When both work together masterpieces are born. Ravel was known for being a perfectionist and slow worker, he would revisit his compositions several times before publishing
SadisticKillerXx well when you’re dealing with dissonance like he did, it must be hard to choose intervals which don’t kill the piece. truly a master at work
@@SadisticKillerXx fun fact: he discarded (burned in fact) the original final movement he composed for this sonata, even though he’s reported to have described it himself as “ravishing “. Apparently he felt it wasn’t energetic and propulsive enough to conclude the work satisfactorily (to his notoriously stringent and self-critical standards at least). Sad that it’s lost to posterity
I love how at 15:19 he makes the piano enter differently than in the first time earlier in the movement, so the harmonies are slightly different and it sounds as if the piano has entered a bar early. Such an ingenious little twist that makes the recap section slightly more interesting
Ikkk! The second movement is called “The Blues”. It was inspired by Ravel’s trip to the U.S. where he learned about jazz. It was also written like that because he was going through some type of depression. But it’s just sooo groovy and upbeat!
The short section starting at 9:25 feels a nostalgic, cute, melancholic and sweet sort of look back at a fond memory of doing something mundane with a person you used to love, I can't get enough of Ravel's genius
Oof, I don't like it :( Ravel was very meticulous and specifically wrote out where he wanted the movement to swing - the parts where he writes it straight is to contrast, to balance it out and to make the swing parts swing more
Douwe Ziel I know, I’ve thought that on reflection, and often there’s a contrast where the piano is written to sound swung while the violin plays straight quavers - I guess this is to show the mixing of classical and jazz genres. Still, it’s an interesting interpretation to hear.
las personas que dieron dislaic al video, me imagino que llegaron a él por error, mientras buscaban otra cosa; porque no me imagino qué tipo de persona escribe en el buscador de youtube "Sonata Ravel" o algo semejante y al encontrarse con esto se disgusta. será la interpretación? en lo personal se me hace magnífica, (es un buen momento para usar la palabra) magistral!!!
For chords, I - II - V - I type tonal analysis would be less fruitful than classification by sonorities and intervals, (often open 5ths and major 7ths in this work). Themes and motifs should be fairly clear cut, and lead into classification by rhythm. The macro level forms are derived from the classical sonata but are not driven and shaped by functional tonal schemes. ( dechareli.lu/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Dissertation-Baer-on-Ravel.pdf ) is a Ph.D. thesis containing an analysis at pg. 37 of the manuscript.
Ravel sagte zwar immer, dass er keine Ohrwürmer schreiben wollte. Aber ich pfeife manchmal zum Leidwesen meiner Mitmenschen die schrägsten Ravelmelodien vor mich hin.
Second movement of the piano concerto in G at 4:40, piano concerto for the left hand at 11:00, hints of Gershwin throughout...this piece is an awesome find
I don't know if there were ever any true impressionists in music. Both Ravel and Debussy almost always get classified that way, but the more you dive into their music, the more you realize they have absolutely nothing in common with Impressionist artists like Monet. They were basically just getting famous at the same time, so the wider public conflate them together. However, I know that Debussy associated himself a lot more with symbolist writers, and wished to be called a symbolist himself. This never caught on, though. He was also deeply influenced by Japanese art that he was exposed to at the Paris world fair (and I'm sure later too), and you can really hear that influence in his late works such as his piano etudes. Ravel was extremely ecclectic in the sources from where he got inspiration, but he tended to be kind of neoclassical (as someone else pointed out). He was also heavily influenced by the weird and morose literature of the Decadent movement in France. Anyway, this became a really big parragraph before I knew it, but the short answer is that they never saw themselves as impressionist, and they both draw from very different sources and artistic movements.
dis som weal fey sheet ! Fey! Music should never be fake jazz. Schonberg and the 2nd Viennese school took their turn into a mostly uncommunicative wilderness and here the well-known perfectionist craftsman writes elegant poop ! No wonder this is never played in concert. Debussy cello Sonata now that's a masterpiece .
Two musical discourses crisscross this work: an ephemeral lyricism and a Jazz influenced grassroots style. I don't think that the two styles work together. Just my opinion, but just listen to the second movement which makes me cringe.
very funny to read this (with all respect of course)! As this piece is to my years one of the most beautiful, concise and cohesive pieces I have heard! It's very interesting how different people hear the same thing differently/react opposingly. Some works by gershwin makes me cringe much more, I think
