@@chickenfarm09 yes, calling is the best way to get ahold of Stan and he is an awesome guy to talk to. I know he is really really busy this time of year so best thing is to give him a call. Tell him Aaron sent ya 💪🍊
I have quite a few of Stan's trees growing up here in Alaska, and I couldn't be happier with what he sent me. The guy is a legend. Thank you for posting this.
i got shot in the head in 1997 i had nothing but time found citrus forums and met stan who helped me learn how to grow citrus ... HES AMAZING someday i'll get to meet the man who gave me something to look forward too
@@OceanSpritePixieBobs Stan is awesome, I hope you can meet him too. If your able to make it to the citrus expo this November, supposed to be in Charleston s.c.
I recently bought some citrus trees from Stan. It was great talking to him over the phone. Hes quite the expert regarding the growing of citrus in colder climates than Florida. What a pleasure it is seeing him do his thing in this grove/ greenhouse tour. Thanks Stan and thanks Tough Citrus for this cool video!
Hi my dear friend thanks so much for another great video and some great inspiration. You’ve done a great job, growing some great things in your beautiful orchard.
Stan the man! I can’t wait until he gets some citremons grafted up and ready to sell. I have a lot of different trees from him, and all of them are doing great. The biggest problem is finding room to plant everything that I want😂.
Lol, i have the same problem too 🤣 I can’t wait, I’m looking forward to get one of his sacaton grafted. I want one ready to fruit in a year or so and try breading with it. I have a bunch of seedlings sacaton I have got over the years but hoping grafted will give. Me flowers sooner
Have you ever heard of a trifoliate Grapefruit from china? A lady stated she collected the seed decades ago while studying as a exchange student in china. It's supposed to be less bitter than a Dunstan? (I'm growing 'em from seed ... we shall see?)
Nice, I need to make it out there to check that place out. I know a fellow in Maybington, SC who has a 15ft. lemon tree, had it for years. I live near Maybington & I've seen 4°F
@@toughcitrus just got a pack of seeds from you as well looking forward to growing some rootstock Already have a few seedlings from a local growing ur seeds 😃
This is fantastic. Thank you for filming and posting this. And to the grower for his awesome collection. I’m in Utah looking for some citrus I can grow without much protection.
@@toughcitrus I’m officially in USDA zone 7a, but I think it’s dipped below 0 in the past. I have a Trifoliate orange and this year I planted a Yuzu. Some of these hybrids look really promising!
I went to see him today bro. He is about a hour and 15 mins away. Alot of farmland around there. I got a yuzu, browns select,10 degree, suger belle and 2 pineapple guavas. So i have this bootleg green house for now that doesn't hold heat that well but plan on getting a new one this summer. If i buy those seeds on your page do i plant them right away or wait till it warms back up? If the soil needs to be warm for the seeds to grow and we get hit with cold weather out of the blue i wouldn't know if that would effect them or not. Then again if i wait till it warms back up you might have sold them all by then
If you have the heat pad and they are inside you should be fine. They usually take a month or month and a half to start getting ready to repot. But I wouldn’t recommend putting young seedlings outside until they are a good size and more established. I keep mine in pots until they are a good size, then they can go outside
I am curious if my family could grow citris in Port Angeles, Washington. Our growing zone is 8B and typically doesn't get lower than 25 F, but the lowest is 15F very rare. I am off the ocean too and grow cold, hardy tomatoes outside, peppers, and eggplant with lasagna layer methods. I would love the challenge!
Well I do know that tough citrus varieties will grow for you!! There’s a lot of people that grow citrus in British Columbia!!! You can grow any of the yuzu types, 10 degree tangerine, ichang lemon, citrumelo like dunstan and swingle, citrandarins like us852 and us942 and even Thomasville citrangequats, you can act grow kumquats too because they are hardy in the teens. Your hunch is right and I think one green world is based out of Portland and they grow citrumelo and ichang lemon outdoors year round, in Portland. Stan is a real resource of citrus info and he may have a few tree for sale that will work perfect in your area
I plan to hit him up around end of march. I'm in SC about 10 mins away from Columbia. I got a couple of Meyer lemons, a limequat and a Satsuma. I like the Satsuma alot but i want something with more of a stronger orange taste.
You would really like sugarbelle or even a citrandarin. The citrandarins are really tangy and I think us852 taste just like tang I drank as a kid. The citrus expo next year is in Charleston s.c. And that would Be a great place to try all different types and maybe even pick up a few trees for sale too
If i get a US852 can i grow it and plant the sends then use the sprouts from the fruit as a root stock? So that way i don't have to keep buying root stock to graft?
Yes, a lot of seeds I grow I use for rootstock. Us852 is a hard one to find for sale, so growing seeds out and grafting us852 branches onto them is probably the best and cheapest way to get more 852 trees
lyn citrus has a lot of rootstock seeds. I have seen US852 for sale as liners. I have some flying dragon seeds, and some RICH 16-6 seeds. I got them for a hedge, and for a Deciduous rootstock. Rich 16-6 is supposedly V cold Hardy, but everyone likes to pump up their own product. ??
@@gravitybarge citrus make a the best hedge especially trifoliate. Ain’t nothin getting through that. I like Lynn but they don’t have 852, 942, 812, 802 and those are the ones I really want the most. Have talked to them and they said those are Florida rootstock types
Awesome video, Stan is the man. He definitely helped me out and I live in Hawaii. I watched the whole video hoping to see if you guys got to try the succari orange, too bad they weren’t ripe.
He is awesome 💪🍊 I remember him showing me the succari and how he it’s the only one he didn’t like the summer before last. Glad I got to try one but it was really nice and juicy with hints of sweetness but kinda left me waiting for something else, like an after taste. Very interesting
I wouldn’t go with the Prague in zone 6. First they are really hard to get propagated and grow slow, they are also share bearers so seeds are scarce. Also for such a hard to get tree it would be a shame to see it lost to the below zero temps that happen in zone 6 regularly. I would recommend poncirus trifoliate to get started. The wild sour orange that is commonly used as rootstock. I do not think Stan has any for sale currently but I know Madison citrus nursery has 3 types that I would try one being rubidoux, one being a very tough citrandarin us942. In there root stock section. If you can get those citrus established, you can always try grafting less cold hardy types onto the branches and experiment with what types survive or not. I would recommend growing rootstock in ground, or even in pots frost until they get back and then put them in ground. Poncirus trifoliate citrus rootstock and maybe a citrandarin but that will need protection when it dips below zero for sure
Thanks for the thoughtful and helpful response. I'm actually going to try to grow some Poncirus from seeds. There is one at my university. I'm not enthused about the extreme thorns. I poked myself in the head somehow just looking around at the tree!@@toughcitrus
@@chickenfarm09 absolutely 👍 gotta watch out, those are eye poppers. But the deer and animals don’t eat my citrus probably because all the thorns. Always interesting getting up into them and harvesting through the 3 inch thorns
Honest question: For those of us who live in citrus country (ie Florida or California), what would the benefit of these trifoliate based citrus be? I can see the ornamental value in the pumpkin shaped fruit or the variegated tangelo, but in terms of fruit quality, do any of these cultivars rival the flavor of commercially grown citrus? So often when I see these videos, the folks tasting the fruit comment about how sour the fruit is.
I totally understand where you are coming from. In fact I live in Florida, and there is no point in even planting citrus here anymore unless it is resistant to greening disease. Trifoliate citrus is resistant to greening and can be grown in other places normal commercially grown citrus can not because of cold. The main reason these trifoliate hybrids were developed was not rootstock, it was to extend the citrus industry into the southern us like Carolinas l, Georgia, etc. And there’s not many people that eat lemons fresh out of hand become of there soursness but yet everyone loves them. I actually prefer the rich flavors of trifoliate citrus over tastes less navels and hamlins. I prefer sour citrus and I think if more people actually got to try them, they too would be impressed. But I have property in Nc and Florida and the only thing that makes since for me to plant in both place is trifoliate hybrids, greening in Florida and cold in North Carolina. Trifoliate citrus is tough. Tough citrus 💪🍊
Great to have read this comment with all the info you provided here. Do you sell your seeds from your citrus trees, and if yes; do they grow in sizes like 3-5 feet the tallest? Because I live in Ontario, Canada and have been looking for a few citrus that I can grow and keep in a green house during the winter. And put them outside mid to end of spring until around November they will go back into the green house. So, I wouldn't mind having 2 dwaft sets of each tree, such as the orange, lemon, grapefruit, kumquats, lime, tangerines, satsuma etc. So if you have seeds and can sell few to me or even Stan if he sells seeds also. I would like to buy some from y'all to plant this spring. Or do you guys sell any of them already planted and can ship them in a protected package by putting bubble wrap around it with the rim of the container secure with covering, so if while in shipment even if it turned upside down the plant will still stay in the planter and don't spill, while the leaves and body of the tree is protected with bubble wrap and Styrofoam around the plant in the box. Please let me know and we can talk more and maybe arrange payment etc if you are selling seeds or plants. I grew up on the Caribbean island of St. Vincent and I crave and miss eating citrus daily. Plus, i want to grow citrus here for my 2 daughters and myself to eat daily to get our daily dose of strong & natural vitamin C, and to pick, dry and make our own vitamin C 💊. I plan on making my own turmeric, garlic, lemon/orange/lime & ginger 💊 this summer. So the girls will start taking them the middle of August before they return to school in September God's will. Because I usually make the mixture of turmeric, garlic, lemon, orange, black pepper, ginger & honey. And every morning & night they will take a shot, so their immune system can build up to keep off many sickness when they return to school. But I have to be making the drink mixture weekly, so i started thinking and decided that getting all the ingredients and dry them out well, grind them up and make capsules. That way i can make 1 -2 huge jars that we will always have on hand to take daily. Plus i will be making us some greens 💊 as well with spinach, kale, matcha etc. It is time we go back doing things this way like our great great grandparents did and were always healthy. Plus our 💊 are pack with powerful healthy ingredients that is good for our body without any of the bad chemical the labs be putting in the vitamins we used to buy from the pharmacy. Plus, we are teaching our children how to be skillful and sustainable. Have a blessed day you & your family. Stay blessed and God bless you all. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾❤️❤️❤️🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾.
@@exoticbeautybrina2156 thank you for tuning in. Tough citrus does sell a few cold hardy citrus varieties of seeds but only in the USA but I think your best bet would be to get ahold of Stan and see if he is able to ship while trees up your way or not. I know he does ship across the US. Most citrus can survive in pots but kumquats and kumquat hybrids stay small and produce tons and tons of fruit. Some fruit and flower year round. Seed grown citrus can take up to 6 years before the seedling tree produces fruit, so maybe get a few trees that are already flowering for some instant gratification and citrus this year and also grow some seedlings with the kids and watch it grow and eventually give some fruit. Thanks for stopping by and good luck 💪🍊
@@toughcitrus I mostly shop with Madison Nursery for their convenient online ordering and top-notch quality plants. However, I've noticed they don't have as many cold-hardy citrus varieties as Stan does. I use to shop with Citrus Grown with JoNina Farm, my experience was disappointing after my second order. The quality of their citrus was inconsistent, often with poorly developed root systems, and plants arrived without labels. Their customer service was unresponsive and unhelpful, even after I received a $300 order of citrus in terrible condition. Despite several complaints, the replacement plants were just as bad. Over 6 years ago I had bought several citrus from my local Lowes with much better results. I'm hoping Stan can ship to Georgia. In the meantime, I appreciate Madison Nursery and would love if they could expand their selection of cold-hardy citrus. Thanks for all the good work!
@@wsmaga It doesn't matter if Stan can ship to HI, I live in Georgia with different laws. Georgia is growing in their own Citrus industry and do not allow Citrus from FL, CA, AZ and a few other states. Georgia don't want their citrus Industry to be destroyed by citrus greening and other new citrus diseases that have now taken over these states.I don't know if they allow certified buds for grafting. Which I'm sure they have to because I think Madison Nursey gets their buds/ scion from Louisiana. I was just wondering if SC where Stan is located has made it to the GA restriction list.
You can grow poncirus trifoliatta and flying dragon. They are hardy down to -10 to -15 F. They are deciduous and loose there leaves and go dormant, just like an oak. That’s how they are so cold hardy. There’s a chance some of the citrandarins may survive with some protection but I know it gets below zero by you and that’s usually the cutoff for cold hardy citrus hybrids, zero. But poncirus and flying dragon grow up In Michigan
Yes, most of the trifoliate hybrids can handle temps down close to zero degrees and single digits. If it doesn’t get colder than that, absolutely. If it does you might have to cover them and protect them on the few really Cold nights
That would be in a 7B/8A zone. So a Prague Chimera, swingle citrumelo, 852 citrandarin, and Thomasville citrangequat could probably survive there with minimal to no protection. With a water barrel and a frost cloth you could do satsumas, kumquats, and a 10 degree tangerine.
@@ross2398 I agree with Ross, any of the trifoliate hybrids especially the citrandarins being hardy to 0 F. Like he says some protection on the really cold Nights once they get established should be really good. I know Stan was calling the sacaton citrumelo the Tennessee grapefruit before they found out exactly what type it was. You need the trifoliate parent so it can go semi dormant in the winter. Turn yellowish and loose leaves before the frost looses them
@@toughcitrus where I live this is probably the first or second time in the last 10 year we have saw timps below 20 normally it will got around 21 22 then go back up in the 40s during the day. But it was -1 this morning
@@Billy.t.94 and the record temps is what everyone should be looking at, not the average temps. Because you could have 20 trees growing good for almost 10 years and then one night it’s get really cold and you loose them all. Zero degrees is the cutoff for a lot of the hybrids like citrandarin and citrumelo, so if you plant them under large tree canopy for protection you should be good
