It wasn't a negotiation.......they sent Happy and Montez over there to give the Mayans a Sit-rep on their current standing with the Mayans.....to let them know that: The Sons were pissed at how the Mayans wasted their valuable time in brokering that Truce and business deal with the Vatos Maliditos MC (The Mayans knew all along that they were planning to extirpate the Vatos) ....The Sons had interest$$$ in those deals and the Mayans fucked em over! So, Montez and Happy went over there to let them know that they (the Mayans) are not on BAD standing with them.......but at the same time.....they are _definitely NOT_ on good standing with them neither!
When you watch Sons, the Mayans come off as antagonistic when the two clubs have issues. When you watch Mayans MC, the Sons come off as the antagonists when that happens. That's brilliant symmetry and it's fun watching them do that. You know both clubs aren't the bad guys when you actually think about it, so you can choose who you're rooting for. Honestly, I'm with the Sons on this particular issue.
“whos jax teller?” brilliant line thrown in, just to show how much time has really passed since the events of season 7 as well as the legacy he left behind & those who do know it and those who are clueless like steve 💯
I wonder if the Mayans MC will be on TV long enough to include an Able prospect character? Maybe like a season 6, final season? Would Able be 18-21 ? Or nah, not enough time?
samcro can also be described as a crafty MC from what we've seen. Chibbs learned from the craftiest, Jax and Clay. wouldn't be surprised if he and the club already know the mayans offed one of their guys and are playing it slow and smart. expecting some crafty plans and moves by samcro if there's a war and looking forward to seeing how the Mayans handle it.
They had a big ass war back in the 90s that fucked up both clubs hard. Now they've been friendly so long wouldn't be surprised if Sons and Mayans share family members. No one wants a war now but if one did pop off it'd be devastating for both clubs
@@waleedrazaq1477 Yeah but Jax was the past, mayans is the here and now. And their brothers lives are at risk every day and then u get some samcro members bringing up Jax like that should sway the mayans decision.fuck that. mayans look out for one another, keeping eachother safe and all this shit about keeping the peace because of a dead bikers last wishes is wearing a little thin for some mayans mc members. SOA is one of my top 3 favourite shows. I honestly do love it but come on it’s the mayans turn to shine. Gotta stop looking at the past and especially the mayans the show, how is it going to grow as it’s own thing when, kurt sutter kept reminding fans of SOA. That’s why I’m glad Elgin james got Gilly to say this line. “Who’s gives a fuck”. Like “it’s our time, fuck Jax teller” Even though like i said Jax teller is one of my favourite TV characters of all time.
That comment "who's jax teller" Who gives a fuck that's the best bikie comment in the S.o.a and mayan series so far they praised Jax teller through the mayan series and in actuality if your not a member or a retired member or even a dead member the club don't give a fuck who you are if your not active you aint shit
Well I mean not really, there's alot of gang members out there that don't know the ones who came before no matter how legendary they were. It's reality.
Actually if the VM didn't break the truce when the shot up the Mayans during the arbitration then this wouldn't have happened, because all of the Mayan Kings agreed to bringing them in on the gun del AND throwing a little extra cash their way to ease the tension between them. I can see why Taza is so concerned about leaving Palo alive, I mean if he'll pull a stunt like attacking people you have a binding deal with who knows what he's capable of
i don't think Montez and the Sons had a choice. They seemingly had nowhere to bring the Irish guns except to the port in Tijuana. Had to go with the Vatos to fulfill Jax's final wish.
They likely can win gotta think Santo Padre isn't in China happy and them Charter they are redwood originals in charming hints why they were so badass no one stands a chance against redwood especially when they had Jax Tig Opie and them they were all skilled fighters brawlers and real good around the trigger. The mayan charter they were up against was Ramos and them plus with Alvarez who was very lethal and also the Head leader of all the mayan charters but he left the club and became the Galindo cartels right hand man hints why he organized and left the Mayans unity as 3 kings For all the charters which was Bishop, Canche, and Ramos but as we can see in season 3 we won't see Ramos nomore since EZ killed him and that's the charter that Redwood faced against we'll probably see the Pres for the Stockton Mayans in this upcoming season 4 on April 19th 2022.. but this season they're also going to introduce the Samcro charter that Santo Padre is up against in their charter which in my opinion Samcro is always badass specifically referring to the Redwood originals charter (Chibs, Tig, Happy etc). But the other Samcro charters aren't really lethal plus to me even though I get that they all were just protecting the clubs rules, legacy, and future but when they all recommended a mayhem vote on Jax they became bullshit to me I get Jax was on a rampage after Opie and Tara died but in all reality it was really self defense when he killed Jury I mean he did say "I wanted you dead Jax etc" and he went for his gun first when Jax punched Jury all he did was not hesitate or give Jury a chance to drop his gun or take his finger it was pure self self defense and a bunch of lies and mind games being played about who ratted them out to the Chinese at that moment Jax had the same assumption everyone else had not his fault that he's more vigilant nd willing to act upon the info he was given to protect his club.. and honestly Jury charter was a bunch of part timers most of them quit and left the club after the patch over cause they were too scared to be real outlaws they knew how Samcro was living and got spooked. And Jury's VP only recommended and said "Mayhem has to land" on Jax because his scary ass was just bitter and still mad about Jax killing his president. And Packer and them couldn't realize that cause all they could think about is a Pres killing another Pres rules is rules. But I don't think none of these charters except Redwood which won't be in the war with details but none of the other Samcro charters stand a chance against Santo a Padre if you ask me. They are very lethal all ex military with a lot of Combat training physically and mentally strategically with EZ on their side he's a master mind. Plus Gilly ex military specialty is in Explosives Coco before his eye injury military trained and specialty is a trained sniper Hank and Bishop ex military and they are combat trained badasses with a lot of combat experience especially brawling wise Bishop is small but he definitely stands his ground and always head butting someone to death😂😂Hank is just lethal all around with his hands after that big hotel fight he proved he can hold his own against however many he's a vicious mtfcker😂 Also Angel and EZ who aren't military but they are from the streets and definitely athletic built and know how to fight. I can't really add Taza since he might be dead in the season premiere of season 4 due to him finally telling the truth in the season 3 finale and having to face his maker and giving Bishop the choice of killing him which he might after finding out Taza killed another one of their members Rizz and was the cause of the whole war between Santo Padre and all the other mayan charters, having them kill off all those VMs and killing the gun deal that would've brought millions to the Mayans organization, got EZ shot after Ramos gave the green light on Santo Padre for the gun deal being destroyed, all to get revenge on Palo for slicing his own lil brothers throat and making Taza grieve knowing the reason was because he found out his brother was gay and had an undercover love affair with Taza which was another reason the main one at that he got his revenge and wanted to cover up the fact he was gay cause he knew if the gun deal went through eventually Palo would tell the Mayans why Taza really left the VM club when he was younger and who he really was so Taza definitely might be dead in the beginning of this new season cause he wasn't the cause of everything in season 3.
@@AllreadyBooi doubt there was any secret deal since the Mayans wiped out Palo's whole crew. if there was, it was Bishop deceiving him with the aim of killing him. bishop telling taza to let it go because they have more pressing matters to focus on like smuggling the H and with the VM wasted, the score is settled.
@@so14075 idk bro. They seemed real sneaky at the meeting they had, palo and bishop. That’s why he was the only one to get away from the massacre along with his grandmother... maybe he tells bish that he’ll let him kill his crew so that the Mayans can have their revenge for riz. plus we hear taza say that palo isn’t loyal to anyone or something like that.
@@rubencolorado8096 Hank says it right at the end “ think this has something to do with the dead reaper in the desert” Sons will have a big arc next season. I hope we get rat boy and TO
Yea, even chibs. At the end, they still have tension with mayans and is still in the gun business. Jax certainly made peace but the club still go back to their roots of violence. Kinda make his death less impactful to the SOA’s world ngl
@@whoeverthefuckiwanttobe4962 A whole lot is at stake for the SOA if they just up and left the gun business they would have to slowly work away from it
1:03 OHHHHHH?????? That’s the aftermath of the last episode of season two👀👀🤣🤣🤣 When Bishop & Santo Padre looked down on a SOA member along with the Vatos Marditos members (while Palo escaped how? Idk) & Bishop said f**k me lmao
@@AllreadyBooi alvarez was el padrino of mayans ofc some sons know but if you ask sons who are just patched there not gonna know and noone cares this show is called mayans for a reason this isnt sons part 2
@@nikkimiddlekillsday5161 Yea I know that,just who was he in general.No one knew montez had family in the sons nor even heard of the guy.i suppose we have now
Two things First; Happy is SAA for SAMCRO and Packer is Prez of SAMDINO so how can a SAA from the Mother Chapter run another chapter? Second; Montez and Happy sound very fucking sketchy Mayans have gave SAMCRO a call many times, but now because of the Vatos I have a feeling that SAMCRO is already aware of the Mayans killing a Son. We don’t know yet but I have a feeling that Vatos dropped the SOA member and pinned it on the Mayans to get the guns and payback.
The first part threw me off also. Wouldn't SAMDINO just fall to the VP while Packer is in chemo? The second part is interesting as hell. Happy is a real good follower of orders. Whatever needs to be done he'll do it. Montez has seemed super sketchy this season. There's something up with him and the leader of the Vatos (not a real revelation because of the phone call lol). It wouldn't surprise me if you're right about the Vatos killing the SOA member to pin it on the Mayans. I got a feeling Montez is some how involved in that and pulling some strings behind the scenes. Following that point...we've seen how SAMCRO deals with one of their own manipulating the system so I have a feeling if/when the club finds out about Montez he's going to "die, like a like" as Happy would say lol
@@PDLFilms Yes SAMDINO has a VP all charters need one and they been leaving out key characters for the show to make sense ( like why would Chibs leave Tig behind? ), the Vatos Prez is after the VP of Santo Padre and I have a feeling that Montez used to be a Vato after seeing how he brought up the club to that meeting in S2. SAMCRO already has a damage reputation due to Jax rampage and I wouldn’t be surprised if they used his tactics to screw over the Mayans.
@@seth_fitzgerald oh I really like the theory of Montez being former Vatos. That would be fun! Great thought. It’s going to be super interesting to see where they take this.
@@PDLFilms If SOA didn’t know about a member being out there in Mexico, then it’s either Montez lured him there or VM snatched him and killed him with Montez help. Happy should be sticking with SAMCRO as SAA , a charter should fall to the VP or another member of SAMDINO so I think Packer is the only hope for Santo Padre and the Mayans to keep the truce. I find it funny that Montez brings up Jax Teller wish being disrespected and Gilly saying “Who gives a fuck” is suspicious to me.
Samcro is having trust issues I guess because of them accidentally killing the sons member at the vatos party. This reminds me of how lin confronted jax and the sons when they went after the chinese
Helping to get the Sons out of the gun trade. Jax wanted SAMCRO but the long and short of it is that when the Mayans killed those Vatos members at the birthday party it all went belly up.
@@PDLFilms ya but even before they shot those vatos the sons were still in the gun buisness that's not the mayans fault lol chucky even asked him i thought jax wanted you guys out of the gun buisness..
@@anthonyjones3835 That's a good point. Chibs even says it's taken them longer to get out than they wanted when they sat down with the Vatos and Mayans. Maybe it's just a case of "we were this close to finally getting out and you guys screwed us." I mean, it could also be the writers just reaching to try to connect the two clubs again lol
@@anthonyjones3835 i think part of Jax's final wish was to hand off the guns specifically to the Mayans and take 10% for the first year or so. The Mayans wasting the Vatos screwed all that up. We also know the Irish can be pretty hostile to the Sons when it comes to the logistics of the gun trade e.g. forcing the guns on the Sons against their wishes for cash flow to help the IRA cause. be nice to know if the irish fucked with Samcro after the initial plan failed.
Imagine if you a younger biker in a different club an 2 other club members rolled up to your club house all hostile even tho jax is the man gillie like who gives a fuck who he is that’s realistic
@@osoarrogantkayooo5283 Not disrespect bro. Mayans just wants to be its own thing without having to live under SOAs shadow. Once Sutter was removed, it paved the way for Elgin James and this story to be told without constantly having to be reminded of SOA and Jax. Trust me bro, I’m ALL about SOA, but glad to see Mayans want to stand on its own merits. It’s all respect.
I was disappointed with this scene really because it shit on everything Kurt Created with SOA and the legacy of Jax and I get it they wanted to make it clear that Kurt is no longer involved with this show and it’s Jose’s baby now but really saying that shit about Jax, like everything he did in the last season was for nothing. Thankfully the rest of S3 of Mayans was damn good, they need to keep the SOA Part of the story alive, it’s what keeps the Og fans interested in the Mayan MC story post Jax teller
mayans had good moments and potential . TOo much focus on civil war, that cartel emily bs. they butcher up something could be lot bigger than was .NVm right of the bat Main character Ez is a rat and his father is also father of cartel guy whats a mess. One of best characters coco turn into addict . like really
@@nandinhocunha440 when they were voting him in, Tig said “TO should get the top rocker, he should not be prospecting. He’s led the Bastards for well over a decade” to which they all agreed. The final vote was he gets the reaper but can’t hold office until a year after he joins. I was bothered that the Kutte he was given showed both the reaper and a prospect rocker.
Don't like how they wanna put up mayans on a pedestal over SOA and disrespecting happy like he's a clown. This isn't sutter's story anymore that's easy to tell.
I mean, they don’t really, we’re just seeing things from the Mayans’ perspective now, of course they’ll be disrespectful to the Sons. They’re rival gangs.
In Soa, Mayans looked like those guys to whom you never want to have problems,ever. Here they look like a little bunch of kids who never knows what it needs to be done, in any moment of need :/
If Kurt was stil writing the show Soa and Mayans would of went to war Kurt got fired and the show totally changed Soa would of not pussy out like that they would of went to war
“Who’s Jax Teller” The OG BOSS who f’ing made s**t happen! For all of them! And the comment “Who gives a f**k” was some wack a** s**t- Say that s**t to Alvarez he’ll let you know who tf JAX TELLER was!
Who Jax Teller? Jax is the main character in the show Sons of anarchy, which was 1 million times better than your boring ass horribly written show called the Mayans. Teller is a character that will go down in TV history while every character on the Mayans has already been forgotten.
🤣😂🤣It's a t.v show you broke dropkick😂..if anything complain to Sutter and Elgin the actual writers,not throw your high held broken opinions around on the internet for the world to see 🤣😂
