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Hey everyone. I know you all are hot and bothered by this, but this was a masterclass trolling by the guy and it was cringe to the max to watch and i am proud of that. so please keep it nice in the comments :)
It's like a bunch of people read online things to hate and decided to go with it without knowing what the fuck they're talking about. Javascript and PHP wrote the web. Idiots...idiots everywhere...
@@abz4852 That's not what he's saying- it's ironic because JS is a horrible language and yet is in the god tier, while PHP is what a lot of the early web was built on and the web wouldn't be the same without it
Imagine putting C, the mother of all programming languages, the language that was used to write the linux, windows, and macos kernes, the language that was used to create the compilers/interpreters for most of the languages on that list, the language that is the reason python feels as it does today, in meh tier, and then putting god damn js in god tier
The reason is that they prioritize languages in terms of how we feel comfortable with it and not in terms of what the language can do, i agree that C very strong but how many people can use it? and is it the easy do write?, if say like you, Where should binary code be placed?
@@hay15z In my opinion, C is the perfect balance of low level control and abstraction. Maybe add automatic memory management and it could not get any better. But I'm an electronics guy first, so my choice of making C the language I primarily use was made while being mindful of the embedded programming that I will be doing for microcontrollers. And the manual memory management is also a positive in some scenarios, embedded programming being one of them. So if it wasn't obvious already, I'd place C on top all by itself, without equals.
@@RAndrewNeal I'm having an absolute blast writing C and I never need to google "whats the best way to do x in y" because the language doesn't have 10 features to do the same thing, which takes a lot of mental load off of me. I just need to think about the problem and how the computer should solve the problem. I just wish that linking was faster and that autotools never existed.
@@Mglunafh ah yes, the fabled YAML programmer. Natural enemy of the HTML programmer and allied with the Markdown programmer. Very fast languages, I hear.
I'd love to see the 1500 word essay written by godchad Linus himself on why this person is henceforth not allowed to come within 150 yards of any computer again.
Linus' list would be only each version of C. Starting with K&R C, ANSI/C89, C90, C99, C11, etc. He would have a trash tier, and below trash would be a tier called "Not C".
Below is a comment that was pinned under this video, please reconsider any further use of retarded language. "Hey everyone. I know you all are hot and bothered by this, but this was a masterclass trolling by the guy and it was cringe to the max to watch and i am proud of that. so please keep it nice in the comments :)"
You are talking to mainly web devs and in addition to ones who started their JS from going to React or other libraries. They have no idea on low level stuff.
Man, I don't even code (because I am a Sysadmin), but putting C in anything below God-tier really makes my blood boil. And yes, I don't use it for anything besides ricing my dwm, but knowing that one of the greatest pieces of code ever (the Linux kernel) is written in C is enough for me to be frustrated with this tier-list. This guy is the physical embodiment of the Soy Dev and I bet he drinks more soy lattes than I drink espressos (and I seriously abuse this shit).
@@SigmaGrindset-vg4oh To be fair, the Linux kernel is great despite C, not because of it. C has a lot of design decisions that are kind of bizarre in retrospect even if you agree with its core philosophy (the syntax for variable declarations, for example is a mess). 80% of the problems people complain about with C++ are only there because of backwards compatibility with C.
@@isodoubIet Many of the niceties of C++ disappear in kernel code that can’t rely on a standard library or syscalls. If the Linux kernel were written in C++, it would not be a very warm fuzzy subset of C++, and I don’t think there would be much benefit.
@@jakejakeboom "Many of the niceties of C++ disappear in kernel code that can’t rely on a standard library or syscalls. " No, not even close. You don't need the standard library to use destructors, or type inference, or lambdas, etc. Those are all language features.
Thank you for your content. I’m a career switcher at 40 and watching or hearing some many opinions about different languages and or frameworks is a real mess when you try to learn. Just want to say that thanks to your very objective points of view I understand better programming in general, even if your videos are often to advance for me 😅, and also with your great sense of humor. Kind of rare to see RU-vidrs that are doing it for the best of the community, transmitting a real love for programming, and not only to be famous. So a huge thanks I just enjoy a lot!!!
I used VB6 about 30 years ago. So long as you didn't want to stray from the default controls, it wasn't a bad UI creation tool. We did the data handling in C (I can't remember the exact variant, but it handled large data sets) and the maths computation in Fortran, then tied it all together using a VB front-end with Win 3.1 SDK calls to improve the speed of the 3D rendering. Huge step up in user-experience over the previous DOS based command-line tool.
Lets ignore the fact that he made that video just to trash on java, lets ignore the fact that he put js in god tier, lets ignore the fact that html and css even are on that list. But the fact that C somehow ended up above java was very insulting to me.
I don't know what everyone dislikes about Java. It is by far one of the most reliable languages I've ever programmed in. It does what it should, that plain and simple.
I once wrote a production application in visual basic that piggy backed distributed Excel documents downloaded from a CMS server. The purpose of the program was to take a data dump in xlsx format, read it, and dynamically fill in paperwork (in excel) based on that data. It saved the company somewhere in the neighborhood of 200-300k annually. I would be willing to bet they are still using it today - 5 years later.
It’s clear that the pinkhead guy have never worked on anything larger and more complex that a small website. Any large/complex/high load system is written mostly in statically typed language like Java, C#, Go etc.
Every time I hear this guy talk I get the impression that he’s just a Junior with a year of career wanting to appear on the internet. He doesn’t speak like someone who makes code, he doesn’t express his ideas like someone who does code. He just wants to say what he thinks is right
I program in JS and have many friends who used to code in Java and some who learned it just bc and all complained about the same thing, it’s being strictly typed to the point it was boilerplate lvl setup to code anything. Then TS came And they all love it like mindless sheep and when I said wtf would I use TS? If I wanted to declare everything and it’s types I’d used Java and literally some just got quiet. Building reusable components was made harder with the use of TS considering if you build a react component with TS it’s typed and has little to no flexibility. And some may say just use the “any” type but even that is viewed as bad practice. So TS killed the reusable aspect of react components for me.
@@Pineapplelesspineapplepizza I mean that's nonsense that it's strictly typed to the point of boilerplate. With the FE tools needed nowadays you can't even really argue from the point of complexity either JS, despite massive improvements and amazing uptake, is a shambles as an actual language. No one would design it as it is today. And the popularity of TS just cements that.
@@Pineapplelesspineapplepizza I'm pretty convinced that's why java's got a bad reputation now. Everyone learns it in school when they don't understand why a type system is good. Then on top of it they make those kids write it in notepad, not even a standard ide that can take advantage of all the cool shit static types give you in your ide. so everyone just starts out first off thinking they know the language (they don't schools teach in java 6, all the shit they teach is over a decade old now in that language.) and thinking it's awful because they ate all the beginner pain with concepts they weren't ready for in that language.
The language that got me into coding was Visual Basic for Applications (VBA) as my job at the time was 80% MS Excel. With hindsight, it is probably trash, but it taught me a lot and prompted me to make a career change and become a Dev.
VB and its variants were nice enough in their day. To me it seems like the Python of that era... it was quick to get an application up and running, and it did the job.
vba in excel is very powerful in certain scenarios, in the bank i was working the not so tech savvy staff filled out excell sheets and we made some buttons inside them which allowed them to create some statistics based on data that was available on the network
Wow, same thing here. Also, I've used AppScript with Google Sheets, and because it's web based and has security considerations built in, it's super limited, and not nearly as powerful as VBA. If you've used VBA proficiently, AppScript is garbage in comparison. AppScript (aka Javascript) running natively in a spreadsheet app would be pretty sweet though.
I've written plenty of VBA in my time. Not sure if that counts wrt actual VB. Either way yeah, it's embedded in pretty much all Microsoft products, so you can run Excel, load the object library from another program, and use that to automate outputs etc. You can also hook into other programs that use a visual basic object model. For instance you could use excel to open up Sparx EA and control it like a marionette puppet so that you don't have to use it's annoying interface and sync changes from your workbook to the cloud model.
he is just someone that needs to sell courses, and sell hopes and dreams to get to FANG, thats all, not an experienced dev, most of his content is just regurgitated Data structures and algorithms
Its pretty clear the guy loves Javascript and has never bothered to pick up any other language but did hear a lot of opinions on those other languages by people who also never tried them.
I don't really care how he ranked the languages, i dont dislike TS/JS. But its pretty clear he doesnt know what he is talking about with most languages. Its pretty clear he is trolling for views. But he makes himself look so dumb in the process. His take on Java, Go, Ruby and Rust were just ignorant.
@@ZotyLisu It's not just about JS being on top. In my opinion it absolutely shouldn't be, but it's all the other choices as well. Swift in the PHP tier, Rust in meh, praising assembly but being negative about C which is just better assembly But you're right; Usecase matters. I'm doing a lot of JavaScript/TypeScript these days cause it's the right tool for the job; But the majority of the time I write things that compile to native
One of the problems with this Tier lists, is that people underestimate many things, many many things! R and Mathlab, ARE NOT languages FOR YOU (coder), they are languages for NON-coders (I'm not saying that coders should not use them or that coders don't regularly use them, I'm saying that their main target audience is different). For ex.: I used to date a girl, that knew little about coding (nor should she), and she would code in R. She was an hematologist (thank you for that. Respect to those who work in medical professions for keeping all of us healthy), and she would use R regularly at her job. What is expected from her? - To know a lot of shit about blood. What is not? - To know about coding. So, if R, is an easy way for them to improve on what they already know about blood, with little coding, then GREAT! If you don't agree with me, that's ok too, but ... think of it this way: With all your mighty knowledge of coding, how much stuff, blood related, do you think you could do with the same amount of time for coding-training she had (let's say 3 months) if you applied that time trying to understand how blood works? (I think I've already know the answer). The same goes for Mathlab: Architects, Mathematicians, Mechanical engineers, probably people in the health industry too, etc. And the students for those professions.
I feel like if I had done the same ranking after my first year of studying CS the outcome would be similar. Strong opinions on everything, despite no experience at all in said topics.
2:37 i think the tier list boom on youtube was started by (people trying to copy) TierZoo. in the TierZoo context the strange color order makes much more sense, since you now put the most powerful and dangerous animals in the red tier and the weakest most harmless animals in the green tier
We have an old VB application that's packaged as a DLL and distributed to some of our clients who won't modernize :( Nobody else on the team was able to figure out how to even get the application compile-able on their laptops, so I took it over. I'm just grateful that it almost never needs changes, but at least it's easy to work with.
Literally saw this video sometime ago, and could not even finish it. But, your commentary on it, just somehow makes it so much more watchable. Thanks for the entertainment.
I was trying to make an automated Arch Linux deployment script in Bash with automatic drive partitioning and installing my dotfiles and all... I bit off more than I could chew
For my first job 15 years ago I had to build a batch processing tool, to run on some existing Linux boxes, written in Bash. At first they wanted us to use KornShell, but I pushed for Bash... thank God I won. But I wouldn't really want to do it again :p
Heh - I don't find PHP or bash to be objectional to code in - bash is a little arcane, but fun - and PHP would be ok if it weren't for security flaws everywhere.
I've spent some hundreds of hours on various bash-related tasks. That is time in my life I will never have back. The only reward has been wisdom. Wisdom that now enables me to turn down every bash implementation request that comes my way ever. If it's not like a 10 line script that I can't talk my way out of, it's not getting done in Bash by me.
R is where I started the coding journey and it's still unrivaled when it comes to do statistics. Is not accident that it is one of, if not THE, most dominant languages used in academia (outside of computer science maybe?). This guy cannot even fathom how easy is to do very complex shit with R, and also how many tools for very niche uses you can find for it, as someone else said.
"Why would you use C when you have C++ and why would you use C++ when you have JavaScript?" ... I... I am lost for words. This genuinely made me pause the video for a second. That might be the single most terrible take I have ever heard.
@@ZotyLisu Ah yes, C++ is torture, I guess I'll program in the language where [1, 7, 11].map(parseInt) returns [1, NaN, 3] instead. Now that's a sane language, who needs 0 == "0" to return false after all?
I remember struggling to make it through the original video immensely but this time it was way easier, who knew adding a bit of Prime would work so well? Clement seems to be a strictly javascript kind of guy
In 2003 a coworker and I designed and implemented a whole horse racing system done purely with Visual Basic. It even was integrated with speed sensors, printers, screens, electronic boards and other devices. Worked like a charm.
Because it is sad that Visual Basic is underrated. If I remember correctly, there was time when you can actually use Visual Basic script instead of javascript for the web.
@hoi-polloi1863 No I don't, only people who don't know 1. ) How to use those on error statements 2.) The difference between VB today is compared to vba. 3.) That language evolves, and they are quite stuck on that language past. Have those nightmares.
My uncle was actually a VB programmer for quite awhile. He was writing genetic algorithms for things like box packing and working with particle simulation in VB.
Hi, the thing is, we really need to stop judging legacy technologies. They were really great the time, but of course time continues and new things are invented. Though without the past those current inventions wouldn't even exist. Same for C and C++, which are super important languages, even today, regardless of their challenges around memory management and sensitivity to bugs with that. It looks like languages like the Rust (I love it) are on the way to replace a lot of this, but that's just how it goes and it's fine. Even today I write VB code at certain moments, especially VBA to be more specific. Writing it is often more frustrating goes a lot slower than in other languages, but even then it's a need sometimes. I also know that it's important to know about what VB version you are talking. Because the DotNet version of it is sooo much better and has so many improvements, it's basically a different programming language, really like it's just C# with a slightly different sintax - at a daily base I develop in C# by the way (but I am very diverse).
this man speaks to my heart as I too hate compiling anything. so PHP by that note qualifies much higher by default. Basically its how close to the metal you want to be, how much you want to manage memory, and whats your DX tolerance on the sunshine and rainbows to madness scale? thats the trifecta of perfect depending on how you answer those 3 questions. also I hate typescript.
Isn't it lovely to listen to someone who doesn't know what he is talking about but has the confidence of a demigod? :D P.S. can someone please explain to him the "horses for courses" concept and tell him that web development, game development, embedded development, AI, etc may not have the same requirements? Maye explain programming paradigms to him would be a good starting point? :D
Instead of trolling, he might be on a quest to confuse all people who are about to learn programming and check the video to see which language they should learn.
1. This tier list is the perfect pre-gym pump up tape. Your blood pressure will rise and you will be ready to punch things, guaranteed. 2. No matter what frame you pause the video on, there is a soy face. Amazing. This was probably the greatest tier list ever made.
I've met a few people who write visual basic. They tend to be people with minimal programming experience who are trying to extend office apps or make very basic GUI applications on windows.
it's funny cause a couple months ago when i started learning about programming i was beyond novice level, i barely knew what the internet was and still, even though the videos that guy made were one of the most watched in my queries i really thought he was off on so many things, i then went on to download the youtube dislike extension and my suspicions were confirmed hahaha
I know, right? The irony is that they could not be more different as languages. Java is a very well structured, strongly typed business language. JavaScript was originally designed to allow developers to have control over the DOM to change the UI using simply scripts. Somehow it's the "greatest language ever""?
I used to be like this at the start of my bachelor's. But an inverse of this, I hated Js, loved C. And had strong opinions on everything while only having touched the above 2. Now, slowly and steadily I've come to realize that understanding OS, Computer Architecture and Networking is so much more important than any of the language bs. That said, if I ever have to pick a language to work on for the rest of my career, it would absolutely be Java. It's safe and cozy especially with Intelij. Everything has its place. They are merely tools and I hate seeing job posts requiring experience in some specific stack. It takes a month max to get comfortable with any language/framework. I prefer JS over TS in the frontend, it's not critical code. Get shit done, use Firebase, it's a job, means to an end, don't write O(n^2) code, care more about security, stop jerking off to new and shiny logos.
My school taught C in the first CS class you could take. It was extremely painful to learn about pointer, malloc and struct this early on. But after taking later class: OOP, DSA and most importantly, OS, CompArch, everything started to connect, and I could literally understand the meaning behind the line of C code I would just memorize to pass the exam early on.
"Why write in C++ when you have javascript?" are you kidding? have you ever used either language even once? clearly not, if you're asking that question.
Worked in a legacy Visual Basic shop... It was a traumatizing mixture of bad programming practice (OOP/everything's a class, but in a weird very procedural kind of way that utilizes absolutely none of the benefits that OOP has, and there are some if you can believe it...) in addition to "not invented here"-syndrome and a healthy mix of everything is proprietary but not documented. This was my first "programming" job too and I have to say it nearly made me quit development entirely until I got out. I guess for marketable skills I can still claim knowledge in dealing with janky inhouse legacy code lmao.
@@McZsh Valid opinion, though I much prefer them to the ”then…end” syntax and pythons indentation as logic. I think lisp (ironically) has it somewhat correct with their parentheses and most functional languages have very clean syntax once you get around the way they work.
VBA/VB is like, a weird challange to prove that if your creative, you can do pretty wacky stuff. My personal experience, its like if someone told me to program, but i'm not allowed to use pointers but i can use object references , which kinda do the same work many times. And hey, no one sayd i can't abuse the windows kernel to its maximum since vba/vb can do function calls pretty flexible. Also the vba editor is like an overprotecting mom from the 90's who constantly wave flashy toys in front of a baby, and its only decent for debugging while you code in something else.
Without sounding arrogant, I regularly spend most of my experience at 9 or around 8 or 7. Alcohol helps me take steps down the pyramid, but this is amazing that you can put words to this experience. Smoking weed was horrible for this, but thank you. Buddy intro’d me to this channel and it does not disappoint the idea of being ecstatic (lol)
Oh my goodness. I just realized this comment was to be for a completely different video by a completely different creator on a completely different subject. I love you primeagen
Climate models are written in Fortran. I never had to write anything from the ground up, only ever edited a few lines of existing code to get different results.
I've seen a lot of languages, probably on the order of 50. C++ is the only language in which “give the programmer the option to make things on par with built-ins” is a design goal, while also giving you top-tier code-gen and if needed, allowing lowest-level stuff down to inline assembly. Lisp/Scheme are the only ones I could name that come close to the flexibility, but forget efficiency or optimization. There are a lot of new languages with better compile-time features, but how well-made are their compilers? C++ is a god-tier language. It really tries to give you everything it can.
in what way do you mean “things on par with builtins”? in some senses i think macros in rust can do that. in some completely different senses you can do it in haskell, but as i said i don’t completely know what you mean
My old coworker wrote in VB specifically for job security because no one would want to work on the same projects…. A better organization wouldn’t have allowed this but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean, not the same but similar in brevity, I've kinda been using python for patterns like `for i, (fruit, vegetable) in enumerate(zip(fruits, vegetables))` and have been looking at rust largely because it can also do this sort of thing `for (i, (fruit, vegetable)) in fruits.zip(vegetables).enumerate()` (though you might have to chuck a few extra .iter() here and there).
It's nice to see different rankings for seasoned corporate programmers. It keeps me up to date with the work force. It reminds me that its about the money and what your competitor is using too. It also reminds me that most programmers are targetting web browsers instead of operating systems. JS and TS are everywhere (but I closet hate it). Some of the stuff I use is foreign to most programmers. While editing some C++ I told them to load up UML or DOxygen. A principal engineer asked me today what is UML and DOxygen? I just skip right over that because I did not want to step on toes. I didn't want other people to think they were behind or lesser.
I love this guy. Masterful trolling, completely deadpan. Truly masterful. The only difference I'd make is that when he got to PHP he'd say "PHP is the worst thing ever, but I can't put PHP below Java so I'm demoting Java one tier and putting PHP into trash tier" or something of that sort.
He actually has to be trolling putting swift at the bottom with php. Anyone who has experience with it knows how intuitive it is. Someone coming from typescript could basically learn it in a day.
bruh this looks like a trolling, or just guy is dumb af. I've been working with different swift sdk and language itself for years and all I can say it is pretty for mobile purposes
R is definitely not trash language. Is R a proper programming language - No. It's not like Python, the syntax is a bit weird but when you suddenly have to use that one statistical technique that only a handful of people in the world know about, R is your best friend.
Yep. Despite using Python a LOT more I am still happy to know R, it's a great tool for niche use cases. Wish they wouldn't have made arrays start at 1 though XD
Visual Basic can be used for Macro's in the Office Suite. Also AutoCAD and many CAD applications have the capacity for writing macros and addins in Visual Basic. You can do some really outstanding stuff with it, so I would put it into the "Would Code In" catergory. However if you've no idea where it is used and what for I'd also probably trash it ;)
I first learned coding with ti basic, then, I wanted to use a more advanced language to use on my computer. That’s why I learned c++ as my second language. I could have learnt another language since programming isn’t my job. But I chose c++ for the fun of it lol
I worked at a sonar company where I made a VB app to test new designs of CHIRP-type transducers. That's the first and only time I've been asked to do so. That was 14 years ago? It was a C and C++ company, but the new electrical engineer with a lover of VB, lol, who also happened to be the new chief eng, so you know, you do what you're told, especially since I was only about 2 years into my career. Now I would fight back, but yeah, I have used it professionally, lol.
At my last job I wrote several thousand lines of VBA for MS Office automation. In fact VBA is the only language that I can realistically claim to know reasonably well. (I'm in accounting)
OK, he finally dickpunched me too. Swift is like PHP? WTAF. Yeah it has a type safety streak like Rust. There are no built in types. They ate the dog food and provide the same type tools used to define ints and booleans to every dev and lib designer. They bacskspaced on the whole ++i bug generation system and care about the language. The declarative UI scheme is insanely good. Imagine that editing the UI creates the code for it. Editing the code creates the UI in real time. At any time you can (LLVM) compile and run a sim of a specific iPhone, iPad or Mac model. Providing default values lets you instantly see some component work and you literally see when you f up or clear out an issue. Everything should work that way. It should be on the furthest tier possible from godforsaken JS. You can do systems programming in Swift, just like C or Rust or C++. It is not a joke language like JS or Ruby or BrainFuck. It is better than the Java/C# twins.
I had to write in Visual Basic at a previous job to automate some things in Microsoft Access (I don't work there anymore for good reasons). I only learned VB out of necessity, and now I would only write in it again alongside writing a letter of resignation.
"The entire thing was either satire or cringe and I don't know which one it is" When he said javascript is the most beautiful language I had to pause on your pause. Double pause.
Me and my beloved friend (who is living under a rock since September 2021) are watching your video and my friend Johnny number 4.0 wanted to say this about the tier list and its color scheme: _The individual's critique of the popular online tier list system, which uses red to denote the best and green for the worst, is quite logical. Generally, we're accustomed to green indicating positivity or approval, and red symbolizing negativity or caution. Therefore, the tier list's color scheme feels counter-intuitive and could lead to confusion._ _Such discomfort might resonate with many users familiar with the conventional color associations, potentially increasing the cognitive load as they reconcile these ingrained meanings with the unusual tier list color scheme._ _Moreover, the design choices of this tier list could impact its effectiveness. Intuitive understanding is vital for efficient interactions in any user interface. By subverting conventional color associations, the tier list may inadvertently add complexity, potentially affecting user satisfaction._ _That said, the tier list's unconventional use of color might be intentional, serving to create a unique and memorable user experience that contributes to its popularity and meme-like status online._ _Nevertheless, the individual's opinion highlights an essential aspect of user-centric design and the importance of adhering to cultural conventions. It provides insightful critique on how design decisions can influence user understanding and engagement, especially when the user base is diverse and widespread._
I recommend you folks to get some generic books about programming languages, read upon the concepts like OOP, Functional programming, type safety, etc. Also understanding of evolution of languages.
@@EIP674 lucky you. I am at university near Dortmund and every single person i know in NRW (who studied something with Computers) learned Java first. Most companies here want Java knowledge before anything else. A lot of companies actually use Java for backend which isnt ideal but it seems to work
Python: an unfortunate momentary lapse of keeping Guido in his cage. Go: Already went. Good luck doing anything with existing cloud-native tooling without Go. And it was created at Google to bridge C and Python, but I guess after the six months he worked there... JavaScript: It takes a maniac, to code in a maniac. Freeze me for a few years, wake me up when it accidentally escapes its own criostasis. C++: Rust in peace. Java: Deliver the next version of ElasticSearch and GTFO. Php: Extremely vulnerable code has to be written in something, may as well be Php. HTML: On the list to prove how limited the actual knowledge of the language landscape is in this video, even when trying to troll. But in a nice way. CSS: ^ TypeScript: What-effing-ever. Hard to even, when you just can't. C#: It exists. So does its eco-system. That very much exists, all the time, and it will remind you. All, the, time. Ruby: Makes python irrelevant, but oh yeah, data "scientists". To me, the best first language. C: no evil... Kotlin: Tried it. It was. Didn't use enough to say "what" it was. Agree, would use over Java. Rust: Yeah, I mean... Yeah. Obvs. Swift: Never have, never will. ASSEMBLY: Ok. Haskell: The real God Tier language on this list. Too bad we are just dumb code-monkeys, so we're probably using it all wrong. Wish I was better with it. Maybe one day I can finally decide to get better at giving up getting better at it. (Reminder: Google 11 things that make Haskell a terrible language (to feel better about myself)). Anyway, Erlang is way more psycho. FORTRAN: Real men code in FORTRAN, then visit HR to learn about revising their statements to be more inclusive, and stop age-gating. Real people code in their comfort language. The only reason I actually learned this language is because my uncle still uses it for fluid dynamics simulations, while living on the other side of the ocean and I figured it was sort of a way to feel more connected to him. Didn't work. Great, now this video made me sad. Thanks purple troll. Obvs totally in a nice way, being nice and all. LaTeX: 50 shades of purple-haired spank-a-thon. If he's running out of ideas, well then so will I. SQL: It's all fun and games until someone strings thousands of lines of nested queries together with calls to stored procedures, which call multiple other stored procedures, dozens of tables, undocumented abbreviated column names, you look to your buddy on the right who's been chasing this one bug for at least two days, he's turned into some sort of mole creature only able to respond with: "I can dig... I will dig..." But sure, would definitely code in again. Let me get my LaTeX gimp suit and cat of nine out, hang on a sec. Lua: For neovim, which should probably just be aliased to vim in common English too by now. Also seems to be pretty easy to drop into another language for an off-the-shelf language if you need some sort of scriptable engine or something. Never tried, I get off on writing custom lexers from scratch. I went insane once doing it... Still there, I like it here. MatLab: I have never wanted to exterminate someone more when he came into our first meeting with an awesome idea, and code to back it up we could use as a spring board to develop on. "Let me send you the zipfile," he said. First red flag, but from the excitement I failed to notice... Unzip, wtf is this extension, no wait, damn I have never seen this in the wild, oh my God this is MatLab, no, please, anything, even R, though also not R, but for God's sa... Wait... He's about to talk about R next, isn't he. R: Called it. Visual Basic: Or how I learned to stop worrying and scrape the bottom of the barrel. I used Visual Basic for a while a long time ago, then I met Delphi. She was way cooler. I knew I was going to do this... I did the same type of list for the last page of my resume. Hi my name is TheApeMachine, and... I'm a language addict. (Hiii Ape!). Not even sure if he is actually trolling, trying to troll but under-delivering, or flat-out serious. Why is his hair purple? Do RU-vidrs still do that? I feel like I haven't seen that in a while. If so, Prime, why is your hair just colored like hair? Kind of short-changing your audience there no? Whatever I'm over it. In a nice way.