Can't believe it's been almost 10 years since this news first broke. I remember being out to eat somewhere in my hometown when the news broke and then going home & listening to the initial reports on ESPN & I was just in complete shock. I was at the last game Paterno coached (the snow game against Illinois) & even then I never saw this coming. I also was there when he won his 400th game. And in an instant. it seemed that none of it mattered anymore. I'm a VA Tech Hokies fan in an entire household of Penn State fans, so this was a notable, sad event for us as a CFB loving family.
Same too. I remember it well. I was my freshman year in high school and I could remember watching Dancing With the Stars with the family and I overheard my mom and older brother talking about an assistant coach at Penn State raping boys and I was like: “This can’t be Penn State?” And sure enough it was. The next when I was in intervention class with my brother and he was talking about it with the teacher who so happened to be my football coach and I talked about it with him and I said I thought it was a bunch of BS and the NCAA is like: “Now that we already bullied Ohio State long enough, who’s next on the list so that we can give Michigan a fighting chance at a national title let alone a Big 10 conference title?” Coach gave that are you kidding look and said “Do you know what that guy did? He should be shot” I didn’t know about the scandal well enough back then and looking back I feel very stupid for saying those remarks. And ever since the scandal, I’ve hated Penn State and every single thing about them to the core. Go Bucks
Matt Millen has nothing to apologize for. I've always respected him as a broadcaster, and now I respect him even more. His heart was truly broken for Sandusky's victims, and also for the damage done to coach Paterno and the Penn St program. He was honest, emotional, and truly horrified by the whole situation.
"He's been in my home", translates to, "he's been around my children". What a horrifying thing to realize, that this man, whom you consider a friend, is the *worst* kind of monster. Worse yet? He's been around *your* kids. I can't even imagine.
Matt Millen was obviously sickened and shocked by what Jerry Sandusky did. He was emotional. But his point was that even though it was an emotional issue, even for him, those emotions should not drive people to make other decisions. It was like when he said that part of him wanted to "take care of it" himself...he stepped back and said that doing so would be the wrong thing. Divorcing yourself of emotions when making decisions doesn't mean you can't have emotions. You just need to TEMPORARILY put those emotions aside and be rational.
Almost 10 years later as an Ohio State fan remembering tattoo gate around that time, I was shocked cause it was a respected program and thought it was just a bunch of sham. Looking back now I lost alot of respect and gained hatred for Penn State.
...you felt for this guys? The guy who cared way more for the Pedophile and the guy who knew about the Pedophile but decided to not report what he knew. He cared way more for them, so ummm what about the Victims?
good to see someone close to it who starts off trying to be fair when talking about something that there is nothing fair about but then has to get honest I hope the rest do that
I don't think Paterno was a monster or supported child sexual assault... but I cannot make an argument where he's not to blame in some way for enabling it to continue or not doing something to stop it. And it really is sad that many people in my state only want to argue about how Paterno is the victim here and shouldn't lose his god status when there is a list of abused kids who really are victims. Whatever we do, don't tear down a football deity by holding him accountable for his decisions or lack of action! He built a library! God status revoked, he's mortal.
Steve Parkin same here I doubt that he is a monster but he should’ve known what is going on you can’t be that idiotic to think that it’s not his place to know did he do the absolute minimal of what he’s supposed to do yes he should’ve went to the police first paterno would’ve have been a hero beyond what he was he would’ve been the biggest college sports hero of all time should Paterno be hated for what he did no should his greatness be questioned absolutely without a doubt
It took a while but there’s more facts & it turns out that Paterno didn’t know. The activist media created a narrative that hid some facts regarding his grand jury testimony. Matt Millen was right here.
@@Kevin-it4fh I think its one of those things where he probably did not want to believe it. Sandusky was a long time friend, etc. I know that I have at first rejected to believe certain things that seemed too impossible to be true before I finally accepted them. The difference is, the stuff that I had a hard time accepting was not on the level of child rape by a person that I was enabling, and secondly, I eventually accepted the truth. If one of my assistants reported what was reported to Paterno... "Well, I mentioned it once to somebody in charge and nothing came of it, so I did my part, now I'm just going to pretend it never happened" would not be good enough for me to absolve myself. It's a character test. At the end of the day, Joe Paterno is who had to live with this. I don't have to judge him, he judged himself. It obviously crushed him when the story broke. He probably wondered how football became so important that it wound up preventing him from doing the right thing. I doubt Joe Paterno would be okay with a statue honoring himself in light of what happened.
.. What Fleury wants to tell those boys in this Penn State tragedy - the ones who have come forward, the ones who are trying to summon the courage, the ones who are suffering alone, the ones whom we will never know about - is don't quit before the miracle.
I was referring to your post where your reply was "Bingo!" to the guy that wrote "...all the News channels are owned by one group of people". Mind explaining who is that "group" of people?
I love that in one breath, Millen is making excuses for Paterno and trying to cast doubt on the facts of the situation, then when asked about Sandusky, he says something to the effect of not being able to see it coming because he knew the guy so well. Compelling case there, Matty.
@AnneLiesveld You are missing the point, Paterno didn't follow up on what was being done with Sandusky, PERIOD. I'm not saying he performed these sex acts on kids himself but, he did very little to stop it.
This just sounds so legit too when you hear MM talking about He can't imagine JS that way. I thought I read online that MM has grown kids (probably closer to my age (32 in may) and I can imagine that must have been a wonderfully fun time for him to have to talk about this.
Caoch Paterno's conversation and action that should of come. Coach Sandusky I had a very terrible accusation brought against you and I have to call the Police and notify them of the allegations. I suggest you get an attorney and you are now put on leave as a coach and not allowed on campus until investigation is done. I pray that these thing s are not true and if they are may GOD have mercy on your soul and the boys who were violated.
Millen has probably broken down about this alot…the man basically grew up in the Penn St philosophy on the game and too see his idols go down the way they did destroyed him inside as it should of and we saw a little bit of it come out here…every player that played at Penn St from ‘70-‘05 probably feels the exact same way and it’s a damn shame alot of good players came out of Penn st during that period
@@CoolHandLuke813 Its cool...I literally just found out about all of this and I guess seeing how the Penn State Student body reacted to Paterno being Fired, and kind of just ignoring the Victim...i was like D@MN...but its good, stay blessed tho 🙏🏽
@nascarsignore Nascar: Appreciate the thoughts. While I struggle with watching MM defend his friends I realize it is a little bit different for MM in that he doesn't have to watch a video clip online to figure out how to get an awareness of how he feels about the situation he just knows it so I wholeheartedly agree with your thoughts. I believe he is sticking up for his friends-it isn't like JP and JS were people who he read about on some website. he slept in a dorm that they
@chuckfantastic THANK YOU FOR GETTING IT! :) I am realizing that I don't think anyone gets it that a person who was a 1978 football player can't really "rememeber" JP and JS as evil since everything wasn't when they were on campus (they being people his age) The stuff unraveled afterwords.
@TheAngeltoDemon LOL about the punch. will check it out. :) I will google it since you said google it 3 times in twelve words. lol. :) Love your thoughts about JS. I am a new (growing) fan of PSU watching the coverage of their school and hoping against hope that this problem will resolve itself over time. Husker fan who quite recently started paying attention to this situation. Not sure which school you support PSU or another one. :) Always fun to have a team to cheer on!!!
I don't remember that. I do remember being a NU fan (now you know my alliance) knowing that the person who alledgedly saw stuff was going to be at the NU-PSU game. There might have been people on campus leadership wise "supporting him" but I doubt that most students now a days respect him. Plus, looking at it from the student perspective I can understand that I respect NU coaches so I can imagine the emotions I would feel if they were involved in this kind of mess. I can imagine that students
Penn State did not break any Ncaa Rules when this happened the players were punished for something they did not do which wasn't fair to them. It shouldd have been a state matter not a Ncaa matter
@Blue Skeptic dummy, he's saying that only Paterno and Sandusky should be charged by the law and that the players shouldn't have to face the punishments.
"...The University is a business to be run....there are so many things that need to be taken care". ~ Millen. Uh Matt...The University has the responsibility to do one thing, and one thing, only...EDUCATE! That's it, that's all, nothing more, nothing less.
Sandusky is one hell of a manipulator. That man concealed his actions for years while being heavily involved with major organizations made up of thousands of people. I always see people talking online about Paterno like he was involved with Sandusky's actions... Paterno heard from McQueary about something he saw in the showers. He should have said to McQueary, "what did you do to stop the incident?" Maybe Paterno could be criticized for that, but the eyewitness is the most accountable here.
@AnneLiesveld were coaches on the campus of, he hung out on campus with them, he connected with them as men, trusted them as father figures. This isn't about seeing them be "not perfect" I am sure they could get divorced and he would still respect them. this is SO MUCH BIGGER (I bet) for him! I don't know his feelings but I could imagine seeing something like this about a hs or college coach and imagine how i would feel. I STILL TO THIS DAY respect most of my hs teachers. I can rlt
Joe Pa reported to the Penn State university Police. What he should have done, was report it to the Pennsylvania State Police. Big difference between the two and at his age, he assumed that was enough, but the Penn state university Police clearly was a part of the cover-up, because they made it about image, reputation, recruiting and most of all MONEY!!!
@torontothegood feeling like He respected them as integrity-filled strong responsible men and they are no more that but he remembers them as being all that so is emotional. He looked very genuinely emotional--even struggling with eye contact with his co-worker eyes as a intervewee.
Did anyone else get disgusted by this guys counterfeit emotions? He is either the worse judge of character I have ever seen, or he's in on it! He knew Sandusky for how long, and NEVER heard rumors of pedophilia? Have people become so naive and dumbed down that they actually buy any of this CRAP? Come on people, WAKE UP already.
I don't know what the big deal is, who here can say they don't know the joy of a nice, young boy? The joy a nice young boy can bring, the pure, PURE pleasure that a nice, generous young boy willing to do just about anything can bring? Who amongst you can say you havent taken, one, two, maybe fourteen boys into your back parlor and given them candy and drinks, perhaps even video taped the experience so you can relive that joy at other times? Isn't this America? Aren't we all AMERICANS?
Anybody that was informed of the information that he was privy to, needs to go straight to the police, and if not, take full responsibility for not doing so. Sorry Matt, and sorry Joe. Jerry Scumdusky needs to rot in prison, and Joe, along with all at Penn State with knowledge needed to go.
@inkydinkydooky I agree with you I guess I just feel like it feels like media at first basically didn't call Sandusky bad at all but I guess with time that wil change.
True. I agree with you about that. What bugs me most isn't that every senior now had a horrid year it is that they are doing (like all college students on campus' everywhere doing good things and of course media makes no attention there and then this happens and non-stop attention and while I agree with that I think about how many things that school is known for that get zero media and they will forever be known for that. Jokes aren't funny!! AT ALL.
You have to grow up in a nation of a football team and the pride of those programs to understand this. Joe Paterno was a an icon in college football and this program was so great but this kills all of that. I grew up in Nebraska and if Osborne or Devaney was involved in something like this it would be devastating. That being said the issues of Penn State were sick and God only knows how wide this was. Those behind that whole issue should be punished to the extent of the law and pray to God that he forgives them for they have a special place waiting if the word is true.
I love my Syracuse Orange. I love my VA Tech Hokies. I can't imagine if this was Jim Boeheim or Frank Beamer. I feel sorry for all the proud alumni. regardless of who did wat, it sucks.
...no. No, Paterno knew about something and he decided to do nothing. Because if he didnt know anything then why was he involved in conversation about speaking and meeting with Sandusky about what happened. Why was he involved? Millen was putting everything about this situations First...except for the Victims.
I doubt he would but I am guessing it is a completely different emotion to know that it wasn't a "total stranger" that commited such offenses and an actual friend.
Friendly NU fan here and I can appreciate your comments. Friendly: You don't even have to be a HUGE sports fan to feel. This interview shows the hard of a 48ish year old man feeling like his entire "grade" of school respected him. I mean, Bawstin I see you putting that you saw this guy as a "God" but I imagine all it would take is for someone like Matt to know that he respected his former "boss." I would imagine that it is alot less than a God level or I have a "god" like respect for former
I can imagine if I saw him doing it to my nephew. That is what amazed me about how non reactive McQueary was and then I listened to McQueary talk on interviews about feelings such shock about what happened and I realized it isn't like McQuery "walked into a grocery store and saw ....... and reacted. People who put "what if he had saw a kid being violated in the real world etc do you realize that he had a human connection to that person so it isn't like he just "saw something randomly?"
That is what I am talking about. People say sports isn't important but there are so many layers to this that have nothing to do with sports-that is what I have always said. This is so much more about Millen thnking he had Paterno et al figured out and that dissolving into a trivial mess than anything else. :( I am imagining it being agonizing at best. Our former football player is married and I believe has 20 something kids.
this is ridiculous, I cant believe Matt Millen would seriously overlook the bigger picture here and speak the way he has, especially when he said "im sure Joe Paterno is feeling the same way right now" uh NO, INCORRECT, he probaby felt that way decades ago upon initially learning of Sanduskys horrible crimes and yet, apparently didnt feel terrible enough to take any damn stand for it. And for Matt Millen to not enough tread carefully enough to recognize that at the end of the day, sports and other non essential life matters play zero importance towards relinquishing the trauma and impact that Sandusky laid onto his victims, and those people, above all else deserve justice and recognition. Penn state makes me sick.
Kyong Hansen u know u make me sick I had to go thru bad times at school just because of this and ur a bitch u have no idea what it's like ur a big bitch who knows nothing about this
I think it's just as sad that law officials swept the first occurrence under the rug yet everyone had no problem picking on an 85 year old man who probably had a bigger positive impact on the world in one year than most of us could hope to have in a lifetime. If you've never been to State College/University Park to see even a tiny bit of impact that this man has had on the immediate community there you should shut it. He lived to a higher moral standard than most of us could ever hope to.
hs teachers who are worth my time of day. Him = Paterno/Sandusky. I can absolutely relate to that feeling bawstin of feeling like people are admired for years and then they come unglued. probably similar to how most husker fans feel about Osborne from the 1970's.
@metalrules16 Husker fan here but all you have to do to imagine Millen's emotions base is to imagine being in your 40's and watching a 70 something coach be accused of such things 15 years ago. and before you go and say "I can imagine if my coach would be accused of such things I would be done with him instantaneously" I ask you "Which coach/teacher would you be willing to watch be accused of such thing?" Like an actual coach or teacher not like someone else's on tv?
It's a fact that Paterno didn't go to the cops right away, he only went to the ad. That's morally wrong imo. Paterno cared more about the program/his image than those poor kids or else he woulda gone to the cops asap. Millen just doesn't want to believe a figure he admired and looked up to for years made a huge mistake.
Put your feelings to the side Detriot Fans Matt Millen this is not about your sorry football team It was sorry before Millien came in. But he has a big heart and i give him a standing O for doing his job i always liked him being a broadcaster
@granolanutpunch It probably was very similar to family. When you figure he was first around with them in 76 that is alot of years of friendship. and talk about trying to figure out the emotions. I hear support of a coach in the riots on campus but I also see MM having an attitude about JS but even while saying that he admits he felt less than good about JS but even while saying that he sometimes admit the emotions get the best of him or however he put it--shockingly they do
he did let that happen but he was still one of the best football coaches ever. if he wasnt a great football coach i would have probably been ready to punch him or something
Yes because that's a proper reaction when clearly everyone at Penn State had so much to do with the scandal. In case you can't register sarcasm since you can't seem to register logic, the students and teachers had nothing to do with what happened. A lot of the students weren't even alive or knowledgable enough to know what was going on.
@lolee101 He probably isn't as much confused as when I hear him talking about wanting to talk about obliterating JS it is also about talking about how much He respected him in the past. I am guessing he is feeling the equivalent to what it might feel like to be in your 50s and realize a teacher in their 80s was accused of defending such things in their 70s.
Wow, incredible. I have lived in the State College area for many of years now. For everyone who is bashing Millen obviously do not get what the Penn State family is. Penn State is more than a University. It is a lifestyle (and before all you immature people begin saying, "yeah, a pedophile lifestyle", try acting your age for once and liste). Penn State is a community. Once a Nittany Lion, more than a Nittany Lion. This is why Millen is upset, and why he cries. It is sad for alumni and all.
@AnneLiesveld It is as you say about his world unraveling because PSU became his foundation but also his foundation was that JP and JS were good people. Do you really think if JS did this kind of stuff he acted "evil" around Millen?
Don't cal it "ped" state for the staff person in the math department, don't call it that for the person who was a freshman last year who (12 years ago) was 6, for the senior who had a stressful senior year. those are a few of the people not responsible for "ped state" and it is GIVEN a reason otherwise. When you are being picky, please grammar check
I feel bad for victim one b/c of how his family treated him, and his dad was never there, that is why he was happy, he was getting presents, when Jerry stopped getting him gifts and mom money they told police the rape story and his mom started bragging. THAT IS SICK. I hope one day that gets out and his mom goes to jail. JERRY WAS GUILTY SO IT IS FINE HE IS BEHIND BARS SO IT IS WAY BETTER NOW. I feel bad for all the other victims and I hate that he did that to those poor kids.
On Sept. 18, 2005, the cocaine and vodka lost their ability to soothe Fleury’s pain. He cracked. He crumbled. "I finally had a conversation with the Big Guy Upstairs and I called Him every name in the book," Fleury said. "I told Him, 'I know the whole You-only-give-me-as-much-as-I-can-handle thing. Well, I'm full. I need you to take a little.' At the end of the conversation, I prayed for Him to take away the obsession. ..
@ThePrepnow1 An alumni? He said He graduated X-Y years and was on the football team so having a relationship. Fake tears? That looked pretty legitimate to me.
the investigation was done by former fbi agents and federal prosecutors. the man who headed the team was a former fbi director and federal judge. i am relatively certain that the facts they found are quite reliable.
I know that joe should have done more, but it is wrong to keep taking shots at people who cant defend themselves now. He is the only person for sure who knew his reasonings and everyone is making assumptions based on hearsay. I do believe he should have done more, and it was wrong that he didn't, but he never really had a chance to defend himself. Everyone needs to stop focusing on him and help the victims/ prevent this horrible act from ever recurring.
@granolanutpunch Everyone talks about this campus coach was his family as though it is so surprising. JP and JS were family because MM connected with them. That is as deep as caring about your high school english or math teacher. I have people I worked with for 1-3 years and I care alot about them. I count it a priviledge to be able to to this day have a connection to a high school music teacher through church. that is the closest I have to a long term connection of a coach.
@TheAngeltoDemon TOTALLY FINE! Givin' you some serious youtube crap. :) I knew you wanted me to google it so you said so! :) What is so wierd about this clip as a NU person is I am realizing that I am a NU person who has followed big 12 and doesn't have a clue who or when the last time that Penn State played anyone-- I recognize JP with respect to Penn State but that is about all. Very wierd to watch all this come out right as I am starting to be aware of PSU.
I am guessing he would have responded different but since he does actually know him as a person it isnt like he is a "ficticious person" and it isnt ilke he can "imagine if his kids had spent time with him
