[Member Stream] Suisei Sings Red! [Clip Permission Granted by Suisei] 

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It would be funny if she only learned how to pronounce English words and had no idea what she was actually saying

@@theorensotoropolis7597 I think that may be pretty close to the truth actually lol. She's talked before about having major trouble learning English.

@@theorensotoropolis7597it's easier to just mimic sounds instead of just words

That's a good dedication too. Since there is time other languages can make your rap flow better.

It's similar but more difficult, due to the fact Japanese only uses 50~ syllables and the way things are pronounced are tied closely to them. English on the other hand has a load more, and has the added issue of the same letters being pronounced differently or different words being pronounced the same. So that leads to issues like if she wants to remember how to say "bag" in katakana she would use 「バグ」however that when translated to Romaji becomes "bagu" due to Japanese not have a letter that directly represents the G sound in Bag. However all 50 of the Japanese syllables can be written out in English, which is why Romaji works for text input on computers/phones etc. So Suisei can write the lyrics out in Katakana roughly, however she still has to remember the English pronunciation of the words because 90% of the time you're not going to be able to get a direct like for like pronunciation. The funny thing is Japanese already know a lot of English words, however they only understand them when said using word structure. So even if you don't know a whole lot of Japanese. If you know the general sentence structure along with the 50 syllables and can make a decent guess at how to Romajify a English word. You can probably get your point across to a non-english speaking Japanese person.

@@bidaum_4822 yea I see that, she even put alphabets in one of the words to better represent the pronunciation, I saw somewhere in the lyrics ストライｂ

Yes. I also translate stuff to my native language's alphabet when I tried to sing it. Its faster to process as my brain is trained to do it automatically.

@@shoyusuki8687 ”ストライｂ”(straib) instead of ”ストライブ” (sutoraibu), that was actually really smart. I've found myself using similar markup, but I was doing speeches and oration at the time. Doing this for song lyrics requires a special determination.

@@novikovPrinciple can I know what do you did with your markup

Dude if u saw that membership stream...she was going insane man, suddenly shouting, then laughing, then hit her table, then starts speaking giberish 😂 it was so painful but the result is amazing

@@silicabraille sounds like the normal reactions of a person falling into madness XDDD Seriously though she really kept at it even when she got really frustrated and annoyed and stuff and ended up being able to do it really well which is amazing! (also I'm saying this based on what you said, I don't have enough money for a membership and couldn't watch the stream :3)

@@silicabraille True that's when the *Evil laugh Suicopath* was witnessed 😂 She went full huehuehue

@@a1pha514 how often she does this member-only grinding stream?

@@lynardskynard2895 I'm actually relatively new but for these past... 3 or 2 weeks I believe this was the only members only stream she did.

Yeah and Suisei doesn't even really know/understand it all, so ... It's really amazing how hard she must have trained to be able to do that! Sasuga Suisei-chan!

@@Dominik-K I know of Japanese singers specialized in singing English songs by brute-force memorization of the lyrics, without knowing a word in English.

@@Seele2015au What you just said, I have to agree. Literally when I went to China, American pop songs are being sang by elementary school kids with amazing memory.

Me who mastered it easily and can only fluently speak in English: *I've always known I didn't exist*

@@nomaidens8022 meanwhile there's me who can't even sing with lyrics at 70 wpm, much less rap. And it's so sad to think about because I can't rap for quick songs in any of the languages that i can speak.

Well this is the result of her practice for less than 2 hour plus she is not a native speaker so i think its already amazing

@@midr7146 Forget the non native part, she doesn't even really speak English. Honestly huge props

the fact she really tried it is already a great improvement

@@Taoutes aint that normal for every singer and rapper?

@@Taoutes Singers and Rappers usually take many takes and then discuss them which sounded better with the composer and the singer. It is studio recording afterall so it's gotta be perfect because hololive doesnt necessarily use much autotone. Even if your a professional rapper or singer still takes many re-tries to hit the right tone and sound composer's looking for

yet, it's a genious move

It like learning to sing Japanese songs by reading the romaji

@@azelynhirano Well, you get used to it after a few times. I do that a lot if I want to learn the lyrics to a song.

It's interesting, as it makes me remember back in the day where I did something similar for Japanese rap. Take the romaji lyrics and jot down notes on how the syllables are strung together musically in a way that I can understand

@@azelynhirano ĺllll LMK llllllllllllllllllll

Watame can too i think

@@aminazman9311 Well yeah, Watame can also rap

@@aminazman9311 what about fubuki?

@@raiko7700 i mean the vocal range actually. Like watame usually speaks softly but this suddenly change when she's rapping or singing

@@raiko7700 Can rap faster than anyone only if she's talking about glasses

If she do it, i will xD

It just a matter of time. Calli here will be like J.cole showing up in everyone album

You're a prophet.

Im surprise you predicted it

in just a month both of them did collab, what a prophet

Getcha be like, yo bruh?

Yeah, she spent most of the stream transcribing the lyrics to katakana and trying to get the sounds right. Just needs some polishing for the final version hopefully.

I think most people do that when having to learn a songs in another language. Ive written chinese songs phonetically in the latin alphabet when I needed to learn to sing them.

That's our comet idol! Always striving towards her destination as she shines brightly and inspire other people like me who sees her journey

@@xarezarcs4125 Yeah, I've done it too for most japanese songs. It's super hard in my opinion and Suisei pulled it off pretty well! And don't forget Calli actually has lots of background vocals too, like her lines start when the last line hasn't finished fully yet sometimes

Suisei has said her Mother is an English translator/teacher and even though Suisei doesn't have an amazing vocab, the pronunciation has been drilled into her. Look up some other Suisei English clips and she has practically native pronunciation of some words.

she doesn't do the thing in japanese where all consonants have to have a vowel with it. Her words just end with the consonant.

I think thats one of the reasons she did duolingo stream

I think that title is already coco's

@@kawaiioppai6962 coco is native american born tho who later in live moved to japan

God I love Calli, and without substitles I haven't really followed the JP side as much... But seeing this kind of changing my mind, I am subbed to most of JP, but I might actually start watching their videos Even if there are no subtitles

my gosh, this is incredibly true

What is more amazing is that she just start practice the nyamnyambnyamntamble part for less than 2 hours in yesterday's membership stream (she started phono transcripting the rap part into the katakana on the screen line by line and then start practicing rapping at 0.5x speed and then speed up). This version is at the end of the stream which she said is okay to clip! So she improved this much only in less than 2 hours!

@@hoangthai9982 In 2 hours? Damn, even a native speaker is having a hard time doing the rap

@@Ro-chan1 The rap isn't too hard took 15 min but what's really tough is figuring out where to breathe lmao 😂 like christ you got 0.00006 seconds to breathe in some parts I'm not built for this 💀

You'll get it. You'll also get Calli and AZKi collabing at some point too, they are all far too familiar with each others' business in the music scene to not be eyeing up a free slot to work together. Each are dedicated to their musical careers, moreso than a lot of Hololive, they wouldn't pass up a chance to work together/learn from one another. It's partly why Watame is so enamoured with Calli too, she sees someone she can learn from to help her improve her own musical talent, and Calli in turn was (and still is) more than happy to oblige.

wish granted

He its called the song is called (Getcha)

Wish granted I suppose

Yes bro

ALSO HER VOICE IS SO SEXY IM IN TEARS

She is always the most talented singer in hololive.

Remember Sui-chan got rejected once for being too talented

finally my slightly disarranged thoughts were specifically described in another comment... THANKS, I AGREE

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I like how the replies just became tutorials and theyre all equally hilarious and helpful

she nailed singing frozen and i want it that way too so i guess her technique with changing english to katakana is really effective

Yeah and her mom probably helps Suisei in english proper pronounciation along with Suisei liking maroon 5 and backstreet boys songs.

It would be awesome an off-collab with calli

@@stuffyroom173 He said Sui-chan gave permission though ?

Before this last part she nailed the last rap, except the rest 😂 now it's vice versa www

@@stuffyroom173 suisei herself gave permission to clip this, and I'm a member and I'm ok with this :/

@@silicabraille oops sorry Im just used to people uploading member streams with no permission. An usually people dont look at the comment after some time. So I rushed things. This was completely my fault.