A scene from a great movie called "Man Without a Face" starring Mel Gibson. Mel teaches a kid latin and Shakespeare. In this scene he plays Shylock in William Shakespeare's "The Merchant of Venice."
wow. I don't remember seeing this film. Gibson did an amazingly wonderful job with that Shakespeare piece. ..sigh... what a great performer. So sad his talent was lost to us the past few years while he melted down and rebuilt. I'm happy to read he is working and seems happier lately.
This scene is very powerful because Mcleod is trying to teach Charles by using the merchant of venice 2 show the indifferences between people like Mcleod in the movie. Both charles and mcleod are outsiders in different ways in the film.
Humanity has no irony. It is complex. As Walt Whitman once quipped; "Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes."
Lol. Below is Shmuel Malkin pretending to be smart and yet he voted for the Democrats twice for "economic reasons". That's hilarious. I wonder if he voted for Bush twice as well. I only wish he would allow people to reply to his comments. I hope hes changed his mind. We all have made mistakes after all. I was briefly (very briefly) a fan of obama myself. Then he took time out of his presidential campaign to campaign for TARP. I got me an education then and kept going with it.
Shmuel Malkin Trump Bush Clinton Obama, The only difference is packaging. They all have the same ingredients. The same monetarist/keynesian economic policies. When Obama came into power he reinstated Ben Bernanke saying that no one could have done a better job. Did he campaign saying Bush couldn't have done a better job? No. But by saying Ben Bernanke couldn't have done any better he was essentially saying an Obama presidency in place of Bush's would have been the same. On foreign policy theyre all the same. Just bomb everywhere and train, fund and arm "moderate" terrorists. Aka mercenaries. My god even obamacare was largely modelled on romenycare and Romney said he liked much of obamacare and would keep it. So is there ever a choice? God no!
I supported the democrats in 2008 and 2012 for primarily economic reasons. As for the "race realists", I subscribed to some of their channels a year or so back, but I've since become sick of their monomaniacal obsession with IQ, and I don't think there's even a very clear definition of what the "white race" even is. I hope that clears some things up.
@dragszes You said that the Talmud calls Gentiles are like animals. The quote you gave me says that Gentiles don't keep Kosher. The quote you provided could very well apply to me because I don't keep Kosher. Therefore, according to your quote, I am unclean. You are exaggerating by saying this is like calling all non-Jews animals because that is not what is being said at all.
You've taken waaay too long to claim you were talking in context now. Shylock's self-justification is "Signior Antonio, many a time and oft..." and the vulgar elopement of his daughter to a greedy Christian wastrel. You've twisted this play to suit your anti-Semitic needs. Shylock's a persecuted, complex, human character whose revenge stems from personal experience, not race or religion. He's an unpleasant bigot, but no more than any other character. It's not about Jewish people lacking mercy!
I mistakenly thought I had posted the comment twice. If you bothered to look for once you could see that I reposted the comment word for word. It's the meaning of the speech within the actual context of the play, and it's essentially religious and not racial in character.
Shame you didn't cite academics on the Elizabethan interpretation at the start, when you just banged out a flat racist statement, eh? One moment you're a David-Duke-liking far-right yob, the next you're an Oxbridge don, too effete to suffer the vulgarity of the consequences.
You must be clairvoyant then. It seems you are able to blame me for the fact you wrote racist bile instead of cultured critique before we'd ever met. Your comment was voted down to the point it got automatically deleted by the RU-vid system. So it's not me being touchy. You did not intend your comment to be a nuanced analysis of art, you intended it to be an attack on all Jews. Now you are trying to squirm your way to the moral high ground. Forgive and forget, my arse.
Because you seemed more interested in my RU-vid history (Nothing says neo-nazi like Schoenberg and Paul Krugman.) and Wagnerian Onanism than the text, but it's never too late to for both of us to forget and forgive. It's the only way any positive change has ever been made. What do you think of Harold Bloom's interpretation?
We could always initiate a friendly discussion on the Elizabethan interpretation at any time rather than bring in the attitude of a misogynistic pub-brawler onto the internet. I will not "fight like a man.", but I'm open to a civil dispute over the meaning of the texts. Perhaps we could cite scholars on the topic.
"but no more than any other character." Besides wanting to cut a man's heart out? The play calls to attention the hypocrisy of the Christians, but it unambiguously portrays Shylock as avaricious and bloodthirsty, and his lack of mercy as a Jew is called into question by Portia. Does the old testament not teach an eye for an eye?
Well, that hair's completely split, Old Schop. Well done. Thanks for that. Obviously my lack of obsession regarding race failed me there. A religion that doesn't seek converts and has for millenia been socially excluded and treated like a 'race' by its neighbours is merely an ethnoreligious group, not a race. Gosh, how right you are. (How does that tribal God Jahweh identify his chosen people I wonder?) Anyway, the 'confirmation bias' query which you sidestepped like a Matador on cocaine???
Anyone that actually knew anything about Wagner would know that I was referring to the entirety of Der Ring des Nibelungen and not just Das Rheingold. I'm quite fond of Parsifal and Tristan und Isolde as well. I agree with Stephen Fry that it's not appropriate to portray Wagner as proto-Hitler. Wagner even expressed a disdain for the caste system in India.
It was a comment on The Merchant of Venice, which was written centuries before racial antisemitism existed. One of the major themes of the play is Shylock's lack of mercy because of his adherence to the "eye for an eye" mentality derived from the Torah. Despite the ambiguity of the work, this speech is Shylock's justification for the mutilation of a Christian.
Very conflicted feeling where. On the one hand a really good performance of this speech snd I'm also Australian so there's feelings of slight traces of loyalty to ones country men (half-sarcasticly). On the other hand, I know in real life he's an Amti-Semitic thug, so it's funny hearing him speak in defense of the Jewish people when I know what he thinks of them in real life.
agenttheater5 He's not an anti-semite, you can't work in Hollywood without Jewish friends, Richard Donner, one of his best friends is Jewish, as is Robert Downey jr., who has publicly defended him.
."You must be clairvoyant then." "Your comment was voted down to the point it got automatically deleted by the RU-vid system." Which is why the repost of the comment is still there?
I find nothing congenial about blunt, overt, sweeping racist comments. As for Creationists, don't be too smug, the political stuff you've ''liked'' is on their level of sophistication.
Here is a bible verse of Jesus talking to his followers that shows how evil Jesus is: Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple." Here is something from the old testament: Exodus 32:26-29 "then Moses stood in the entrance of the camp, and said, “Who ever is on the Lord’s side-come to me!” And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together to him. And he said to them, “Thus says the Lord God of Israel: ‘Let every man put his sword on his side, and go in and out from entrance to entrance throughout the camp, and let every man kill his brother, every man his companion, and every man his neighbor.’” So the sons of Levi did according to the word of Moses. And about three thousand men of the people fell that day. Then Moses said, “Consecrate yourselves today to the Lord, that He may bestow on you a blessing this day, for every man has opposed his son and his brother.”" Religion is a tool of government that was created to control the masses. It was created to make you betray your father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, and especially yourself.
Don't know. Lots of actors do Shakespeare with so much over acting, it's cringe and the message gets lost. "Just say it" is sometimes a good strategy. I thought this was a breath of fresh with its honesty. Not putting the actor in front of the message.
