Maximilian_Dood's Reacting to Tim & Geoff Follin's music for the first time! 

I can't believe this happened.... RIP Geoff Follin, you did some of the best retro tunes ever, you would be remembered as the legend that you are. I feel so bad for Tim right know, I hope for the best to him and Geoff's family.

The saddest part is that Tim said he stopped making music for video games because he was so underpaid and stressed out. Makes me wish someone would hire him again for a big budget game. I bet he’d kill it. The dude clearly understands theming.

"CALM DOWN TIM! ITS JUST PICTIONARY!"

Tim Follin composed a whole country song to go with a licensed racing game that came free with breakfast cereal. He did not care what he was working on. He went as hard as he could no matter what.

First half of Plok!'s boss theme = "Oh no I'm locked with them!!" Second half of the theme when the beat drops = "No, they are locked in here with me"

~22:10 "genesis does not have good audio" tim: * smirk *

Rest in peace, Geoff. You and Tim were a dynamic duo making banger after banger.

Tim Follin, on raw sound generation hardware, was the king of mid-call interrupts, allowing a single channel output to seemingly play two notes at the same time, filling out the sound with a 'power chord' without wasting more of the limited channels available. His greatest use of this trick and the first to show his amazing coding skills was his work with the Sinclair ZX Spectrum. ZX Spectrum 48k - Chronos - Title Screen. Tim Follin composed a seeming multi channel song with percussion on a single channel 1BIT BEEPER! It is pure magic what he pulled off. Also Agent X on Spectrum. When you compare his work with other ZX Spectrum 48k 1bit beeper music, it's simply beyond their level. Not to be confused with 128k ZX Spectrum music (LED Storm was a 128k track), those used an AY chip which was much more versatile in sound generation with 3 channels. To show the level of difference in the beeper and the AY chip, 'Short Circuit' 48k version vs 128k version, which was also composed by a capable programmer in Fred Gray but his 48k version, while sounding good, has noticeable interrupts between each note while Follin's stuff is the work of digital wizardry that defies the hardware. For clarification, the 1Bit Beeper can literally and physically ONLY play 1 note at a time, with limited tonal ranges and no volume control. (edited for spelling errors).

That Solstice theme is like "Oh, we'll just start with some happy-go-lucky Dragon Quest bgm," and then suddenly a Yes album comes in and smacks you upside the head.

I once heard someone liken the NES sound chip to "a wooden block, 2 chanting monks, and a triangle" and they did this with it

I’m a max fan, and a huge Tim Follin fan, I never knew this happened lmao. This is so awesome

I feel like every gamer eventually goes down a Tim Follin rabbit hole. I'm happy it finally happened for you Max. I wish I remembered where I was when I first heard the Solstice opening theme haha

The stuff he did is very prog rock. Hence why they sound like they take you in a journey. Very based.

"Pre-Todd MacFarlane Spider- man was a creeper!" THANK YOU Max. As usual, Max gets it

I think the coolest thing about Plok is that he only used 5 channels out of the 8 available to make the soundtrack. That is unheard of

Tim's music work can be boils down to "either this goes hard or goes HARDEST"

every time someone discovers tim follins music, an angel gets their wings

"The Genesis has DOGSHIT soundchips in it" Go play Phantasy Star 4 and say that again, Max-

39:43 oh my gooood that tiny little Spider-Man theme song motif, absolutely immaculate

RIP Geoff Follin. The legendary composer ❤

Now imagine Tim Follin composing for a fighting game. HOLY!

Tim Follin's picture is in the pictionary under "You Didn't Have To Go That Hard".

If Silver Surfer is ever to appear in a theoretical MVC4, that nes theme NEEDS to be his character theme, its too perfect!

Tim Follin is simply a god, and I've had the good fortune to be enjoying him from the 80s on. When everyone else was just cranking out some tunes, he was writing pocket symphonies. Lots of people could compose for those soundchips, but few could make them sing in ways that absolutely defied expectations and made you wonder "How the hell...?" while you listened to it, and you had no idea where it would go next - but that you were in for a ride. Tim Follin is one of those people who could do that. It's a certain kind of magic that's lost nowadays now that everything is simply streaming audio. But it's great to see people discovering him, and getting the credit he deserves.

I love that people are discovering Plok. I’ve been singing its praises since it came out. It’s the single most amazing musical achievement on the SNES, IMO. It’s a fantastic platformer as well!

The Genesis has fantastic audio capabilities. It has a yamaha chip used in many keyboards. The problem is most western devs used a shitty music library tool.

Apparently for Pictionary, he used like half of the watchamacallits he had available to him, so he made music THAT crazy without even using the full capabilities of the system.

Finally somebody uploaded this on RU-vid! Tried to find this in Twitch vods, and it is such a pain in the butt. Thank you so much!

I have a Follin story. So my brother and I saved up around $70 or $80 dollars one summer and we had to figure out which game we were going to buy at K-Mart. We were really getting into Marvel Comics cartoon shows at that time in the mid 90s. So when we saw Spider-Man and X-Men Arcade's Revenge SNES in the kiosk it was the perfect combo. So we threw down $70 dollars (plus tax..😢) and the game was not very good. It was easy at first with Spider-Man and the difficulty spikes when you get to choose the X-Men stages. But...we never sold the game. The music was far better than most games we had on snes at the time. It really saved the game. Not to mention the cool poster it came with. Anyway, the Follins are amazing at what they do.

I wonder if Max listened to TimeTrax... AW YEAH BABY THERE IT IS.

I've been into this music for years, and for just as long, I've had people dismissing it as not "real music." While I don't need validation, it's refreshing to finally see someone just get it.

Yeah, what Tim and Geoff were able to do with early video game soundchips is borderline magic

every time i hear someone talking about the GOD that is tim follin, i can't help but remember that time i got gifted a copy of starky and hutch for Pc, it was one of my first pc games, and everytime i heard those godly beats i couldn't help but thinking "huh, must be standard in games to have music this good" it wasn't the case tim follin just GOES HARD no matter the genre of music or the genre of game, ITS INSANE

I love watching people discover Tim and Geoff Follin...

Thank you so much for this. I also discovered Tim and Geoff thanks to this video and my god they did some great job. Feels like whenever someone wanted to make some music that blew the minds of the players they'd just go: "Call the brothers!"

In my honest opinion like Max said, the Silver Surfer Level 1 track is easily one of the greatest ever made with the NES soundchip, it is insane

Prog rock on NES. Only Tim Follin

I came across Plok! through Silvagunner, and it's one of the best discoveries I've made in my music experience ever. Solstice's soundtrack really made me think how faithful Jake Kaufman's composition in Shovel Knight is to NES and SNES soundtracks. The absolute first thing I shouted when Plok Beach theme came up was "THIS IS JUST DOA XTREME BEFORE DOA XTREME" TimeTrax was just all-in Comix-Zone X Streets of Rage. God, Plok Boss theme, again, the Silvagunner mashup with Roller Mobster is absolutely perfect, they play off eachother SO GOOD

Rush. Genesis. Supertramp. King Crimson. *FOLLIN.*

Tim and Geoff were the masters of "You knew what I was about when you hired me. I'm making my next single/album on your shitty husk of a game."

I’ve been looking for this VOD for a while now cause I was half asleep listening to the stream but I always wanted to go back and find these songs. Thank you so much

Thanks for the upload! I love when people discover these old BANGERS and show them love that they deserve

“The Genesis does not have great audio-“ Thunder Force III and IV: Okay, imma stop you right there.

28:17 YES i knew Max would stumble upon Ghouls n' Ghosts eventually, that theme SLAPS

Tim Follin blows the competition away, not just with brilliantly written music, but with mastery of the hardware. I don't think i've heard any other composer squeeze so much out of the NES sound chip. Incredible stuff. I mean i like the "hella classics" as well, amazing songs. But just imagine if they were written with the same technical ability that Tim Follin had.

Every tim follen soundtrack comes with a free game

this was in 2021?? It feels like I was watching this stream just last year holy shit thanks so much for uploading this!

One of my favorite things to do to my friends is show them the insanity of Pictionary NES. They never see it coming.

I am reminded of that scene in Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, when Beethoven discovered the multiple digital keyboards and absolutely just goes to town. Tim & Geoff did not know the meaning of holding back.

Finally another Tim discovery stream, Northernlions stream was last one i remember.

This is my first discovery of the soundtrack to Spiderman and the X-Men in Arcade's revenge. I've struggled to play that game for years and this soundtrack was just background noise to my pain. Now, hearing it without having a brain aneurysm trying beat that impossible game, it's pure joy. Wow! I have to listen to it again on it's own.

Finally, people are paying more attention to the FOLLIN BROTHER'S EPIC MUSIC!!!!! :D

This man needs to listen to Thunder Force IV if he thinks Genesis has bad audio. Those devs and many others made so many Genesis bangers.

The way he can imitate string bending on the Target Renegade theme is amazing...like how does that even work on a nes?

5:45 I HAD THE SAME REACTION 😂😂😂 Calm down dude he was the best employee ever!

Thanks for uploading these highlights! I giggled when his cursor starting dancing along to Creepy Crag lol.

Those guys are amazing. A shame they didn't had the recognition they deserve. So much good stuff

Max saying Mega Drive/Genesis had a shit soundchip shows his lack of knowledge about it.

"dude commodore 64" i think max is not aware of SID chip magic ;p

I remember when i first heard of tim follin. That shit blew my mind

Follins didn't follin' around! It's insane what they could do with that actually pretty simple sound chip. Like... holy fuck, they were insane!

I wonder if capcom listened to the funky spider-man & x-men track as a reference when making MvC2 soundtrack.

From a guy who doesn't like or watch twitch . Thank you for this treasurable moment!

Im surprised no one has commented about Alberto Jose Gonzalez as well

Thanks for grabbing this for us!

9:00 So kind of the box artist to use Tims own likeness on Solstice.

Jeroen Tel is such a legend too, definitely look him up!

The "Plok!" boss theme sounds like a Hotline Miami track

Still to the day listen to the Plok OST. This man truly mastered the SNES sound board. Damn it! Now I gotta listen to the whole sound track again for the billionth time lol

Wasn't Time Trax unreleased? Yet that game lives on from the music

Hah, can't wait to watch this. I grew up with games that had Follin's music and it's always fun to see someone stumble across it for the first time. Especially in Max's case, since the dude is known for his reactions. This should be a laugh.

Where can I get a vinyl of this dudes work

He didnt even delve into amiga music thats a long rabbit hole once he finds out about that

I've been talking about this stream since it happened. Thanks for uploading and editing it!

Played solstice growing up with my bros and i never find anyone else who knows the game lol glad to see it represented here by Max

Im getting the thought of this dude rocking out hard on his Casio when making the music.

24:27 they went straight Pantera 😂

That jam on Plok! Goes so hard and I listen to it all the time now

I was just thinking about these songs while making dinner last night, feels good man.

I'm glad i got to see Max's reaction to some of the best nes tracks of all time

Ahh what a glorious day! That's a dozen new songs to add to my playlist. Thanks!

Just to clarify - the Top Gear Circuit A theme (18:30) was not composed by Tim Follin, but rather by legendary Amiga composer Barry Leitch. I know Max says it isn’t Follin on stream, just wanted to credit the composer!

Damn should Tim Follin compose for MvC or something?

Isn't there a 3rd follin brother? Edit: Yes there is, he was a programmer but is now an ordained reverand of the church of england, his name is mike.

I heard the whole ost from a Super Mario World rom hack and I had no regrets

Even "Time Trax", which was not even released...absolutely rips. Such amazing jams.

Hears the music for silver surfer, an absolute bangin' soundtrack, says "this game probably sucks massive ass" RIGHT on the money if I remember correctly :P

Tim Follin's music tended to be more arpeggio progressive and folk based instead of melodic lines like trationally formed music you might typically hear in say Rob Hubbard or of course Koji Kondo. It's likey one of the reasons he doesn't especially rate it because while it's very impressive at a technicall level, it's probably seen by him as a little throwaway from a lack of true identity to these still arpeggio lines. His more modern stuff with film is where he's really at in terms of his music talent I would say personally but there's never been an issue for him to write standout material. Very talent

I used to pop in 'Arcade's Revenge' just to hear that opening riff.

I also loved Tim Follin's composition in Future Tactics: The Uprising... (not sure if people still remember that obscure game for the PS2).

Tim Follin was pushing systems well past their normal limits in sound. Many of the sounds he used in tunes on the NES ended up being commonplace on systems like the GBA 16 years later.

I would watch a PLOK Hype & Rage compilation by Max

I hate that I instantly recognize the robocop music from protonjon's streams.

Tim and Geoff Follin are Amazing. I didn't know Geoff Died just found out on here. RIP :(

As a lifelong PLOK fan and the guy that introduced that game to my friends, I'm so happy to see the Follins getting their long overdue props from the wider world.

Unfortunate they didn't talk about Ghouls n Ghosts's amiga/c64 soundtrack cause there is some bangers in there

Y'all think that goes hard, try listening to some Vectorman music on the Sega Genesis. The composer made great use of the hardware to create a futuristic-sounding soundtrack.

9y old me jamming with Plok on snes, and to this day, i never found anyone outside internet that knew about that game. and it was hard AF, so i couldnt even brag about completing it

1:38 I only know this thanks to Lythero

I didnt really think about how impressive this was until Max pointed out how this type of music was made