So after reading all of your comments, it seems like you guys definitely see the difference, and it's a lot more noticeable when you go back to using 60hz after using 120hz for a long time. Now I didn't talk about this in the video but I did use the A52 for more than 3 weeks as my main phone (because I wanted to make a review video and I did), but I'll be honest when I went back to my iPhone XS I did not feel like it was laggy or anything like that. But again I don't disagree with the fact that 120hz is smooth. Even in my A52 review video, I said that "the difference is certainly noticeable" but I do believe that you really have to look for it, and once you train your eye to see the difference, then yes, you immediately see it. There's no doubt about that, for sure! But I will also again emphasize that so far I've used 120hz on Samsung phones only, I haven't yet used it on an Apple device, but I do plan on buying the iPhone 14 Pro so that might change my opinion, and I might revisit this topic again in the future. Let's see how things go 😁 But regardless I really appreciate you guys sharing your experience, I LOVE it!! :)
I have played with the 13 ProMax for a video for about a week. And I have to say the difference was very noticeable compared to my 12proMax. But my buddy didn’t seem to see it.. he said it was a gimmick until I showed him the difference in slow motion then he said “okey it’s there, but not noticeable” so I guess for some people there is no difference. And for some it’s awesome.
I agree that for some it might not be noticeable. But I can difenitly see the difference, although I do think you really have to look for it, and once you train your eye to see the difference, then yes, you immediately see it. There's no doubt about that, for sure! 😁
Hehe. You had to show the difference in slow motion😅. That's really the only way to see the difference.. I've been using 60hz on Samsung for years now. Switched to 120hz(on Samsung) and can't really feel any difference. I think what makes a phone faster and smoother is actually the software and processors used. I've seen 120hz on a very midrange xiaomi device and my 60hz on Samsung(better midrange 😅) was completely faster, smoother and better. Where the 120hz might stand out is while playing games that support upto 120fps. (my opinion)
But you didnt noticed that iphones go up to 90hz only LOL, scroll with screen recording on and off and see the difference, interestinglly iphones use 120 when screen record is on only
I feel like most people won’t notice a difference between 120hz and 60hz until they use a 120hz device as a daily driver for some time. When I got my iPad Pro, I didn’t have that wow-effect until a few weeks into using it when I went back to my iPad Air and it felt really laggy. Now I notice that difference every time I look at a 60hz iPad. Same thing with my phone, my XR and the 11 Pro I had never felt slow or laggy until I got a 13 Pro.
You see that's why I think 120hz is just as much of a software feature as it is a hardware feature because I used the A52 for more than 3 weeks as my main phone but when I went back to using my iPhone XS it didn't feel laggy or anything like that. But that could be because I used Samsung's 120hz and went back to Apple's 60hz. So it's totally possible that Apple's 120hz is better than Samsung's 120hz because of different software optimization and that's why maybe for you going back from your iPad Pro to iPad Air felt like a downgrade. This is also why the word "Maybe" is very important in the title. I hope that makes sense 😁
@@imSpixel well I am using iPhone 12 and Samsung S20+ on a daily basis. As soon as I put my sim in iPhone 12, and even for few minutes I pick s20+ it feels smooth and more fluid that I put my sim back. Even though I like and love iPhone and Apple ecosystem. Its only when I use Galaxy buds in my ear and my ears start paining after a while I put my sim to iPhone and gladly put my Airpods which I comfortably wear for hours. Its a Eyes vs Ear battle for me on a daily basis. Who do you think will win.
I am using OnePlus phone with 90hrtz display and it's quite easy for me to differentiate between 60 and 90hrts. I feel like high refresh is an important part of my experience now
I think once you train your eye to see the difference then you immediately see it. I can see it too! 😁 But like I said in the video, it's not that I can't see the difference, it's just that for me at first it wasn't quite as apparent as I expected it to be, which makes me believe that if someone hasn't used a high refresh rate screen before they might see that "wow" factor :)
The difference for me between 60Hz & 120Hz is HUGE. I can tell the difference between the two instantly, every time I use a friend's phone i immediately notice it. Because their phones are mostly set to 60Hz which hurts my eyes 😭, I'm using a Pixel 6 Pro (Set at 120HZ). I will NEVER in all seriousness buy any other phone that's less than 120Hz. And i've noticed that a lot of people tend to overlook these differences in FPS. They just don't see it & it pisses me off so much 🤣🤣 I don't know how they can't see it!!
I think it's definitely a gimmick. I toggled 120hz off on my phone due to some compatibility issues with apps, and I used to turn it on again when I quit the app, but eventually I just forgot. I can sort of notice it, but it doesn't affect my use at all. IMO anything past 60Hz is diminishing returns. Good animations at 60Hz still look fantastic.
Yep. In my opinion, high refresh rate on a smartphone screen of less than 7 inches where you are not playing console/pc quality games is definitely overrated. I tested this for myself using 120hz phone for 6 months, then tried using another with 60hz. I did see a difference, but not as drastic as many people claim. It mostly is in your mind. And just what the heck do people do with their sub-7inch phone screen? Almost always it is vertical scrolling. And that difference is only really noticeable if you scroll really fast. Is that what people do.... scroll like mad up and down just to justify having higher refresh screen? It is definitely better and nicer to have the option for higher refresh rate, no doubt. But is 60hz so unusable as some people claim? For me, absolutely not. And I think 6 months of using a phone strictly in 120hz was more than enough time for me to get used to it, and yet, when I tried going back to 60hz after all that time, I had no problem with it. High refresh rate is just a trickery with your eyes, and has absolutely nothing to do with lag or raw performance. And this is coming from someone who is ultra sensitive to lag.
This had me thinking as I did try a 90 hz refresh rate before but on an entry/mid range level phone and though it is 90 hz refresh rate, I did notice a drop in frame rate maybe because of it's hardware. I'm even considering a phone with a 120 hz refresh rate. I'm still using my Note9 with a 60 hz refresh rate and it still feels smooth. Whether a 120 hz refresh rate was worth it for me or not, only time will tell.
Agreed. I sold my 13 Pro max and got myself a Xs Max and honestly about the only thing I miss is the superior camera. The 60hz on the Xs max is smooth and buttery enough for me. Not saying that there isn’t a ‘difference’ in the fluidity but it isn’t a dealbreaker. Especially if you’re not a gamer it wouldn’t matter at all.
That was 8 months ago, Brae. This Jan I gathered enough money and bought myself a 14 Pro Max, and man I wus disappointed! The darn ‘dynamic Island’ is just a gimmick and intrudes more into your viewing experience than the old notch. So I sold my 14 Pro Max and was lucky enough to find a second-hand 1tb 13 Pro Max which I bought. I will never buy another iPhone until they completely remove the notch.
120hz is actually the least important thing if you're just gaming on phone. Most mobile games only support 60 FPS so 120hz screen will also only show 60hz. 120hz on phone is for people who like to scroll giving them smooth experience
Even I have the same experience. Previous I was using a phone with 60hz. And I never had complain about the refresh rate being very less. 2 weeks ago I bought new phone with 120hz and I used it. It's smooth and I can tell the difference between 60 and 120 but it's okay. It's not like I can't live without 120hz but it's always better to have something better to experience.
Well...I've always thought the difference is obvious. But it is more noticeable on much larger screens like monitors and laptop screens...a number of people might not notice it on smartphones. I do though
I certainly notice it too, but I do think that you really have to look for it, and once you train your eye to see it, then yes, you immediately see it, there's no doubt about that for sure! :)
I saw only a little difference from 60 to 90 hertz slightly. But now I fixed my phone to 60 Hertz and it's not coz the battery. Midrange phones with midrange Cpu and GPU have many problems then played videos in automatic mode. My phone Honor 90 suffers from constantly frame drops then playback videos etc. So I reduce the resolution and fixed it to 60 Hertz and voila. Issues resolved. More important in these days for me is better eyeprotection screen with reduced flicker that sadly many of the big Guys like Samsung, Google and Apple ignore until now.
The majority of the time a phone with 120 refresh is actually doing it way way slower to preserve battery life. It’s only during fast moving images like games and sports. Stuff like that.
It is a big difference in games. In everything else, not so much, just a nice to have. I have a 120hz Samsung, but I'd kinda like if it was 90hz instead, to conserve some battery. From my experience in PC gaming, there's a noticeable difference going from 60 to 90, but not so much from 90 to 120... diminishing returns.
glad you noticed my comment! when the Instagram app on iPhone 13 Pros wasn’t optimized yet and was showing 60hz refresh rate in scrolling, just because the 13 Pros were advertised as phones with a higher refresh rate screens, people weren’t aware of the unoptimized app and concluded that it was smoother, even though it’s still at 60hz! (of course the touch sampling rate has increased but it’s not the refresh rate).
You're just getting used to it. I just updated my note 9 to an s20 ultra and damn it is a massive difference. But about 3 months into ownership of my s20, I started getting used to 120hz... So I thought it was like a gimmick or it was started to break, but I powered up my note 9 to dig up some of my old files and that old 60hz HURTS my eyes now to look at 😂 It looks so bad and painful when scrolling and immediately going back to the 120hz s20 ultra instantly put my mind back into the wow factor of 120hz.
The thing is having a 120hz screen but not having an optimised UI for it also heavily affects how you perceive it. For me, I definitely saw a difference on android phones like Samsung but on the iPhone 13 the Pro motion was only noticeable when scrolling fast or pushing the phone, SO I do think the animations and other aspects definitely make up for the lack of 120hz in older iPhones cus they had a 120hz touch sample rate, but android phones felt comparatively choppier because of not having a higher touch sample rate and unoptimized animations and UI elements.
I have a galaxy S20 plus, and i was excited about high refresh rate screen ! Especially after seeing that on the ipad pro ! BUT, my phone feels slower after turning 120hz on, i'm disappointed 😢
Unless somebody is very into mobile gaming, I don't see the point of caring about 120hz. It's not like people watch videos on the internet above 60 fps anyway.
@@imSpixel yes from my personal experience I've tried 120hz budget / midrange phone Right now i use a s20plus and i can only imagine how much better it must feel on displays that have adaptive refresh rates ( LTPO ). Flagships provide much better touch response and almost no stutters or frame drops .
When I used my sister's iPhone 12 mini for the first time I was blown away by the smoothness (having used a Mi 8 for 2 years). Now I have a Galaxy S20 and when I got it, again, I was amazed by the smoothness. Then I tried using the iPhone 12 mini and my mi 8 again and it all seemed a bit choppy. So I guess it depends on the person... And I don't even think Samsung animations are locked on 120 fps, so I imagine how smooth the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max are
I honestly didn't get the "wow" factor as well. I use my ipad pro daily, I draw professionally so I use it pretty much all day. and I also have an iPhone xs max. and maybe I'm just so used to both of them that I really don't notice any difference. which is weird, cause when I switched my 60hz pc monitor to a 75hz one I actually notice that very slight difference. it's very little but I noticed it unlike on my iPhone and iPad. 🤣
Ok 120hz is smoother animation, but maybe subjective thing about perception is actually how different people value clearness of quickly moving image(icons) or text. I for example do not care or even try to read quickly moving text, so 120hz is a gimmic for me. But need to admit 60 vs 120 hz on android mid ranger I feel much more than on flagship iphone or galaxy tab.
Idk what this guy is talking about bro, i recently switched from 60hz to 120hz and its a huge difference everything feels way smoother scrolling opening app etc. its a day and night difference.
Umm I can say this: For ColorOS, the experience is mixed. The phone UI operates at 120 fps. But certain apps, for example RU-vid are still capped at 60 fps. Given that I use RU-vid often, I feel like it becomes less noticeable after constant switching between apps. (BTW I own a Realme X7 Max which has a 120Hz AMOLED display)
IMO , it's more like the difference between 60hz and 90-120 hz is absolutely visible/noticeable and it can be that ' ' wow factor ' , but the difference between 90hz and 120hz isn't that big , it's hardly noticeable...plus i feel like higher refresh rate screen are not utilised much right now. We use it while scrolling or gaming (if the game supports it), but most of the time like if we're texting someone , or watching a movie (Netflix, RU-vid etc) ,that refresh rate does no good than draining the battery. So my conclusion is that you should consider the 120hz devices for future proofing yourself but if your budget doesn't allow you...you can easily consider other good options like the iPhone 11 (iPhone 11 is still miles better in performance, cameras and reliability than most of the Android devices in the 30-40k price range
I was stuck with 60 fps phones till this year when i decided to get a new phone. At the start i really saw the difference. But know i'm very used to it and i don't mention the difference that it was at the start.
I have my phone set to 60hz sence I bought it 1 year ago. Redmi note 11 pro 5g. That phone has 120hz but that's not why I bought it... I woud rather buy 1-60hz variable then 60-120hz. To me, battery life is way more important than feel of smoothness. 👍
How 120hz is overrated? Technically and logically of course it’s an enhancement. People who never use high refresh rate display or monitor they won’t understand it. High refresh rate seems definitely more native to eyes and less eyestrain. I don’t get how people is not a fan of these display tech. It renders more info in every second.
the main thing is that when u move from 60hz to 120hz u dont feel that much difference but when u stay on 120hz for a month and then use 60hz u actually see the difference
I totally agree! I don't see a difference at all. I just been living with my iPhone 14 pro with 120 hz for a year now and I did not notice any difference then so I thought that I may do it now, a year later so I disabled the 120 hz on my phone down to 60 hz. I really looked for a difference but I couldn't se any diffrence at all! Is there something wrong with my eyes??
Only things that 120hz might be somehwere useful on phones is scrolling text but lets be honest its onlt for the scrolling part and its not like you can read text while you are scrollin even if its 120fps 😅
Well, for me jump from 60hz to 120hz from a phone screen is not noticeable unless when slowmo or good eyesight i guess my eyesight isn’t really that great hahaha. Tbh, I only notice the jump from 60hz to 120 hz in a bigger screen like maybe a monitor or tv. Though either way people have different pov so it’s matter of perspective i guess.
In my opinion the thing with 120hz Its cool the first time but then you get used to it. But when you switch back to 60hz you notice it but then you get use to it This was going from a iPhone 7 to a S21 Ultra then back
You're not alone. I feel dizy too. So in my samsung phone, there is bixby mode in which gamemode is there. I put motion smoothness at standard rather than adaptive smoothness 120hz. I played a lot games amd lot games didn't optimised for 120hz display
You can't tell difference because you didn't didn't use 120hz phone for long period of time like 2/3 months..if you do you can instantly say if this is 120hz or 60 .....
Last year i had the A53 and the S22 Ultra with 120Hz and i switched back to apple with the iphone 13. I had a little bit of trouble the first days with the 60hz display of the iphone but now i dont really miss it because for me the 60hz on my iphone feels more natural compared to the 120hz on the 2 samsung phones.
120hz with android 12 feels more smoother and fluid but when i switched to 60hz i felt little bit jitter and lag because i was daily driving it from 6 months. A person can swift from 60hz to 120hz but after using it for a while we can't switch from 120hz to 60hz. And it's a fact.
Bro you have got to be kidding me right now! The reason why you think it's overrated is because you're not getting it! The phone is constantly being throttled to 80 HZ that's why you feel that way. And you're right, there is not much of a difference between 60 and 80 HZ which is why you feel this way. It's supposed to be 120 HZ with the iPhone but that has not been the case except gesture, animations and a very few specific case scenarios. This has been going on for 4 years now on top of that. When you compare any Android device that has 120 HZ to any of the iPhones with 120 HZ, you will notice a massive difference between the two
Bro you can see 120hz difference in other phones Except Samsung Ans apple Use any other companies phone both with 120 hz and 60hz You will notice the difference As Samsung And Apple are already very well optimized That even 60hz on them work quite smooth
i upgraded from the iPhone SE 2020 to the iPhone 13 Pro. I can tell you, the moment I turned that thing on it was this dramatic difference. My wife has a iPhone 13, completely new and it feels slow when I use it. It’s just so obviously different.
If you are playing Geometry Dash like me, 120Hz makes a MASSIVE difference. Oh, and you should get an Android because iPhones are still locked to 60Hz in GD.
Okay for me I was able to notice a difference between 60 and 120hz when I got my hands on the samsung galaxy S21was very smooth to my eye ,As compared to my phone which only had 60hz
The problem is they gave option to have 120hz but the software wasn't spitting out 120fps. notice how scrolling and playing in 60hz are totally different experience. Games looks nice in 60fps - 60hz but scrolling looks bad because they're only giving us like 15 fps that's why it looks shit
Try Xiaomi, using Mi 11 lite 5G it show how the toggle 60hz to 90hz. Its just the minor significant leap up when browsing. Still image doesn’t really effect, just more to gaming i think and scrolling. Well it’s not a need, but if the phone does have it, its a push. But with exorbitant pricing of a basic iPhone. Guess pro motion should be included in a luxury brand imo since with android mid tier phone have a basic of 90hz fs😅
I don’t care much for 120hz. Isn’t gonna make videos go more than 60 fps not to mention most phone games aren’t even 120hz compatible. It’s literally a gimmick. I had both a 120 and 60 hz and no difference watching movies or playing mobile games.
