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Medicare Advantage Plan vs Supplement Plan - Beware! 

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@Vicos
@Vicos Год назад
What a racket. Don't forget that along with SS tax your entire life, you were also taxed for Medicare. Then when you finally qualify for it, you have to pay for it plus get private supplement policies.
@kevinharlan46
@kevinharlan46 Год назад
Where does the money really go?
@MadeInNewYork73
@MadeInNewYork73 Год назад
THANK YOU for revising your Medicare advice! If the disADVANTAGE plans were so great for YOU they wouldn't be promoted so heavily. Also, agents get bigger incentives to write them. Happy G customer..live in Sr Apt & constantly hear these D plan customers think its the Bomb. Just smh & walk away. They believe the BS.
@Vicos
@Vicos Год назад
@@kevinharlan46 The politicians spend it as part of the general budget. There's too much money sitting there for them to keep their greedy hands off of it.
@johnthompson5792
@johnthompson5792 Год назад
Exactly!
@highbrass3749
@highbrass3749 Год назад
That’s why they call it a Ponzi scheme. If you invested all this money your whole working life you would be a multimillionaire.
@kathyrnsorensen3571
@kathyrnsorensen3571 Год назад
Hi from Phoenix Arizona , we are burning up , glad I found you channel love you and Miss Tammy!
@musicman8270
@musicman8270 Год назад
Recently I had a major problem, the ambulance was 13,000, I had to pay 250 under my advantage plan. The hospital billed 550,000😮. The plan payed 52,000 and my part was 2600, about what a gap plan would cost for a year. My medicine copay is usually paid by February. Most importantly there is no monthly payment. A major deal is going to cost you a boatload of money under any circumstance
@rosemarygomez9848
@rosemarygomez9848 Год назад
you are so right about getting a supplement instead of an Advantage plan. My dad was diagnosed with esophageal cancer and his GI doctor highly suggested he go to MD Anderson in Houston for treatment. Because they have a supplement, they have had very little out of pocket expenses...the most $40 for a medication every three months. He had to be emergently flown to MD Anderson from his hometown (900 miles away) and there was no out of pocket expense because the supplement picked up the balance. Had they had one of the advantage plans, he may not have been able to be treated at MDA because the providers have to be in network. I'm glad you are getting this information out in easy-to-understand language so we can make informed decisions.
@vegas_trip7949
@vegas_trip7949 Год назад
If you make 1700 social security get an advantage plan with a low max out of pocket. The supplement plans are for wealthy folks. The you tube supplement salesmen don't tell you that.
@joanneburford6364
@joanneburford6364 Год назад
Good grief - the fact that your health insurance is attached to your jobs is ridiculous. When will the US catch up with the rest of the developed world 🤦‍♀️
@darleneporter4876
@darleneporter4876 Год назад
You should check what is the best for the state you live in and what is best for your health situation. I am fortunate and have great health.. I live in Texas and had a supplement plan when I turned 65 after a few months I switched to a advantage plan. The premiums I paid for the supplement plan was more then the out of pocket expenses for a advantage plan. I am 72 now and the money I saved from the extra cost of a supplement plan has given me a nice little nest egg.
@paurider
@paurider Год назад
I am on the AARP Advantage Plan and recently suffered a slip & fall in my home, breaking my patella. I was denied rehab facility after my surgery because the hospital case worker had PT come and encourage me to walk while I had a nerve block in my leg. Insurance decided I walked to far to qualify. I was informed by a friend that United Healthcare denies this type of coverage 90% of the time. What a sham. We are switching to medigap in the fall.
@deborahilyia1125
@deborahilyia1125 Год назад
I am on NO medication and I am 70 years old.
@pamettmayer2391
@pamettmayer2391 Год назад
Good for you, my dad was 88 yrs. old and developed A fib. The mediation was very pricey. He was on advantage plan.
@pamettmayer2391
@pamettmayer2391 Год назад
He did not pass away from AFib.
@pennyelliot5658
@pennyelliot5658 Год назад
I have Tricare military insurance right now..when I'm 62 n retire..I will get Medicare supplement as my first insurance and Tricare will become my secondary...what Medicare doesn't pay, Tricare will...Im very lucky to have Tricare as I only pay a small copay for meds and most my drs are covered !!
@purposeful49418
@purposeful49418 Год назад
I know I'll be the lone-wolf here regarding Advantage plans, but here's what I know. Both of my parents have been on Humana Advantage for over 20 years. I can say nothing negative, for us. And, we've have had our share of medical calamities. Mom had a subdural hematoma with open craniotomy brain surgery, including ICU, coma, nursing home rehab, in-home rehab, etc. Huge scary hospital bill, over 150K, I believe total out of pocket was around $2,000. Mom came through miraculously and is now 92 in great health. We never had issues with approvals, facilities, denials, etc. Dad had stroke and died after two weeks in hospital. Very small out of pocket expense. Currently, mom pays no monthly premium for her Humana due to the high participation in our area, plus, she rarely pays anything for her medications. Although, she is weird, since she only takes two pills per day for BP. Mom was recently hospitalized with flu/pneumonia for about 3-weeks which included rehab hospital and in home physical therapy. Again, total out of pocket was less than $2,000. Our choices of hospitals and doctors are great and we've never had issues for over 20 years. I found Humana customer service to be exceptional and caring and we've never had any problems. I understand the issues other may have with their regional providers and individual health conditions.
@g0989
@g0989 Год назад
@texustop, Medigap plans are standardized, and they have to pay for Medicare-approved services, no questions asked. So, it becomes a question of which "letter" plan is best for you, and then you can shop price. Advantage plans have to cover at least the same services as original Medicare, but beyond that, can vary considerably. Some are better than others. For, example, usually better choice of in-network providers if you are getting care in a large-population metro, than a smaller one. Then, PPOs usually have more robust networks than HMOs, on top of that. So, with more to consider, you have to shop carefully. I suspect the Advantage plan horror stories that are being relayed to us, are based on anecdotal accounts that may not represent the aggregate experience. Human tendency is to speak out about a bad experience, whereas they are less likely to do so if things work as they should.
@kleewolf434
@kleewolf434 Год назад
Tim is right about the cost. I could not afford the "G" plan plus the "" D" monthly plan. I had no other choice but to take the cheaper Medicare advantage option which including drugs. My social security monthly check (minus the 160.00 for Part B) barely covers my living expenses/food. I did go for the PPO plan so i could keep seeing my Primary Care Doctor. The PPO plan cost me $23.00 monthly, you do what you can, and pray to God for his protection. Most hospitals do not want to treat you if you are my age (70) or older - whether you have "G"' or Medicare Advantage. I saw first hand when my Mother was over 65 and the medical professional treatment of the elderly has gotten worse since she passed.
@jkopvo
@jkopvo Год назад
Hi Tim, Thanks for the video! My wife is turning 65 this year, so we have been researching. Our initial thoughts were to go with a G-HD plan, as we thought the MA plans were all HMO. We learned that there are PPO MA plans (actually MAPD plans, meaning Medicare Advantage plans that include Prescription Drug coverage) and some, like Humana, for example, is what we were considering, has a nationwide PPO network. So, IOW, if we were travelling to another state, we could go to an in-network doctor or facility in another state with no problem. Although there are co-pays with these MAPD plans, to my recollection, there was no deductible, and there was an OOP (out of pocket) limit around $4700. So this, with no additional premium, plus some dental, vision, hearing, gym, and OTC benefits - was pretty enticing. However, we heard that Clark Howard calls them (dis)advantage plans, because of, as you mentioned, the need for approval. Now, one would hope that, like the ACA plan you and I are currently on, respected insurance companies like Florida Blue would approve appropriately. I have heard, however, that with some, like United Healthcare, it has been harder to get approvals. We also realized, as you mentioned, that after the first year, if you develop health issues, it may be difficult or impossible to switch to a supp plan. However, you can switch from a supp plan to an MA plan any year, with no underwriting. So, as much as the Humana PPO MAPD plan sounded very nice and inexpensive, we decided to go back with our original inclination, and went with a G-HD supp and the cheapest Part D plan in FL. I should note too that we don't even intend to use the Part D plan that we are purchasing. One of my wife's drugs is not covered by an Part D plan, so we're planning to use GoodRX. However, as you probably know, if you delay signing up for a Part D plan, you will be penalized (for life) if/when you ever do sign up, and the longer you wait, the more you will be penalized. You mentioned repricing supp plans each year. One note is that if you develop health issues, you may not be able to change supp plans (due to underwriting), but I believe that you can stay with your current supp plan for life. Perhaps you will discuss the G-HD plan in another video. It is basically the same as a G supp, except that you have an annual deductible of $2700 (for 2023, but this will increase annually). This can be a good option if you have enough savings to cover your deductible for several year. To compare: In our area of FL, plan G-HD is approx. $50/month, while plan G is approx. $170/month. So although, we have a $2700 annual deductible, we will be saving $1440/year on premiums. So if folks are generally healthy (and thus only occasionally have a year when they have to pay the full deductible), they can save enough on the healthy years to cover their deductible on an occasional heavy expense (met the deductible) year. One other note on comparing supps. Even though multiple insurance companies provide the same coverage for plan G (as defined by Medicare), prices can vary, so generally that would lead to purchasing the cheapest. However, another factor is the rate at which that company has increased their plan G premium in recent years (and thus may continue to increase at that rate). This is info that I believe good agents can access. When folks near Medicare age, they will be inundated with mailings from agents wanting to represent them. Similar to you, I looked for an agent on RU-vid. In particular, I found one who had made videos explaining the advantages of plan G-HD, so we went with him. Thanks again for your videos. I used to live in BB myself years ago. Have a great day, John :)
@rogercvc6768
@rogercvc6768 Год назад
DISadvantage is right. Clark Howard would be on the Mt Rushmore of personal finance experts. Also he isn’t a fan of taking SS early in most cases.
@tioswift3676
@tioswift3676 Год назад
As a Medicare agent, I appreciate this post!
@tioswift3676
@tioswift3676 Год назад
@@JohnSullivan-zj6eu that’s because you are relatively healthy and have tier 1 meds. Once you need something more than meds or a regular checkup, that’s when you’ll see bills come
@lennylipe6434
@lennylipe6434 Год назад
Love the lizard at 9:50-10:20, too!
@danielhuntington2116
@danielhuntington2116 Год назад
Hi Tim...great job....I got my medicare a year ago and took the G plan. My deductable this year was $226. I live in Lee County FL and my premium for it bumped up a little bit now to $197 monthly. If you can afford the premuim it is the way to go knocking out all the network issues...co pays and higher deductables...let alone underwriting issues💪💪 I have my drug plan through United Healthcare/AARP at $29 monthly. For those coming into medicare you can sign up 3 months before 65 so it kicks in on your 65 birthday...or your birthday month and up to 3 months after your birthday. After that there are penalties. You crushed it!!....and may all going on medicare crush it!!
@todddunn945
@todddunn945 Год назад
If you can afford it the G plan is the way to go. So far this year I have had almost $84,000 in medical bills. I have traditional Medicare parts A and B plus a G plan. After my premiums (164.90 for Medicare Part B and $212 for the G plan), all I have had to pay out of my $84K in medical bills this year has been my $226 deductible. So far this year my G plan has paid out about $13,000. I didn't have to get any approvals for the two surgeries I have had this year and there are zero copays. Yeah it is expensive ($388/mo when you include my Part D drug plan - $11.10/mo for the Wellcare plan), but I think the peace of mind is worth it. Good presentation. There are a few things to consider when choosing a supplement. First, there are three ways that supplement plan premiums are determined. They are age based premiums, age at issue based premiums and community based premiums. Before I explain the three premium models, I want to clarify that supplement premiums do change every year due to inflation. Age based premiums are determined by your age and you can expect the premium to increase every year as you get older simply because you are older. This increase is in addition to inflation based increases. Age at issue plans base your premium on how old you are when you first get the policy. After that the premium doesn't change except for inflation based increases. This type of pricing is only really an issue if you have a plan through your employer that you keep and delay starting Medicare. So an age at issue policy will cost more if you start it at 70 than if you start it at 65. The final premium pricing plan is called community pricing. If a policy has community pricing everyone in the plan pays the same no matter how old they are. Often age based plans will be cheapest at age 65, but the age based increases can make those plans very expensive as you get older. Age at issue and community plans will not have premium increases simply due to your age, but they may be more expensive when you are 65. Second, in every zip code there are a bunch of different companies offering plans. As Tim said, all the plans are the same in terms of coverage. The pricing is all over the place though and a $300/mo plan is NOT better coverage than the same plan that costs $200/mo. However, each company has a track record of how they increase prices. Some have much larger increases than others, so a plan that is cheaper now may be more expensive in five years if that company tends to have larger inflation based increases. A good agent should be able to help you with this. The other factor is how many people are in the plan in your area. Supplement plan pricing is state regulated, but how much a plan charges is tied to how many people are in the plan in your rating area. The more people there are in the plan, the more stable the pricing will be because the insurance company can spread the risk farther. A plan that is just breaking into a market may start out with a low premium to get customers, but then have big price increases a they develop a claim history. So it pays to find out which plan covers the most people. Again a good agent will have this information. Third, although you can in theory change plans during their open enrollment period (which is not the same as the open enrollment period for advantage plans and drug plans), the companies are NOT required to accept you after the initial enrollment period (6 months centered around your 65th birthday). The companies can ask you health questions and use your answers to those questions to set your premium or decide not to accept you. There are some state that require supplement plans to accept you, but they can ask you health questions and use those questions to set your rate even though they have to accept you. So in most states changing plans can range from easy to expensive to impossible. Note that if you do change plans they can have pre-existing condition exclusions for 6 months or so after the change. A couple of points about Part D drug plans. Unless you hae creditable coverage from an employer group plan, if you don't go with a drug plan from age 65 there is a penalty of 1% of the average national monthly premium for every month you delay starting the Part D plan. So if you wait 5 years to start that Part D plan, that is 60 months and your penalty will be 60% of the national average premium. That penalty is added to whatever your Part D premium is and lasts for the rest of your life. The current ntional average premium is $32.64/mo so my 60% penalty would be an extra $19.58/mo. Part D drug plans are currently undergoing some BIG changes. Those plans have deductibles and copays (not that for almost all plans the deductible does not apply to generic drugs) and there is currently no limit to how much the copays can add up to. For example people taking expensive cancer pills can have copays that are more than $10K per year. However, in 2024, there will be a limit to copays and in 2025 that limit drops to $2,000. One last thing about drug plans under Medicare Advantage plans. They are the same as stand alone drug plans and the drug plan copays do NOT count toward your Medicare Advantage plans maximum out of pocket. Those drug copays are currently unlimited. Tim, my wife has narrow angle glaucoma and she uses Timolol eye drops and her Wellcare plan covers those drops at 100% from day 1. Her eye doctor initially wanted her to use very expensive drops, but she asked if there was a generic she could use instead. That is how she ended up with the timolol drops. Fortunately they work for her. The Wellcare premium is $11.10/mo. Finally, the Medicare.gov web site has a huge amount of information on it and it a great resource. It can be a bit tricky to navigate though.
@kathrynj.hernandez8425
@kathrynj.hernandez8425 Год назад
CANNOT AFFORD G PLAN.
@todddunn945
@todddunn945 Год назад
@@kathrynj.hernandez8425 People who can't afford a supplement generally should go into a Medicare Advantage plan, but it is a good idea to try to have a year or two of the maximum out of pocket in savings just in case you have a bad patch. There are other cheaper plans. N is popular and generally quite a bit cheaper than G.
@STB921
@STB921 Год назад
I have the F plan through BCBS which is no longer available but is the best of the best, no deductible. I have chronic health issues so I don’t want to play around by changing. Three years ago I was hospitalized heart surgery and repaired an aneurysm. Total cost over one million dollars and I didn’t have to pay a dime. I never have to pay anything for doctor visits, labs, or therapies
@christinestrider6406
@christinestrider6406 Год назад
Very WORTHY!!!
@kathyann9643
@kathyann9643 Год назад
High Deductible G so far has been working for me. My premium is only $46 per month (living in Florida). Medicare still pays 80% of everything and my yearly cap is $2,700. If you go with United you can switch to a regular G or N plan in two years with no underwriting and they will still give you the age 65 rate.
@CD-ql9hz
@CD-ql9hz Год назад
I decided to go with high deductible G also. I did a lot of research on the subject and high deductible G is a viable option. Avoid the advantage plans if it all possible!
@tioswift3676
@tioswift3676 Год назад
Unless you live in a state that has rules on this, you will have to go through underwriting going from a HG to G or N. Depends on the state.
@kathyann9643
@kathyann9643 Год назад
@@tioswift3676 With United American you have the option to switch in 2 years with no underwriting.
@kimberlyhale5225
@kimberlyhale5225 Год назад
Absolutely! I too am an RN who works with managed care and utilization review (insurance reviews). MCR Advantage plans are difficult to work with (as are most other commercial Insurance plans now days) that MICRO-Manage your ability to use your benefits. The customer service with these plans is extremely difficult to access and the benefits are difficult to navigate or understand. I spend hours every week on the phone (or worse, the website portals) trying to request and submit hospital prior and continuing-stay authorization requests. I don't know how the average consumer manages to get any help at all with these companies.
@mytwocents4892
@mytwocents4892 Год назад
Like my Grandfather said the government will give you money in one hand and take it out of the other one.
@MysticDoorTarot888
@MysticDoorTarot888 Год назад
Hi Tim. Love your channel ❤ You had me at " 62 collect your SS" One thing also to look at if you are going with plan G or plan N etc. The pricing for the policies. There are 3 ways companies set the premiums. # 1 Issue Age Pricing # 2 Community Pricing # 3 Attained Age Related Go with #1 Pricing if you are 65 Doesn't go up as you get older but just inflation. Community Pricing is everyone gets the same price but premium increases based on how much they are paying out plus inflation #3 goes up based on your age and inflation
@dar7771
@dar7771 Год назад
There is a free advocacy group out there to assist people free of charge in picking a plan that will work for their needs. Also there to assist in billing issues. They are called Hi-CAP. “Health Insurance Counseling and Advocacy Program.
@Momtocam1997
@Momtocam1997 Год назад
Medicare can exhaust too. It did with my Mother when she was in and out of hospitals for ongoing periods of time.
@g0989
@g0989 Год назад
Yes, you could exhaust your lifetime reserve days with original Medicare, especially if you have extended stays.
@johnmarino4085
@johnmarino4085 Год назад
Tim I started watching your channel for minimalist suggestions and now you’re helping me understand health insurance. Thank you so much!
@N4UPD
@N4UPD Год назад
You need to check into the N plan with more detail. I've seen videos that talk about the premium for the G plan will go up at a faster rate due to plan G has to accept pre-existing conditions while you have to go through the underwriters to get into the N plan and with the G plan having more patients and probably sicker patients they raise premiums faster than the N plan. That info should make it easier to decide which plan to get. If you are healthy and can get through the underwriting get the N plan but If you have pre-existing conditions that will make you have more doctors visits and need more medical care then go to the G plan. Just passing this along from what I've heard. Great videos Tim . Keep up the good work.
@danielhuntington2116
@danielhuntington2116 Год назад
The one thing we can never know is what might happen with our health moving forward...this is why...if you can afford the g plan premiums stick with it...to knock out all the possibilities of medical $$$ surprises along the way....if that medical surprise comes along.
@todddunn945
@todddunn945 Год назад
All supplement plans have accept everyone during the initial enrollment period (6-7 months centered around your 65th bitrthday). In other words no plan can consider pre-existing conditions when you first sign up. The pre-existing condition screening only come in if you try to sign up for a plan later or you try to change plans. For example if you initially went with a Medicare Advantage plan then two years later decided to go back to original Medicare and buy a supplement. In that case the supplement company will use medical underwriting to decide if they will sell you a plan and if they will sell you a plan how much to charge you.
@kibblenbits
@kibblenbits Год назад
If you already have health insurance and are retiring, there are no pre-existing underwriting requirements for any Supplemental Plan, they have to accept you (you will have to show proof of your current health insurance coverage). If you've already retired and took Advantage, longer than a very specific amount of time (you'd want to look it up for the exact amount of the time allowed), and you want to change to a Supplemental Plan, then you'd have to be approved by underwriting, for pre-existing conditions, in order to change to any Supplemental Plan. If you have no health insurance at all, you would have to go through underwriting for any Supplemental Plan. It is not broken down by each Supplemental Plan letter. The G Plan rate is going up faster, because it has a higher number of enrollees, and has the best coverage.
@todddunn945
@todddunn945 Год назад
@@kibblenbits You only have to go through underwriting for a supplement plan if you were uninsured and didn't buy the supplement at age 65. If you are uninsured and buy a supplement during your initial enrollment period there is no underwriting. The initial enrollment period is the 7 months centered on the month you turn 65. During that period it doesn't matter what insurance you had or didn't have.
@musicman8270
@musicman8270 Год назад
And I haven't been billed for the 2600 yet. Probably been paid by charity. Or if not I'll make payments
@chuckkent1
@chuckkent1 Год назад
Love your videos! Florida is one of the best medicare advantage states for benefits. Plans are available with no monthly fee from SS, no annual deductible, tier 1&2 drugs with no copay, and no copay from your primary doctor. It is a HMO. Care plus and Devoted are two of the biggest. We have been with them 8 yrs. and love the coverage. Save big money!
@GuyzLikeMe
@GuyzLikeMe Год назад
Two Choices: 1) Medicare that pays 80% doctor/hospital & buy a Supplement that pays the other 20% OR 2) Advantage Plan that mostly covers 100% of doctor/hospital BUT u must use their doctors & hospitals & they may NOT approve all operations etc. STAY WITH MEDICARE & BUY A SUPPLEMENTAL SO U AREN’T STUCK WITH ADVANTAGE PLAN DOCTORS & HOSPITALS IMO!
@jenniferlee7167
@jenniferlee7167 Год назад
So very true, I am a former nurse and I can tell you the Advantage plans drop benefits like dental and gym membership at any time and your doctor can also drop out once you are established. Furthermore, if you are out of your covered area and get sick with an Advantage plan then they will require pre-authorization for procedures and you do not want to wait on the that it takes time and if not done well, it will cost YOU out of pocket.
@judith3774
@judith3774 Год назад
Exactly!
@pamcornelius9122
@pamcornelius9122 Год назад
💯 right.
@GuyzLikeMe
@GuyzLikeMe Год назад
@@beautyRest1 Healthy today, Stage 4 Cancer tomorrow!
@muzerhythm2242
@muzerhythm2242 Год назад
I feel it depends on your medical needs....if you're healthy but need eyeglasses (like I do), or dental, and have your gym membership covered and Advantage Plan is good choice. If on other hand if you have more serious medical issues and in and out of the hospital frequently, then Medicare Supplement Plan is good. For me I'm on SSDI and when Advantage Plans came around I was so happy to finally have my glasses covered and not go too many years without new prescription because I couldn't afford new glasses, and to be able to go to the dentist again.
@greyholcombjr.9623
@greyholcombjr.9623 11 месяцев назад
I would take out a Reverse Mortgage on my home to be able to afford a Medicare Medigap/Supplement premium to avoid a Disadvantage / Part C plan. Thankfully that is not my financial situation. I bought Plan N supplement for less than $100 per month premium in NC. AARP United Healthcare.
@jenniferlee7167
@jenniferlee7167 Год назад
Tim the premiums on the G plan go up way faster than on the N plan. There is very little difference and because so many people went from F to G--they are way more expensive than the N Plan. WHY:? Well, with Plan N, the patient has more skin in the game and may pay up to $20.00 co-pay at the doctor's office and $50.00 at the Emergency Room ONLY if you are not admitted. If you are admitted to the hospital then no copay will be assessed. Once the $226.00 deductible is met you pay nothing more--except the monthly premium.
@PatrickFoley-vf3lr
@PatrickFoley-vf3lr Год назад
They do not automatically enroll you in part B, you have to make that decision.
@johnmiller4282
@johnmiller4282 Год назад
They did for me
@sct4040
@sct4040 Год назад
If you are already on SS, Part A & B are automatic. If you are NOT on SS, you must apply on ssa.gov
@bonnierende2468
@bonnierende2468 Год назад
That’s correct
@pinschrunner
@pinschrunner Год назад
Sorry, but there are 3 choices, not ,2. You can keep STRAIGHT MEDICARE AND CAN TREAT ALL OVER THE US WHEREVER YOU TRAVEL AND MERELY PAY THE 20%. 20% IS OFTENTIMES CHEAPER THAN ANY CO-PAY BECAUSE IT IS 20% OF THE DISCOUNTED GOVERNMENT MEDICARE PAYMENT, NOT THE ARTIFICIAL CASH PAY AMOUNT BILLED. Frequently, this amount is less than any CO-PAY. AND NO MONTHLY PREMIUMS FROM A SUPPLEMENT. You can bank those yourself in the coffee jar to pay any hospital deductible in case you need it ever. Keep your premiums.
@pinschrunner
@pinschrunner Год назад
Thanks for the reminder about the annual Medicare deductible of $200+ in January of each year 😊
@mickeyharyanto9115
@mickeyharyanto9115 Год назад
Thank you Tim!!! I am a nurse- retiring in 2months woo hoo- and I can vouch for everything you are saying about Medicare. I have seen the worst of care denied with Medicare Advantage plans. They are fine until you need medical care or services. Keep up the great work if informing people with the truth. You’re crushing it!
@cindyonyoutube
@cindyonyoutube Год назад
Thanks SO much for covering this!!
@JBoy340a
@JBoy340a Год назад
No way we wanted to do Medicare Advantage and have an insurance company decide which doctors we could or could not see, which hospital or other labs we could use, etc. I had enough of that BS with my company plan tied to a medical network. We went with regular Medicare and got a gap supplement. It has been great. Go to any doctor that takes Medicare, and most do, when I want. If needed, the doctor can then recommend the best specialist regardless of which network they are in. If ever needed, hospital costs are covered, without having to pay for the first X days out of pocket.
@stephaniem8927
@stephaniem8927 Год назад
I’ve been waiting for this video! ❤ My husband and I are researching these different plans. We live in Ohio so we will probably go with the N plan after consulting an insurance broker. The N plan is just like G but it can allow the rare event of excess charges. But in Ohio and 8-9 other states it doesn’t allow the excess charges. Also, the G plan can increase at faster premium rates by 18-20% than N over the years. We would never consider Advantage. We may need health insurance prior to age 65. I would like to know a little more than you discussed in this video about the ACA/ObamaCare.
@billlock77
@billlock77 Год назад
Love my plan N ! Been on it 2 years and no price increases ! Very stable ! Me and the wife pay $165 a month for both of us ! I also live in Ohio !
@stephaniem8927
@stephaniem8927 Год назад
@@billlock77 That’s good to know about the cost.
@user-rb6fx1dz6l
@user-rb6fx1dz6l Год назад
The best sentence I see in your paragraph about is "We would never consider Advantage." You're off to a great start there! If you can find an agent that steers you away from Advantage and towards Medigap then you've really found yourself an honest agent. They get bigger commissions pushing Advantage, so guess which many will try and push you towards. Yep.
@hoosier_daddy65
@hoosier_daddy65 Год назад
I watch the "Medicare School" videos - He explains it very well and I'm 3 yrs out!
@greyholcombjr.9623
@greyholcombjr.9623 11 месяцев назад
Recently purchased AARP United Healthcare plan N in NC. Less than $100 per month premium. Thankful I can afford Medigap policy premiums. I would purchase Medicare plan GHD supplement before I would go on a Medicare Disadvantage/Part C privately controlled by a insurance company.
@johnbruenn8755
@johnbruenn8755 Год назад
Plan Z - leave the country and get an International health care plan for $1200 PER YEAR PER couple. Good anywhere in the world EXCEPT the USA. You’ll never guess why.
@johnyracercat
@johnyracercat Год назад
I talked to a guy age 66, that just had Part A and Part B, nothing else. I talked him into an Advantage Plan with MOOP protection. He was very skeptical asking for phone numbers for the company to call, verifying it wasn't a scam. 6 months later he visited the same store where we met the first time. He was in a wheelchair being pushed by a helper. He told me a month after I put him on his Advantage Plan, his back gave out. He ended up in the hospital, rehab, etc for 5 months and just got out. He was so happy with the coverage he received. He could not have been more thankful. Another lady I talked to had 300k in medical bills covered. I'm not going to say which company is "the best", but look for the one that has the largest Network of doctors and the highest Star Ratings.
@mikegemmati8658
@mikegemmati8658 Год назад
Plan A (hospitalization)is what came out of your paychecks all those years . Plan B ,about ($165 mth) comes out of your SS for doctor visits etc.
@Savannah-ed4rv
@Savannah-ed4rv Год назад
I may have messed up at did you talk about the high-deductible G plan? If not maybe you can give your opinion on that sometime soon
@markwerner8307
@markwerner8307 Год назад
thanks tim good video about retire this year
@otispage5746
@otispage5746 Год назад
Insurance agents make more commissions on Advantage plans.
@rich100211
@rich100211 Год назад
That is true so it tells you the plans they will push more. The test of a really honest agent is one who encourages original Medicare.
@reskridge
@reskridge Год назад
I am currently getting my Healthcare 100% from the VA including my drug prescriptions. How does Medicare cone into play?
@jimm6339
@jimm6339 Год назад
Hey Tim a nitnoid comment. I have noticed a few of your videos have the audio only available on the right audio channel and not on both ear buds.
@chuckmetzger893
@chuckmetzger893 Год назад
I thought it was just me😊
@carolinegalliher5229
@carolinegalliher5229 Год назад
Advantage plans do have PPO plans, and some plans have out of pocket as low as $3,000.00.
@sooner_born2256
@sooner_born2256 Год назад
Plan N here, $95/mo with Mutual of Omaha here in Oklahoma. The company you buy from does matter in terms of their track record on price increases and their likelyhood for sticking in the medigap market. Some companies try it and quit a few years later. Even though healthy at 65 I don't like a lot of out of pocket costs when something happens as per the "Advantage" plan which can hit you for up to $8k a year should something go south on you, or even more if you go out of network. Plus, if you travel and get sick or decide to travel for better care you're covered. G and N is a pure cost comparison, with a variable of how many times you are likely to see a doctor. I figured 4-5 times a year max and N was cheaper at that rate. Don't be afraid to use a broker, the insurance companies pay them. Just be sure it's someone who leans to original medicare + supplement or at least isn't out for the bigger commission they get with Advantage Plans. You've done a nice job researching, don't you agree that for a lot of people it's too mind boggling though?
@tioswift3676
@tioswift3676 Год назад
You could have got a G for not much more, and eliminate the copays
@deborahilyia1125
@deborahilyia1125 Год назад
You are way ahead of the curve! You live within your means! I waited until I was 70 years old and the difference is 1200 dollars a month more! Everyone is different!
@alicesais770
@alicesais770 Год назад
I stayed at my job till I was 68, I always wanted to stay till I was 70 yrs old, but they got me mad and I said why am I putting up with this crap and retired, best decision. Because I stayed I received about $300 mo more which helps pay my health insurance and believe me that helps and I don’t need to work anymore.
@wingwalker27
@wingwalker27 Год назад
That's a lot of money to me.
@wingwalker27
@wingwalker27 Год назад
@@jc10907Sealy So true. to me it all comes down to how much I need per month. While I'm still working now, I don't have to worry. The goal is to set myself up to have enough money per month to not have to worry when I retire.
@pinschrunner
@pinschrunner Год назад
Consider dropping Part D premiums and use drug discount cards. If they aren't covering what you take anyway, why do it? If Part D prices are higher than discount cards, you win. And no premiums.
@dougmorris9317
@dougmorris9317 Год назад
Thanks Tim! I still have a couple years before I'm eligible for Medicare, but I've watched a hundred of these types of videos in preparation and YOURS was the most straightforward and made the best sense! You also got some great commenters here, its been really helpful! 🙂🙂🙂👍👍👍👍
@paulm.7422
@paulm.7422 Год назад
I have a Plan N and unless you are always at your doctor's office, Plan N is better than Plan G. The premiums are lower and the pool of insured in N is generally healthier, than in G ... mostly because G is usually the guaranteed-issue Medigap plan, so the people are less-healthy, so premiums rise accordingly. Plan N does not cover Excess Charges, but those are actually quite rare.
@furryplantsandcoins9070
@furryplantsandcoins9070 Год назад
And if you're low income and on Social Security you may be eligible for Medicaid. Which is through Job and Family. Some people could be qualifying for food stamps along with that. Please check with your local job and family. Because if your income is not high enough you are eligible for some of those extra programs.
@jakemanchester5139
@jakemanchester5139 Год назад
Only four states (CT, MA, ME, NY) require either continuous or annual guaranteed issue protections for Medigap for all beneficiaries in traditional Medicare ages 65 and older, regardless of medical history. Guaranteed issue protections prohibit insurers from denying a Medigap policy to eligible applicants, including people with pre-existing conditions, such as diabetes and heart disease.
@happyhomemaker3912
@happyhomemaker3912 Год назад
Great info TIM!! We have the G plan as I mentioned under another video..husband was in CCU also he had to be air flighted to another city but a total of 21/2 months and other than drugs we didn’t have to pay a penny
@larkc7677
@larkc7677 Год назад
Great video - many people don’t realize that Medicare Advantage plans are managed care. My husband had bladder cancer with numerous hospitalizations and complications. With original Medicare, we had no issues with billing or having to get pre-authorizations from an insurance company.
@AlejoHausner
@AlejoHausner Год назад
Try dropping liquid vitamin D into your eyes for glaucoma. See the book: “Vitamin D3 High Dosage; The Alternative to the Previous Therapy of Glaucoma.” Written by Dr Schelle; his first language isn’t English but the advice is good!
@cmbooks2000
@cmbooks2000 Год назад
I only have A&B. The gap plans cost $145 to $300 Every Month which is much more than I spend out of pocket. My 20% is about sixteen dollars for doctor visits and $4 to $25 for prescriptions. And I don't go to doctors or get prescriptions but a few times a year. $300 a month is a lot when you are on a fixed income, it's a lot, no matter what your income. I don't have Part D I use Goodrx. The 300 dollar eyedrops are 20 bucks or less on Goodrx. These insurance companies have tons of money to pay has been actors because insurance companies are subsidized by the government. You find out about the fine print when you file a claim.
@cmbooks2000
@cmbooks2000 Год назад
@@yeahright532 correct. But it's still less than 2 to 300 a month when my out of pocket is zero most months.
@g0989
@g0989 Год назад
You might consider a High-Deductible G Plan. They are often about $50 or less per month, and Put an annual cap on your out of pocket costs. Otherwise, same benefits as regular G. It's best to get on a Medigap plan while you are still healthy. Think of High Deductible as catastrophic coverage. 20% copays with no cap could get very expensive down the road, if you develop serious health problems down the road. Unfortunately, many agents won't volunteer information on High-Heductible plans, due to low commissions.
@cmbooks2000
@cmbooks2000 Год назад
@@g0989 I really appreciate this information and I will check it out
@rhondacarlson5088
@rhondacarlson5088 Год назад
I don't have sound. Do on ads. ????
@nancylyon-gray3499
@nancylyon-gray3499 Год назад
Thumbs up and the like button smashed. You are awesome!
@karengrammond8338
@karengrammond8338 Год назад
I was a little hesitant about listening to this video, because you are from Florida. I watched it and was pleasantly surprised that your information was presented. accurately. I am retired in California, and I loved your description of the Advantage Plan commercials. Keep up the good work enlightening people on the choices available to them.
@bobdrawbaugh4207
@bobdrawbaugh4207 Год назад
What wrong with Florida?
@UncleJam5624
@UncleJam5624 Год назад
I work at a Health System, they cancelled their Medical Advantage program because of a lack of revenue this was 6 or 7 years ago.
@pamettmayer2391
@pamettmayer2391 Год назад
Do you know what Irmaa 2023 is ? I was shocked?
@tacmason
@tacmason Год назад
Many very good points Tim - thanks !
@cggtrzWI
@cggtrzWI Год назад
Informative👍this video gave me more clarity not to switch to the Advantage plan. Thanks and stay well!
@alicesais770
@alicesais770 Год назад
@@yeahright532yes, as long as you have no major problems.
@alvree01
@alvree01 Год назад
In total agreement especially if you have ongoing medical conditions. I have the supplemental G plan and pay a fairly reasonable premium each month. But that’s it. I have had gall bladder surgery and other medical procedures and have not had any out-of-pocket costs except the annual deductible.
@gsp49
@gsp49 Год назад
Consumer advocate Clark Howard of WSB radio Atlanta says if it says ADVANTAGE in the title of the plan, chances are, it's to your DIS-ADVANTAGE. Hearing that saved me a lot of time reading junk mail.
@pauljohnson1885
@pauljohnson1885 Год назад
The govt is taking Advantage of you😂
@deandigiacomo2010
@deandigiacomo2010 Год назад
👍
@simplelife3301
@simplelife3301 Год назад
Good content Tim, you are 2 weeks older than me! The Advantage might be a cheap backup for guys who served in the military and have VA medical. I recently talked with a 79 year old man who slipped and fell on his shoulder. He needed medical attention for his shoulder. Went to his local Mayo clinic in his area using his Advantage plan, they sent him home with his arm in a sling and told him to come back in a month. He was in lots of pain and ended up using his VA medical and received the required surgery necessary to repair his shoulder. That story alone, along with other stories I have heard, make it a no brainer for me to go with original Medicare and a supplement once I quit working. The Advantage plan does have its place and is better than nothing. My .02.
@vincentjames1643
@vincentjames1643 Год назад
Excellent advice Tim you're right over the target. 50% of all medical bankruptcies are people that have insurance. It's all those copay's and items that mysteriously are not covered that take their toll. The medical industry and insurance companies are all for profit businesses they have to minimize their payouts and maximize their cash inflows to appease their stockholders that's just how it works unfortunately in America. It's good to see your RU-vid channel doing well. Godspeed my friend!
@marcfontana1454
@marcfontana1454 Год назад
Why do you suppose a G supplement plan cost more where you live? I'm in the SF bay area in California and my G plan is $139/mo (I'm 67). Do you have to get a local G plan ? Thank You for sharing what you learn .
@todddunn945
@todddunn945 Год назад
@@marcfontana1454 G plans have the same coverage every where, but the pricing is regional based on where you live. You have to buy a plan in the area that you live in. Supplement plan pricing is state regulated and a big factor is how many people are in the plan in your premium rating area. Plans in low population areas tend to be more expensive than in population centers. Another factor is the cost of medical care in the rating area. For example Medicare pays more for treatment at critical access hospitals (which are generally smaller rural hospitals) than at regular hospitals. So if your rating area is rural and served by critical access hospitals, medicare's costs for treatment may be higher than in a city. Since the supplement pays the 20% Medicare doesn't pay that means the supplement pays more too and will tend to have higher premiums in the rural area to offset the higher costs.
@edpopplewell9838
@edpopplewell9838 Год назад
Can you tell me how much it cost for your Mobile home that's what you have on wheels, What does that cost you a month, I was thinking about doing that Type of Is living
@deborahilyia1125
@deborahilyia1125 Год назад
The plan that says I can go anywhere in the country and gives helicopter service if the best doctor or facility is in another state, that is what I got! Unfortunately I found out when I reviewed my plan it is no longer available to the Ifpublic BUT I am grandfathered into the original contract!
@N4UPD
@N4UPD Год назад
The guy I saw this information from was Christopher Westfall I believe.
@randallschroederrandy2303
@randallschroederrandy2303 Год назад
Christopher Westfalls Senior Savings Network is the place to get information
@Kenneth6543
@Kenneth6543 Год назад
Tim I think this was one of your most informative videos. Ive watched this one 3 times. Will be getting on Medicare next month. Thank you my friend.
@mikejonline
@mikejonline Год назад
Any time the government wants you to get out of their plan and go through insurance companies, it's a bad deal for you and a good deal the government.
@JS-do7ux
@JS-do7ux Год назад
This is why America needs socialized health care
@oldgeek239
@oldgeek239 Год назад
Here's an viewpoint from someone using the advantage plan. In my 67 years I never had any health issues until last year. Fortunately I got a United Health Advantage plan when I turned 65. Last year ran up over a $1mil in medical bills, my total out of pocket was about $1500. I'm in SW Florida and had no issue finding doctors, specialty or otherwise. Funny you mentioned a cortisone shot, I get them every 3 months, just had one last week, never had an issue, jut pay the $20 copay. Also noticed this year they made alot more drugs zero cost. The companies that push this stuff on TV seem sketchy, but sticking with a larger insurance company takes some of that risk out. I have no complaints so far. Keep up the content...
@SarasotaTim
@SarasotaTim Год назад
That’s awesome. I’ve always mention it works for some people. I’m very happy that your situation turned out good. Thanks for taking the time to leave your comment.😎
@planetlightforce
@planetlightforce Год назад
Tim we are in our late 50’s and the information you provide is so valuable. Keep crushing it brother
@Ventura2FloridaGulf
@Ventura2FloridaGulf Год назад
This is why i follow you! Medicare plans with your personal opinions / recs is what i needed to hear!
@giacomoliga
@giacomoliga Год назад
good info Tim
@pinschrunner
@pinschrunner Год назад
If your health is great, I have a friend who does Medicare Advantage, goes once per year for a free annual checkup. She does free blood work. She gets most all of her Medicare premium back every month and gets a pharmacy or grocery card for free. She doesn't take any pokes in the arm and is healthy.
@deborahk7667
@deborahk7667 Год назад
Thanks again Tim for the detail and research you’re doing!!!!!
@bradcooke5383
@bradcooke5383 Год назад
Is the sound off?
@ga6589
@ga6589 Год назад
When I became eligible for Medicare and was looking for a supplement plan, the agents I spoke to were all pushing Advantage plans. I thought this was odd, as I knew about Medigap options. Anyway, I ended up delving into it myself and came to the conclusion that the HD plan F (now HD plan G) made the most sense. It's very affordable and gives me piece of mind. Some providers in our area have actually stopped accepting certain MA plans. My husband is a cancer patient at Mayo Clinic and has plan G. That was a no-brainer!
@freedomspromise8519
@freedomspromise8519 Год назад
Is all of this intentionally confusing?
@garyscott5944
@garyscott5944 Год назад
When I turned 65 a few years ago, I had insurance people at my door trying to sign me up for traditional medicare and telling me to never sign up for medicare advantage. I did my own research and went with medicare advantage and so did my wife. We are both happy with our decision and our doctor. The gym membership through Silver Sneakers is a real plus for us, as we can use any gym in the network, which we do several times a week. My wife did go into the hospital with a serious sepsis infection a few years ago and the bill was over 65K. Our out of pocket was about $1,500 or so if I remember correctly. I had an injury when we were out of town and I went to an emergency medical center and the bill was about $2,300, I paid $150 as a copay. We use the dental and vision benefits which helps as well as getting $60 per month for OTC items. We are both in very good health, so this has worked well for us and we have not seen the downside yet.
@tobiaskevorkazito4072
@tobiaskevorkazito4072 Год назад
Luv it 🙏🌸
@robertpatti3138
@robertpatti3138 Год назад
Hi Tim, good info. I pay $139 a month here in California for the gap ins. Works perfect with the standard Medicare Ins.
@rogercvc6768
@rogercvc6768 Год назад
The only advantage is to the seller of the plan. Note the advantage plans get massive advertising compared to the medigap plans.
@bobl9949
@bobl9949 Год назад
What do you think of AARP? Is it really worth joining as i hear about pros and cons.
@KaayJaay
@KaayJaay Год назад
Crush that free Panera Bread coffee ☕️
@peardisplay
@peardisplay Год назад
tim glad you corrected ur bad advise. on go advantage plan. I thought it was bad advise. also saying only the rich should not take ss at 62 is a over generalized statement that a working class dog like me that saved for a rainy day and drank cheap beer for 40 years may have better options for our surviving brides.
@charlesmunden6751
@charlesmunden6751 Год назад
The year is 6 months before and 6 months after your 65th birthday.
@vincentslusser9205
@vincentslusser9205 Год назад
Totally glad you are giving a great summary of the plans. Appreciate you Tim. Keep on Krushing it 😊
@janisvahanian1911
@janisvahanian1911 Год назад
Tim, there are no words to tell you how grateful I am for all you’ve taught me. I think you from the very bottom of my heart. I was hoping to see that link that I could buy you a cup of coffee but it’s not here like it was in another video of yours. How do I make that happen?
@fredguntern.e.4185
@fredguntern.e.4185 Год назад
Thanks for the warning about the advantage plan scam. Sadly, even AARP has turned on us with a plan. Someone is offering a free dinner next week to get me interested in one.
@nancyoffenhiser4916
@nancyoffenhiser4916 Год назад
Great video Tim! My advice to everybody who's approaching 65 go see a S.H.I.P COUNSELOR! You can find out through the hospital or senior center who they are. There is no charge for their service and they will help you make the right decision. I have to have a corneal transplant so I'm getting the best care plan I possibly can when I sign up in August. It is not one of those come ons where you get a dinner and then they explain to you about policies. This is just a social worker. All they do is help you make the best decision you can for your Medicare.
@Kenneth6543
@Kenneth6543 Год назад
Thanks!
@Qwazier3
@Qwazier3 Год назад
Was reading my mom's medicare insurance book. So so so confusing with all the "if your situation is this but if you're doing this you get" scenarios in it. I gave up trying to understand it. Shouldn't be that confusing.
@RonMac08
@RonMac08 Год назад
Advantage plans are for two types of people. The ones who can't afford $100 to $200 a month, and veterans who get 100% of their healthcare through the VA, otherwise stay away. I have plan N for less than $100 a month but only see my doctor 1 time a year. My regular doctor is through the VA. I live in NC and use an agent in SC.
@waynejh
@waynejh Год назад
Photo bombed by a lizard! 😊 But, GREAT video! Thanks!
@user-qi1vc5vd6h
@user-qi1vc5vd6h Год назад
No sound
@LeoCloutier
@LeoCloutier Год назад
I appreciate Tim trying to educate seniors about Medicare options, but PLEASE talk to a qualified insurance broker who specializes in Medicare plans and can accurately provide information about your options. I did that when I turned 65 and I couldn't be happier with the plans and information that was provided to me. Brokers like Stephanie Abt or Christopher Westfall, who both produce great RU-vid videos about your options, do not charge a dime to get you placed in a plan that best suits your needs. As much as I appreciate Tim, the problem with a situation like this is that SOME of the information he provides is inaccurate or speculative. His heart is in the right place, but if you want accurate data with detailed information, do yourself a favor and call a broker you can trust. And in full disclosure, I do not work in the insurance business nor do I benefit at all from you using a Medicare broker. The essence of what Tim says is true. Although Advantage plans sound economically and medically workable, they are very limited if you struggle with your health, and though you may be healthy TODAY, this can all change overnight.
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