Jane Do // and that Janice's happy ending is "oh good, she's straight". Not to mention her "revenge" on Regina is essentially laughing at the possibility of being a lesbian.
That honestly pretty much ruins the movie entirely for me. :( I've had lesbophobia directed at me by the biggest female "gay man" lovers. I'm glad we're at least talking about it, though.
@@lizzyc4485 You don’t want a movie you just want a movie to co-sign your belief which is fine but this movie was a bit realistic in that regard, I hear women constantly accuse other women of being in love with them or obsessed with them and vain cool girl aren’t going to be concerned with social justice they’re bullies and that’s what they did. Also during this time being a lesbian was considered pretty normal while men were still using gay panic defense in murder trials, having slurs tossed out at you was normal at gay bars when standing outside for a smoke. The movie was about Mean girls it wasn’t a movie made for gay activism, it was based off a book and I doubt they predicted that it would be celebrated so much in the gay community.
I thought it was notable that the gay character was overweight and not 14-year-old girl thin or hilly with Abercrombie muscle. It's nice to see gay men portrayed as anything besides those two stereotypes.
still, such a missed opportunity not to have Janice be gay at the end (or at least, not end up with anyone, and just have it be ambiguous as to what her orientation is, which i would be satisfied with)
"Mean Girls" is to gay men as "Anchorman" is to straight men. "But you're like really pretty." "Thanks." "So you agree?" "What?" "You think you're really pretty?"
as a very straight cis gendered dude i can say without a doubt this is the chick flick that breaks all sexuality and gender boundaries. you go rantasmo!
Janice was never gay, and the entire point of her backstory was to show how a vicious rumor can destroy someone's life. If Janice actually was gay, then it would undermine that universal message.
Janis is such a lesbian icon fr tho, I wish I had that look and that energy in high school, lol. Instead I was just a shy little androgynous tomboy still deep in the closet without cool hair or clothes.
Janice should have been lesbain at the end of the film. It was so strange that she dated the math rap guy. I also think it would have worked better with Janice's speech for Regina.
I honestly think that I am the only straight male (okay, technically I'm Asexual, but I'm romantically attracted to women) who loves this movie. Then again, I have always been mistaken as gay and I have always had feminine interests, so this isn't surprising.
lilyperry2000 Seriously. I did enjoy seeing Principal Duvall return. But why the fuck did they cast Disney Channel stars in this movie? It doesn't work. It felt like a low-rate, sanitized Disney Channel version of Mean Girls.
Something I'd like to hear your opinion on is Dragon Riders of Pern by Anne MacAferty (Yay for misspelling) there are gay people in that and your sexuality influences where you sit on the dragon rider hierarchy (near the bottom if your interested) and the author herself had some interesting views on how gay relationships worked as well. Just a thought.
Seeing as I was a teenage girl in high school at one time...and an all girl school at that....yeah this was nothing like my school. And I was one of the weirdos but I never noticed any plastics.
I know I am way late to this, but I always thought Cady’s use of the word “queer” was in its literal sense, as in “weird”. Maybe the implication was that she learned it from them, but as a high schooler in 2004, I was lgbt and heard a lot of slurs, but never that one, not from teens. That was definitely words an older generation used.
It always surprises me that i live this movie for conpletely different reasons. The first and second act tell the story of what happens when are insecure, jaded and don’t communicate with each other. In the 3rd act tina feys character makes that very clear. It basically thought me that gossiping is really toxic
When I was in middle school and high school, I acted very stereotypically gay as sort of a defense mechanism. I didn't fit in with the boys at my school, where I was the only openly gay person. Acting like a stereotype made people leave me alone and be friends with the people I wanted to be friends with. Also, since most of them were girls, I wanted to be seen as one of them so they would invite me to things. If you're reading this and wondering why I look the way I do and have the name I have given what I just said, it's a long story involving a semi-coerced gender transition and an eating disorder. LGBTQ and Indian do NOT mix :(
Why do I like your beard so much? Its because I have one just like you! xD I've never seen Mean Girls, ok maybe ten minutes on tv, but thats all. I swear. Afetr all this, now I want to see. X_X Thanks Rantasmo for another video. :) Its so good to see you and it was fun too.
10 years holy s*** this is actually the first movie I saw over at a friends house it was at my friends Alex house he was my best friend during elementary and middle school We watched it almost every time he came over to my house and in our first year of high school We quoted it over and over again... How the hell people didn't know he was gay was always a mystery to me
2:27 Definitely generalizing there, mate. I found that quote pretty funny, but I doubt it was because I like muscular asses. I'm talking about donkeys, of course. Shrek was my favorite movie as a kid.
I think thiw movie has become a gay icon, not because the catty/gossipy culture of the girls, not because the outsider has lost her identity trying to fit in, not even because there's clearly gay character; but because the mean girl squad represent the girl every gay man wanted to be in high-school. They are our alter ego (at least for many of us who are not ashemed of our femininity)... and the humor of course, which is now a classic.
Hey Rantasmo, so love your work, and I just had a very curious question. Is there a chance you might do an episode about old Westerns, or the Western genre in general? I've been watching so many of these old films and even in the spaghetti westerns, there's so much to glean from them.
I feel like there was something missing in this review. He spends a good portion of it pointing out how much of an unnecessary character Damian is but then he doesn't arrive at any conclusion. Is that something that usually happens with gay characters? Is it just a curious thing you noticed and wanted to point out? Is it something that you thing shouldn't have happened? Is it a bad thing, is it good, is it neutral?
I've been told that I'm not so much a heterosexual man as I am a gynophile. I'm not just attracted to women, I'm also attracted to effeminate men. And I really don't see what the big deal is with men being into "girly" stuff. At the end of the day, it's just... Stuff. I used to play with my sister's Barbies and pretend they were giant amazons who could crush the Ninja Turtles under their heels. I'm also a big fan of female narratives, and am in the process of writing a few with the help of my sister.
Because queer is a homophobic slur? No matter what the dictionary says, that doesn’t change the social context of queer=non cishet=bad. Don’t excuse casual homophobia with technicalities
