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Meeting James Angleton 

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@patduffynousdefions1909
@patduffynousdefions1909 2 года назад
You guys keep landing the best interviews. Nice work guys
@SincereSentinel
@SincereSentinel Год назад
Angleton struck fear in the hearts of the Soviets for decades. They revered him and respected him. His paranoia may have hurt us operationally at times. But by being so paranoid he kept several would-be Soviet double agents from ever having a way to penetrate The Company. I'm sure he wasn't the most pleasant guy to be around for long periods of time. But he knew more than anyone who ever worked for, or with him, will ever know in regards to the full scale of Soviet deception operations taking place during his tenure. His unwillingness to vocally share why he did many of the things he did left him highly misunderstood and mischaracterized by others around him. He rarely trusted anyone enough to tell them his actual reasoning behind doing certain things he did at his position. That has a negative impact at times, especially when working in a team setting. But I think he was ultimately more right than wrong, in regards to his overall decisions and policies. However almost no one else was privy to the raw Intel he was receiving, and he would rarely explain his rationale which in his mind meant the risk of compromising his most important information with colleagues (potential adversaries). So in turn, they conveniently shrugged him off as being near-delusional, difficult and rude. Regardless of what anyone thinks, the man was a Patriot, for better or worse. And deserves proper recognition for that. I'm 33 and have been reading/researching him since I was 11.
@MrTommyOMochain
@MrTommyOMochain Год назад
Angleton (along with Golitsyn, Miler, Rocca, Bagley, et al.) is one of my heroes, but unfortunately he was duped by a "probable" KGB mole in CIA's Office of Security by the name of Bruce Solie. Regarding Nosenko-clearing Solie, read John M. Newman's new book "Uncovering Popov's Mole," but disregard his ever-changing conclusion that some evil high-level military officers conspired to kill JFK because he refused to nuke Moscow and Havana in 1963.
@kxkxkxkx
@kxkxkxkx Год назад
@@MrTommyOMochain Newman is a dupe who totally misinterpreted almost every source he had 💯
@StellarFella
@StellarFella 5 месяцев назад
@@MrTommyOMochain - Kim Philby came to D.C. permanently in 1949. Angleton met with him every two weeks. Whoops!
@MrTommyOMochain
@MrTommyOMochain 5 месяцев назад
@@kxkxkxkx He finally got it right when he realized that it was Angleton's confidant, mentor and mole-hunting boss, Bruce Solie in the Office of Security, who had sent Oswald to Moscow in 1959 as an ostensible "dangle" in a planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's Mole" (Solie) in the wrong part of the CIA.
@MrTommyOMochain
@MrTommyOMochain 5 месяцев назад
@@StellarFella Angleton lacked confidence and required a father figure. Philby fulfilled that role, as did KGB "mole" Bruce Solie in the CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security after Philby was forced to return to London in 1951. John M. Newman shows in his book "Uncovering Popov's Mole" and on his website that Solie flew to Beirut, Lebanon, in early 1957, probably to learn from Philby how best to manipulate Angleton and thereby keep himself from being uncovered as "Popov's Mole."
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 2 года назад
The Soviets had multiple one-ups on the US way prior to all of this, even dating back to Czarist times with Okhrana’s technical intelligence/wire-tapping service on all the diplomatic cables, which the Bolsheviks inherited out of the same buildings in Moscow and Saint Petersburg that were taken over by the Cheka. That eventually became the NKVD and KGB. There were other internal security organizations as well that often get overlooked. As far as foreign intelligence goes prior to and during WWII, they had honey traps and compromises sleeping with US politicians, military officers, aerospace and banking businessmen, and media personalities. They wove into various organized crime networks, and placed multiple high-level moles inside the Manhattan Project. The Russian Ambassador’s wife actually purchased the local burger joint in Los Alamos under an intermediary, on top of the fact that she had helped several of those scientists escape from Europe and move to the US in the 1930s-early 1940s. Leo Szilard and other scientists were moles sending all of their funded TS research through a network back to the Soviet Union, which was used to accelerate the Russian development of their own atomic weapons as an existential imperative. The atomic bomb arms race was between the major industrial powers at the time, really started in England. At the end of the War, the NKVD had assets all throughout the 4 main nationality POW camps between the Brits, French, Russian, and US. The German intel staff who knew best placed themselves in US or French camps if they could, under assumed identities and bona fides they were accustomed to using during the course of their collection efforts before and during the war. NKVD’s strategy was to just go for the top Generals, then have them turn over their staff and field operatives. With the gallows at Nuremberg getting worked out regularly, these former officers and technicians had a lot of motive to play ball with the NKVD, even though they hated Russians. Post-War, the US Congress, WH, and DoD were having a serious discussion about forming a permanent National Foreign Intel service, with the biggest decision being whether to make it civilian or military-controlled. The OSS was disbanded technically, but a lot of the personnel were still in the Army, like Aaron Banks (founder of Army SF in the wake of Jedburg Teams). Allen Dulles and William Donovan wanted to protect the former German intelligence operatives because they were area authorities on Eastern Europe, already had vast networks and regional orientation, so when CIA was formed in 1947 as a civilian-controlled agency, they quietly brought those guys into the Agency, particularly as assets and officers working in Berlin. Many of them became officers in the Agency, and were working for the Soviets as moles. Some of them notified the Agency of the arrangement they had with NKVD, so counter-counter efforts were launched with varying results, but it always seemed as if they were reading the mail beforehand. Their biggest success was co-opting Mockingbird. Mockingbird was headed by Frank Weisner to counter the Soviet’s International Organization of Journalists (IOJ), which was winning the international propaganda war. The US wanted to fight better in that space, so Mockingbird was launched where journalists, newspapers, and radio networks would cooperate with the CIA in supporting planted pro-US stories as if they were their own. NKVD and KGB were tracking this program from the start with the moles, and inserted themselves into it so that the media would be fed more anti-US stories from the Mockingbird program from within CIA. This is how we got Walter Kronkite, Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw, Geraldo Rivera, and Anderson Cooper. So yeah, the people Angleton was chasing and trying to route-out from the Agency were very real, but there were so many of them that his efforts were futile and lashing-out. That’s what drove his paranoia, and understandably so once you see the scope of their mass-attack. Eventually, the Soviets had largely directed the recruitment of US military officers into the Agency, several of them becoming DCIs, the first-known being Admiral Stansfield Turner. If you read through the accounts of SOG in Vietnam, Plaster details the prior efforts of CIA Ground Branch personnel trying to infiltrate into the North. Almost every one of those teams had NVA waiting for them in their LZs. Son Tay Raid? Compromised from within CIA so that the US POWs were moved the day prior. Russia did not want the US to get a massive morale boost with such an operation. Throughout the CIA’s history, you find things like this, where everything is compromised before or shortly after it’s launched.
@michaelcarron3418
@michaelcarron3418 2 года назад
What is being done today to terminate such moles in the many Government Agencies? All so known as (A.K.A) THE SWAMP.
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 2 года назад
@@michaelcarron3418 The moles became the leadership generations ago. That was the whole point of the continual waves of Soviet mass infiltration. They built a template that other hostile/aggressive nations mimicked, like China, Iran, Pakistan, Saudis, Israelis, Palestinians, etc. All of those have their own levers of MICER (Money, Ideology, Coercion/Kompromat, Excitement, Revenge), so DC has become institutionally and functionally treasonous as the norm. You can verify this by perusing opensecrets and all the foreign investments that most career Congressmen have, as well as the various presidential family frontmen who sell access to the WH, US defense technology, or whatever the foreign nation needs. JFK was a young Naval Intelligence officer sleeping with Russian and other diplomats' honeypot wives, had to be sent as far away as possible to Panama as a PT Boat Captain because he wasn't a SWO. GW Bush was the only person in the US on record who couldn't remember where he was during JFK's assassination. JFK files declassified under Trump's orders revealed Bush was one of the CIA officers running operations with Cuban ex-pats, and was asked by Director Hoover to look into a possible Cuban connection. His response was that he asked around the Cubans, who hated Kennedy, but they said it wasn't them. Clintons used the Rose Law Firm associates as intermediaries to run classified information to Switzerland on a regular basis since the mid-1980s, one partner in particular. That was monitored by NSA, CIA, and DIA, and generated referrals to the FBI Director to investigate treason/espionage, which he let move forward. Clinton fired him July 19, 1993 (William Sessions) and the bagman's body was found the next day. His name was Vince Foster. The acting director helped bury the evidence, the Independent Counsel resigned along with some of his chief investigators, and handed it over to Kenneth Starr to steer the case away from all of that. One of the young staffers on the IC refused to let go of the Foster murder case, which inadvertently kept it open for other inquiries that eventually led to the Monica Lewinsky distraction 4 years later. That staffer's name was.....Brett Kavanaugh (currently a sitting Supreme Court Justice). Clintons received millions in foreign campaign contributions from China, called Chinagate. Bush family has been on Chinese payroll through front companies for decades. Neil Bush, of savings and loan scandal infamy, has been dealing with Chicoms, including using his defense holdings shell to transfer US advanced technology to China via his real estate ventures there. He was caught up in a Thai hooker trap a while ago just to make sure they could keep him on a leash, cost him his marriage though. Crickets in the DNC-allied media, which is interesting. Obamas were paid millions for the 2008 and 2012 campaigns via micro donations online, to wrestle it away from Hillary in '08, and Romney in 2012. Obama WH weaponized the IRS against conservative PACs in the 2012 election season. That's why nothing has happened to the political crime families and their generations of espionage and treason against the US. Foreign entities and cleptocrats have seized the reigns of power over the unconstitutional internal security apparatuses of the state, and turned them against any threats to their power.
@michaelcarron3418
@michaelcarron3418 2 года назад
@@LRRPFco52 If you know all this to be true, then you know this is all being monitored by them.
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 2 года назад
@@michaelcarron3418 It's worse than that even. You know who started Google? Sergei Brin and Eric Schmidt
@michaelcarron3418
@michaelcarron3418 2 года назад
@@LRRPFco52 Infestation of Commie moles.
@Billy14Bob
@Billy14Bob Год назад
That empty bookshelf speaks volumes
@j.johnson3520
@j.johnson3520 9 месяцев назад
No eyes on, perhaps?
@StellarFella
@StellarFella 5 месяцев назад
How? That space was in transition.
@MrTommyOMochain
@MrTommyOMochain 4 месяца назад
Is it yours?
@billoddy5637
@billoddy5637 8 месяцев назад
"How to comport yourself": it sounds like a humble servant paying tribute to his monarch.
@michaelcarron3418
@michaelcarron3418 2 года назад
When did Angleton come aboard the CIA? Was he an OSS OPERATOR? If so, what was his AO in Europe?
@SailfishSoundSystem
@SailfishSoundSystem 2 года назад
He was the equivalent of a general in the OSS and was in charge of all of Italy after the war. He kept the communists from winning elections and was a big part of Operation Gladio (stay behind units that would go into action if Italy and other countries fell behind the Iron Curtain).
@LaGrandeBayou
@LaGrandeBayou Год назад
Remember the CIA tk out General Patton in Italy and made it look like an accident! Our DS! Angleton would have been key in Patton's killing.
@kxkxkxkx
@kxkxkxkx 2 года назад
"I came to believe that the events that would lead to my own downfall at the CIA and the successful cover up of the Soviets involvement in the Kennedy murder were orchestrated by Philby" - Jim Angleton (Secret History of the CIA by J. Trento, pg 277)
@TheThepurpelstuff
@TheThepurpelstuff Год назад
Can someone please please summarize this story for me
@kxkxkxkx
@kxkxkxkx Год назад
@@TheThepurpelstuffbest summary is the book itself, much too complicated for a few lines on yt... Read Ion Pacepa and angleton's ghostwriter (Edward Jay Epstein) if you really want to understand 👍
@LaGrandeBayou
@LaGrandeBayou Год назад
"Can someone please please summarize this story for me" The kgb,the fbiANDtheCIA WEREALLstartedbyMOSSAD
@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye
@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye 4 месяца назад
@LaGrandeBayou how can that be since these organizations are older some way older than the country mossad is intelligence for…?🤷🏾
@michaelcarron3418
@michaelcarron3418 2 года назад
What information did Angleton have on the US Army Berlin Operations, were they compromised? Was Angleton Terminated?
@Corey-dy2cq
@Corey-dy2cq 5 месяцев назад
So you're saying she moved out? They don't say that about you......as far as you know.
@matthewsierleja2193
@matthewsierleja2193 2 года назад
speaking of the double fake.... either he was no expert or homeboy was on the take
@nicolem889
@nicolem889 Год назад
There’s layers to the CIA what this man experienced as counter intelligence prob wasn’t the full program.
@malcolmgarcia4181
@malcolmgarcia4181 2 года назад
I wonder if his friendship with Kim Philby permanently scarred Angleton’s judgment.
@kxkxkxkx
@kxkxkxkx 2 года назад
You need to realize that by "friendship" they are in fact referring to homosexual romance between Philby and Angleton 🤭 (per John Whitten in the Scelso deposition)
@StellarFella
@StellarFella 5 месяцев назад
Yes! It intensified his denials. In one interview after he retired, he claimed he had no regrets.
@johnned4848
@johnned4848 2 года назад
Looks great. Long been fascinated by Angleton
@jedgarren2901
@jedgarren2901 Месяц назад
Dulles made Angleton and KEPT him in power. Dulles knew that Angleton was bad news,Dulles used Angleton as misdirection for his own misdeeds
@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye
@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye 4 месяца назад
Perhaps this man is the mole… 🦉 I mean he does look like Ian McDirmid the Emperor 😂😂😂🛸
@MrBigdaddy2ya
@MrBigdaddy2ya 9 месяцев назад
Pretty sure Angleton was the mole if you judge his fruit.
@StellarFella
@StellarFella 5 месяцев назад
'... chasing phantoms ...' and meeting with Kim Philby every two weeks until he was discovered to be working for the KGB. Angleton = ideological paralysis.
@frankhinkle5772
@frankhinkle5772 2 года назад
Ouch. That is painful to listen to. Interesting interview.
@redhorse554det1
@redhorse554det1 2 года назад
guys listen to a replay,, olson voice is normal . both yours is way off.
@redhorse554det1
@redhorse554det1 2 года назад
dave , your bass is way off in your mic. ,
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