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@USB center, Stop trying to control people. I'll say what a want when a want. Your worst than RU-vid. Don't dictate to me, I'll express my thoughts in the way I choose, thanks.😏
@@ClassNav This is analysis by the globalist/Neoliberal elites with a view to stifling any emerging challenge to their hegemony. Goodwin runs with the hare, but his loyalty is really to the hounds.
The general narrative is that populism is 'bad'. I would suggest that populism is a legitimate expression of discontent. On Brexit the political game we observed for years was national politicians claiming that nothing has been given away to the EU but we've experienced unprecedented immigration for 15 years that has overwhelmed housing and public services. Those political lies have been exposed, the consequences of those lies are all around us. There are also good points about how the working class have been taken for granted and then completely ignored by many in the political class. For such a large section of society to be disenfranchised will also cause a response. To live in a country where the liberal elite lies to people and then ignores them, you should expect a response and that response should be taken seriously.
Very grateful to have found Matthew Goodman’s videos. Am sick of my colleagues spouting the same misleading arguments about why Leave won, how voters were mislead or were bigots, racists etc. Now I have ammunition.
I appreciate the critical introspection on the subject of "Populism" yet I'm still amazed these people speak of it as something to be feared. That including the working classes in your consideration when managing the nation they live in, is a "bad" thing, and what should be a proper reaction to it !! How about not immediately framing it as something to be worried about and something which needs to be "countered". They have no shame, when it comes to having any concern for an entire class of people - this is the reaction. Like what is this the 18 hundreds ? About time the middle class updated their exclusion politics, we have advanced from the times of Dickens FFS.
Your point of view is not shared by everyone , reproducing the "race" is a small minority. Nationalism seem to gain traction , Trump declaring himself a nationalist gave it legitimacy ,it gained traction and started a debate among US conservatives . But it's not ethno-nationalism .
@@creator7583 Nor should it be. Some order needs restored and honesty needs to be honoured not despised. We are being dragged to the front of the line in a race to the bottom.
Populism = What goverment calls the will of the people when the government doesn't agree with the people.. Democracy = What government calls the will of the people when the government agrees with the people.. Populism and democracy are simply two names for the same condition. The will of the people. Governments should heed the will of the people. If they don't agree, then they should resign. It's that simple.
Ok democracy is populism manifest in politics, the person who wins gets the most votes, or in simple terms is the most popular, populism is a slur to denigrate the "lower classes" voting in their own interest and not in the interest of the elite.
The two aspects of the Brexit supporters reasons for their stance are reconciled by a quote from the English economist Milton Keynes: 'Open borders and the welfare state are incompatible.' While that is an irrefutable economic argument the indigenous population have recognised the threat of open borders to the survival of their culture.
Is this an inept attempt at satire? Milton Friedman is the man responsible for the quotation, and this is about the only thing he ever got right. You have blended his name with that of John Maynard Keynes (Friedman's polar opposite as an economist) to create the name of a postwar new town in Buckinghamshire!
Any thinking person who is astute enough to do the research will ultimately arrive at one conclusion. A rejection of globalism, a rejection of corporatism, (not to be confused with capitalism), A rejection of communism/socialism, a rejection of mass Islamic immigration, and the rejection of post modernism. They have all contributed to the decline of our economy, our jobs, our culture, our freedoms, our safety, our happiness, and our well-being. Those things have also taken away our ability to decide the future direction of our country, our ability to control our governments and elected MP's, the ability to preserve our culture and our heritage, they've taken away our freedoms and liberties, our freedom of speech, thought, and expression. In short, we rejected the Orwellian nightmare that Britain had become, hence the slogan "We want our country back". If any politician cannot grasp this, then they shouldn't be in politics.
Populism is defined as evil policies liked by a significant proportion of the population. Populism is in truth only policies that are popular enough to win but I hate them. The term populism says more about the beliefs and motivation of the person who uses the term than those it is meant to describe. The anti populists are those to be concerned about. Their liberal and illiberal use of the term 'far right' applied to anyone that disagrees with them, even to progressives with sound arguments and opinions, only demonstrates there loss of the argument a long time ago and an unwillingness to engage. This slightly insightful speech only highlights how far certain groups have still to go to appreciate why this is happen.
Immigration, at least 50% of immigrants come from outside the EU over which we have also had control. So the UK government is responsible. It's not white non Muslim Europeans that are the problem it's people from developing countries specifically Muslim countries like Bangladesh and Pakistan. Allowed to bring in more than 1 wife and all the children of these wives. I saw home office entry clearance application forms where 1 page had headings of wife 1 wife 2 and wife 3 and how many children each wife had. These what I call other women would be treated as non dependents all getting accommodation for them and their children. Knockthroughs were done (2 flats into one) and in a lot of cases the 2nd wife left with her children and got a flat and all on benefits. In a case I was investigating a elderly man who didn't have a flat in 1988 went back to Bangladesh in 1988 and came back in 1990 and went straight to the homeless persons office and got a 2 bed council flat for his 1st wife and him and his 2 grown up sons all on benefits. Then he went back in 1990 and came back in 1992 with another wife and 3 grown up children 1 daughter and 2 sons and they all moved into the 2 bed flat. So there were now 7 Adults all on benefits living in the 2 bed flat. Then he went back to Bangladesh again in 1992 and came back again 14 years later in 2006 he tried to bring in a 3rd wife and 5 children aged 12 and under. They refused entry to his 3rd wife. (The man was 84 and riddled with TB had heart disease and was diabetic) but they let the 5 children in because they had british passports. In the meantime the 2nd wife and the 5 adult sons and daughter all got their own flats via the homeless persons office and all on benefits. So in 2006 he moved the 5 children into the 2 bed flat and demanded a transfer to a large property he didn't get one because the waiting list was and is very long. He died in 2008 and left behind what I call the proper wife and the 5 children from the 3rd one. I don't know if the rules have changed but nobody else is allowed to bring in multiple wives. The housing officers are supposed to provide reports when the entry clearance officers from the British High Commissions request up to date accounts of the person's housing situation. I always sent my replies direct to the High Commission and gave a copy to the tenant/renter. They were not happy with my replies because told the truth. I also demanded confirmation of my reports from the Entry clearance officers. Non of these tenants/renters were educated most were semi literate and unemployed.
Being a member of the EU comes with the "political condition" of signing up to the ECHR's (european convention of human rights) Those human rights influence what can be done with non EU immigration.
@Julia A "EC" = European Council = Council of Europe. "Some of human rights legislation has become EU law and all 28 member states are signed up to it,but the ECHR was set up in 1959 under the Council of Europe which has 47 state members. When we leave the EU we will still be obligated to the ECHR,but this can be changed by Parliament changing human rights legislation,whereas it cant be while we are in the EU." I fully agree with the above statement...
I attended an elite boarding school (public school) in Connecticut, then elite Stanford University, then a PhD in psychology, am gay, and I would have voted BREXIT had I been a UK citizen, and did vote in 2016 for almost the first time for someone who was not a Democratic Party member, Donald Trump. Populist, I guess?
The young will not save you, they will be challenged and will have to make good arguments.
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A very informed but, it seems to me, skewed point of view. It would have been useful to start of with a definition of what 'populism' is because it's not clear. If it's simply people taking a far right position then fine, why not call them far right. Farage is not far right but was listed as a populist so it seems that 'far right' does not equal 'populist'. Is it center right then? Do you mean conservatism? If so then again, why not say conservative, or tory if you must use a derogatory term. Or is populism just a large percentage of people voting for politics that you don't like, that you 'know' is wrong? Because that's what it seems to be to me. The left, who call themselves liberal but are not, reach for "those words" - xenophobic, racist, sexist, white supremacist, nazi, ...populist far too quickly. The arguments I mostly heard against brexit were, as Goodwin confirms, mostly ad hominems.
This is Establishment damage limitation masquerading as analysis. Goodwin is Chatham House/RIIA; in other words, a gamekeeper pretending to be a poacher.
I have never understood where the phrase 'populism' stems from, and thus why its a bad thing, I just cant see what is bad about the popular vote, so why does the term 'populism' get such bad press? I can only think that its a deliberate strategy by the neo liberal elites who do not like having to face the reality of the 'popular vote' being able to upset their cozy echo chamber.
I just watched Steve Bannon's address to students at Oxford. In the Q & A, the last, very young, woman asked him if he thought democracy was still the best way to run societies. He was absolutely stunned. He gave a pretty good answer, but I wish he'd said, "And what do you have in mind to replace it with?"
Simone Streeter I think that just about sums up the issue, we have come so far since only male home owners had the vote, first it was all men, then just a few decades later women got the vote, and now we have a female educated individual wanting an alternative, what messed up thought process is going on in her head? The reason why hard core socialism is finished, is because my vote and your vote can be cancelled out by someone else’s vote, thus removing the requirement for forced equality. To have the temerity suggest that there is an alternative beggars belief and demonstrates the issue with the ‘educated’ elites, the inference that the proletariat should vote in a particular way or else face having the vote taken away from them, is hardly ‘progressive’, it’s a return to Feudalism, although this time round it’s about exam passes not a bloodline 🙈🙈
Brexit voting educated professional here. This absolutely nails it, I voted out because of most the reason he states. The other point is the lack of Democratic consent for all the treaties, and creeping federalism. I despised the attitude of the remain vote and I might have been persuaded if they hadn’t repeatedly claimed working class brits
"What are you willing to concede" is the question. And the problem has been the attitude of "You're full of hate and/or too stupid to be capable of governing yourself so I'm going to ignore or vilify everything you have to say" from the various elitists. Instead of us all being people that simply have differing opinions that have to get along as best we can.
Excellent analysis. Would just add as people get older their priorities change , get married have children and get a mortgage etc. This adds to the reasons the young student may reevaluate their political views
Oh that was good. I'm 51 and do remember how idealistic and left wing some of my friends were in their youth and now nearly every one of them voted Brexit. I've always thought about this when remain leaning MP's have used the argument that 3 years on a lot of the old have died, but I don't think they realised there were a lot of people 3 years older now. I think there is one difference between my generation and some that came after in that we were the grandchildren of WW2 veterans, and although some of my friends back then were left wing in their politics they were all fiercely patriotic.
@pammens miss Baffled that you think a mother whose first priority is her child is 'selfish.' A dependent child needs and deserves someone on earth who puts them as a first priority when they need help. And yes, that would keep a parent from putting their employer first, possibly, so no not the ideal for an employer. Especially a short-sighted, self-centered, self-serving, self-interested employer. The colleagues have nothing to do with it.
People across issues, culture and place get more small c conservative as age. People vote by current age not cohort. But today's 30 year olds think they are unique and special and will vote by cohort. As you say that isn't true.
Keep in mind that "Populism" has 2 different meanings, just like "liberal" in US (soy-fuelled, SJW socialism) x EU (classical Adam Smith liberalism) Populism as mentioned in the video is about respecting the masses' wishes, traditions, etc, and is usually a banner of conservatives/rural Right. Meanwhile, "populism" in South America is about doing unsustenaible economic decisions to please the crowds, like price controls, confiscations from the wealthy, creating state run companies and other things that lead to economic collapse as seen in Venezuela, and is usually a banner of the urban champagne Left, even if they disguise it putting a pseudo-working class grunt like Lula or Maduro to advertise it.
1st rule of survival and a basic human instinct,secure shelter, get a fire going, then water source and finally food. All our Social Housing being given over to new arrivals along with generous benefits then insult us and accuse us of racism then go on a crime spree, please don't expect us to be fucking happy about it
Visiting this 3 years later and what's depressing is that when Matthew Goodwin asks of the Left and the pro-EU supporters "what are you willing to concede?" the answer was "nothing" and we still have the polarisation.
The audience are wondering if they'll still be able to pay their cleaners/ nannies and dog walkers the minimum wage or perhaps realize how their selfishness has distorted our society
What is the alternative to populism? It seems like the normal function of democracy to me. Perhaps it, if it is a thing, was perhaps not evident in earlier times because there were such heavy external forces at work in the world that we tended to see things differently.
I'm a fairly liberal American (more on the Bernie Sanders side) but I dont really understand the point of the EU anymore. The US can't get its states to agree on much of anything I cant imagine the EU can get a bunch of countries to agree on anything.
As an ageing white man and for what little it is therefore worth, I can say that my motivation to leave is based on experience and a knowledge of history. I see disturbing parallels with Europe's current aspirations and actions to those of the 1920's and 30's which ended extremely badly. Just because an opinion is popular does not mean it is wrong. The Commission, for all its well intentioned if naive beliefs, is currently driving the masses of Europe blindly into the hands of the far right and I have no desire to see yet another generation of young men required to undo this folly. I have no sense of optimism though.
See first Matthew Goodwin on Triggernometry. Find him to be very insightful on the issues facing Western civilization on the political, cultural and economic fronts.
This is about good and evil, not left or right, some evil people want to control you,but God loves you and wants u to be free,dont forget your history.
One of the few analysts that has objectivity at heart rather than ideological narratives to support. A breath of fresh air so he will probably be seen as far right and someone for MI5 to watch.
lol the work space today is no more democratic than it was 100 years ago, perhaps that might explain much in who represents `us` in goverment, . second point, scotland, n ireland have assemblies where is the voice english assembley!?
Economics are supposed to fit and support our culture. Not try and steamroller it and destroy it. Economists are mad men. Economics are supposed to fit us an the way we live. They are not supposed to redefine us and the way we live. Life is not a spread sheet. An we are not just a number. We let economists have too much influence over our lives. Capitalism transforms businesses and economists into dictators. Should not be the case at all.
The question about how populism will either change or stabilize in the future to come. Just has the answer of "yes". All that matters is the need vs want of the people in the discussion of populism. Also I think this is where the American system is better than the UK system for elections. Because the UK system you are voting for the party politics and the us system you vote for local politics with party politics accounting for less... if you are informed.
A veritable fact fest. Thank u, thank u, thank u. In a world where the very idea of facts, is becoming its self a fable, it's great 2 hear this good gentleman talk of things beyond opinion. It was like drinking water, after a month on Coca Cola. Definitely 1 2 be filed away 4 future reference, so thank u once again :-)
Mat I enjoyed your speech 👏👏 my father ALWAYS used to say that there is to much money in to few hands HOW Right he was I'm now 77 and still batting god you
An excellent argument backing up why I, as an intelligent, thinking person, voted LEAVE. As governance struggles to go global, and I can see the pitfalls coming along the line (unaccountable people deciding arbitrarily what is 'good' for me) I am continually seeking ways of taking power back - making it local, accountable, transparent and trustworthy.
I am a left wing voter. I believe in a strong set of public services rebalance of economy away from London and on balance voted Leave. I am broadly socially liberal (silly recent stuff withstanding) supports fair migration- not pro white Freedom of Movement. I like Prof Goodwin stuff
Liberal Democracy has been around for so long and most politicians are complacent about it, I do believe that REFORM is the keyword and should be taken seriously and urgently otherwise there will come a point(a time sometimes in future) of no return, ie the system will be transformed by the people themselves.
10:40 - you hear the claim that EEC / EU membership was originally sold to the British people as a trading / economic relationship and not a political one quite a lot. It's not true though. Margaret Thatcher - Britain's most pro EU prime minister ever - made it very clear during Britain's first referrendum on the EEC back in the 1970's that our membership was both a matter of economic and politcal union
Yes. For most people in history, and still for most people in the developing world, the logical reaction would be: "I should be so lucky as to live under such 'austerity'"!
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Spending our children's money without asking them seems to be quite acceptable.
@ if majority of government spending didn't go for silly things like wars I mean, look at the US: 7-8 trillion in war debt? Taxation to pay this crazy interest? Look at the UK: aside from the wars it imports loads of unemployable migrants and keeps them on benefits, not to mention the quangos and half baked government private partnerships that socialize private debt and privatise profits... This is where our future children's money is going. And then most idiots vote to continue going down this path
Middle-class head-bangers are confusing cheap scap labour being invited by the millions into Great Britain without any form of immigration control or work visas with racism. The working class recognise the totalitarian economic plan behind the EU rich nations to draw on the cheap labour from those countries which they used in a parasitical and exploitative way. Brexit was because of the over-population caused by cheap scap labour from Europe, which has almost destroyed our education and health system. Some working class people are racist, but only the most illiterate and anti-social among them, easily controlled by fascist leaders.
Chatham House/RIIA? I rest my case - Goodwin is an Establishment shill pretending to understand the populist cause (the better to neutralise it for his globalist masters).
I realize modern national populism isn't totally analogous to the original populist in America (original in name that is as populism is a well documented human impulse) but we can learn something about the motivations of populist movements by looking at the late 19th century United States. "popular movements normally begin as defense of traditional rights, standards, and obligations" - Steve Hahn, The Roots of Southern Populism Somewhat different factors between 1870-1900 America and 2019 Britian but largely the same motivations. I believe it was Donald MacRae at the London School of Economics who said (I am paraphrasing) that Populism isn't nessecralily a backwards looking set of ideas but a lose ideology that seeks to infuse traditional values with continuing progress. Goodwin's findings sounds pretty much the same.
It is not about so-called 'traditional values.' It is about any values that allow working-class people to have lives of dignity, decency, and self-respect.
Whereas in USA and most countries, populism can muddle on with no particular massive dooms approaching, in the UK brexit will provide a homegrown economic crisis.
I really don't understand this.... The need to justify Populism. Speaking as a black Brit I know what its all about... It is about racism and white entitlement. My parents experienced it first hand when they came here in the 60's. I experienced it growing up in the 70's and 80's. The West came to dominate on the backs of black and brown people the world over... All justified as the white mans burden. Them taking on the responsibility of civilising the rest of us. This meme is not new... So why are we seeing it come to the fore again right now? Well for the same reason why it came to the fore in the 1930's with Mussolini, Franco and Hitler. People tend to be more tolerant when they are doing well economically. Following a financial crisis, and stagnant wages, intolerance grows as people look for scapegoats. Nothing new... An angry white man trying to tell me that populism is not about angry white men :) Go figure :)
This is my home, I was born here... The chances are I pay more taxes then you do as I run my own business.... You are no more entitled to be here then I am.... Get over it!!
Except you didn't say so... You chose to tell me to "go home" instead. Implying that this is less my home then yours. No idea where that came from? My opinion on the speaker differs from yours and where do you go? Straight to my race. All you've done is confirm everything I've said in my original post. You've shown yourself to be an angry white woman (so not just angry white men!).
@ A business that is successful enough to buy me a holiday home in the Med and another in the Caribbean.thank you. Both places I'll be spending more of my time in the future in order to avoid people like you. The politics of grievance leads nowhere. It failed for Corbyn and it will fail for Boris also in the long run. Hate all you like, your skin complexion entitles you to nothing. Try applying yourself and getting off your arse for a change!! You may find that you have less to complain about!!!
@ Its interesting that you should use an animal analogy. It about sums up your intelligence. Well I'm neither a dog or a horse., so speak for yourself. Its this kind of horse shit that led to the eugenics practiced by the Nazis. Next you'll tell me that the Aryan race is genetically superior !!! If you took the time to read you'd know that various races have been preeminent at different times in history. You are not special. Get over it.
@ My mum use to clean offices.. Nothing wrong with it... Good honest work. It helped put me through University. She and my Dad arrived here in the early 60's, invited to the "mother country" to help rebuild after the war. Not to mention the others who came before them and fought and died for this country,, many as airmen. No talk of dogs and horses then!! Take a look at the faces walking past the Cenotaph each year,. All colours from all over the world. Likewise today with the highly skilled Polish tech workers I see every day in the City of London... Working hard and paying taxes. Migrants have contributed hugely to this country. Hardly surprising really. People (and yes we are all people) who are motivated to leave their homeland tend to be self starters and hard workers. My mum use to tell me that it was us Jamaicans and the Irish who built this country after the war. When we leave the EU and the talented Italians, Polish, Romanians, etc all go back home what then? Back to what my parents witnessed when they first got here, the native English skiving, sitting on their arse and drinking tea all day long. Who is going to do the work then? The thing you forget is that there are no colonies anymore. No more coffee, or sugar, or oil to steal from countries around the world. Today you have to pay for stuff like everyone else. No more Britannia ruling the waves, no more stealing other peoples stuff at gun point and getting them to work for a pittance. The world is a changed place. Try travelling like I do and living in other countries, like I have. Little Englanders like yourself are in for a rude awakening!!
Exactly. It's a popularity contest. Which is why, if a guy wants to lead a bunch of Canadians, and insists on wearing a turban, he might not be popular unless he can convince them extra well that he has their best interests at heart. Someone used this as an example of racism, and no it isn't. It would be if he were denied housing in favor of a less-qualified applicant.
Yes maybe true but you have decided not to mention the total lack of understanding the British public had about how govt works and how the EU works. I am talking about both leave and remainers . The majority of voters had no idea and perhaps still have no idea. Do you think anyone down my ordinary street in a Cambridge market town could tell me how the customs union works ? Plenty of youngsters on those marches . I was there . Let's be honest it was the sun and mail wot won it !
