You have reached a level of extreme efficiency (no pun intended, Germany!) delivering a massive amount of facts that are basically all interest points, doing a masterful job of cutting out anyhthing not really worth mentioning and focusing on all important stuff swiftly and effortlessly! One of the best, it not the best car reviews available today on youtube.
6:47 if I'm not mistaken, Mazda was the first car maker to do pulsating LED indicators back when they launched the CX30, when everyone else was copying Audi's cascading indicators. Mazda said they made their led indicators look like old school filament bulb indicators, hence the pulse. Now it seems BMW is copying Mazda! That's an indication (pun intended) that Mazda is doing things well in their attempt to enter the luxury car market.
Another page that BMW could take out of Mazda's book....NO GLOSS BLACK! It's a miracle! A car at half the cost, with no cheap, glossy plastic...what a time to be alive
@@tier1detailing you can have bimmers without gloss black if you want... Its just the base trim. And the Mazda its not half the price, lol... And also got its share of hard textured plastics. Not to mention the driving dynamics and mechanics of the bimmer more than makes up for the price difference. The Mazda is great value but no way near the refinement, driving comfort and efficiency of the germans. Its nvh issues and steering quirks are quite known. Its new inline6 engines are quite underpowered and not that smooth. Theres a lot of work for Mazda to even pretend to be in the same segment as the germans.
Agreed. The cx70 is the same price and higher than the cx90 in some cases. Some markets get the cx80 and cx90. In the US, since the cx50 with the wrong powertrain is built there, keep it. But import the cx90 and also cx80 would have made such more sense.
@@LafemmebearMusic By taking the overall design language and lowering it down in height to a normal car size. The current Mazda 6 is missing the sleek lines that these CX SUVs have. The current Mazda 6 front wheel arch curve on the side panel makes it look like the whole body is bent from the A-pillar.
@@LafemmebearMusicMost SUVs are built on the same platforms as the standard cars. Redesigning this as a standard saloon or estate would be relatively simple.
Data and spec Mazda CX-80 (CX-90 brother) Germany entry price 55.000 Euro (PHEV), 59.000 (Diesel) High trim review vehicle as shown: 67.000 Euro X5 PHEV comparison price: 95.000 Euro New colors Artisan Red Melting Copper Optional Matrix LED length CX-60 4,74 m / 187“ CX-80 5,00 m / 197“ (25 cm or 10“ longer than CX-60 - and that’s all basically wheelbase - but 10 cm or 4“ shorter than CX-90/CX-70) CX-90 and CX-70 5,10 m / 201“ (but same wheelbase, CX-90 is a little wider) Suspension double wishbone front, multi-link rear 6-seater captain’s seat or 7-seater 20“ 2,5 l R4 PHEV 327 hp system output, AWD, 8-spd-automatic 18 kWh gross battery (14,5 kWh net) 40 km / 25 miles realistic range 7,2 kW AC 6,8 sec 0-100 km/h VMax 195 km/h 120 mph 3,3 l R6 Diesel turbo MHEV 254 hp, AWD, 8-spd-automatic 8,4 sec 0-100 km/h VMax 219 km/h 136 mph CX-90 in US also 3,3 l turbo petrol 280 hp or 340 hp Both RWD bias 12,3“ instruments, 12,3“ infotainment, HUD (standard) Exclusive Line, Homura & Takumi both animal skin Fabric seats standard in Exclusive Line, all others optional animal skin US CX-90: Base black full leatherette 690 l - 1.970 l 2,5 t towing #MazdaCX80 #Mazda Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.
This is good synopsis / comparison of Mazda's line (which is very confusing to me ). If this CX-80 Exactly as shown (being a little smaller than the USA CX-90/70) with the USA's Straight 6 Turbo S , I'd order it Tomorrow. For comparison - aside from solely against the X5 - Acura's MDX Advance is a definite competitor. Without producing a complete Matrix of the features of each, suffice it to say, The 2024 MDX Advance (non Type S) is about $10K MORE than a CX -90 with the Turbo 6 (not the Turbo S ). The 2024 Type S MDX is $13K MORE than the CX-90 or CX-70 (whih is puzzling on Mazda's part) Premium Plus Turbo S model! The two SUV are comparable in size, HP/Torque, interior room, and other features. The MDX adds Massaging seats, Air suspension, auto dampening suspension, interior Light Show, a spectacular ELS Sound system vs the Mazda CX-90 Premium Plus Turbo S. Acura just announced their 2025 MDX Type S with some refreshing enhancements - most notable - was the elimination opf the Touch Pad and going with a Touch Screen InfoT. system screen. But the price is now circa $78K vs $62 K for the TOL CX-90 /70 Premium Plus Turbo S. BTAIM, I would NOT opt for a PHEV. But I would opt for a Gas/Electric Hybrid like the newer CRVs.
Thanks Thomas for pointing out the small rear blinker trend... It's really annoying because most modern cars have such bright brake and tail lights, therefore you can't see the blinkers very well...
The CX60 would've been a gigantic hit in the USA market! Makes no sense why they wouldn't sell it there... It would've been a legit direct competitor to the GV70, more so than any other of its competitors.
Since cx-9, personally, Mazda has produced very good car. In my opinion, mazda has perfected how a luxury suv vehicle should look like. The shape is symmetrical or proportional and it has great road presence.
@@LarryNgetich A very good afternoon/evening. Whats the difference between CX60, CX70, CX80 ? I want to know in exterior looks. Tbh I’m very confused with Mazda’s lineup 🫡
I just chipped mine with JB4. Now I have a Japanese built, 400hp inline 6 SUV on a rear drive bias architecture that does 30 mpg in the highway. If youre thinking of getting one.. just do it.
The real problem with the CX-60 was not the size, but the poor insolation, indecisive transmission, bad handling and rough ride. If they have fixed all this I will buy it, otherwise no. I am currently in the market for a new family car as my family got a +1 boost recently :)
Currently driving an XC90 for towing our caravan, however the changes to the Volvo powertrains means this may be our first and last Volvo as a diesel no longer available, the CX80 looks like it ticks many boxes and nice big diesel..what's not to like.
Ours is the 2ltr and performs very well for our needs and economy very good even when towing just dissapointing the diesel variant not available anymore. Had santa fe's before until they went over to 1.6hybrid petrols, diesel still available but only with lower spec and dct transmission..
I own a current generation BMW X5, mate. There would be few cars with better build quality. I’ve sat in a top-end CX90. It’s pretty nice, but still not as nice as my X5. My X5 has also proven to be reliable since I bought it a year ago. For reference, it’s a 2018 X5. So no issues for a nearly 6 year old vehicle is pretty good reliability I would say.
Proof for that? I don't believe it especially when it comes to build quality. Just to be clear I don't like the new BMW design language l, it's mostly disgusting (7 series before all) but BMW engineering is still top notch.
I share the same view with Thomas that the clean rear bumper looks so much better. Has more elegance than those cut with exhaust holes and especially with monstrous ones!
Here from the USA. All the world needed was the CX-60 and the CX-90. The 70 and 80 are both unnecessary. Lots of us here in the US are very disappointed to not have gotten the CX-60.
CX-60/80 difference definitely makes more sense than the North American 70/90 duo, however I'm disappointed to see the same bulb-like rear styling from the NA duo has been brought over for this CX-80. I was fearing that, since it needed to be lengthened for the third seating row but especially from diagonal angles the rear end looks really bloated compared to the CX-60.
I love Mazda's newest design language and interiors. If they reintroduced the Mazda6 as a premium (below Luxury) estate/wagon, I'd scoop it up in a heartbeat
In Australia we get the CX 60 and the larger longer wider CX 90 which makes sense. The suspension and transmission were poor in early models being new in house designs. Fixes are on the way. Deep crystal blue metallic is beautiful in the Azami SP spec with light or tan interior.
We’re also getting the CX-70 and CX-80 in Aus as well, bit of a gamble for Mazda to offer all 4 large platform models but they might be using us as a test market as they know Mazda is hugely popular here.
Mazda should definitely start informing testers that the screen IS touchscreen!! However, this must be unlocked in the menu. By default, this option is disabled. I have already seen this error in one of the videos on YT.
I love Mazda and we own a CX-9. But I never considered a CX-70 or 90 here in the States before buying my 2024 X5. It’s a nice car, but it ain’t no X5 (nor is it half the CX-5’s price when equipped with the higher output engine).
The X5 can’t match the Mazda CX 60, 70, 80 or 90 in design and in quality. And just one detail, it is not the price that determines whether a car is premium. But the quality and the materials. The fact that people are stupid enough to overcharge a German car is people's own problem.
@@sternskov2629 yeah, that’s just arbitrary, vague nonsense. The notion that “premium”, however you define such vague term,is not correlated with cost and price is just silly. Side note. I didn’t equate price with “premium”. I simply pointed out that suggesting this Mazda is half the price of the X5 is not accurate.
I think this model should be called cx70, and mazda should sell cx90 for non-American market because the rear seat of cx70 is too small. If they want to round up the line up then the cx80 should be the 5 seater version of the cx90, the current naming is too confusing for ordinary people.
that's will make more sense BUT only if you aware of both markets ) if you are in Europe you have a choice between CX60 and CX80 and that's it. And in States it's only 90 and 70
@@vadym8713 But in Australia, you can choose from CX 3 all the way to CX90, include CX3,CX30,CX5,CX60,CX 70,CX8,CX80, CX9, CX90...it is such a chaos XD
@@davidliang7855 That's true, Australia probably would be one of very few markets, if not only, to offer all the four double-digit new Mazda SUVs. Aussie is really a special market.
I test drove a CX60 with the 3 litre inline 6 diesel. It was stunning. There's small details I would change where the Germans focus but it is ALOT cheaper than the German alternatives.
Thanks for this preview which I looked at with great interest having bought a CX60 PHEV last year. This car is simply too big for what I want and I already find the CX60 much heavier than I am used to. The UI/UX and buttons are completely familiar and it is a real plus for Mazda that you can now get into all their EV or PHEV ranges and know immediately how they work without retraining. I find the build and features which come as standard rather than extensive expensive options more than premium enough. So for German and other premium brands you have to decide whether the more elaborate suspension and maybe all wheel steering plus the badge are really worth double the price. From the figures mentioned the PHEV setup in this larger CX80 may be a bit under powered compared with the CX60.
Hear me out - its expensive. As a current Mazda owner I HATE that they are focusing on "premium" series (cx50,60,80) and distancing from cars like CX5, which is such an awesome car, loved by everyone and I would've much more prefer that same quality level 7 seater (CX8) and have 10-15k lower price than this. People are not choosing between this and X5 anyway, but between Kodiaq, 5008 etc.. and this is now significantly more expensive.
stop talking trash, CX-5 still exists and will get a new gen, additioally there is the CX-50, just as affordable, them offering additional models doesn't make their other models more expensive, you made that up, you make absolutely no sense edit: also anyone can go to the websites of Skoda, Peugeot, etc. and build one with a COMPARABLE engine and equipment, you are clueless about their prices, they are very expensive too
@@Mgoblagulkablong you need to perfect your reading skill, its a very important one. DId i say cx5 doesn't exist anymore or that they are "distancing" from it by building more premium ones. Did I say those expensive Mazdas are not better? The point is that those are improvements rarely anyone asked for. Is 320bhp instead of 200bhp a deal braker for 7seater buyer in that class? Did anyone ever complained about CX5 material quality? Or anything? No.. but they need to add SOMETHING to jack the price and that is not the way I expected Mazda to go.
EXACTLY....prices for new Mazdas are INSANE. I have been driving Mazdas for about 20 years now, but in last 3-5 years they have lost their mind with pricing they are asking.
My cx 60 inline 6 diesel humura in jet black arrives in 1 week! Can't wait! I just wish they got rid of all rhe chrome in the logo and on the outside, fix the wiggly headliner, light key and fake exhausts... but tha's minor details 😅
This is confusing from Mazda. In Australia we have the CX3, CX5. CX60, CX90 which can exceed $100,000 and now the CX80. Too many models with small differences in size and all looking the same. The current CX60 and CX90 have some basic problems with hard suspension and a rough auto transmission operation which haven't really been addressed . No really comparable with BMW.
NO, Mazda DONT need to upgrade an infotainment - everybody else should look at Mazda and do the same - this is much better that current German rivals/ I just hate touchscreens
I'm a big fan of the user interface for the media/nav. One of the rare car designs that offer a well designed volume knob for the front seat passenger. Most designs have a volume knob close to the driver while the driver has redundant volume controls on the steering wheel.
Mazda has always be known of very good quality. The design of this model looks really high quality, with a sense of premium. If would need a car of this size, this car would be definitely on the buying list. The price is really attempting, also here in 🇫🇮. Thank you again for a great review. 👍
Mazda has suspension and transmission issues for all of cx-90 and cx-60. Unfortunately there are both not comfortable nor smooth. I’m assuming the same for this model most likely. Mazda used to make a nice car but they failed this time while rushing into production of unfinished product. An owner here speaking and waiting for fix
I wanted the CX-60 Takumi so bad but the price is just crazy! I went for my 2nd option the VW Tiguan Allspace R-Line. The prices are just out of control. The VW was the better price performance Rato. I can imagine wanting a CX-80 in the future because I already want one now. 😂
Thomas, love your channel but if I may suggest that you please also mention the NM of the engines. Horsepower alone doesn’t say enough. Perhaps the global audience makes this tricky but you manage around that with CM and inches as well. Thank you
I like that it has buttons inside for the controls and not a cheap tablet pretending to be a premium feature. I will avoid as much as possible cars with that tablet. It gets annoying driving at night.
great overview Thomas, love the Mazda interiors, had Stone leather in my 2018 CX-5 and deliberate non-touchscreen infotainment. Key fobs are now available in vehicle colour too. Indicators should be on the outer edge of the light clusters, had to see some of these small ones at night with bright LEDs. Not as bad as KIA Sportage, whose indicators are under boot line bumper, where you cant see them in traffic.
In terms of cabin and features Mazda might be good choice, However in terms of drive train and driving dynamic the difference is day and night between these two.
6:50 I noticed the newer BMWs seem to have copied Mazdas pulsing indicators. Mazda has been using them for a number of years. I think the pulsing indicators look quite premium.
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Great review as usual. It's always great to watch your reviews and get your perspective from Germany, here in the USA. Overall, I find the design of the CX-70/90 and CX-60/80 sides a little flat and bland. I'd rather see some character, sculpturing or sweep to them, like the CX-5. Also I'd like less roundness to the rear roof line and have it a little more vertical. Thanks again for the reviews.
CX80 will sell well in Australia...CX8 already does, CX90 a tad too large for us...should be a CX70 in North America, sorry you missed out. The lines on the current CX8 are beautiful
If you want an X5 and can't afford it, get X5 model 2021 certified used car with dealer warranty. The Japanese is reliable but not as heart touching as the German. ( and not bankrupting you as the German would).
It has a slightly different design compared to the CX-90, and I think it is better. Especially on the top half of the rear portion, it doesn’t buldge out too much! Nice!
I despise the cover for the center console and can't stand mazada made the side doors inconvenient by taking away the tiny compartment near the window buttons to store little things in. People like to take crap out of their pockets when driving and not throw EVERYTHING in the center console area.
Hi Thomas! Great review as always. Have you considered having a portable hardness test? So you can test dashboard, centre console. Maybe add a slightly extra bit of info.
I have to say that the Mazda vision of interior design and haptic button control interface is what I really love! Sadly all the German manufacturers don`t think so. It`s hard to get a new company car without glossy plastics and the capacitive BS!
The car does not look bad, but as in 99% of cars, the third row of seats is absolutely useless. Good for small children and that's about it. Wasted money and space. You get a Vito if you want seats, not an SUV. .
I really like the Utility of a big car, even though mostly I dont use the facility, we use bikes and busses which are good here, but when we do need the car its to shift stuff and people, often to go 500 km +, Nothing else will do the job. an X5 is too much €£$ in a nice spec (and I have never been a fan of BM or Merc interiors), so the big Skoda or this would be perfect.
Not sure how many times you would have 3 6 feet plus people all in line ? I'm currently in USA renting a grand Cherokee lwb 7 seater which is huge and even that won't take 3 6 feet plus in line.
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The light color cloth on the door and dash will be dirty in a week... Wonder if Mazda will replace the CX-5 in Europe as it cannot be accessed every market. I love the CX50...
You missed the booth width :( I always watch your videos because of real both size test. Its very important because amount of liters is not very useful information these days as manufacturers measure this very differently.
