Same thing happened to me, it was a severe skin tissue problem, and he showed me the photos of other patients from the books as well to make me feel safe. They were much worse than my case. The diagnose was completely right in the end. The medications worked so well for me too. Lol it was my only good experience with another doctor.
The point where I was confident enough to say to a patient or an attending "I don't know, I'll have to check" is a highlight of my development as a doctor. Stupidity is confident, knowledge is uncertaint
i sincerely thank you for the last sentence. as an immunobiochemist, the past three years have been the nuke detonation event of my career and life, as my entire family is in healthcare and i am in diagnostics. the accusations of Fauci being wrong, when all it was (at the beginning) was the normal inherent uncertainty that comes with novel viruses. i still think people decided to take stupid pills to fail this nuance. and i call it nuance to be generous. it should be freaken obvious that novelty literally implies mystery.
I think they’re also a stigma surrounding aspiring/new healthcare professionals vs. seasoned physicians. You look like an inexperienced fish out of water if you do this as a med student or during residency. If you’ve been a doctor for many years, people won’t be as critical.
This sounds lame, but in Socrates last days by Plato, he explains that true wisdom is being without infinite knowledge- but striving to obtain that knowledge through scholarly study, much unlike many men that claimed to be wise without obtaining wisdom in such a way.
Yesterday my SO forgot what a old medicine in the drawer was for. According to online leaftle it was both to diabetics prevention or lombar and spine problem 😂
i believe once while i was severely drugged up from the hospital, someone asked if these effects were normal because of the meds i took at the time, and i remember them saying they had to check my chart or smth like that. big brain moment to poor 14 yo me 😭😭
This is very common with antidepressants, anxiety meds etc. Any professional worth their salt should be asking exactly why you were prescribed them. Checking your chart may just be a way to save you some embarrassment or from having a huge therapy session on the spot tbh
@@AramatiPazthe way that works is they develop a medication for one thing and during trials find out that it has the side effect of fixing something else. So they make it another main thing
My doctor who’s in his 60’s, and had been practicing medicine for decades, opened a medical book to find the appropriate medication for my issue, and spent 10 minutes reading, simply because he didn’t know if what he planned to give me was okay to give a type 1 diabetic. I was actually happy he did that, because it meant he was being careful and thought of my wellbeing.
Love that! My friends doctor wouldn't prescribe her other meds for her morning sickness(even though I had given her a list of 3 different meds that my sister knows work well for several women) simply because she doesnt know the meds.....well then how about getting to know them by *reading a book* or *asking a pharmacy*. U know, broadening your horizon...
To be honest, if doctor wouldn't know what he is doing, he would spent much more than 10 minutes. Education doesn't make humans all-knowing machines, but makes humans know what to search
@@Nice_Tree Of course. Being a good doctor is also being good at looking up information and using it appropriately. I’m sure he just needed to double-check something to be completely certain of what he was doing, which is why it only took 10 minutes.
Had a nurse double check my medication list with me one time when he listed off the SSRI I’m on. I’ve never even tried to pronounce the generic name of it before so when he said it I was like “Oh! That’s how you pronounce that” and he shot back with “Is it? I was just guessing.” Had a good chuckle after that and to this day, neither of us know how to pronounce the medication
@@K20Ashiqin if it makes you feel any better, escitalopram comes from the name citalopram, another SSRI. It's the "s-isomer" (specific chemical configuration) of citalopram hence the name *es*citalopram
once a veterinarian open a medical drug book in front of me before mixing some medicine for my cat. i truly feel more safe when a doctor double checked! i know they are also a human who can struggle with their thing so i am forever grateful when they being extra careful and honest in front of a patient
My doctor literally looked up my medicine on google in front of me to check for any interactions with other medicines. And then still failed to notice that there was in fact interactions that would’ve been very bad. He’s a good doctor, I love him, but like dude wtf. Luckily I caught it before taking the first dose and called him, listened to him ask one of the more senior doctors, and then get absolutely roasted by that doctor. 😂
@@thatonedog819 Pharmacist can’t catch everything if patient picks up meds at multiple pharmacies to save money. For examples, lots of patients get their 3 months supply of maintenance meds from mail order pharmacy and only fill their fridge/injectable/controls at the local pharmacy 😅
Learning to say "I don't know" is such a valuable skill for med students. There's so much to know, you will never know it all. You will have to learn to say it eventually.
As a patient, i would be more comfortable with doctors and nurses that say "i dont know" or look things up. I think its unrealistic to expect someone to remember so many different things at once. I trust you've learned about it, i don't mind if you've forgotten it. I barely remember my own birthday xD
Most of the specialists I’ve been to always checked in front of me what medications were for. They often did it with a “let’s see it together so it’s clear for both of us”. It’s actually a really nice things that shows they’re humans. Clearly, family doctors usually prescribe the same few things over and over again and have no need to do it. But specialists have to see so many different things and prescribe something new for everything, it’s only natural for them to not remember everything
As a nurse: Google before you enter the room! NEVER give anyone a med if you don’t know why you are giving it to them. The computer literally has the link to micromedex in the MAR.
My doctor literally does it all the time😂. She doesn’t make it obvious and you can’t see what she does on her computer but you can definitely tell lol.
It makes sense though, how much can you even remember when you are supposed to remember even more critical things like the human anatomy, surgical procedures and emergency tactics to save a life!
We rushed my dog to the vet once because she ate something she wasn’t supposed to. When we told the vet he paused, sat down, Googled it, quietly went “Huh, I didn’t know they couldn’t eat that” then grabbed her like “yeah let me go pump her stomach real quick.”
@@Orion-ih5xl Grapes. Some dogs can eat them with no problem but others can go into heart failure. Last I read about it, I don’t think it’s really understood why it’s okay for some and not others, but it was a risk we didn’t want to take.
My doctor goggles stuff in front of me and I love her for it. She may be an expert on the human body but I don't expect her to be able to remember every drug.
And that's why doctors write with the most unintelligible handwriting ever known to mankind that would make their teachers cry so that they wont have to answer the patients
The issue with that is that many medications have multiple uses, theyd also have to memorize your chart to remember exactly why you needed it lol. Im on epilepsy medication for bipolar disorder 😅 id also just google it at that point.
I swear I'm a Pharmacy student and aspiring to do MS in Pharmacognosy. I tell my family members to not trust the medicines and just let the mild diseases heal themselves 😂
I used to work as a pharmacy assistant... Customers expect you to know that information all the time and you have no training in prescription medications and you can't even google it! It could be very stressful. Especially on a bad phone line with them mispronouncing all the medication names. Worse still, I used to do some dispensing and would get phonecalls from doctors at hospitals requesting histories on patients (often taking a mountain of different medications for numerous medical conditions). The pharmacist would always be busy and the doctor would always be too impatient to wait. But then the doctor would get impatient with me reading everything out and go, "Just tell me what medication they're on for X condition!". Ah yes, because when you're wanting critical medical information, you should rely on a 21 year-old with no formal medical training guessing what medications they've never heard of do!
This is why it annoys me when medical professionals judge people for searching symptoms online like bruh, you’re gonna use the same thing to diagnose me! 😅
Yes and no. I think it's good that one does their research, and all, but at the same time, I wouldn't be happy if they thought their 15 mn google search is more reliable than my full time training as healthcare provider, because if a doc is searching, they need a small detail, otoh, the patient doesn't have any background in medicine. However, i do believe it's good to take a 2nd opinion from another doctor for heavy cases/surgeries/etc. Stay healthy, my homie.
@@imane5819 My problem with this is how many times I’ve been right just for the doctor to ignore me because they thought they knew best, lol. Had a mysterious skin issue on my vulva for YEARS, most doctors ignored it. After A LOT of research I felt like I needed a topical steroid. Went to so many doctors and was told nothing was wrong. Until I went to a Planned Parenthood and the doctor was shocked and prescribed me… a very strong topical steroid cream.
Nah we have our own sites. In NZ, we use NZ formulary for drugs and UpToDate as our “google” database. These are all certified and the info comes from peer-reviewed recent journal articles that align with local health guidelines so a lot more reliable than wikipedia or google.
diagnosis involves History taking, General examination ( 24 points to be noted) , Systemic examination , Investigation , Co relation of symptoms,history and signs to confirm dx . Doctors, throughout the entire course of medicine(1 out of about 11 main subjects) study how to reach dx for a particular disease, exclude other d/d , what d/d to keep in mind even after diagnosis , I don't think it is that easy , Neither would I expect non-clinical persons to understand that though .
I am planning to go into health care, but I am a little scared about it. Seeing posts like this make me feel better because it makes me understand that its ok not to know everything, as long as you use due diligence and double check informa before sharing it with patients
I don’t need my doctor to be a walking encyclopedia. I just need them to _actually_ understand what they read. They have instant access to it, but if they genuinely understand something they won’t need to keep looking it ups
I feel safer when my doctors take the effort to look it up before any prescription 😂 and they make sure to check my medical history and charts and everything too.
Yeah, I was once assisting an ICT expert on the field. He had forgotten how to do that specific installation so he googled it front of the client. The client didn't mind, she was just thankful for getting the problem solved.
id prefer a doctor or medical professional that googles stuff in front of me. medicine changes and progresses every day and it never hurts to double check!
Same. I'm like "I'm not quite sure! There are plenty of reasons you could be on that medication. Let's see what you're taking it for!" Is my go to lmao
You are only human, trying to rely on memory alone cam cause simple mistakes like misremembering or getting things mixed up, so googling it should help the patient feel better lol
I've often seen my GP double check something on her computer and honestly, I like it. It gives me confidence that she's continually studying medicine and is up-to-date on the latest information.
Because medicine advances so much nowadays, my mom once spend like 2 months having to seriously google some medication for infertility since she spend 1 year out of her practice because if an injury. She would pull out her phone in front of patients and be like "hold up, let's check if I'm not killing you" 😂😂😂
For what it’s worth. Lawyers are required to never go off memory cause that shit could have changed this morning. I’d rather have someone Google check themselves before they wreck myself. 👍
Our clinical instructor taught us what to say when patients ask this particular question. Patient: What's this medicine for? Student nurse: It's for you. it works... most of the time.
This is why i love my general practitioner. She was looking things up in front of me and saying she didnt know certain things and it made me gain so much respect for her.
One time we brought my brother to the doctor, he prescribed a medicine that gave my brother nightmares (as a side effect) we told the doctor and he said "I don't really know the side effects, let me Google it" and prescribed another medicine
I don't know if this is a saying in the human medical field, but in vet med I see people say "learning is like throwing shit at a barn. Some of it sticks and you know where to find the rest"
My doctor always grabs her phone out to do math or Google stuff like medicine or interactions. I never even thought to care about it, like thank you for being extra certain bc I would rather that every time.
Not a medical professional but am an academic who takes a bunch of meds, I understand why doctors have to search things up - who can remember every med in the world. Hell, I search up the meds usually before even asking about them.
100% better to admit to a patient “actually, I’m not entirely sure. Let me check the literature real quick” than to bullshit an answer. It makes you more human and relatable to clients AND helps prevent mistakes made from just making wild guesses
My doctors have never googled in form of me but I liked how causally my orthopedist asked me if I’m suicidal. He’s like I’m giving you antidepressants you don’t want to kill yourself do you? And I said no and he went great then let’s hope this helps your pain
