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Mazak Lathe OD Threading Mazatrol 

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Mazak Lathe OD Threading Mazatrol. Here's a short video about OD threading on a sample part. I also show you the different methods to re-run a thread to dial in the size.

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@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 4 года назад
Warning! I forgot to mention in the video but DO NOT change the speed on the override or in the program during or after the machine has cut the part on these older controls. The machine will loose the thread lead if you alter the speed and it WILL scrap your part. BTDT. Only make changes to the spindle speed after you get the part off the machine.
@derick3482
@derick3482 3 года назад
you should've shown how to do a spring pass cause that's what you need right?? just clean it up
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 3 года назад
@@derick3482 I didn't think about it at the time, but yeah easy to do on Mazatrol.
@saravananj384
@saravananj384 3 года назад
Thanks sir
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 3 года назад
@@christophercolumbus8944 The way Mazatrol works is you need to have a minimum of 3 passes in the threading line.
@bobbymarkiewicz4933
@bobbymarkiewicz4933 2 года назад
Thanks for your time. You save me time by not digging though 20 year old manuals! Thanks again.
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 2 года назад
You're welcome.
@ronaldmadican2393
@ronaldmadican2393 4 года назад
This is the first youtube channel I have subscribed to. I am just blown away with how well you explain everything. We have a T2 Mazak so your videos will help train our newbies. Thankyou very much.
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 4 года назад
Thanks for the positive feedback!
@christophercolumbus8944
@christophercolumbus8944 Год назад
what control do you have? do you use EIA a lot?
@thomasmedlin2881
@thomasmedlin2881 2 года назад
Phil, I am just starting with Mazatrol Programming and I am learning a lot from you. Thanks
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 2 года назад
Glad to hear its helpful.
@russguppy8761
@russguppy8761 3 года назад
Excellent video. I like that you got closer to the Nazak screen so I can see better. Thanks
@alejandrodavilacortes5772
@alejandrodavilacortes5772 2 года назад
Thank you sir. I found this very helpful 👍
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 2 года назад
Glad to hear it.
@billmcmahon9697
@billmcmahon9697 3 года назад
Thanks for the quality video, you cleared up some finer points for me.
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 3 года назад
Cool. Thanks for the compliment.
@phitran8980
@phitran8980 2 года назад
It was nice video, very informative, and successfully delivery all the information to make an OD thread on the mazak. Hey, do you know how to chase the thread on the mazak lathe? Thank you.
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 2 года назад
Trying to pick up an existing thread is very difficult. Newer Mazaks have an option to make that easier. I've never tried it myself.
@sudeepanchan
@sudeepanchan 4 года назад
Nice videos Phil. Fully informative. Thanks. I m a Mazak turning machine operator. new comer to Mazak from Fanuc Using Slant Turn 600 Smooth G. I hav not seen tool shape in simulation . Only path graph we r using till now. Is there any Idea to have tool shape also in simulation as you r using.?
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 4 года назад
Unfortunately, Mazak took away that feature in the later controls. You have to do a simulation to see the tool now.
@mansoorahmed3337
@mansoorahmed3337 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the awesome videos. I am trying to make internal threading toolpath for which the tool should retract to X21mm and then come out of the hole. But in actual, it first retracts to a smaller number i.e. X17.3mm and then go to X21 and then come out of the hole. X17.3 will cause my threading bar to smash in to workpiece. Do you have any idea what could be wrong and how it can be avoided? Would appreciate that. Cheers.
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 5 месяцев назад
On the T-2 and T-3 controls, you need to put PNo0 line ID size same as the minor diameter of the thread. Check out my ID threading video.
@Docaga1978
@Docaga1978 4 года назад
Phil, can you do rethreading, if need to rework the workpiece that already took out of the chuck?
@ceugepios
@ceugepios 3 года назад
Hey Phil Thanks for all you videos they've been a big help, Do you have any tips on Thread clipping in Mazatrol?
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 3 года назад
I've never attempted it. I'm sure it can be done with a groove tool running a short threading process.
@ceugepios
@ceugepios 3 года назад
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 Hey Just thought I'd pop back in here and share what I found, if you want to thread clip a UNC thread it can be done by running a threading cycle with a start point a half pitch farther out than your original threading cycle, and ending at a full pitch in! keep your exit angle at 60 degrees and your grooving tool should have it clipped!
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 3 года назад
@@ceugepios Thanks for the info.
@ryanroberts6362
@ryanroberts6362 Год назад
Not sure if you will see this since it an old video. Do you have anything that explains how to add a thread relief, specifically for my situation when the thread relief is against a wall. Thanks.
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 Год назад
I have not made a video regarding a thread relief even though I do them all the time. I did a grooving thread relief on my ID threading video. For OD threads, I usually use a VNMG 332 insert tool and program a relief groove at a 45 degree angle behind the thread.
@ryanroberts6362
@ryanroberts6362 Год назад
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 I’ll try that, thank you
@АндрейСугойдь-у5у
@АндрейСугойдь-у5у 3 года назад
Дажэ хлопцы у Беларуси глядяць, дрэнна язык разумею, Але Фил маладец, пахожэ што шарыць
@jimmonk7936
@jimmonk7936 4 года назад
Great video. I run a Nexus 350 II. Threading isn't my most fun thing to do. We have added the speed override option which works great for modifying speed during the thread cycle. The only thing I never figured out is the touch off of the tool on the tool eye vs the offsets. They are never theoretically zero on the X axis like a correct turing tool at the finish. They are always way negative on the OD or way positive on the ID from zero when threading only. I use .86603 x pitch for my thread height. I can get good threads but just can't trust to go to size or close off the tool eye. Also do you have any videos of how to chase threads for repairing if loaded back in the machine. Ours has that capability but nothing in the book to truly describe how to do it. Thanks for your videos. Older machine but the concept is the same.
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 4 года назад
Our Integrex has the feature to pick up a thread but I have never tried it out yet. Old machines like my 10N doesn't have that ability.
@brianmatias471
@brianmatias471 4 года назад
Jim Monk Does your machine come equipped with the Thread Position Teach option?
@jimmonk7936
@jimmonk7936 4 года назад
@@brianmatias471 yes it does I believe. I have not tried it yet since we purchased the machine about 4 years ago. Haven't needed it yet but would like to figure that feature out.
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 4 года назад
@@brianmatias471 I don't remember if it was included as a standard option or if it was extra for the Integrex.
@mariocortes1337
@mariocortes1337 Год назад
Very good teaching 👍, congrats 👌 👏
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 Год назад
Thanks for the compliment.
@stanleyfei8045
@stanleyfei8045 2 года назад
Thank you teacher
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 2 года назад
You're welcome.
@jepkeklinge3778
@jepkeklinge3778 4 года назад
Hey man, nice video again, coule you explain the surface roughness or make a video about the diffrance?
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 4 года назад
Lower numbers are rougher feed rate and higher numbers are finer feed rate. Number 7 finish is slightly better than a 32 rms finish. It feeds a .031R insert at .0039" IPR.
@tunaakgun6035
@tunaakgun6035 8 месяцев назад
​​@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 mazatrol t32-2.I've just started using Mazak, I'm taking examples from your videos, but I'm still at the beginning and I'm a novice, thank you also for your answer.
@harrychristensen5992
@harrychristensen5992 3 года назад
Tip: At 10:35 where you can set the next line to thread i an taper, If you rewrite the same stop point again eg: FPT-X =3 FPT-Z=1.8 the machine transit in a smoother motion at the end of the thread and not doing the sudden stop motion. Works on newer machines don't know about this machine.
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 3 года назад
I will have to try that. Thanks.
@dgyldmark
@dgyldmark 2 года назад
Hi! and thanks for your mazatrol school service! How do you thread an acme screw? ex screw elevator, "threading incremental i Z" ?
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 2 года назад
ACME threads just need more threading passes but the program is the same otherwise.
@NewHartfordLocals
@NewHartfordLocals Год назад
Phil I’m picking up a quick turn t6 with mazatrol T plus control . Is this control similar to what you demonstrate ?
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 Год назад
Yes. Anything I am showing will work on the T+
@ES-fr3yz
@ES-fr3yz 7 месяцев назад
Important question,If I don't finish threads at end of shift and power the machine off,will it know where to pick up the next day?
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 7 месяцев назад
I honestly do not know. You may want to run a test part on your machine to find out for yourself.
@ozguraytekin3800
@ozguraytekin3800 Год назад
Teşekkürler.
@Andriuxa21
@Andriuxa21 4 года назад
how do you remove the burr at the beginning of the thread? Are there special solutions in Mazatrol? In TCP? Thanks for the reform option and other useful information.
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 4 года назад
You can remove the burr by rerunning the finish pass of the turning operation after the thread is cut.
@anh6790
@anh6790 3 года назад
Hi, Mr. Phil thanks a lot for your video! At the end of the video Could you please explain why are the tool offset-X 0.005 and 0.001? How do you know it, sir?
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 3 года назад
The offsets were just examples. You will need to adjust your offsets accordingly to what your part measures.
@anh6790
@anh6790 3 года назад
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 Yes, I got it, thank you so much for the helpful videos. Hope you're still doing well during this pandemic time
@kevmarriott6272
@kevmarriott6272 29 дней назад
Hi, have you any experience with tracing/ picking up existing threads for reworking? I've been led to believe that it is possible on the T series controllers??? I know it's possible on later controller, would be super handy if it can be done on T series
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 29 дней назад
@@kevmarriott6272 extreme pain in the ass to do it. Very risky operation because it's an eyeball job trying to line up the moving tool to the thread. Not recommended.
@TuanNguyen-md8cc
@TuanNguyen-md8cc Год назад
Can u show us how npt is program on mazaktrol and threading option ??. Thanks
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 Год назад
Ok. Thanks for the suggestion.
@miguelneves3982
@miguelneves3982 Месяц назад
Hi Phil, i need to make ID oil grooves in a bush, been trying using the ID threading option after 30 mm pitch it doesn't look correct on the display Can the T2 manage this? any advice would be greatly appreciated Thanks
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 Месяц назад
@@miguelneves3982 the display will look funky with an extremely coarse thread but it will work. Be sure to have PN0 0 line ID min set to the bore diameter of the hole otherwise the machine will retract X to 0 on last pass and possibly crash the grooving tool into the other side of the part.
@miguelneves3982
@miguelneves3982 Месяц назад
Thank you much appreciated
@jordansnyder2820
@jordansnyder2820 4 года назад
Would like to see some videos of a 40n t plus that’s what I have and all we cut is a36 anywhere from a 16x2.5 inch blank making casters to threading an 1.25 axel bolt😂
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 4 года назад
I do not have a T+ controller.
@jordansnyder2820
@jordansnyder2820 4 года назад
Mazatrol Tips and Tricks still have useful info though
@tunaakgun6035
@tunaakgun6035 8 месяцев назад
Hello Phil, I can write the program as you showed, it works in simulation, but when I run the machine, it gives error code 635 ACCELERATION DISTANCE EXCEED. What could be the reason? Best regards
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 8 месяцев назад
What control is on the machine? You can slow down the cutting speed to get it to work or change a threading parameter.
@tunaakgun6035
@tunaakgun6035 8 месяцев назад
​@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816mazatrol t32-2.I've just started using Mazak, I'm taking examples from your videos, but I'm still at the beginning and I'm a novice, thank you also for your answer.
@75kGa
@75kGa 4 года назад
Is the length value the total length of the raw stock (including what is clamped in the chuck)? Or is it just the visible stock protruding from the chuck jaws?
@tomaszspiszak181
@tomaszspiszak181 4 года назад
Raw material, plus I always add some more mm.
@75kGa
@75kGa 4 года назад
Tomasz Spiszak thanks. So the length is the raw stock the entire raw stock. This includes what is clamped and visible ?
@tomaszspiszak181
@tomaszspiszak181 4 года назад
@@75kGa yes.
@75kGa
@75kGa 4 года назад
Tomasz Spiszak awesome thanks. One last thing. What about the inside diameter values. If I have a raw solid stock and I am to bore a hole say 6inches as per drawing. Do I then insert this value of 6 in the ID value field?
@tomaszspiszak181
@tomaszspiszak181 4 года назад
@@75kGa put 0 in the first line for stock min dia. Check out his 1st or second video , there's a great explanation.
@rezanasirzadeh7003
@rezanasirzadeh7003 3 месяца назад
Nice❤
@neilmcdonald8011
@neilmcdonald8011 4 года назад
coming from a fanuc background why are your tool offsets all 1 instead of t0101,t0202,t0404 etc?cheers.
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 4 года назад
This machine uses offset columns like a grid. Offset column number 1 or the second offset column 2. Go to 18.34 in the video. You can see the two offset columns there.
@albertta2025
@albertta2025 4 года назад
Is it possible if you can make a video on thread clipping on mazatrol and explain it in depth?
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 4 года назад
Thread clipping? Not sure what you mean.
@albertta2025
@albertta2025 4 года назад
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 I mean taking away the first imperfect thread with a grooving tool. For example on a 8 stub acme thread and using a grooving insert that's 0.125 to remove the first imperfect thread. I've also heard it being called a higbee thread too
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 4 года назад
@@albertta2025 Got it. Never tried to Higbee a thread.
@ronaldfairhurst2914
@ronaldfairhurst2914 3 года назад
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 I think he might want to know how to run a higbee cut
@robertzacharias6567
@robertzacharias6567 3 года назад
I need to turn a 1-8 left hand thread. Never have done it, I can't find any information on it. Any help is greatly appreciated.
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 3 года назад
Same procedure as right handed thread. You just install a left handed tool in the turret and set the chuck direction to left hand. The threading program will be the same.
@robertzacharias6567
@robertzacharias6567 3 года назад
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 I'm guessing it needs a left hand insert holder?
@robertzacharias6567
@robertzacharias6567 3 года назад
A colleague said I could use a right hand and start into the part, 5 inches in this case. And thread back to the front. Will this work?
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 3 года назад
@@robertzacharias6567 Mazatrol does not play well with that method. Get a left hand tool.
@kevmarriott6272
@kevmarriott6272 29 дней назад
using Mazatrol T32-2 I cut right and left-hand threads M50x1.5 with same tool & insert, just change Z start and finish points (swap them over) you do need to allow for approach/acceleration distance for the left-hand thread
@jeanpierrelopez7248
@jeanpierrelopez7248 4 года назад
Hello friend, look at me, I get an error in the subject of threading, the alarm is acleration distance exceed! And it won't let me screw.
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 4 года назад
What controller do you have? I only have parameter information regarding the T-2 and T-3 controls. For the threading parameter, U35 controls the acceleration distance. It is set to a low value from the factory and that causes problems with threading at high RPM speed. The range of the parameter is 0-255, but I have mine set to 100 and it works fine. Other option is to slow down the threading SFM value in the program.
@mattiasarvidsson8522
@mattiasarvidsson8522 2 года назад
how old is that machine ? :D
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 2 года назад
1986. Still kicking.
@derick3482
@derick3482 3 года назад
i like that single process option pretty clever
@vinayakpatil9160
@vinayakpatil9160 3 года назад
We have to threading OD on 4 mt pipe so please suggest
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 3 года назад
Not sure what you mean.
@mohamedsalahcnc7910
@mohamedsalahcnc7910 4 года назад
Can you help me Can you send( pdf) program for mazatrol t32-2 control
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 4 года назад
Not sure what you are asking for.
@mohamedsalahcnc7910
@mohamedsalahcnc7910 4 года назад
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 I need an EXPLANATION(PDF)
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 4 года назад
@@mohamedsalahcnc7910 If you mean an operation manual, I do not have one.
@saravananj384
@saravananj384 3 года назад
How to make NPT thread in this machine plz help me any one
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 3 года назад
Male or female thread?
@saravananj384
@saravananj384 3 года назад
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 I got it sir I need one help from you sir
@saravananj384
@saravananj384 3 года назад
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 my mail I’d is j.Saravanan898@gmail.com ping me sir I want tips for making multiple serrations on outer dia
@christophercolumbus8944
@christophercolumbus8944 3 года назад
@@saravananj384 NPT is just angle right?different diameter?s
@saravananj384
@saravananj384 3 года назад
@@christophercolumbus8944 yes how to do in mazatrol
@funwithak5m
@funwithak5m 3 года назад
Not using M03 and M04 3D program
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 3 года назад
Not sure what you are asking me.
@funwithak5m
@funwithak5m 3 года назад
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 How will the direction of turning the spindle change CLOCK WISE and COUNTER CLOCK WISE
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 3 года назад
@@funwithak5m It will cut either a right hand or left hand thread depending upon the tool.
@funwithak5m
@funwithak5m 3 года назад
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 my machine is MAZATROL SMART
@funwithak5m
@funwithak5m 3 года назад
It is created in the program you have created, it does not run, it is an alarm.
@pauloyoshizaki2103
@pauloyoshizaki2103 Год назад
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@elitistseeker1258
@elitistseeker1258 Год назад
Well I just figured out why the apprentice crashed he hit reform instead redoing the whole process after comping the thread in 50 thou
@christophercolumbus8944
@christophercolumbus8944 Год назад
you guys EIA at all? i need some help with setting up tools
@derick3482
@derick3482 4 года назад
why not Zo with your main tool your OD tool and CALIBRATE the rest of the tools accordingly? from Okuma guy
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