Meet The GODFATHER of Trap Music (he's actually a Christian...) 

Should christians work with secular artists? 🤔

we need a hundred more lecrae’s in this industry. Music is darker than ever . Great work with this podcast lecrae

This man is the reason my ear drums hurt till this day ! 😂

Every church kid who listens to hip hop needs this interview. Well done 🫡

Saturday is the Anniversary of that the trap say amen

Brothers Zaytoven you should never ever try to please people! You should Always Pleased God my brother!

I pray Zay goes straight Christ with it and I love knowing he is a Christian so dope so exciting he is so talented.....the industry is hurting allot of us though man me as an example...I smoked weed when I was only 11 I wanted to be like the artist i saw....this is reality it went from smoking to being apart of street culture as a whole and every part of that....I think we know truth we do need mercy but we know whats right and wrong no one in this comment section has to answer if christians should work with secular artist...we know what we can be a part of and what we cant....we can walk amongst sinners and be friends all day....are we hurting people in doing that is where you get your answer....God bless...message is everything...you can spread the word to a sinner love sinners be koo with them but when you associate things you do with their sinful work there is a complex that i think a person as a Christian should stay away from....if the song aint spreading evil its koo....if it is why are you on it......we have mercy we should not always be forcing it though...I will tune into the interview maybe I can be educated by you two though this is love I promise...the Perry interviews were fire to 2 Corinthians 6:14 Verse Concepts Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? 1 Corinthians 15:33 King James Version Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.

Let the trap say amen is a fire album🔥 my favorite song on the album is can’t block it

READY FOR THIS ONE 🔥🔥

Great interview. I have met both of these guys and good people is what I got from meeting them.

Heeey Crae, I don’t know if you’ll see this comment but I would love to see a podcast with the one and only “GAWVI”, it would be great to see you two together again 🫡

Great conversation! Well rounded perspective 🙌🏾✌🏾🎯

I love this one! What a great interview, what a blessed testimony! His walk is so commendable…praise God!

Lecrae salute brother zay salute to you also brother this was a great conversation with great energies fasho ✊👍💎

FIREEEEE episode. Love hearing Zay’s experience. Very unique backstory and God’s hand is definitely on his life. Good stuff Crae.

Y’all joint album really kick started my walk with Christ! Love you Guys man 🖤🙏🏽

Been waiting 😭😭

Words are really important and every song is a form of worship, it includes atmosphere. No grey. It is a process tho and we can’t do it in our own strength 🙏🏾

I love this one! What a great interview, what a blessed testimony!

This so awesome! Lots of life principles presented! Thanks and God bless you!!!

ZayToven is probably one of the most even keeled people in the industry …hes always the same way in just about every interview or studio session….to be in a industry thats literally built to influence and not let it change him speaks volumes to how he was raised …dope interview!

I still remember “Holy Water” from Lecrae and Zaytoven when it first released… Automatic banger. 💪🔥

Both you and Zay are real inspirations and a breath of fresh air in the music industry fr

What a cool dude. Praise God fam. Preciate this sit down.

Enjoyed watching this , great convo

This was a great interview!

I was a Gucci Mane fan back in 2006 wit so icy when everybody was a Young Jeezy fan I was rocking wit Gucci , PeeWee Longway, Young Dolph when I was in the world.

Wooooowwww just wooww, i feelt this interview‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥🔥

Not a worship leader of you're producing death culture rap

Finally found one of your producers bring more cause everytime I listen to your music I be like who the hack is behind all that creativity!

This is what I needed!🙏🏻❤️

Keep it up Lecrae💫

Fantastic interview! Wow.

Gotta level up with that 2nd installment for sure 🤐😂. Great conversation!

We turnt🔥🔥🔥

Great convo with Zay 🔥🔥

This is a good interview Lecrae. Very transparent

Can't wait

Great freaking interview on so many levels!!

Loved this one. I've been a fan of you two for several years now. My favorite song from Let the Trap Say Amen is By Chance, followed closely by Can't Block It 🔥🙏

Unbelievably helpful interview for me Lecrae, thank you so much for doing this

Bro this was a dope interview!! 🔥It shows how God’s plan is not our plan because it’s about His purpose for our lives!! 🙌🏽 Well done!! ❤️🔥💯

Let The Trap Say Amen was my favorite project from Lecrae when I heard it 🙏

You a good interviewer. Great sitting king🙏🏽

Wow 😲😳 i have not only enjoyed it but I have also learnt alot👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Favorite episode! 😍

It’s sooo interesting to hear this interview! I’ve ALWAYS been in the church and loved the Lord. But when I moved to the south from Washington State , I fell in love with trap music. Gucci, Migos, Dolph .. not knowing that all have Zay in common! Which makes since because I’m a church singer too and his sound is churchy. It’s wild how it comes together. I’m thankful to not be on trap music like that anymore lol but I see why I was loving it at one point.

Used to see Zaytoven every time I went to get a haircut from my barber who was cool with Zay. Zaytoven is super Uber down to earth. When he means the cars/material things don’t really phase him, he’s telling the truth. I was not shocked that he did music with Lecrae and 1K Phew and other sacred hip hop artists.

Let The Trap Say Amen 2 Is Coming! I’m Excited Lecrae X Zaytoven

Best Duo ever Zay n Lecrae

I would have never know Zaytoven was a Christian ! Great pod🤝🏽

i believe this interview was for me. i’m an artist myself w a “secular” background in underground rap, and i’ve always felt obligated to explain myself, and the reasons why i might work w someone who other christians might have a problem w. when zay was speaking about his pastors tellin him “you dont have to explain anything” it hit me. thank you Crae and Zaytoven ‼️

I remember zay in church playing the organ and piano in the west end

Love you Lecrae from South Africa. Make The Trap Say Amen is my favourite album. I love listening to the demo version of some of those songs as well. God bless.

As a Christian guy in the rural Midwest who’s always enjoyed Lecrae’s music and Christian rap, this podcast has been so educational. Really enjoying listening and learning about a world I’m completely oblivious to! I’m working with Amish out here and listening to lecrae talk about the hood… keeps it interesting for sure! 😅

I was at a church conference called beyond the edge the 21st and Lecrae got the chance to preform there would like to just say it was amazing ❤

Im all for a Let the Trap Say Amen 2 🙏🏾🔥🔥

Great interview. Can you get George janko, or maybe like ruslan on your podcast? I feel like you and ruslan sitting down and really getting at it would be amazing like This one.

Love them both‼️ Grown, present Men! 🙏🏿

L at this moment you have caught my attention. Praying you make this a live zoom Q and A.

You guys really need to drop "Let The Trap Say Amen Pt.2" pronto!

What a humble man! God puts us in interesting places.

This was 🔥... Please do an interview with Symbolyc One aka S1. One of the dopest producer as well.

The realness nothing fake about y'all💯 y'all understand what it means when you say you're a Christian and you're living the Life

Gift come without repentance. Man seem talented no doubt. End of the day, music is dark, no light in it. Praying that he come bk to the light. Profit a man gain whole world n lose its soul!!

Edifying interview! Zay has a similar testimony to Thomas Dorsey with how Dorsey got on by working with Ma Rainey then moved on to what we know Dorsey for.

Needed this! I have a vault of secular music and it slaps but I also have a vault of Christian music, also slaps.

Always been a fan of Zay as a man and producer. We share the same name (Xavier)! His dad is cool too. Met him 9 years ago while at a VA appointment.

Led the Trap 2 say Amen! 🔥 🔥 🔥

Zaytoven is telling truth when he worked with artists before they hit. I came to GA in ‘05 and used to get my haircut at the barbershop Zay worked at. Gucci hit it big with The State Vs. Radrick Davis and he continued to use Zaytoven. Even then, Zay would still stop by the barbershop with no security in sight. Real dude. Back then, every trap record had Zaytoven on it. He is the Godfather of Trap Music alongside T.I. And Gucci Mane.

Lecrae, you as a rapper, and that being your craft it makes sense to some extent that you would listen rappers of all kinds for the skill of rapping and musical composition. But would you say maybe a regular joe that's not a rapper or producer should probably not listen to rap about drugs and sex and violence all day long? It helps You hone your craft, but as a Christian maybe the average person should steer clear of filling their mind and spirit with that and just excusing it with "well I was just jamming out, I wasn't really listening to the words" Cuz what happens when the words are demonic, or a Wiccan ritual chant, or slander against God by a staunch atheist, would it still be OK to listen to just cuz you like the vibe? I think the words matter and if they're not in line with the Bible maybe it's actually the more Christian thing to do in staying away from that. Just some questions for deeper conversation and soul-searching. Keep doing your thing man

Zaytoven 🔥🙌🏽🙌🏽been hip to the faith man since Gucci movie

A man of God who…DOESN NOT drink. DOES NOT smoke. A man of ONE WIFE. Honors his mother and father. Gives of his talents to glorify God. 😊😊😊That’s what’s up. 👏🏾I mess with Zay. I first heard of him through Jermaine DuPree’s “Rap Game” show. To see him on Lecrae is 🔥. To the ones on here in the comments hatn’ and quoting scripture out of context on here, would be singing a COMPLETELY different tune on here if their life were publicly put underneath a microscope. ALL of us who claim Jesus as our personal Lord and savior are only righteous because HE(Jesus) is righteous. I don’t see none of y’all quitting your jobs because your bosses and employees are unbelievers. Nor are any of you without sin. Stop…it’s hypocritical of y’all to do that. I TRULY believe and have come to the conclusion that everybody is not meant to confine their gifts and talents exclusively to the church. He’s reached people that your pastor could NEVA reach. Love it! 🥰😎 Blessings to you and your family Zay, keep doing whatever God leads you to do.🙏🏽💪🏾🙌🏾

Love and respect from Africa "sudan 🇸🇩"

Respect

Album, Album!!!!

If The Church Doesn't Need To Hear What You're Producing For Those Secular Artist, Then Why Do It In The First Place? Those Pastors Who Told You That You Don't Have To Explain Yourself Are Enablers And Should Be Ashamed Of Themselves.

Zaytoven dont need no commercial !

When Zaytoven say the anointing was on the house that lets you know who was in control when the Lord want to do something can't nobody stop it, Lecrae I don't have a problem with Christian rappers working with circular artists long as they don't cross the line

Would have loved to hear his actual conversion story. I heard a lot of religious experience that he grew up with…

Aye yall need some snacks down there😂😂😂❤

This was interesting.

Crae sounded like Bill Cosby when he said "I got this jewelry fuh sale" 😅

Yes sirrrrrr 🔥

I wouldn't take the title "Godfather of Trap" as a badge of honor

Bringing let the trap say amen vibes🚀

I've seen him in movies... Good Actor didn't even know he was a rapper

We need a collab album Zaytoven, Lecrae, 1kPhew,

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

I’m a military kid born in Frankfurt too haha. Just spent 4 years over there as a military wife. I’m always happy to find other military kids in the “public” space because we’re so hidden in society lol

Bro used to be my barber. Just a really good, down-to-earth dude ✊🏾

Why the sunglasses indoors for the podcast tho? What makes these dudes hid behind sunglasses once they get the bag?

Some artists sold their souls to Luficer just to get Fame and money when they signed to a Record Label

The creator of Zay 808🙏🏽🔥💯

27:31 True game right here.

@Lecrae, As a Christian and black man I say no to collabs with the ungodly. I just checked out Big Krit’s latest song and he definitely isn’t rapping something that edifies God or the body. When I first heard of Ty$ because of your collab I went and searched him on RU-vid. I had to click off immediately because of the images. Just think of all the Christians that do the same but stay over there in that world. I work with the unsaved but it isn’t to further satan’s kingdom. Why CHH is a sensitive topic and dear to me is because it was one of the things that pulled me out of the world so in a sense I feel I have to defend it. I got saved at 15. From 16-20 I backslid. You know what I was listening to? 36 Mafia, Project Pat, Skinny Pimp, Playa Fly, MJG & 8 Ball. My wife introduced me to Cross Movement, Da Truth, and Flame as I’m making my way back to Christ. Never looked back. Then I was hooked to Lecrae’s early stuff. I’m from the hood and streets. Grew up with the vice lords and moe’s. Sold weed, partied, fornicated, was on much wickedness. Music was a stronghold and it provoked me to do the actions I was doing. Listen to what goes into the music aimed at our communities. Killing of our own people, miss use of our women (fornicating and not marrying), selling and doing drugs, leaving our children without fathers because either they are on the run from the law, hopping from woman to woman, running the streets, trapping, feeding generational curses, etc. Notice at 28:44 what Zay says about that environment. We know trap, gangster rap is sinister. Then we complain that this mess is going on in our communities?! Then we blame white people?! Smh. Naw, we need to look into the mirror and own our stuff. CRT has been taught to us as reverse phycology mentality and we believe we are victims because it’s been prophesied over us in school and music. Is there racism? Of course, but that won’t be my filter or my five black sons’ filter or lense they see opportunities through. When we do right by The Most High, we are blessed. A systemic system can’t dictate that to us what level of success or achievement can be when we walk in righteousness. God gives us favor just like Joseph, Daniel, David. The Bible says faith comes by hearing, and hearing of the Word of God. What do you think the non faith words do? Evil commutation corrupts good manners the Bible says. Look what it did when Moses sent the spies out to inherit the promised land. Only two had a good report but the others sowed wicked words. And look at the results of that. All the adults couldn’t enter the promised land besides Caleb and Joshua because they had a good report and told everyone God was able to deliver the land into their hands. And we think this is a light thing? Something has to change and y’all two brothers have been given the responsibility to be that change on that side. I can’t go and speak to some of those brothers in those circles. But when I see my guys from the block, guess what I’m doing? Preaching the gospel to them because I want to see them in the Kingdom of God, not in hell or the lake of fire. If it’s a decision about who will like me or pay me, we have to choose God every time and trust he will take care of our needs no matter what. Some things get activated by faith. Example, when Abraham went to slay Isaac, immediately the angels said stop. Some things will not produce until the faith is activated, no questions asked. Many fail the test because they won’t activate the faith in obedience. The real issue is how you meet people and judge people for where they are in the process. We don’t beat them down or put them in a hell none of us have keys to, but we also call people to true repentance. If we never tell them they have a soul problem, they will never repent and turn to Jesus to save them from an eternity separated from God. Jesus’ message was so strong he aimed it towards those who were supposed to be holy, the Pharisees, Sadducees, etc. and sinners alike. We have to be true to God while not compromising to be people pleasers or walk in the fear of man. Someone told us the good news of the gospel right? So we would be selfish not to share with the hood or whomever

Let The Trap Say Amen 2... I'm holding both of yalll accountable I hate when ppl do this n it never dropss it let's me down

I mess with Zay 😂 we just alike

I want it now 😭

I met him at Home Depot! So freaking nice and down to earth! He was with his daughter. I asked him for a picture and he said yes. He wrap his hand around my waist like most men do . He just crossed his hands in front of him. I respect that as a married woman, that’s an artist as well. I wish I could’ve rapped for him and got some beats 😂. But yeah. He was real nice!!