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@coreyw427
@coreyw427 5 лет назад
I will keep this in mind when next deciding between a Senna and a GT3
@srinitaaigaura
@srinitaaigaura 5 лет назад
But how does the GT3 compare to the Senna GTR?
@VerisimilitudeDude
@VerisimilitudeDude 5 лет назад
Yeah in your Forza game 😁. Me too though.
@rickydelaat6669
@rickydelaat6669 4 года назад
Hahaha
@AJ1990.
@AJ1990. 4 года назад
He said a GT3 car. Which is interesting. I would've thought they would cost millions
@acjswan
@acjswan 4 года назад
Nah, just get both. Treat ya sen!
@JavierCR25
@JavierCR25 5 лет назад
Come on BBC, just ditch the whole Top Gear crap and make this “The Chris Harris Show”.
@mattm5361
@mattm5361 5 лет назад
Just ditch the lot.
@fxdrapeau
@fxdrapeau 5 лет назад
That’s one way of killing off the show entirely... he’s just too clinical.. there’s no emotion to his test drives.. he tests them until he finds a flaw or always compares it to something better.. nothing is ever good enough as is for him unless it’s a full blown race car
@JavierCR25
@JavierCR25 5 лет назад
fxdrapeau Chris Harris is by far the best auto journalist out there.
@noobslayer815
@noobslayer815 5 лет назад
fxdrapeau honestly I feel the same about Jeremy Clarkson now that you put it that way...
@JavierCR25
@JavierCR25 5 лет назад
fxdrapeau I guess we all have preferences, but it’s they’re job to criticize cars so I guess they do have to be like that.
@nothke
@nothke 5 лет назад
I love how Chris has just gradually but masterfully taken over. This is basically Chris Harris on Cars but sponsored by Top Gear
@treatb09
@treatb09 3 года назад
hes quite good at it. been watching his videos since he starting making them on youtube. i've enjoy most every single one. he isn't jeremy clarkson n the other two weirdos. but those guys were a trio of comedy that is rare.
@carlosoruna7174
@carlosoruna7174 2 года назад
A talking stig. Sena vs a gt3 rs. Gimme the gt3rs.
@davegavin7914
@davegavin7914 2 года назад
Top gear is now Chris Harris without him it isn’t even (Top) 🇬🇧✌️👍🏻
@AK-xj8lg
@AK-xj8lg Год назад
@@treatb09 No one can be Jeremy Clarkson. Those were the golden days of Top Gear
@woman.driven
@woman.driven 5 лет назад
You can definitely notice the understeer in the Senna while driving it. You are one hell of a driver and the fact that you can speak about it as you're doing it. Great video!
@vivanoche6947
@vivanoche6947 3 года назад
Thanks I know I am
@treatb09
@treatb09 2 года назад
You will notice the front end bobbing up and down in the senna. Which means he isnt compressing the lateral g enough to keep the car committed. Hes an older driver now. His era knows that such bobbing can set the car off in the opposite direction with one wrong flick or correction. He fears the car more than the gt3. As he mentions. The nose comes up with acceleration. Which is an old racing technique called throttle steering. It takes great skill to master throttle steering. Which im surprised he is afraid of here since her drifts so much. But the nose coming up allows the driver to attack the turn and throw it into the turn. You dont see harris attacking the turn in such a methodology. You brake late till the car catches, but you have to balance the throttle to keep the nose up, requiring left foot braking, and when the apex is met you can pivot the rear and nose to sort of cut the apex short mid lateral complex. This uses the hp more efficiently rather than average mph of an apex. Hes trying to compare the two cars with similar techniques. Which doesnt offer comparable lap times. Instead offer comparable techniques for each car. The senna needs a specific driving style to get the most out of it. But from what i saw, would only take off about 4 seconds. Each turn he misses the bobbing of the nose is about .25 of a second in a lap time. The car needs to be set in and then accelerated through properly. Doing so can gain .5 seconds to even 2 seconds if the car has alot of horsepower. So the less time you spend turning the better
@vxyz5219
@vxyz5219 Год назад
@@treatb09 Well explained
@B__L
@B__L Год назад
@@treatb09 You've managed to talk an awful lot of bollocks in one comment
@JonnyCooper
@JonnyCooper Год назад
@@treatb09 Chris has god-like car control, and thrives on oversteer. If the Senna was loose, he'd be happy with it. But it's the opposite. It's built for frumpy middle-aged multi-millionaires so it's designed to gently push at the limit instead of spearing the billies into the bales. It's front-limited, and racing drivers hate that. I know I do, and I've raced and won in many a GT, sports car and open-wheeler. I'm curious. What have you raced?
@XSpector88
@XSpector88 5 лет назад
The G-forces being represented by the loose harness in the passenger seat is fantastic..
@bengrizzlyadams6187
@bengrizzlyadams6187 5 лет назад
And the bits of brain on the side windows...
@zenzelenzula7696
@zenzelenzula7696 2 года назад
Yeah I kept noticing that and thinking is that the G meter?
@Zzutubez
@Zzutubez 5 лет назад
Me watching the GT3 lap "well this is unfair, look how hard he's driving it, there's no way he's gonna go this hard in a £1mil Senna". Then the Senna lap starts... "Well, I guess he is going to go that hard with the Senna too" haha, gotta love Chris.
@fcodijk
@fcodijk 5 лет назад
C CX what do u think the 650 GT3 costs then?
@Zzutubez
@Zzutubez 5 лет назад
@@fcodijk £330,000 to be precise. So, you were saying?
@Adam-M1
@Adam-M1 5 лет назад
fcodijk you were saying?
@diyguy928
@diyguy928 5 лет назад
@@fcodijk you were saying ?
@apostolou.2577
@apostolou.2577 5 лет назад
That's what this car is really made for.
@spdcrzy
@spdcrzy 5 лет назад
"Apologies for the basic footage" still miles better than any other reviewer out there lmao.
@BobHatesYoutube
@BobHatesYoutube 5 лет назад
Easy to accomplish when you have a crew of thirty plus people to set up those shots...
@spdcrzy
@spdcrzy 5 лет назад
@@BobHatesRU-vid It's never been anybody except Chris and Neil for over a decade now. They've been attached at the hip. I honestly don't think Chris would let anybody else hold the camera for him.
@BobHatesYoutube
@BobHatesYoutube 5 лет назад
@@spdcrzy then why call it "top gear"?
@spdcrzy
@spdcrzy 5 лет назад
@@BobHatesRU-vid do you not understand how branding works? It's not Chris Harris on Top Gear. It's Top Gear's headline, but it's Chris Harris Drives. It's Chris Harris on Cars, but under the TG umbrella. Same show, different moneypot.
@Bonnejamon
@Bonnejamon 3 года назад
Not as good as the gt
@bobster2149
@bobster2149 5 лет назад
You should've put the Senna on slicks for a fair comparison. I'm sure if people are going to use their Senna on track they'll put some slicks on them anyway.
@RideYourBikeEveryday
@RideYourBikeEveryday 5 лет назад
Then it wouldn't be a Senna "Out of the box".
@VI-pp4jo
@VI-pp4jo 5 лет назад
​@@RideYourBikeEveryday Yes it would. Comparing tires is just rubbish.
@rasonline
@rasonline 5 лет назад
The simple claim was that it's as quick as a GT3 car. Keep the comparison simple and drive them as they come. No point changing tires etc and complicating the whole thing then discussing ifs and buts.. simple claim, simple test.. doesn't stack up. Move on.
@TheQuestionTheAnswer
@TheQuestionTheAnswer 5 лет назад
Definitely agree there. The gulf between slick tyres and street tyres is so great that it's almost crazy to compare two cars if they don't use the same type. To say the Senna on street rubber is as quick as a GT3 car on slicks.....that's just dumb.
@flipnotrab
@flipnotrab 4 года назад
Lol! The tires it COMES with are race worthy. Ya think it just got to end of production and they just said “grab those rims over in the corner!” 🙄
@joshweis3782
@joshweis3782 5 лет назад
Never afraid to say the truth, love it!
@willywillywillywillywilly
@willywillywillywillywilly 5 лет назад
Nicholas Fouch and how do you know what’s really on their mind? That can only be negative?
@doublestrokeroll
@doublestrokeroll 5 лет назад
Give me a break. The whole thing is just a giant add for McLaren. All this is going to do is get rich idiots to want to go out and buy their GT3 cars. Exactly what they want. The Senna is "sold out" anyway. All those people who couldn't get one but had the money now have Chris Harris shilling their GT3 cars. If you think this is "unbiased journalism", you're pretty naive.
@jamesshives5679
@jamesshives5679 5 лет назад
doublestrokeroll I think if it was any other gt3 car the outcome and the video would have been much the same
@willywillywillywillywilly
@willywillywillywillywilly 5 лет назад
doublestrokeroll ugh
@doublestrokeroll
@doublestrokeroll 5 лет назад
@@willywillywillywillywilly yeah...that's the reply of someone who doesn't have a counter argument but is an emotional baby so has to respond with something to maintain their conformation bias. "ugh" indeed.
@RS8715
@RS8715 5 лет назад
The GT car had stickers and the Senna didn't. Too much difference in HP.
@markmark5269
@markmark5269 5 лет назад
I don't know what that means. The GT3 has 550hp, the Senna has 800hp.
@Manveer_Dhindsa
@Manveer_Dhindsa 5 лет назад
@@markmark5269 stickers means +500hp
@dannysmieszny6549
@dannysmieszny6549 5 лет назад
@@markmark5269 woooosh
@borntojoke97
@borntojoke97 5 лет назад
@@markmark5269 currently going to the funeral of your sens of humour
@markmark5269
@markmark5269 5 лет назад
Oh well, I still don't get it, but what the hell, I'm rich, i don't work, and I drive a supercar, I win anyway.
@yaboyrob90
@yaboyrob90 5 лет назад
Am I the only one thinking how nice it would have been to throw on a set of slicks just to truly see what the senna could do?
@stud000000079
@stud000000079 Год назад
The Senna already comes with semi-slicks. Full slicks wouldn't have made a lot of difference. Senna also has a softer suspension (not a full race suspension) compared to GT3 and the GT3 car has fully adjustable steering and suspension system along with wider tyres.
@jacksmith4460
@jacksmith4460 Год назад
@@stud000000079 On a road going compound though that is likely far harder than your average gt3 slick, I think it would do more than you think
@09juliancarr
@09juliancarr 11 дней назад
The slicks are probably bolt on 4 seconds a lap
@neiltodankar8034
@neiltodankar8034 5 лет назад
"I think it looks like a dog's dinner!" Classic Chris 🤣
@vcader
@vcader 5 лет назад
Neil Todankar no need to confirm - he means after it has been eaten ...🐕 💩
@micrograham
@micrograham 5 лет назад
I think he's wrong, the Senna is one of the most beautiful vehicles I've ever seen
@emersoncaicedo3146
@emersoncaicedo3146 5 лет назад
@@micrograham its his opinion, you dont have to agree with what he says...
@CES-dh4ut
@CES-dh4ut 4 года назад
@MRTracing Geez, in his opinion he's wrong. What's wrong with that?
@Maurice_Moss
@Maurice_Moss 4 года назад
@@micrograham stevie wonder, is that you??!
@unkn0wn965
@unkn0wn965 5 лет назад
The placement of that gt3 seatbeltholder has been distracting me all the way trough his fast lap...
@kartikbajaj5497
@kartikbajaj5497 5 лет назад
That wasn't a seat belt holder it was side belt holder to save you from side impact😂
@ardijanuar2036
@ardijanuar2036 5 лет назад
It's for safety net like in the side window, if it was used, obviously we can't see harris there lol
@stamatisiliadis8844
@stamatisiliadis8844 5 лет назад
man do we saw this video together or what? xD YE they forgot to stick that damn thing
@elliottjohnson2071
@elliottjohnson2071 5 лет назад
For the other seat net side. We unplugged the bet so you can see Harris.
@cpnoshow8264
@cpnoshow8264 5 лет назад
That’s the G meter
@xjet
@xjet 5 лет назад
_"I'll tell you what, I know what I'd rather drive"_ Damn! Fiat Uno wins again! :-)
@WeNeedASaga
@WeNeedASaga 5 лет назад
or Citroen 2CV? ;)
@MrLifeissomething
@MrLifeissomething 5 лет назад
@@WeNeedASaga I didn't realize he was racing GT3 this year and when he said "This isn't my car. This is the sister car" I totally expected him to say "My Citroen is out for carburetor issues."
@ASJC27
@ASJC27 5 лет назад
@xjet Funny seeing you here Bruce. Didn't know you were into cars.
@xjet
@xjet 5 лет назад
@@ASJC27 Isn't *everyone* into cars? :-) And I am omnipresent on RU-vid :-)
@AkhilGavankar
@AkhilGavankar 4 года назад
Good news! It's the Dacia Sandero!
@rickc2102
@rickc2102 5 лет назад
GT3 car and ten track days a year sounds like a far more rewarding use of one's funds, indeed.
@FULLMETALAUTO
@FULLMETALAUTO 5 лет назад
and people are less likely to think that you are a banker and are a real racer car driver lol
@arkadyvestel5639
@arkadyvestel5639 5 лет назад
Love the truthfulness of the review especially given that his GT3 car is a McLaren. Keep Up the Quality Content!
@BIGGER-B
@BIGGER-B 5 лет назад
If the Senna was faster this video would of been posted last year lol.
@sarraquanny6613
@sarraquanny6613 5 лет назад
LOL!
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420 5 лет назад
*have
@RogerSmith-sm9en
@RogerSmith-sm9en 5 лет назад
Hahahaha 😂
@Antpaok
@Antpaok 5 лет назад
Would’ve*
@ajbrewer1777
@ajbrewer1777 5 лет назад
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420 both of you
@bentiem
@bentiem 5 лет назад
Harris is such a good commentator regardless of whats going on, would watch him comment a vid of two birds fighting over bread crumbs.
@keiranp0dbenn559
@keiranp0dbenn559 5 лет назад
What's your choice, Great Tits or a couple of old Ducks............! ? ?
@denisofob
@denisofob 5 лет назад
The fact that Chris can commentate while full throttle in a 650S GT3 is incredible. Legend.
@eddie1683
@eddie1683 4 года назад
Ehh he's not amazing he's hardly won races
@pineappleracing6547
@pineappleracing6547 4 года назад
@@eddie1683 You don't need to win a race to be an amazing driver. You realise that even the worst footballer in Premier League is better than an average person, the worst driver in Formula 1 is probably in top 50 of drivers etc. Just being able to participate in an event like this means you are better than 99% of the population.
@pineappleracing6547
@pineappleracing6547 4 года назад
@@stevec6232 He said the car was understeering. It looked like the car didn't wan to do what he said, like a spoiled 5 years old kid.
@atticusbastow839
@atticusbastow839 5 лет назад
Chris Harris is the best motoring journalist on the planet atm. Another fantastic video by Chris, Neil, and Chris
@montaguemathew1775
@montaguemathew1775 5 лет назад
Atticus J.B. He is shit
@eddie1683
@eddie1683 4 года назад
@@montaguemathew1775 yeah he's not a good race car driver if you think about it he hardly wins anything
@harisjamil8418
@harisjamil8418 3 года назад
*Old top gear crew says hi*
@MrPrajitura
@MrPrajitura 3 года назад
@@harisjamil8418 get over it already, it’s been a long time already
@MrPrajitura
@MrPrajitura 3 года назад
@@aaronwestley3239 dude, they’re actually terrible. If you look back at their shows, it’s so much forced comedy that it didn’t age that well, to the point of being cringe. Plus, their reviews were 95% supercars (apart from May which was the sensible one), and let’s be honest, most of TG audience will never afford/drive/even see the cars featured on the power board. I know nostalgia is a powerful thing, but Chris Harris is leaps and bounds ahead of them, is an actual race driver and is so much more likeable, even when he’s acting like a prick for show purposes.
@supermanblackedition
@supermanblackedition 5 лет назад
“Just a different gravy” lol
@jGRite
@jGRite 5 лет назад
7:19
@AdryanFick
@AdryanFick 5 лет назад
Just got home from work, what a gift to start off my weekend.
@danreed3341
@danreed3341 5 лет назад
really unique insight...have not seen this depth and creativity of comparison from any other auto commentator
@gljnjo
@gljnjo 5 лет назад
imagine being a cool guy in your Lambo coming to track day and then there is Chris Harris driving a SENNA and GT3 car like its nothing great vid guys
@eddie1683
@eddie1683 4 года назад
Lol but hes not really one of the best
@anyexpat
@anyexpat 4 года назад
and he is being paid to do it too
@raimee81
@raimee81 4 года назад
i'm still at the part of imagining myself being a cool guy with a Lambo. Can't get any further.
@MrPrajitura
@MrPrajitura 3 года назад
Hahah, was thinking the same. Imagine some douchebag “oOh i gOt a pOrScHe i’M tHe beEs kNeeS” and then he gets smoked by the GT3 like he s nothing 😂
@adodoes8770
@adodoes8770 5 лет назад
Am i the only one that finds the senna beautiful. You can just see how much the engineers went off on the car and that is exactly what makes it look so good
@Robwilli
@Robwilli 5 лет назад
I do respect you preference because we all have different tastes. I'm sure you're not alone either, some people do like the Senna. In my opinion the Senna is one of the ugliest cars ever. I've also seen other cars that are track focused and their aerodynamics are just as good as the Senna and better looking cars too. I think they overdid the Senna with aerodynamics. But then again that's my opinion and obviously not yours, you like the Senna and that's is good man.
@adodoes8770
@adodoes8770 5 лет назад
@@Robwilli i mean i find it beautiful but obviously there are far better looking cars out there, basically any other McLaren and many other supercars, sports cars even sedans. But i could never call it ugly. The mid engine layout, exhaust from the hood, big functional wing, wide body, relatively sleek appearance. It's not bad Although i do agree on the overstyled part
@PwnageJ
@PwnageJ 5 лет назад
for the price of a senna, buy a gt3 mclaren for the track and 720s for the road.
@Ravenx217
@Ravenx217 5 лет назад
Senna would hold much more resale value tho.. but getting your hands on one isn't a walk in the park either.
@Robwilli
@Robwilli 5 лет назад
I totally agree with you. The Senna is one ugly car 🤮. Is not a bad car, just terrible ugly.
@AustinG29152
@AustinG29152 5 лет назад
harlyx64 It isn’t about resale value. It’s about track performance. The McLaren F1 has the best resale value out of all of them anyways.
@aspenceley69
@aspenceley69 5 лет назад
@@AustinG29152 the mclaren f1 has a lot of hidden costs just to keep though
@aspenceley69
@aspenceley69 5 лет назад
Gt3 racing soon adds up and parts aren't cheap. They aren't built to last long either, neither are tires
@forcefreedc
@forcefreedc 5 лет назад
i really like the uncut fast laps. that's awesome and relaxing to watch
@johnhoneyball2338
@johnhoneyball2338 5 лет назад
Great video Chris, I find your style of commentary far better and enjoyable than any other car presenter. Love your work
@Mamo878
@Mamo878 5 лет назад
He's slower in the Senna because he wasn't wearing gloves. _Obviously._
@RS8715
@RS8715 5 лет назад
Also, the GT car had stickers.
@blazed6644
@blazed6644 5 лет назад
@@RS8715 +40bhp instantly
@TheShubhamskt
@TheShubhamskt 5 лет назад
@@blazed6644 At least 50hp per sticker
@geethsan1567
@geethsan1567 5 лет назад
@Ed Gein What do you mean? He doesn't sweat any oils.
@6735B1
@6735B1 5 лет назад
Is gloves needed for grip on the steering wheel?
@timgermanyjr
@timgermanyjr 5 лет назад
Josh Cartu once said his 458 Challenge car was 10 seconds faster around Spa (if i remember correctly) than his LaFerrari. No matter how you slice it, road cars will never beat race cars. The compromises needed to make a car road legal and comfortable enough to drive it in traffic are too limiting.
@thebluecarbon1410
@thebluecarbon1410 Год назад
Probably the only intelligent thing I've heard that guy saying. Is he still hiding in Russia after his scums broke out? I mean, you could have told miles away that guy was fishy
@HG504X
@HG504X 5 лет назад
Love how honest he is, if there's something to note he won't be afraid to point It out. Rather than showering it with 100% praise.
@hartosiahaan1868
@hartosiahaan1868 5 лет назад
Such ability: focus on the track and commenting at the same time
@wethenorth4378
@wethenorth4378 5 лет назад
Nobody does car content like Chris Harris long live Chris
@minimead368
@minimead368 5 лет назад
The fact that he got within 7 seconds of the 650s gt3 car, on road tyres don’t forget! is pretty impressive in my book. It makes me think what time it would of posted on slicks 🤔
@readymotorsports
@readymotorsports 5 лет назад
Chris is by far the best automotive journalist out there. A real driver's driver, and always honest in his reviews.
@zenzelenzula7696
@zenzelenzula7696 2 года назад
Isn't he just? I'm constantly disappointed by the pretty(&not so pretty) boys, and one or two girls with their car review videos, and though they manage to get their hands on some incredible cars, they're wasted on them because it's pretty clear that they know very little about cars, and worst of all, they don't even know how to drive, so they never drive the cars as intended, as Chris does
@Terrarix
@Terrarix 4 года назад
I absolutely love the sound of that straight cut gearbox in the GT3 car 😍
@stefanfreestylez
@stefanfreestylez 5 лет назад
He deserves top dollar for saving your asses from complete failure. Very lucky chris is so likeable.
@BobHatesYoutube
@BobHatesYoutube 5 лет назад
What has he saved them from? The show is a pale reflection of what it once was.
@stefanfreestylez
@stefanfreestylez 5 лет назад
@@BobHatesRU-vid what i mean is with chris atleast guys like us click on the videos. The other guys purely talk out of their asses. They treat the show as if its purely a business. Zero real emotion to it. Even chris is guilty sometimes of weird contradictions and classic journalist filler bs but atleast his reviews are 95% proper. Probably one of the most honest in the industry and he truely deserves praise for saving this mess of a show.
@scotty193
@scotty193 5 лет назад
Why save our asses?. There will not be a huge long line of people commenting here to buy a Senna or a GT3 car.
@CES-dh4ut
@CES-dh4ut 4 года назад
@@scotty193 He's talking about the show!
@PureDriveTV
@PureDriveTV 5 лет назад
Perfect video..once again!👌 And you could just see and feel the understeer in the Senna during the timed lap. I guess it’s set up “safe” for the non-racecar drivers.
@lop8828
@lop8828 5 лет назад
Senna looked more angry and stubborn. Just like a big brother
@crowjr2
@crowjr2 5 лет назад
The Senna sounds like a 4-cyl tuned Honda ...which doesn't sound necessarily BAD, but not what I'd expect for the price.
@followthegrow108
@followthegrow108 5 лет назад
You gotta hear the engine in real life. I have heard the 4L tt at full tilt and it sounds pretty mean. Not an lfa or 812 but still sounds alot better than a 4cl honda. Unless were talking 350hp na k24 builds revving 10k rpms.
@wonkybomb1865
@wonkybomb1865 5 лет назад
@@followthegrow108 Yeah hearing a fully built K with ITB's was life changing. Amazing sound from a 4 cylinder and it's kinda mindblowing the difference in sound just adding ITB's can make.
@danialhughes830
@danialhughes830 3 года назад
Awesome video - would have loved seeing the times with slicks on the senna as well.
@Kenny-df3sx
@Kenny-df3sx 5 лет назад
Don't you love the sound of the gt3 engine while accelerating...
@jameswhitehead6758
@jameswhitehead6758 5 лет назад
You're mostly hearing the straight cut gears.
@dln.sweeney
@dln.sweeney 5 лет назад
Transmission*. In terms of the onboard footage at least.
@jameswhitehead6758
@jameswhitehead6758 5 лет назад
@@dln.sweeney (the gears are straight cut and are contained in the transmission)
@dln.sweeney
@dln.sweeney 5 лет назад
@@jameswhitehead6758 Never said they weren't. I was replying to the OP and didn't see your comment.
@hahaLOLhaha72
@hahaLOLhaha72 5 лет назад
HyperLeafBlower True it's actually the gears themselves (inside of the transmission) that make that sound. They are straight cut instead of helical like road cars.
@w4lsh
@w4lsh 5 лет назад
Slick tyres make a HUGE difference, to make this comparison worthwhile they needed to be shod with similar rubber...
@kevinskipp2762
@kevinskipp2762 5 лет назад
I thought the same. If McLaren are saying it's as fast as a GT3 they're obviously referring to a race track and therefore slick tyres. I'm sure the ultimate conclusion would still be that it's slower but perhaps not as blatantly
@AustinG29152
@AustinG29152 5 лет назад
It would make a difference, but not 7 seconds. Plus it’s breaking point is still much earlier than where the GT3 would be. Makes sense, the GT3 is a purpose built race car.
@twincammikev
@twincammikev 5 лет назад
Yes... exactly...
@VerticalStrafes
@VerticalStrafes 5 лет назад
Austin Green Oliver webb has a video of him doing a 106.38 in a senna on the same exact track and course, about 3 seconds faster than Chris
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 5 лет назад
If both had the same rubber it wouldnt be a GT3 car vs a Senna comparison...
@TheKingkingg
@TheKingkingg 5 лет назад
Very good show again Mr Harris! But I would love to see you drive 2019 Acura/Honda NSX GT3
@badgn2002
@badgn2002 5 лет назад
Audio is fantastic. Love the rumble strip sound. Feels like I'm in there.
@jonathanchen4109
@jonathanchen4109 5 лет назад
feel the same
@CITRUS--
@CITRUS-- 5 лет назад
wow, I love that honesty at the end, basically.....screw the Senna for that money😂😂😂
@kabloosh699
@kabloosh699 5 лет назад
Pretty much. The Senna is better left chilling in a show room going up in value and use a real race car to have fun on the track.
@aviownzlol
@aviownzlol 5 лет назад
damn i was always asking myself this question! Nice video!
@vasme973
@vasme973 5 лет назад
And now what? U have a better life , after u know the answear?😂😂😂
@velocitymg
@velocitymg 4 года назад
Never heard him quiet while on a hot lap before...it’s awesome just to watch a master at work and listen to the car - thankyou
@AccFinEco
@AccFinEco 5 лет назад
Fantastic review! 👍 Love the talking while driving.
@sansde1ty
@sansde1ty 5 лет назад
Great to see a TG host that can Driiiiiiive.
@Sammyzuko
@Sammyzuko 5 лет назад
Haha the opening alone earned my thumbs up...it sure isn’t the most beautiful car, but I respect it
@TheMashto
@TheMashto 5 лет назад
Love the old school Chris Harris video style. It is this weird feeling of watching a 5-years-old video about a car that came out this year.
@archae108
@archae108 3 года назад
"The McLaren Senna is as ugly as it is fast" Great, you just pissed off every Senna fan and every Brazilian.
@Foxfire324
@Foxfire324 3 года назад
Do you mean Britain?😂
@pabauza
@pabauza 5 лет назад
I missed sitting down on a Friday to eat and watch a C. Harris review.
@jGRite
@jGRite 5 лет назад
This might be the best video to be uploaded on this channel this year. Nice track day.
@yonly65
@yonly65 5 лет назад
Interesting, almost identical to the lap time difference I saw when I did this test at Thermal Raceway. The Senna on stock Trofeo R's ran 2:37.8, the GT3 on Michelin mediums ran 1:29.2
@Murphy252000
@Murphy252000 5 лет назад
Chris is mint, always liked him since his own videos on here, genuine, down to earth fella!
@givemeajackson
@givemeajackson 5 лет назад
damn, driven like this the senna interior got all wobbly
@rapzeh4
@rapzeh4 5 лет назад
Might just be the vibrations going through the camera
@brd2deth939
@brd2deth939 5 лет назад
When you are endlessly scrolling and about to give up and up pops a new Chris Harris review👍🏻
@gdfggggg
@gdfggggg 5 лет назад
brd2deth true dat
@thejackamo
@thejackamo 5 лет назад
This is the kind of Chris Harris content I've been missing since he left Drive
@andrereed2898
@andrereed2898 5 лет назад
The only thing I'm missing is actual feeling in the seat. Good job Mr Chris.
@RB_CO
@RB_CO 5 лет назад
Great to see Chris driving again. I'm pretty sure with his sponsors, fans, and support he could host his own show on his own channel. No bullshit. Just Chris doing what he loves.
@gbt722
@gbt722 2 года назад
Yeah, he could call it Chris Harris On Cars. Like the channel he owned before top gear
@Tom_Selleck308
@Tom_Selleck308 5 лет назад
245 at the front is ridiculous... My '95 M3 has 245
@WeirdBrick
@WeirdBrick 5 лет назад
Yep totally brain dead logic by mclaren!! Lets use 245 so its drivable on the road but we're making our most track focused road car ever.... a corvette grand sport has more lateral grip at lower speeds than a senna which is laughable.
@xm3ntal620
@xm3ntal620 5 лет назад
I think McLaren engineers know more than all of us
@darkchild130
@darkchild130 5 лет назад
@@xm3ntal620 such a bullshit argument. If manufacturer engineers knew best an aftermarket literally wouldn't exist.
@xm3ntal620
@xm3ntal620 5 лет назад
@@darkchild130 for the most part aftermarket is terrible. If you want to make shit unreliable buy aftermarket stuff. Aftermarket exists because there aren't price ceilings that manufacturers need to meet to make a profit. Most of it is a luxury. Although, I'm sure McLaren isn't skimping on mm's of tire to pinch pennies. It's because that's what they have learned works best through testing within the confines of availability, turn-in, balance, grip, rolling resistance, treadwear etc etc.
@anyexpat
@anyexpat 4 года назад
@@darkchild130 After Market is taking a great piece of engineering and trying to blow it up saying weell sorry you fitted the massive turbo...manufacturers build shit to do 300,000 miles not to work then blow, they could make that car 1000bhp, but how long does it last ?
@rikvermar7583
@rikvermar7583 3 года назад
@10:16 - love the high-tech G-force indicator on top of the central control panel
@bueyhohang
@bueyhohang 3 года назад
Great Vid. I get stuck on how Harris it is that he does a piece to camera with his balaclava on nearly sideways. Driver first, second and forever, TV presenter as an absolute afterthought. Love it.
@emililiev4074
@emililiev4074 5 лет назад
Another great video from the brillian mr.Harris! Thank you! Can we seen GT2 RS vs Senna ?
@WeirdBrick
@WeirdBrick 5 лет назад
The gt2 doesnt compete with the senna...
@haydenmarks2895
@haydenmarks2895 5 лет назад
@@WeirdBrick and a gt3 race car does?
@VerticalStrafes
@VerticalStrafes 5 лет назад
There is already a video of it beating it on the same exact track on LoveCars channel, it was more than 2 seconds faster if I remember
@MistahGamah
@MistahGamah 5 лет назад
@@haydenmarks2895 Porsche's 911 GT2 is called that because GT2 is a marketing term, or a model name, if you will. The 911 GT2 (at least the way most people use the term) isn't actually a GT2 category race car, it's just a very very fast sports car. No, the 911 GT2 RS wouldn't compete at all with an actual GT3 racer, let alone a GT2 racer. Vs. the Senna is a fairer comparison (though as others have said, it probably doesn't win there either).
@albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797
@@MistahGamah I don't think we have gt2 racing anymore, we just got gte lm pro now
@insanity4224
@insanity4224 5 лет назад
Brutally honest! What would happen if the Senna had slicks?
@stefans4562
@stefans4562 3 года назад
What would happen if you removed the homologation parts from the gt3 car? (remove ballast and air restrictors)
@stefans4562
@stefans4562 3 года назад
But you're right, i'd love to see that.
@carolineolbrisch5165
@carolineolbrisch5165 Год назад
Brutal honesty!The way all reporting should be done ,thanks mate!
@wyattgolden6870
@wyattgolden6870 5 лет назад
I like how he speaks without saying “ugh” very good commentary.
@Georgeasaurus2001
@Georgeasaurus2001 5 лет назад
I love those brake calipers, but I suppose you gotta have them that big to continue to live lol
@Mivrox
@Mivrox 5 лет назад
they have to be that big in order not to rip off all the break pad on the first lap, but friction force doesnt depend on a contact surface area
@shiki.8254
@shiki.8254 5 лет назад
0:32 Just Posting This Time Stamp Here,Just Keep Scrollin'
@soulsurfer8797
@soulsurfer8797 4 года назад
Totally see what you are talking about as you can tell the steering input is way off a sloppy at best. Thanks for the solid input.
@simonthomas5367
@simonthomas5367 5 лет назад
Weirdly, I love the way this thing looks! Purposeful, no nonsense, seriously quick. And certainly different.
@EH88926
@EH88926 5 лет назад
Chris Harris is different gravy
@sweeptheleg.
@sweeptheleg. 5 лет назад
5:24 "It's lacking some size in that area." That statement gave me flashbacks to the first time my wife saw me without undies." 😂🤣
@jonathanchen4109
@jonathanchen4109 5 лет назад
why are you so brutally honest. lol
@sweeptheleg.
@sweeptheleg. 5 лет назад
@@jonathanchen4109 Character flaw. 😁
@revmotor
@revmotor 5 лет назад
Every Chris Harris Drives video is pure excellence.
@jakeparker8254
@jakeparker8254 4 года назад
Best car journalist out, not many of them breaking down the actual nitty gritty ins and outs of a car while pedaling it to the limit!! 🤘
@gateway_12a
@gateway_12a 5 лет назад
Feels like I'm watching & listening to a scientific review for the layman....thanks Chris
@505Goat
@505Goat 5 лет назад
No doubt the GT3 car is faster, but for the interest of the test it would be cool if they were on the same tire
@ehinton4006
@ehinton4006 4 года назад
Sure, but the Senna was pushed as being as fast as a GT3 car from the factory, so why would it have to have different tires
@jorge8596
@jorge8596 4 года назад
If they made the Senna road illegal by putting slicks they should also make the GT3 car race illegal by removing the ballast and derestricting the engine
@irnickkkknowles
@irnickkkknowles 3 года назад
Tyre
@josephtaylor7151
@josephtaylor7151 3 года назад
Tire
@mikedevaney3507
@mikedevaney3507 5 лет назад
Man Chris keeps the top quality content going
@tlgaezn319
@tlgaezn319 5 лет назад
Chris, i love your Vidz - they Relax my mind!!!
@Finne72
@Finne72 5 лет назад
It just had to be Chris Harris to highlight the Senna. A perfect match
@ChrisMisMYhandle
@ChrisMisMYhandle 5 лет назад
My type r has a 245 front tyre as standard. I'm also for making road cars nice on the road but in something as specialised as a Senna surely bit of tramlining can be tolerated.
@samjohns513
@samjohns513 5 лет назад
I have 315 fronts on my vette and it's perfectly behaved on the road
@gazman9468
@gazman9468 5 лет назад
I reckon they've deliberately tuned the car on the understeer side so as to make it more controllable for the more average driver who will likely buy the car. They'll never come as close to the limits as in this video and hence never be disappointed.
@WeirdBrick
@WeirdBrick 5 лет назад
But quite a few owners were disappointed with the understeer...
@Dave6177
@Dave6177 5 лет назад
They literally put Senna's name on the car.... And then they put these crappily narrow tyres (that bottleneck everything!) on it so that their rich idiot customer clique wont complain about lack of comfort driving their everyday car to brag around town with.
@markwilson7013
@markwilson7013 5 лет назад
Nice wet weather/dry weather tyre comparison. When are you going to compare the cars? I imagine anyone tracking their car are probably going to put slicks on it!
@grandmasterj5
@grandmasterj5 5 лет назад
Anybody else look at nothing but that seat belt clip during the whole of the gt3 run? 😆
@ardijanuar2036
@ardijanuar2036 5 лет назад
It's for safety net like in the side window, of course it wasn't used during filming or we can't see harris there
@hvymtal8566
@hvymtal8566 5 лет назад
When you start comparing fast road cars unironically to top-shelf racing machines, you can find fault in any car. Turns out the Senna needs 255+ front tires
@brandonlittle6444
@brandonlittle6444 3 года назад
Nice to see a guy who can drive excellently while still presenting what he is experiencing
@jubu3136
@jubu3136 5 лет назад
About time Chris geez. Nice vid
@ballistischerfalke4061
@ballistischerfalke4061 5 лет назад
This Chris Harris video is beautiful, as always...
@JFein
@JFein 5 лет назад
I mean people didn’t ACTUALLY think a road-legal car would be quicker than a GT3 car, did they?
@Briggsian
@Briggsian 5 лет назад
Well Aston is claiming that the Valkyrie is going to be quicker around a track than a F1 car... That remains to be seen
@IschChef
@IschChef 5 лет назад
@@BriggsianAt best faster than a 2016 F1 car.
@Briggsian
@Briggsian 5 лет назад
@@IschChef That'd still be incredibly impressive. The thing is, I know R-comound tires are pretty crazy nowadays, but I just don't see how they're expecting to compete against racing slicks on a car that weighs much less?
@Briggsian
@Briggsian 5 лет назад
@@dons1932 Maybe it would have understeered too much with a wider setup up front, or it could have been too twitchy? Hard to say. Be a great question for the engineers
@dons1932
@dons1932 5 лет назад
​@@Briggsian No I think it has to do with the electronic axle trickery. The race cars use 275, 335 in the same structure. McLaren claim there is some front / rear electrical balance, and combined with the electro-hydro steering, I'd bet it's limited as to what it can actually deal with, to balance front and rear grip. Think of it like Porsche rear steer, but without the rears ACTUALLY steering, but the ECU calculating the split between F and R and adjusting accordingly. Very typical McLaren trickery. And also why the race cars, with all electric trickeries banned, can just use full proper width sizes for mechanical grip. I think the Valkryie has a genuine half a chance of being as quick as its claims, because it basically IS an F1 car with guards by design. This thing is just a souped up P1. And a P1 GTR would absolutely slaughter it, let alone an off the shelf GT3 Macca.
@claydellacava1673
@claydellacava1673 5 лет назад
Great comparison Chris. I'm thinking slicks on the Senna might give it another 2-3 sec on that track right? It's still a road car versus a race car which we typically know the outcome. Fun to watch.
@stefanmaddock5516
@stefanmaddock5516 4 года назад
You can physically see the tyre wall flex in the corners during the well camera shot
@kondjedes4866
@kondjedes4866 5 лет назад
You forgot to add the BOP weight on the GT3!
@srinitaaigaura
@srinitaaigaura 5 лет назад
No matter how insane you engineer a car, nothing beats the gains you get from fitting a set of racing slicks. Nothing. Clearly the GT3 is still in another category in the corners, even if the Senna's HP beats it on the straights. If the GT3 had 800 HP, it would be game over. I mean they casually do 6:20s at race pace, at night on the Nurburgring on the old track part. And all Mclarens for some reason are handicapped by their front tires, even the P1. Come on, even Ferrari puts 265s on similar HP cars. That Senna looks sexy in black though. It's just from the side where it feels a bit out of proportion. I was actually surprised to know that for all the effort into making the strongest brakes on a production car, the GT3s brakes are still better (at least on track).
@3dgar7eandro
@3dgar7eandro 3 года назад
3:13 lets take a moment to appreciate how he just get ahead of that Lamborghini like it was nothing... 😅🤣🤣🤣👏👏👌👌
@WayneMiller1110
@WayneMiller1110 5 лет назад
yeah the glass in the doors is great and cools how to look through until you get in an accident and something flies through it and then impales you
@ajwad3722
@ajwad3722 5 лет назад
Lap times GTS 2.02.687 Senna 2.09.277
@jpracing893
@jpracing893 5 лет назад
Chris Makes a very interesting point about it understreering as it has a 245 front. I dont understand car makers obsession with using a 245 at the front on a performance car. It's such a skinny amount of rubber. Theres a reason Porsche and AMG went 265 for their performance track cars and the lap times show for it. I suppose also theres a reason why the GT3 cars have like 295-305 fronts. Never understood why the fronts are always so small.
@tjk9263
@tjk9263 5 лет назад
Also why doesn't McLaren make the Senna all wheel drive....would help alot also
@RRSmurf
@RRSmurf 5 лет назад
@@tjk9263 Since it's based on the rwd only 720 chassis, I doubt the chassis has space for a driveshaft to the front... Plus, they really wanted it as light as possible so that's also a no to 4wd.
@Paul-pj5qu
@Paul-pj5qu 5 лет назад
Also, slicks would have made a big difference I think, even with 245's.
@tommihommi1
@tommihommi1 5 лет назад
@@tjk9263 AWD doesn't help on the track, it adds way too much weight.
@jpracing893
@jpracing893 5 лет назад
@@Paul-pj5qu Yeah it would be it needs to be road legal so youd get around that by having wider fronts. The car looks compromised because of it.
@C0nadeass0biu
@C0nadeass0biu 4 года назад
Chris Harris is just the guy that can say what is right and not in a car like the Senna. This guy knows what he is talking about and I respect him for his passion and skills. Chris thank you that you exist and thank you for your work.
@colz848
@colz848 4 года назад
Would be interesting to see how much faster the senna would go on slicks, or the gt3 on road tyres
@arjunswaminathan3987
@arjunswaminathan3987 5 лет назад
Was that a Radical RXC Turbo 500 you were following?🧐
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