on what to do.

@Idontgiveaduck 8 месяцев назад

Its funny this episode of CR was the first one i ever saw and i remember thinking that Laura was basicly me at any table when my pet got hurt. This is gonna push me to go back and watch it again

@jmarquiso 8 месяцев назад

I think the responsibility issue takes away from there being a larger world and villains having their own agency. As it stands, Elora and vox machina share some blame, but obviously Thordak was the driving force, a plan in place for a long time. Krieg infiltrated Imans leadership, Vox happened to stumble across that fact, which generated motivation for a future plot. I think it's better it isn't their fault. This is an issue with MCU movies - the dramatically satisfying arc puts responsibility on the hero, but this lead to a future where a lot of disasters are the Avengers' fault. The same could happen to Vox Machina if they end up responsible for this disaster.

@l0stndamned 8 месяцев назад

Did that name-slip thing just last night. Said zombie goblin instead of goblin bandit when the players hadn't realised undead were involved. Thankfully the cleric was missing.

@thissitenamedmethis 8 месяцев назад

I was not expecting a one shot podcast reference. That's a name I haven't heard in a long time.

@Malkuth-Gaming 8 месяцев назад

A powerful Gith Entity trapped inside a skull.. hmm. Where have I seen that recently *hint hint, nudge nudge*

@hadesblackplays 8 месяцев назад

i'm running a wildemount post mighty nein campaign and one of my players backstory involves his undead brother trying to release desirat and now i have an idea on how to run it when it happens. Thanks, mike! awesome episode as always!

@PaulGuy 8 месяцев назад

I see the point about making the attack the fault of the party, but I don't necessarily agree. That's part of the story device where the world revolves around the characters. By not doing that, the world becomes a much larger place, where things happen outside the characters' influence. I think he tied it to the characters' stories just enough to make it personal, but also keep the world moving outside their vision. Vex, Vax, and Keyleth all had personal connections to Thordak's actions, without those actions waiting around for the party to trigger them like a lazily coded video game. Of course, this is a personal preference, but my players like the fact that the world happens beyond their sight, and things can change because of their actions, or because of someone else's. But GMs should go with what works for their table. Good analysis though, and I'm surprised I wasn't subbed already. Time to rectify that.

@Callimachus33 8 месяцев назад

As I was listening to you, "Your Fault" from "Into the Woods" popped into my mind 😅

@CLNCJD94 8 месяцев назад

Did Matt ever discuss what the consequences of using the Gith skull would have been? I’m genuinely curious what that plot line would have taken.

@ProphetOfTruth_ 8 месяцев назад

Yes he revealed that in the post campaign wrap up/Q&A. I can share it here if you’d like

@CLNCJD94 8 месяцев назад

@@ProphetOfTruth_ go ahead! I’d love to know more Information.

@ProphetOfTruth_ 8 месяцев назад

@@CLNCJD94 copy and paste from the CR wiki “Vox Machina found a githyanki skull in General Krieg's home. They learned that a githyanki was trapped in a jewel embedded in a skull. It promised to grant a wish to them if they released him. Matt revealed after the campaign concluded that the spirit trapped in the skull was that of a brutal githyanki pirate captain imprisoned generations ago. Had anyone agreed to free him, their souls would have exchanged places, with the captain taking over the body of his liberator, whose spirit would have been then trapped in the skull. The githzerai who had imprisoned the pirate would then have begun hunting him down.” Definitely a really cool sounding side story that we missed out on but probably for the best since having that happen literally right as the chroma conclave arc was beginning would have led to somewhat messy storytelling.

@thedootlord 8 месяцев назад

11:48 to quote mittinsquad "this is where the real game begins"

@wminster 8 месяцев назад

For years I've always used the bandit captain stat block for my first battles a lot, especially in beginner situations, because it's a good fight but pretty simple. It got so bad with me accidentally saying bandit captain that now, for tradition, the first canon fight of my campaigns is a bandit captain.

@lefterismplanas4977 8 месяцев назад

Its such and impressive moment when Mat has the red dragon announce that the protectors of this city are at fault, and deceive his player in thinking that he's talking about them. It's such a clever move and Im completely loving it. I also understand that the players wanted this to be their fault, but I suspect that Mat was a bit blind sighted here and wanted only to give them the correct information. He wasn't quite role-playing with them as much as he was informing them. As you said, he wants them to understand the situation correct in ordere for them to a they way they want without mistakes. And they need to see the whole picture to do that. In that moment with Alura. Mat was mainly trying to give them the correct information and make sure that they received it,role playing was a side act, not the main thing, so he wasn't paying attention to the fact they they wanted to be in fault for this

@tibeeriuswolf3669 8 месяцев назад

An additional reason why the party had good reason to think they were responsible (albeit a more meta one): In the previous episode, Matt interrupted Travis's turn to explicitly narrate Vex's internal thoughts, including connecting their present situation with a memory of "four orbs embedded in a wall". Totally understandable that the players would think they were responsible when the DM interjects to connect their past and present experiences like that. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9EToAf4nhDw.htmlsi=m40kYjpJfcvg6ehr&t=12991

@Skip6235 8 месяцев назад

The previous episode I think has the best scene of any episode of campaign 1, or even Critical Role entirely, but this episode start to finish is my favorite of Campaign 1. It is so good. The tension through the whole thing is excellent

@protagonist-kunspersona5860 8 месяцев назад

The Percy Vs. Grog scene remains one of my favorite Vox Machina scenes

@Harlizarrd 8 месяцев назад

I paused to go watch the clip when you gave the time codes, I definitely had a different read on the insight check. It'd be pretty crazy if he casually rolled double 20s and didn't say anything, so I was thinking he might have given them a silent boost since it's obvious both of them are talking with conviction, essentially Pass Without Trace but applied to their persuasion (?) checks against Vex.

@JackFarrell2299 8 месяцев назад

Wouldn't that be how the teleportation circle spell works? I guess i always understood it as she got a bad feeling and decided to come back to Emon but she knew they were severed because when she tried to use them the spell failed

@Peter_Cordes 8 месяцев назад

At one point while talking to the party, she says "I just lost my connection to Westruun". What you're describing (no info until you try and it fails) is how most people would assume the spell works, rules-as-written, because the sigil sequence is something you only use while casting the spell. It's a code. The spell description doesn't say anything about being mystically linked to it, it's just information you memorize. But that can't explain her realizing that she lost her connection to Westruun while not in the middle of casting Teleportation Circle.

@JackFarrell2299 8 месяцев назад

@@Peter_Cordes i just assumed she did attempt to cast it and just didn't specifically say that

@mistaree8394 8 месяцев назад

Please talk about how to handle "fun" in game character conflict. Almost everytime I have been involved in this it has turned awkward but it is also a reasonable expectation to come up.

@damned0wl 9 дней назад

I always assumed that the teleportation circles Allura felt breaking were the ones she created herself, not just memorized

@elisamac8227 8 месяцев назад

I'm loving these, both for the lessons learned and the recaps, since it's been literal years (gosh I'm old) since I've seen these episodes of CR and 20min of plot points and highlights is way better than the hundreds of hours to rewatch everything. Great job

@Cassapphic 8 месяцев назад

I fairly recently started getting into critical role and this came out the day I got to this episode, great timing even if I will (probably) go at a faster rate than these videos, knowing I can watch them without fear of spoilers or whatever is great.

@nay-knee7779 8 месяцев назад

Chroma Conclave=PERFECT DnD

@alexanderklein5020 8 месяцев назад

The visual of the dragon fight in this episode- just parts of its anatomy descending through the fog cloud, concealing how massive it really is- is such a cool visual I'm a bit disappointed it didn't make it into the animated series. Probably wouldn't have fit the scene's pacing. And the back half of the episode is just incredible. I love just seeing the cast react in-character to everything that's been lost, especially the twins with their mother and Keyleth with Pyrah.

@AdThe1st 8 месяцев назад

I always look forward to these videos and they never disappoint, great vid as always 👏

@TakeWalker 8 месяцев назад

what a nice, crunchy dive video :D and a vid about any of those player conflict issues would be great!

@vi8440 8 месяцев назад

“travis is good at intiating retreat” me: *remembering a white dragon fight from a distant campaign* me: or starting a fight

@nickischilling 8 месяцев назад

SuperGeekMike as my morning RU-vid video instead of my post lunch video was not a treat I was expecting :D but now I have no idea what I’ll watch after lunch! XD

@SupergeekMike 8 месяцев назад

You could always watch it again :)

@SLorraineE 8 месяцев назад

Good morning! What a lovely thing to wake up to on such a gloomy, rainy early morning!

@bristowski 8 месяцев назад

This is a good channel. This is a good series. I like Mike.

@REfan1 8 месяцев назад

Apparently 20 seconds after the upload i saw this video, lets goooo~! Anyway, love this series and love your videos mike, keep at it my dude.

@manueltorresart2345 7 месяцев назад

Finally with time to catch up with the latest vids. From this episode I forgot about Grog and Percy stand-off and it was so fun. It's kind of rare because this kind of interactions between the players in the show it's rare, but it was so enjoyable.

@Pumpky_the_kobold 8 месяцев назад

omg. I havent watch this. I'm SO HAPPY you put that clip in there: That was some emotuional unloading from Marisha. Wow. I FELT it in my Bone. The anger, the sadness, the desperation and the (so relatable) tiredness of seeing how things could be better if just for one second people talked, and people listen. If people included you in. Wow. Great video again. Thank you so much for your work. I still have shivers. shit.

@chrisriley2321 8 месяцев назад

5 am post? YES PLEASE

@practicepositiveprogress5396 4 месяца назад

In our last big combat at my table we were fighting White hair, sword, and big guy. Those were the clear differences in the minis we were using and it made it much easier to make sure we were on the same page

@Feetareleghands 8 месяцев назад

Ahhh yes, the late night post every content creator must do in order to appease the RU-vid gods 😂

@under20over40 8 месяцев назад

Love the shout out to James D'Amato. He's great!

@theunfamousone2818 8 месяцев назад

I love the skull scene I was disappointed that it didn't make it into the animated series but I understand why, everything was just so tense and the infighting was great with the twins completely separating themselves from the group for that moment edit: that nat 1 could've changed the entirety of critical role in everyway

@BHicklin15 8 месяцев назад

Oo im excited about the character backround and canpaign planning around them videos. I've been thinking a lot about starting a new campaign and really pushing my players to make backgrounds that let them drive the plot forward. I think in the past, ive really shyed away from asking for backgrounds in order to not scare people off by making it feel like 'homework' and the games have suffered when nobody knows who their character is or why they would want to be involved in the story.

@RandallReverse 8 месяцев назад

Just woke up to a supergeekmike video, life is good.

@squidhat9323 8 месяцев назад

Still find if funny talisen was so confidant in 1v1ing grog in an enclosed space percy is strong but grows durability is intense

@Schramm456 5 месяцев назад

Is it ironic to say that Vox Machina, the main characters, really pushing for this all to be their fault kind of rubs off as....main character syndrome? What I like about Matt's style as a DM is his world exists, Vox Machina are just a very small part of it. Pretty much all of this campaign (including the pre-stream) they've stumbled into. They were asked to look into the disappearance of Kiva and "oh, there's an evil Beholder here," they drop off the delivery, happen to come upon a Hydra "oh, there's a monster hunting guild we've accidentally crossed" Even the Briarwoods arc, Percy wasn't part of their plans, he just happened to over hear Uriel mention their names and insert *himself* in it. I see the intriguing story directions this could take if it were their fault, but I feel like after the first two times you're told it's not your fault, you don't need to keep fishing.

@lukasfraser1411 8 месяцев назад

IS THAT HOW PERCY MADE THE SKULL DISAPPEAR. I swear I've never known how until now

@zero3045 6 месяцев назад

25:12 HA! Good luck finding that in campaign 1.

@JeffreyMcLain 8 месяцев назад

Thanks RU-vid for being the worst and not showing me these videos for a while now - HOWEVER! I'm back and it's good to stumble back into your corner of the internet =)

@TamTroll 8 месяцев назад

h'uh... i thought Grog being "touched by Darkness" was in reference to him having the power of Craven Edge with him. I'm guessing that helped at least.

@SupergeekMike 8 месяцев назад

That’s what I assumed at the time, and it might be what the skull meant/sensed, but Grog didn’t know at this point that Craven Edge was anything to worry about, so I’m assuming Grog meant the lich scar.

@stonedcorgi8250 8 месяцев назад

Holy fuck I’m awake for a post

@steegen101 8 месяцев назад

PLEASE go into further depth about PC conflict!!! My players love it narratively but none of us has the skill or experience with handling the frustrations that come with a genuine argument. Especially about a point that the characters truly would think and believe and take sides over. Session zero I heard "we should argue less" then session one we had to talk the fighter out of shooting the bard (in-game, of course). Advice for DMs about facilitating genuinely divisive PC interactions that we don't feel bad about later, and advice for players about how to argue what they really think in ways that don't cause any hurt feelings would be super appreciated

@SummerOtaku 8 месяцев назад

Would be super interested for a future video about player conflict. Doesn’t look like Matt did anything here specifically so he must trust them to be okay with the result? I mean the roleplay between each other and the situation feels like ‘the juice’ we roleplayers love but I have seen it ruin games before and even my local DM who is great made it clear in session zero that inter-party conflict wasn’t allowed. There has got to be a way to let the right kind of drama in 😅

@optimus2200 8 месяцев назад

the fact I didnt get why or how the twins new that thordac is the one who killed thier mother. seeing their reaction now .. give me chills that froz my nick ! those players man !!!! I really wish I could watch the expression of all the players all the time. and I wish I have the time to catch up with CR god darn it its been so long

@Marigold11037 8 месяцев назад

2:30 with naming your enemies differently to their real names, I ran into an issue with this in the last game I DMed I had a character who was the head of the bandit grouping attacking the party. I hadn't come up with a proper title for him, but he held the key for an important section of the game featuring a lot of useful loot and weapons for the party. He was also the only enemy with a shotgun (the setting was more modern) To counter this, I had "Bandits" and labelled him as "the bandit king" on paper. The only issue: the bandit king is the name of a villain in the Team Starkid musical Trail to Oregon Of course my table were all theatre nerds, so the result of my poor naming choice was that every time he took his turn, the table would stop combat and say "the bandit king" and mimic a section of the musical before continuing I wouldn't change a thing.

@n4l9bx 7 месяцев назад

Peak DnD XD

@FranklinLongallnitelong22 8 месяцев назад

As someone that is following Campaign 3...I see the creature in the skull as maybe Prodasos? (sp)...That would make sense with Matt's world building. Even if it wasn't back then...it could fit for now. Since he did make it unresolved.

@OccidentalAvian 8 месяцев назад

Predathos is a godlike entity sealed in the moon, this is was just a githyanki pirate whose soul was sealed in a gem and placed in his own skull by some rival githzerai.

@PyrotechNick77 8 месяцев назад

I just noticed, did not Scanlan pledge at the end with everyone else? I know Sam wasn't there but I don't think Matt as Scanlan took the agreement to slay the dragons and given what happens to him I'd say that's p poignant

@christopherpugnetti5827 8 месяцев назад

SHUT UP, PERCY! 😂😂😂

@thefollowingisatest4579 8 месяцев назад

I'm glad Matt stopped doing insight checks that way. I understand why someone might think that's a good idea, but on some level it ends with you speaking for a player to another player. Unless there is some shenanigans going on. The way he does it now feels way better, by having the player roll deception or persuasion and not say which and then ask them what they feel is revealed based on how good the insight check is.

@AlexDelux2500 8 месяцев назад

Do not go far from me.

@jamesnichols3519 3 месяца назад

I like to think of the domino effect of checks and balances of the world like the mind flayer colonies psionic abilities hamstrung the briarwoods vox ended the colony enabling the briarwoods to go ahead trying to summon Vecna, vox stopped that so there was nothing strong enough to challenge the chroma conclave vox stops that so now the nein have the ruby vanguard / lucien has freedom to make moves then Uko'toa the next thing and so on. All dominoes started from vox taking out a mind flayer hive brain. I mean in the alt universe where they didn't get involved the mind flayers vs vecna vs chroma conclave fucks the world but still at least lucien and ludinus would probably be toast (or hiding on the moon pumping up predathos to challenge the other super bosses).

@Paradox-es3bl 8 месяцев назад

I'd love to see your opinion on DC20 now that the alpha is out.

@keivonrush384 8 месяцев назад

When not sleeping pays off 😂

@TheAwsomeKing77 8 месяцев назад

2:30 I usually don’t write their name on the state sheet I’ll still mess this up

@geneglover3081 8 месяцев назад

If an opponent has a name or is an unknown type of creature, I try to give the PCs their name, unless there's a reason to keep that information from them. Knowing the dragon is named Vorugal doesn't give any metagaming advantage, and simplifies table conversation. Besides, anything that isn't given a specific name will be referred by my players as Fartboy, or something along those lines; that name will then stick, and the actual name will never be spoken again.

@roguevirus 8 месяцев назад

WHAT ARE THE FUCKING CHANCES?! 5%, Travis.

@SanderGoldman 8 месяцев назад

definitely agree that the chroma conclave should have been their fault at least partly. it always feels weird when the plot revolves around the Npcs but its the PCs that enact the resolution

@JeffStreamsThings 8 месяцев назад

19:40 - L-O-effing-L

@dragonmiko 8 месяцев назад

I actually hated that the party (especially keyleth) wanted this to be their fault. Placing blame doesn't solve things. I feel it leads to analysis paralysis and focusing on who's at fault takes away from real discussion of a solution. I honestly wanted to skip parts of this episode cause I found it so annoying. And Matt did a great job trying to get the players to let go of the blame every time they went that way cause they were so stuck on it. I feel it makes the world of Exandria more expansive and real if its not VM's fault. IRL things just happen.

@ErickFerraz2 8 месяцев назад

Yeah! I cringed all the way through that part. Talk about self-importance...

@Deadlyspark 8 месяцев назад

The problem with that viewpoint is that we as viewers have a distorted perspective on it. If we remember vox machina fought krieg on there own without any reason or cause previously and killed him, because he defended his hoard. As far as they know, it's their fault for taking him out, and as far as they know that only reason the other dragons knew is because they went back and triggered the orbs

@KristiansBrain 7 месяцев назад

I disagree on one point, I'd say Matt definitely fudged against Laura's insight role just because insight against other players is too awkward to run and the scene needed a lack of clarity to maintain momentum. That's what I would have done.

@Gurianthe 8 месяцев назад

I run a homebrew game and I work SO HARD for my players to feel that while they have influence over some events the world ultimately still functions aside of their actions having EVERYTHING tie back to The Shits feels inorganic and tropey, not everything has to be a result of their actions, other people in the world exist and also have an input in what happens in it I hated this episode because the martyr complex is really annoying. also, the overacting is pretty cringy; this is what happens when actors don't have directors that aside, really good analysis video! I have yet to find one of your videos I haven't enjoyed or gotten something out of