MELEE WEAPON UPGRADES ARE USELESS! Here's why... 

Way too many low level players buy a giants sword, when their magical power is usually incredibly low. If that money was put into balancing their profile better, I think everyone would benefit

I was criminally offended when he completely ignored the Fel sword's actual purpose: BETTER DUNGEON HEALING It causes both of the healer's already solid abilities to be easier to use, and makes healing circle make any healer nigh-on unkillable in the right situation. This makes any decent tank-healer combo completely invincible against even Maxor's frenzy (No pre-wish) or Storm's giga lightning (assuming both have enough EHP)

Exactly the type of content I am looking for. someone who can do in depth testing for me so i dont have to waste coins on a better sword. thank you!

don't forget a 5 star livid dagger attack speed is buffed from 50% to 75% in dungeons

You can get the dragon fuse glove for no more than 1.5m by just crafting dragon boots (which ever one costs the least money) and sacrificing the boots at the altar then selling any other drop that isnt ritual residue. I know this because I've done this multiple times and it's very easy to do and saves a lot of money

The thing is the dragon fuse glove is that it takes up that slot which could have the gauntlet of contagon and with the implosion belt with that you do very good clears and 35% more damage to mobs around you and it costs 4m extra

*TLDR: Comparing weapons is more complicated than you think.* very nice video, just wanted to make a few quick comments because there are some things you seemed to miss, while yes aotd is very good, livid dagger is too, just not with the setup you where using it with. when used with a dps setup livid dagger will kill pretty much any mob really fast, faster than something like a shadow fury or even sometimes a giant sword, when paired with ferocity the attack speed from the livid dagger becomes far more impactful. just for a little suggestion, when comparing weapons it is a good idea to at least try to make a setup epitomized for each individual weapon. although with this you would also need to take into consideration the different playstyles that come with each weapon, for example with the livid dagger you could lean fully into the dps aspect and use a tiger pet and dirty reforge and put your talismans on bloody, or you could try to balance it so that you do a mix of dps and shd by going with a lion pet, suspicious reforge instead of tiger and dirty reforge, or someone could do what you did and simply not optimize their setup for the weapon they are using at all, and as you can see, that leads to very underwhelming results. Similarly when you where talking about the aotd you also failed to mention the fact that it can also function as a mage weapon as well as a mele weapon Another thing, with the gaints swords someone could instead of going with the standard shd setup one would normally use with giants sword, you could use somewhat of a hybrid dps/shd setup and use a lion/tiger pet with the sword on suspicious reforge and talismans on bloody. Final Note: this is not even taking into consideration things like stars, recoms, hot potato books, enchants/ultimate enchants, which would not only increase the damage but could also either increase or decrease the gap in damage/dps between weapons, this is also not taking into consideration things like armor and equipment. *TLDR: Comparing weapons is more complicated than you think.*

I noticed during the dps test comparison of the Livid dagger and the AOTD he seemed to be jerking his mouse with the Livid dagger in order to hit the target less instead of the optimal strategy of just sitting there and hitting the mob. If the rev can get inside of you like it usually does when you stand still all of your attacks become backstabs. Even without it if you are simply tracking the rev without backstabs then the livid dagger usually performs about 20-40% better depending on your setup.

Thanks this was very helpful. Could you do a tier list of the overall weapons and armour?

I personally went from aotd with the gauntlet, to livid dagger because I could switch out my equipment with the gauntlet of contagion. I could later sell the livid dagger when I wanted to get something better. But in terms of DPS the Livid dagger scales much better because of the attack speed. For things like starting the crimson Isle it helps quite a bit.

giants sword is the bare minimum for lcm in master mode, nothing else comes close until dark claymore, so while getting something like a giants sword might be really dumb for an early game/ mid game player, eventually it becomes needed for a certain class. granted once you get that far you should have a bit of money😅

What i don't like is u're using all the possible gear to upgrade the aotd, like superior armor, ender dragon, dragonfuse glove, but u don't do that on the other swords.

Doesn't wanna make the tests unfair by using the correct power stone for the weapon but makes it unfair by intentially reducing the amount of dmg a weapon can do by using the incorrect power stone wtf?

Having owned both a shadow fury and giant sword the damage increase from my ofa shadow fury to my gs(had standard enchs with som3 t6) wasn't really worth it tbh should have just spent the coins on my accessories

Probably the most helpful Hypixel Skyblock video i have Seen so far in terms of combat and weapons. Really appreciate your work, keep it up. :)

Having a livid dagger or shadow fury with a flower of truth is a great combo for dungeons, flower for room clear, and livid or fury for minis and bosses

Great content, very useful. Actually glad I looked up your channel and catch your streams.

Counter Point: Giant's Sword ability go BONK

Overall, i used most of the listed weapons. The Shadow Fury and The Giants Sword(and even the Warped AOTE) do benefit more from higher tier enchants(or OFA, if you hate yourself) and high magical power then all of the other weapons listed, hence they shouldn't be the main priority with weapon progression for earlier stages of the game and get much better the more advanced you are, but they quickly get replaced by something better. The Aotd is a great secondary weapon to the Juju shortbow in dungeons. Although i agree with the Ender Dragon Pet place in the progression because of its versatility (good ehp and damage for all classes), but the epic pet alone is hot garbage for 350mil, recommended to only go for the Tier boosted (even tho no shelmet is a pain). And also, Hyperion (or any other wither blade) before Terminator. Any wither blade is the best weapon in terms of versatility, best mage damage, very good melee damage. Unlike the Terminator, its damage is great inside and outside dungeons. Melee dps is around, if not better then, the damage of the Giants Sword. Its price is definitely something else, but in the end its worth it.

Hey PrehistoricSoldier :) It's Mace from that one Crystal Hollows lobby. I hope all is well. Thanks for the warp back into the server when I needed it. Hope to see you again in a lobby some day

Right Modern lemme point this out to you, At 0:30 when you pop up the cata requirement on screen why do you choose to show the Cata 19 on the right where the Shadow Fury is and Cata 14 where the GS is.

With the new berserker update, how would bouqeut of lies, bone reaver, and felthorn reaper preform? I currently use a bol, and its probably on par with spirit sceptre clearing (even better if you use young dragon) and does good dps when you left click and right click at the same time. I tested it against the felthorn reaper and giant's sword while killing an m3 guardian and the bol was the slowest, but not by much. Imo bol is very good and is cheaper than a sf.

Hey man, this helps to understand how weapon 'progression' when it comes to where I am right now, but could you do a video on accessories? Like how many there are/how to best get them? The only one that is currently like that is from another RU-vidr but is very outdated so I think you may be able to explain how different accessories can slowly add to your damage

What texture pack are you using in this video? I downloaded the one in your description but it doesn't look the same!

Reason for getting warped aotv: even tho it’s worse, If I rly just wanna annoy my friend’s I’ll recombinant my current heroic aotv, and then put warped on it purely for the different furfsky texture.

I think it's worth saying just in case, since you mentioned "if you craft everything yourself" when talking about Aspect of the Void. While AotV has no requirement to use it does however have a Enderman Slayer VI requirement to craft. So if you wanted to use one you'd have to buy it as AotV or you might end up with an AotE and a bunch of mats that you need to resell when you realize you cannot craft it.

Do you that going for a aotd and dragon fuesd glove will be worth as an ironman? If not what you think will be a good replacement?

Recently got the AOTD and grinded Crypt Ghouls to get xp to enchant the AOTD to the max, and now I don’t have to worry about getting another weapon when I can get the Dragonfuse glove

I LCM'ed with both OFA Shadow fury and OFA Giant's Sword, i can 100% ASSURE you that the Shadow fury is WAY better, not only the 170m (non clean) price difference but the damage was 122m (Shadow Fury) and 98m (Giant's Sword) , I tested them both in the same run , so i have the same blessings. My setup was maxed Ancient Storm (with slots unlocked , fumed, wisdom 5/legion 5, and recombed) with the Goggles too, and as a pets I used Wither skeleton and Ender dragon (epic).

hypixel skyblock is a game where if you want an item or its upgrade, you dont think about IF you want to buy them but rather WHEN you should buy them

I would really like to see a guide on increasing magic power efficiently. Also what is your opinion on warden helm for slayer, dungeons, ghosts?

crazy how a maxed livid dagger(not hypermaxed, just maxed) is worth about the same as an upgraded shadow fury yet it deals much more dps with most builds, and due to how attack speed works, with certain reforges and armor sets it deals slightly more dps than a decently upgraded giant's sword that costs 5x more coins

Hm it would be very hard to compair bc you need to inclode pets but the daedalus axe could be a a good candidat as well. Since the stats are okay (if you add the effect that it 2x the pet stats) and it has a lot of uses like beeing the best farming tool for mushrooms, max magic find, and 30 coints per kill. I think it doesnt even have a combat req. But im not sure. Yes it has some downsides like not beeing dungeonizable and you need to have a high taming level but still it is quite good and maybe overlooked.

If I already have a recombed 5 stars fabled Swarm 3 livid dagger should I change it? Btw I have money for a shadow fury, should I buy it?

now he gotta redo it with the bers update weapons

I've seen some people who like running dungeons very early on kind of neglect the talisman bag, because the stats you get from buying talismans are minimized compared to stats you get from other upgrades such as recombobulators due to them scaling with catacombs levels and stuff in dungeons, so that kind of justifies buying a Shadow Fury instead of sticking with AOTD while spending more on talismans

is pigman much worse than aspect of the dragon if used with superior? to me the increased def of pigman sounds pretty good and because of that i more or less maxed my pigman, but im now unsure if i should sell it and buy a fresh aotd and upgrade it. but the money i loose that i put in to upgrade my pigman would hurt much

How do you turn off the skull from the armor? (that your armor is full invisible) i love to play with hidden armor but i cant finde something to remove skull helmeds

I don't remember which series it was (Hardcore Ironman maybe), but Thirtyvirus proved Fel Sword is broken. At the time it didn't have a cata req if I remember correctly. It briefly spiked in price to like 2m, but then the admins added the cata req, and the Fel Sword fell back into irrelevance to most of the community.

Also i need to know is fel sword better than necromancer lord sword bc i play tank and necromancer lord sword gives defense and if fel sword does more dmg should i use it for clearing?

It’s always worth to get a Giant’s Sword when you drop it on your 50th S+ F6 run cause you’re RNG carried like me

Im just using an aurora staff what should i go for next? It does alot of damage in and outside of dungeons. For me i am using sighted piwer and i can do around 175k damage

great video but i think a ofa livid dagger would be a better option then going till f6 with a aotd

This guide is a bit weird for me at first bcuz every progression video I’ve seen so far starts out with aote, raiders axe or aotd then working towards getting livid dagger and shadow fury. But considering so many updates such as crimson isle with the equipments, the aotd with the right upgrades could literally be an endgame weapon . Upgrading from aotd to wither blades is pretty weird but regardless, absolutely love this video, sort of a up-to-date guide to increase your dmg as mid to late game player.

I think selling aotd and dragon fuse glove to buy a sf is better. It really depends on what you need. If you already bought a ton of talismans and the rest are very expensive then buy SF, if you dont have any talismans get those. Since on your profile your aotd did around 68k damage and sf did 91k. But on my profile all the weapons I have tested have no enchants but have 5 stars, fuming potato books, fragged for SF and aotd had dragon fuse glove. Aotd did 85k while my SF did over 140k. I don't know if it is my setup or armour. But I think it really depends. But I do agree GS is not worth it since my GS did around 160k. Aotd is really good for its price however dragon fuse glove is like 10m rn.

in my opinion you should've switched powers to get more fair dmg, for example FOT could do way more then aotd if you used silky, also you completely forgot that livid gets another +25% atk speed in dungeons making it do quite a bit more DPS then aotd

What if I dropped the gs from f6, is it still worth it? Personally, I think my account is pretty balanced, and I’ve only spent around 35m coins (price for opening the chest + upgrades)

before the end update shadow fury was so good it only costed 20m and was a huge damage upgrade from almost everything but now with it costing 50m its really not worth it and if you really want a big damage sword you should go for giant sword even tho theres not much use for big damage swords

I love your content but I have issues mainly revolving around the aotd/livid dagger and also mp you never mention dungeonization requirement of the aotd which is above the livid dagger so inside dungeons livid dagger is better for 3 cata levels. Also can you use 1/4 back stamps with it and average it up to make it more fair. Also plz balance strength and crit damage it won’t change anything bc that’ll be the damage you’ll get with equal stats. I feel that those tweaks shall make more thourough testing. (Nvm on the req thing lol but I’m 87.03% sure you don’t do it in other videos)

1: how do you hide your armor? 2: where did you get those cosmetics?

I bought a giant‘s Sword because I was sad to use a Wither Cloak as my main weapon as a tank. I‘m really thinking to sell my gs for now for a better ability weapon like a 10 star fire veil or a bow. Tysm for ur comparison, I was suprised about the low danage it actually deals.

I don’t get why you put the fot as an upgrade from the livid dagger, I have both and even tho I can’t use my fot anymore since they changed the requirements, I remember my livid dagger doing way more damage. Fot is just great for clearing

0:35 "high cata requirment" 14 and 19, there's no way that anyone seriously thinks those are high cata

I would of loved if you tested reaper scythe

a livid dagger with soul eater 5 and good anchants costs as much as a aotd with ofa and makes the same amount of damage. doesnt it make more sense then to go for the livid dagger, because you can heal yourself and have a free bracelet slot ?

I’ve don’t have a melee weapon (sold my livid dagger after realizing how bad it was) and i’m looking for a one to use around sky block like in slayers, ghost, and in dungeons. I meet all the requirements for any weapon and i have 535 magic power. Is it still better to go for the AOTD and dragon or is it appropriate to consider a giants sword?

Now we need armor, i need armor that works virtually all situations, except eman slayer ofc. Right now really considering frozen blaze, but i also curious about necron xD

Can we do one of these for the tank dungeon class? Drag armor, sup drag, sa, tank, super tank, 3/4 goldor no gemstones with mender fedora, 3/4 goldor max gemstone mender crown or reaper mask.

Can anyone tell me who to get dragon helmet texture Like him. Im trying to find it everywhere and i seem to be out of luck. I downloaded his texture pack and still dont have it. Is it an options thing?

do you know why I do 30k damages with 3/4 necron and maxor boots using shadow fury?

Which better for the armor with AotD? Renowed or Ancient?

I believe that the test would be more objective and correct if you would use your normal glove instead of the ender glove for all weapons(without the AOTD ofc) because if you wouldn't use the AOTD normaly you would not use the ender glove, as it is not as good and effective as another piece of equipment, like molten, as an example.

I believe the progression model should be aotd then livid dagger Listen you probably didnt know that attack speed gets boosted by stars in dungeons m,aking it actually 75 attack speed and the occasional backstabs and 100 cc makes it viable for tanks healers and makes it so if mid game players had problems with crit chance they could stop putting tunings to crit chance but instead damage and use more damage reforges. After that once u hit cata 20 sell livid dagger and get both flower of truth and fel sword as they are both good weapons that are cheap the flower of truth can clear and fel is good for mini bosses and u can use the money u saved to do revs and get combat exp and kills. After this, this is off the list but definetely get a juju/soul whip. The soul whip does do more damage as a berserker because it is a rod and has easier clear than juju and easy to use and it is also good for tank agro in f7 but its fishing 26 which is quite difficult. Juju is definetely a good choice because it boasts more dps then soul whip and easy to get and bruh eman 5 isnt hard I legit used 3/4 ender and revived heart and fel sword to do it lmaoo. And then once you have juju or soul whip I would sell the fel sword which you got kills on which is easy profit because you can sell then for 3m which u boujght for 20k and u can keep ur fot if u really want. And then after that since melee weapons are really good for dps I would hold off and invest in combat levels talis etc. Like 100-200m before you go for shadow fury. Now imma be honest with juju u can do good dps even as berserk and if u chose soul whip A REALLY REALLY good clear weapon especially with the pierce its kinda useless. BUT because i told uj to grind revs u have rev 8 hopefully and you should buy shadow fury ( high single damage weaon) and aots so you can aots swap and do massive damage. And you might tell me that is overkill but aots can be used many places and for slayers and everything else shadow fury is good And for bers u kinda need aots. I would also upgrade my armor to frozen blaze and epic blaze pet as it boasts a lot nmore survivability and only weilds a tiny bit less damage. So the final setup progression shoujld be aotd livid dagger fot fel sword Juju/soul whip Shadow fury aots

Hey man i loved the video and i was wondering if ur maybe considering to do one for mage or something else?

What about AOTS? It has not been concluded in the video

Reaper Scythe is also a really solid choice imo. Only 23m for 333 dmg, also rev 7 is easy to reach.

i completed f5 when dugeons didnt have cata repuierments so i was at cata 7 with a livid dagger and my friend was very confused at how i can use it

Hi, can you do an armor progression guide ?

Happy to see this. Ppl been bullying my ironman for using aotd in f6 even tho i have a huge buff w e dragon and the glove. I can casually do f6 wo dying or struggling

I bought and maxed a giant sword immediately after completing f6 should i sell it and buy a shadow fury and necron armor for when i'll be on f7?

Imma say we have to discuss if melee is even viable in dungeons. Because honestly, before you get an edrag you should probaby get your eman slayer up and get a juju. Even as a bers. Melee is only viable for tank and even then, a soulwhip is the upgrade you should go for which wasnt even listed here.

Take a shot every time he says "Aotd and Dragonfuse glove"

You didn’t use one for all on shadow fury and giant sword. Its just 5m and the damage upgrade is more worth it than fully enchanting them with all other enchants. They would do more damage and if you think its a „unfair“ comparison then just put one for all on all the swords.

Forgot about armor however, as nobody is sticking with superior for the whole game. The best upgrades are Frozen Blaze with a blaze pet, until you can afford an edrag, or necron with any dmg pet until you can afford an edrag. At that point, necron is the only viable set in dungeons for meele, and outside of dungeons its pretty much required to go hypemage and run kuudra for crimson

AOTV is not meant for damage, it's used for teleporting more efficiently than an AOTE and many player using an AOTV probably have no intention to ever use it as a damage weapon. Apart from that this was a great, informative video that can be really helpful to early game players.

Also, there’s a lot more amazing options after the new updates such as felthorn reaper, or bouquet of lies. And shadow fury has a requirement of cata 14 not 15z

I got a feeling that the man just REALLY hate livid dagger

This is a rly nice good vid keep it up

As a fel sword enjoyer I see this as a win

Can u do a mage progression guide?

You didn't talk about the warped aotv with the strong dragon armour I think it could rival the aotd but im not sure

Whats the best dps pet?

I really liked the video, it was very informative. Sadly i feel like mage / archer just completely destroy melee. I hope that they change some things up soon, as if you don't have a hype, using jinxed vodoo doll and fire veil wand you can deal way more damage than even using a giant's sword.

While yes the fel sword is pretty cheap the one your were using has 10k kills on it wich makes it way more expensive ( it’s around 7-10m from what I’ve seen ) so it isn’t that good of an option considering it’s price, still a great video you make good content! Edit : mb didn’t see the section about the fel sword …

I got a giant sword in a cheast and i dont Know if i sell or use it can Simone Help me?

something i do alot on my main is ice spray go behind livid dagger it does so much more damage then my shadow fury because of the 2.20x damage buff (assuming the livid dagger damage buff is multiplicative) and the 50 more attack speed is crazy and i melt bosses

I won’t lie, I thought he said “Dirt Claymore” instead of “Dark Claymore” and was like “WHAT THE F- WHAT DID I MISS?!” 😂😂😂

Just curious if you're ever going to consider the Ironman equivalent prices? I know that a lot of these weapons are primarily RNG based but they are cheaper compared to the user market equivalent prices

6:39 doesnt aotv require ender slayer 6 to craft it? it's around 15,5m if you buy it from ah

You forgot to test the back hit of the Livid Dagger😮😮😮😮

Having a legendary ender dragon, 600m-700m in talisman (700-800 MP) and still using an AOTD will not cut it. I feel like you did not take into account for the armor upgrades which you will obviously make while progressing. You could safely say that a person with such money invested, has around 2b-2.5b net worth and a necron set. You would surely have thought about swapping it out for either a Juju or a Shadow Fury or a Giant's Sword. Maybe even a mage set within that span of progression.

fel sword dealing that dmg i was really suprised in another aspect im not sure if i should buy a giants for just outside world since in dungeons i want to be a mage

Upgrading a aotd without a dragon fuse glove to a shadow fury. It's a great choice to make. I did double damage because I had gauntlet of contagion. It's a worth it weapon if you have money it will last a long time till probably a claymore unless u are Ironman. So yeah sf is good

As an ironman, i was using aotd up until lvl 200 but then i finally dropped livid (i didnt run alot of dungeons) and used that for a week until i dropped shadow fury (80th run, very lucky ik) and am using that at almost lvl 250 now and do abt 150k dmg with it

I think a better use of money would be to spend the coins on maxing out mining and getting a hypermaxed out mining setup so you can use the billions made from mining to upgrade your talisman and getting better gear like a Valkyrie/hype when your of higher magical power.

I'm an ironman who doesn't do a lotta dungeons so i don't have smth like a gs or hyp which is why i use warped aotv. I deal around 400k with it outside of dungeons without stuff like rag axe. It's honestly amazing how good the warped reforge is

Amazing video !!

can u make the same thing but with armor?

i remember you from an old guild we were both in, ages ago called recombobulated

where are your cosmetics from Soldier?