Of course, he loved Ez ..his a real g ruled by the code .... ... ..Creepers gave up his life to protect the club 😢 for what , to find out his a rat 🐀...
Betrayed them in what way ? EZ never gave Intel or worked with cops and got potter off his back. Bishop wanted his 1 king rule EZ went and killed Ramos and canche and when the sons where coming at them EZ took out Isaac and the SB charter
@@ulisesreyes9343 if you search the word rat in the dictionary it should be a picture of ez. Dont get me wrong i really liked his character, he was really well done and everything but he was literally released from prison to colaborate with the feds. Not only that, he killed the most loyal soldier the mayans had. Creeper took everything on him just to be killed by his brother who he loved and respected. The mayans are ruthless and evil, look what they did to those innocent girls when they tought they are collaborating. Ofc they were gonna kill ez when they found out he is a rat. They wasnt in the wrong, Ez broke the code
After watching this episode last night, I've come to a realization. I realized that a lot of ppl compare EZ to Jax, but EZ is more comparable to Clay. The scene that happens immediately after this really makes that comparison come to light. I'm not gonna spoil it for those who haven't watched it yet, but what EZ does is definitely something Clay would've done in that situation.
@@JRboy23it really doesn’t. Jax was a good hearted man who fell victim to the corruption of the club. EZ was a smart man who lost himself to the temptation of power. 2 different leaders
@@fatmanzeitgeist816 Yes it does EZ had to kill a girl he only dated for a few weeks to become “dark”. It isn’t natural and is the result of bad writing his character development was rushed for example how he became president soon after he became vp in less than a season
@@JRboy23 that’s the genius behind it. EZ was portrayed as smart from the get go. We see him being used to solve situations the other club members can’t solve while he’s a prospect. Even as a prospect we see EZ diving in to help the club. When he gets patched, we see that growth in him even more only now he’s not just smart, he’s getting devious. He’s getting thirsty for power. HE comes up with the one king plan. HE is willing to exterminate Canche and Ramos even going as far as to say to Angel “I would have killed that kid (Canche’s).” That darkness was always there but the writers did an excellent job of not having it be in your face. The promotion to VP by Alvarez multiplied that for him. EZ killing Gaby (who he starts talking to at the end of season 2 and dates for the entirety of season 3, don’t know where the hell you got “a couple weeks” from) wasn’t EZ going dark. He always had that darkness. It was the writers showing us that now he’s no longer hiding that darkness. It’s completely in your face
@@jamalhiley8007 I agree lol he shouldn’t have been spilling club secrets but it parallel real life lol we’ve all said too much around a chick we liked
It actually made me laugh when EZ made it seem like Creeper was attacking him, it was unexpected. This was overall a better episode of the season for sure.
the day creeper let kody/katie in during the NA meeting sadly was the day his fate was sealed he shouldve known, but like she said he was isolated, alone & a wounded animal & he just wanted to feel something, they capitalized and he took the bait & look where it landed him
I have been thinking about the fact that EZ is alot like Clay. Watching him rise up the club, his story resembles a lot of what they said was Clay's rise to power. This is why I am now investing in seeing him pull it all off. I think that will be what makes Mayans interesting to me. Seeing a golden boy college bound, turn into a ruthless and powerful MC leader. I think if he dies or goes to jail, I think that is Sons all over again. However, if they show how EZ actually ends up fully working and committing to Lincoln Potter (thus getting protection from the Feds). Also, setting up were the Sons MC takes the blame for killing that investigator going after Potter, thus having the full weight of the Federal government come down on the club could be an interesting twist. Through SOA getting taken out, and Miguel being set up somehow as well, it puts Mayans in the position to fully take over. I don't think Angel will survive. He is the more Jax like character in the story. A man caught between two families. I think what will really make the ending sad, is if EZ and his girl ends up raising Angel's kid, basically setting up almost a parallel story to Sons.
Exactly wat I was hoping for something to set it up being different then the SOA series cuhz if eazy dies hoes to jail or loses the club wat was really different
Yep agree ....He should of he kept his mouth shut🤐 to literally tell Ez that his ratting him out to club is a dead deal ...Poor creepers didn't think smart...😢
I found it slightly evil that EZ did this I only think this because creeper was one of the few who welcomed him big time , it was a huge shocker for me
The pain in creepers face is hard to see. From what i understand in the outlaw MC world you are not allowed to join if you have EVER been affiliated or worked in law enforcement so rat or not , EZ is in violation of that rule and knows it which means he's still fcked it just sucks that in their MC rules and way of life there is no buande or if and are buts about that sort of thing, to them it doesn't matter if you kill a hundred cops and show that your career as a cop is long behind you , if you were ever law enforcement you are done. So there's really no way out for EZ and its tragic because he truly is commited to the club.
Creeper was dumb for letting him know that he knew. Of course he was gonna start plotting on you so you couldn't give him up. He should've just shut up and told Hank in a later call.
I found it interesting that he’d tell the rest of Santo Padre that EZ, their leader, was a/the rat. But didn’t mention that Kody was a fed and not to let her around before he even found all that out about EZ.
I mean kody isn’t a Mayan so it really wouldn’t matter she wouldn’t know shi unless creeper said something…said it makes sense for him to get mad at the PRESIDENT over your club
So did Creeper lol. Nobody told him to turn himself in. Should’ve taken the issue to the club. Probably would’ve had Codi slept after that and a done deal.
Everybody keeps talking about how dark Ez is and can’t be redeemed but he didn’t even deny the Accusation he accepted it only asking creeper to give him more time to put the club in a better position than when he found it everybody says he’s driven by the thirst for power but I don’t think that’s the case
The whole 1st season was creeper, angel and coco working against the club cause it was "in its best interests but the club didnt know it" kind of thing. Now acting fully commited
Creeper was holding on to something that was dead a along time ago, the Mayans with the exception of Angel cared about EZ's fentanyl money not "morals". Creeper wasn't getting anytime soon anyhow.
@@xbacongrizzler6929 It would be one thing if EZ was already a member and then got threatened to be a rat. A dog on a short leash can pull in the wrong direction. Joining as a rat meant that it was always going to be a death sentence.
It was when he turned himself in. Instead of taking the issue of his lady being a fed to the club. Even tho he already had taken her around there prior to turning himself in. Idk they ruined the last two seasons with rushing everything and leaving a lot of unanswered questions and wasted a lot of storylines. Like Galindo being EZ’s brother lol. That didn’t get anywhere
Good point. EZ is a god right now after killing Issac's goon at the meeting. He can easily spin his informing only on Galindo and chances sre the club will believe him.
Pretty much. This chapter of the Mayans were impressive morons and hypocrites, starting fights instead of getting paid, and killing their own after he puts them on top (which ensures that they only fall from a greater height).
I think EZ is filled with a “victory disease.” His dark personality trait is manifesting with this victory disease making him a loose cannon & a wrecking ball. When Creeper revealed that he knows that EZ is a snitch, you can see the hurt and the betrayal on his face. He threw all of his life away for EZ and only to find out that he is a rat and he ends up in solitary so he doesn’t speak to Hank. Was EZ right to do what he did or was he wrong?
EZ was right to do what he did. He had the vision and ability to guide the club. The other Mayans just pissed it all away. And hell, Creeper can't claim to be an outlaw saint, as he only got the intel from a fed. The Mayans are their own worst enemies. Even without the raid, killing EZ would have caused the club to crash and burn.
@@dmi6101 EZ is responsible for everything that happened. He did not have the reputation that Alvarez had, and he lacked the experience to think ahead of the game at that moment. All he had was short-term victories and not long-term ones, and the things that he did were good for the Mayans as a whole, but that does not excuse the two things that he did that go against MC rules and laws. Does the dialogue also catch your attention? All he goes on about is taking the club to greater heights, ushering in a new era, and attempting to do things that would make the Mayans more prosperous; that is a sign of Custer syndrome, individuals who dream of glory and fame without realizing they're putting those around them in danger and causing them to die in the first episode; that was the initial indication of it. Members in high-ranking positions expressed their concerns and doubts about the plan, and one by one, Mayans began to die, and people began to pull out. That is not a good look for someone who sits at the top of the organization.
@@seth_fitzgerald When they killed EZ, he had just finished the war with the Sons, and had formed a partnership with the Grim Bastards and Iron Wall. Neither of those will last past his death. And killing Creeper? For F**k's sake, they let a new patch kill a Mayan PRESIDENT. They seem to follow the outlaw code only when it suits them. And they screwed every Mayan in jail, when the Iron Wall takes revenge.
@@oredixon1276 that is true for some reason I got confused plus it’s not like Ez has the cops informed about the club seeing what him and angel did to potter, creeper is a hypocrite lol
@@ulisesreyes9343 to be fair, he did not know she was a undercover. She posed well as a civilian. She confessed to Neron/Creeper that she was with the feds. EZ only did it for his freedom. He did not give up the Mayans. The main goal was to take down the Galindo Cartel for Potter and the feds. He never did it obviously which is why Jimenez had to be killed. Like Lucky said, the feds don’t bust you immediately, they build a case and then come down hard. They already knew all the kills they have done even without EZ’s info. They had every kill down from season 1 up until the middle of season 4
The communication skills in SOA and Mayans baffles me. The characters speak stuff out loud that would be more vital to their survival to stay hidden and yet refuse to talk about stuff that could have cleared up and prevented a whole mess of problems. Hot take if Taza and Juice just told their clubs about the potential blackmail material their enemies could use hanging over their heads, with Juice's dad being black and Taza being Bisexual. So many problems they experienced could have been prevented.
Maybe, maybe not. Jax did toss out the old rule of 'No Blacks', but being gay might be a bridge too far for the Mayans. And well, they are criminals. The clubs try to be about brotherhood, but a weak link is a weak link.
@@dmi6101 Jax tossing the old rule had to go through a unanimous all club president vote first cause it was a bylaw. And because it passed so easily it makes me wonder if it was like one of those bylaws the club just didn't bother changing cause anyone who was black and wanted a part of the life either joined up with a club like the grim bastards or made their own set. Now with Taza. I respectfully disagree, cause first of all him being bisexual had nothing to do with his outlaw skills as sexuality never actually has an impact on ability. He made his way to VP and was a huge earner for the club while also being the reason they had American Indigenous allies and safe spots. Also at the time when it was the most critical, mayans were working on a deal with SAMCRO who's VP was dating a transgender woman. So they probably wouldn't care. The only issue was Paolo of The Vatos. But everyone would have been like who cares there is millions on the table, Paolo either get in line and get over it or we will replace you with another Vato. After all it was 2 MCs against 1 and Santo Padre alone already kicked the Vatos ass once.
EZ got put in a lot of messed up positions and none where his fault most of the time he was cleaning up someone else's mess I feel for creeper but he just didn't know it was so much more to what we had done
@@el_killorcurehopefully the will see it that way. Sadly the only way for ez to walk away clean from this. Is to kill creeper and JJ cousin, who he don't even know about
Ez being an informant back when he was a prospect so irrelevant. He literally killed the fed that he was snitching too. Hes done nothing but kill everyone thats ever been a threat to the club since he became a member.
Lmao being a informant in the criminal world is not irrelevant. Regardless of circumstances he made a fucking deal with the dea and fed them information untill a potter told him to kill his cousin… if potter didn’t save him he would of still been feeding information on the cartel or he would of been back in jail and labeled a rat… he was a RAT. You just dont get it it
@@ripper9362 who cares though? Jax teller made deals behind the clubs back. It's literally no different. We already know what ez has done and what he is capable of and what he will do. Regardless of what deal he took he never even gave them any information.
@@chrisrambo8142 every member of every criminal organization ever cares, thats who cares lol rats aren’t toleranted, and yes he was a rat because he gave information on the cartel. Rat lol just killed one of the most loyal members of his own club to protect himself. Rat. Rat. Rat behaviour.
I was always annoyed by this greatness that EZ was chasing and others were ranting about. It really killes their motivation for me, as it sucks. The war with the Sons was also a load of crap. They could have made it any other club but it had to feel heavy. So many wasted storylines the lsst few seasons. So many poor resolutions and forced deaths just for the shock factor. So many characters that were done dirty... Bishop was turned into a drunk shadow, Alvarez had this family storyline just to keep the man on the show and draw audiences, Miguel Galindo felt like he had more presence last season where he appeared like 3 times, Isaac was absolutely wasted and they tried waaay too hard to make him psychotic, Felipe was still there just to be killed off, Nestor was downgraded to hell as a prospect. My biggest gripe was Happy - they just brought him back to kill him for the shock, and it felt so forced and redundant - they left the guy roam for 3 seasons, so when I saw him I thought why the hell are they coming for him now? I thought they had carried on and let him live after all that time, but nope - we have to kill a familiar Son. And of course kill Packer off screen as well, because Robert Patrick is too expensive to bring just to lie in a hospital bed dying, but we still need to kill some more known Sons. Thank god they didn't bring Tiggy or Chibs just to waste them too... And on top we had a totally unneccessary bunch of amazon biker girls that were supposed to be stunning and brave, but felt so dumb and forced.
@@Finesser-94 says the kid who didn’t even watch SOA. Ez is a rat and a novice. Jax killed his own mother and went to war against the Irish mob, the cartel , the Koreans etc.. watch the show kiddo
Any form of cooperation with the feds is considered snitching. Juice thought he was doing good by the club in soa by working with potter cause they told him they just wanted the cartel and not the club. Look how he ended up.
They fr butchered Ezs arc. Season 4 should've really focused on EZ descent instead of having 5 million subplots. This whole heel turn doesn't feel earned at all.
This clip gave me the same feeling I got watching Juice confession to Jax on what really happened to Tara! Very, very, very Intense, this whole episode was Intense, God I’m goin to really miss this show, ONLY 5 episodes left 😢
@@mastadon2268 yeah I agree It was more Intense with Juice/Jax, that was a special scene due to It not being a scripted scene, that was both of them with raw emotion and they just went with It.
wow they made Mayan jus a shit show didn't they in the later season atleast samcro did a lot better jus goes to show you that they have no idea where to go with this show n jus making it a soap opera
Killing the fed that you're snitching too makes up for that honestly. Regardless of what deal he took before he even joined the club, he never told on anyone. This is so irrelevant lol
