Men Objectify Women - Really? - Don't miss this debate!!  

Yes they do

Team b

Both objectify both

I don't get hard based on how many degrees she has or her credit score.

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Stupid Team and duffer people, they don’t even realize the topic

@@Akrazzyy yes team A i know

@@Akrazzyy your own Comment only reveals who didn't get the topic

Yes I agree

Obviously you will support men, there is a huge male fan following in India.

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Same 😩

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Same dude😂

They do.

@@user-en7dx1qp3k 😂🤣🤣 fact

no one should objectify anyone. just look at the person's personality only

@@samsal6378 he was saying facts

@Mike Banning literally everything

team b is stupid

@@samsal6378 team a is STUPID

@@artistry._.4319 u r stupid

@@samsal6378 oh thanks stupid

How do know she was not laughing at their stupidity?

Introvert doesn't have anything to do with it you can be very comfortable on stage and confident it must be that you are shy but hey you can work on it 👌

@@shinchan___4 yeah you are right, I am a introvert but I love to give speeches or take part in debates in my college..

You are mixing objectification and comparing

@@varshini008 I think you haven't got the point lol

What about men showing their 6packs , biceps all that in social media....to get promoted and paid.. Are they not objectifying themselves!

@@malovikaroy9738 obviously did I deny? But why only Instagram stuff I also brought only fans here if you don't know what Only fan us then lemme tell it's a site where girls most like sells their nude images for money? But how often do you see guys doing that? Even porn main faces are women. Why only talk about Instagram stuff. How often will you see a guy has a only fans where he sells his nudes?

@@malovikaroy9738 first of all chest region in men is not a sexùal part ..... u got the answer

It seems men are just guilty , no need to try and prove innocence

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I don't know how much you know about Indian history. But there was a time when when women in southern India would walk topless and it was totally acceptable. The thing is societal norms keep changing with time. One then wonders why women in those times could walk topless and not get objectified and raped and now they can't.

They have seeping into our society for a few years

Objectification is when you look at a human being like an object to be used for some purpose and your don't consider how your actions would affect that person both physically and emotionally. The debate is much more nuanced than how these school students did it. I don't think a person can objectify herself. Can you think of yourself just an object and not consider your feelings?

@@expeditioner9322 I don't get it lol. If objectifying is treating others as objects, i don't think any sane men would objectify a woman except for some psychos and rapists. Btw, every individual have their opinion and way of thinking. If i see a girl dressing inappropriately ( lets say a bikini to the college ) , as any rational person , i would immediately react by thinking of her as some crazy weirdo who doesn't know how to dress rightly and i would try my best not to look at her. Idk what is objectifying here? Ofcourse , there are people who naturally think that she must be showing her body in public on purpose and she is shameless. But it is their genuine reactions, you cannot control them. You can only control how you dress up to place. I still don't get how do people treat women who dress inappropriately (in their pov) as objects .

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And married females don't even offer anything for it. Men are treated like ATM. 90% of spending is done by females these days. Sad

Yea they buy dress their women choose

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@ishi4472 Thanks

It's B And C Brothe

@@sxnathpoojary8650 right

Team a is brilliant

Maybe they have suffered and were bought back to the memories while expressing

It's exactly that there are not debating

Than not then

@Akash Mishra MGTOW yay

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I think you are a simp

@@artistry._.4319 simp? we can easily judge their intellect by their statements. I think you are 'DUMB'.

@@my3shreddy I think you are NOT IN REALITY

It's just a debate. Team B actually supported team A in the end

You are not supporting because you want A team to be superior. Think about it. Or atleast not pretend like a pseudo-feminist

Nudity isn't right

Right ✅

The moral blame still lies on the person who decides to rape, harass or misbehave with someone because they're wearing revealing clothes. Sure it might be the case that in certain instances, women might be wearing certain types of clothes to attract a potential partner sexually. But that's upto her. It doesn't make sense for a person to be mad about someone wearing short clothes.

@@MostLucid Rapists are Rapists by their mindsets, they don't rely on what the lady is wearing either shortskirts or winter jackets. It is totally different matter to discuss. My point is that why some women want to attract random people to their bodies. Yes, it is their right to wear anything. But don't you think it is complete idiotic behaviour to use their body as exhibit for others ? Here i m asking this over morals !!

@@ashutoshdwivedi5148 A lot of people dress up on certain occasions specifically to attract the attention of people of the opposite sex. I don't think there's anything immoral about that. Why do you think a lot of guys go to the gym? For some people its health related reasons but for a lot of people its to look attractive

@@MostLucid so they objectify themselves

@@Egg-wt1pk Objectification is when you reduce women to nothing but objects of sexual desire while ignoring their character, personality and worth. When you dress up in a sexually appealing way you're expressing one of the different aspects of your character which is sexuality. If a guy goes to the gym and expresses his sexuality by posting a picture of his abs on social media, you would not say that he's objectifying himself. He'd become an object if he's perceived by people as nothing but a piece of meat with no other function.

Not at all! You are not wrong. These are some pseudo-feminist who are responsible for these kind of incidents

Relationship goes both ways.. if she's not listening to you or doesn't cares about your dignity or decent demands.. walk out of relationship. That's toxic feminine

It really depends on what the clothing is and whether it's appropriate for that social settings. For example, say she picked a ghagra, and if it's pretty common for a person to wear ghagras where you're from then it's probably okay if she picked it. If the problem you have is if by wearing a ghagra she attracting a lot of attention from other guys etc, then I'd say you're being possessive.

@@MostLucid He clearly said he didn't want her in One piece because it's a Hindu wedding where he's family members will come. I don't think he has an issue on what she wear but he knows there's a time and place

@@MostLucid He clearly gave a choice to not come if she's gonna wear. And by the fact that she is his gf and close enough to get invited to his sister wedding then they probably been together for long and he knows she likes that type of clothing and he's okay. But he didn't want her to come to the wedding like she usually dress is that controling at all? Like what if she had a function and he wears something random which she'd feel embrassed to tell anyone that's her BF would that be possessive at all rather you'll blame him lol. And also She humiliated him Infront of people and be clearly gave her a choice but she wanted Drama lol. How is it possessive if she's given a choice. And also he probably knows she doesn't need to come to a wedding to get attention from other men(By the way why is it wrong for a man to not want her girl getting attention from other men at all? But when girls literally wants access to everything a mans privacy that's seen as nothing). He stated there are aunties probably he wants to save her from their judgment not because he's controling so your argument is useless

ikr ...still many of them r defending their mentality of objectifying a women on the basis of their dressings ..🙂💔

@Vedant Kumar haha that says a mud legend..educate yourself 1st..know wht is feminism feminist..you poor kid

@Vedant Kumar FEMENISM is something you gender biased people will never get it ...uh have no right to objectify ANYone ...

@@esthervgis6726 yeah I know what femnism is. It is to hate men

We agree with you. Unfortunately, not all debates adhere to strict debating norms. A debate like this one gets us more eyeballs and could make the whole exercise of debate popular, but may not serve the expectation of a good debate. Nevertheless, this could also inspire more people take up debating and when that happens we may be able to bring in more formality and desirable techniques into it.

You are WRONG .IF ITS IN RELATION SHIP WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR FATHER RUNNING THROUGH ROAD WEARING UNDERWEAR 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I don't know what you found impressive about Team B. Was it the loudness? They hardly made any good arguments. They claimed in situations it is rights for men to objectify women but they did not provide a single example. They mostly relied on emotional appeal rather than logical reasoning.

@@expeditioner9322 Please read what i have wrote?

😂 they were side quest (Which suçks)

It has always been a norm. Makeup and decoration is a part of creativity. There's a stereotype that men are more logical and women are more creative.

It's not objectification. Objectifying women means seeing women as toys that is only to be valued on their looks. Not their soul. We should not objectify women. Women are humans too.

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Think without bringing femanism in between

Yess that's Shows Your mindset

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No someone wears whatever he/she wants unless it is fully not allowed. And it's their fault that they see women as object. Have you ever seen a woman seeing a man in LUX cosy underwear as a object? No. But some man do see woman in Jockey underwear as object. See the difference?

​​@@godtrxgaming7715 Well everyone has the right to think whatever he/ she wants. No one is allowed to change anyone's thinking without the person's permission. But before turning someone's thinking into actions, this should be realized how their actions affect others . Rather than changing someone's mindset, a person should be taught to respect everyone, no matter who someone is.

The thing is.. Men are more sexually charged than women... And studies show that men are more sexually attracted at younger age and women are more at mid 30s..now its ohk to be sexually attracted to someone.. But if you do something inappropriate without consent is the prblem. Now, as for the club... Yes women can dress sexily to attract attention or may be express her sexuality... N its ohk to get attracted but degrading her for the same is bad I feel. You can appreciate beauty. But dont really know if I can convey it correctly because I find man attractive so I compliment them. Not in a creepy way obviously. But I don't degrade them.

@@puccaangelina926 I also agree with you but please change the last line from ' respecting everyone ' to ' respecting those who deserve it '

@@212letliveonearth wtf is expressing her sexuality 🤔😏 Western and modern women r just attention wh##es nothing more.

Hows that fact?🤣its mere triggered

These boys are lul...

@@debayanpal3181 lol you here too

@@whatthehell7975 talking about the girls? Yes I agree they were triggered 😂

@@debayanpal3181 Pal you are lul🤣

Understand the fact that how much ever the strict laws we enforce, criminals are still gonna do the crime, they have a completely different mentality than us. So its better to take precautions for such things. Not everything has to be taken on Ego.

News flash!!! 🗞 📰 There r bad guys in the world. Ur safety is mostly UR OWN RESPONSIBILITY!!! No one else owes u anything. Don’t b a burden on society or random men on the street to save u. If u can’t handle a bad man in ur own, take precautions. Prepare in advance. Don’t b fat for example. Eat healthy. Get training. Carry a weapon. Don’t walk around with jewelry. Don’t wear a headphone so u can c and hear if anyone is following u. Men also face mugging and violence. R they crying for ur help. Do they expect u to jump in and save u?? R u a princess?? Y r u more special than a random man??? If men aren’t expecting other men or women to jump in to save them, u r no different. Outside ur own home, there r predators. There r risks. It’s UR JOB to mitigate those risks. Society, even at best, can only do so much. And they can’t b there for u AT ALL TIMES.

Yes ofcourse

yeah bcz of team b

@@samsal6378 what are saying...you are guy in above comment right..I think you are 14 yo girl right

@Ben Tennyson u r cancer

@@samsal6378 Which thing U find against women....in the team b..

It's a debate between kids so I don't think it does

First you mind your language, please. This debate is not for people like you.

@@verbattle U better learn how to give statements for discussions which can contribute to some good values to the society then I will mind my language . The discussion is obviously not for me if such a statement is given , it indeed suits those who think objectifying is okay . The intro itself shows how its gng to be. Think of why people don't like the statement instead of shutting them up .

@@darshita1270 Just see how many people who have liked it. We cannot worry about a few who find fault with everything. And most children are more intelligent and wise than a lot of hapless adults.

​@@verbattle you stupid don't know anything 🤬🤬

​@@darshita1270 i agree with you 💯👊

Harshvardhan Kapri bitch shut up

@@channel7368 Here's another misogynist, I suppose.

1st of all this is pseudo feminism if you know the meaning then its good. Rest read my comment then you will realise what you are missing.

Team A bhenke lodo ki team

@@HaruCapi u r a misandrist just shut up

That means u have no knowledge of debate , team a topic is good but they can't defend it...

Hahaha. Team a are full of fallacies. Bad arguments

Give one example brother 😂

Name a few examples please 😂

Sry small correction TEAM A. - live under a rock,suppressing men,,more ego,,, TEAM B.-- REALITY,,FACTS

ikr examples which are stupid

Team A : Think No Men has the right to question them (father as well) Team B : Respect the opinion of our parents

@@sxnathpoojary8650 @Sxnath Mania No... Just no.. B's argument is you're not listening to your brothers or father when they ask you not to go to the party dressed in revealing clothes. Men like the father can objectify her to protect her? What kind of shitty argument is that? It shouldn't matter what the girl is wearing cause the men at they party shouldn't be objectifying her either. Team A is debating the statement with facts. While Team B's repeated argument was that the girl shouldn't mind what the others say which is not related to the topic at all.

@@divyadharshinishanmugam4851 Wtf!! My parents don't Want me to go to a Pub, Should I debate over it? My mom doesn't want me to Apply tattoos because she thinks that isn't good, Should we go against it? If Someone Random is saying how to wear or what to wear that's Not accepted, If Your Parents doesn't want you to wear that particular dress then you should not go against it.

1. first of all BOTH MEN AND WOMEN don't go nude in society ... So ur point should be equal for both of them ... BOTH of us don't go nude outside bcz we want to get DRESSED as we want... not to show OUR BODY .... when a PATIENT visits a DOCTOR the doctor OBSERVES his / her body ... but doesn't sexually objectifies him/her bcz its our need ... when u wax ur body u show ur body parts to the experties ... they don't objectifies u bcz its ur choice to be waxed .... when someone is raped and threw in public with out a single piece of cloth people are more curious about the case how mant people raped her or from where she is etc but she is not objectified physically at that moment bcz of the atmosphere created over there.... so society should also accept and they should also give respect the choice of others in the society ... when in a SOCIETY u don't have this much understanding and freedom this SHOULDN'T BE CALLED A SOCIETY ... 2. men are visually stimulated -- so thats their weakness so this doesn't mean women should cover themselves not to stimulate MEN ... its men's problem they should control it... 3.u see u have told PEOPLE GET UNCOMFORTABLE WITH YOU ... means the problem lies in the PEOPLE... not in the wearings ... when a mother breastfeeds her baby others humiliate her ... even her breasts catches many eyes right ?? isn't it the need of the baby ??? even if someone gets uncomfortable he/she should adjust a little bit .... we are living SOCIETY yaa?? then society should help us by doing this little... if someone is uncomfortable about that they should think about the atmosphere and upgrade their mentality ... **** THANK YOU @trom boner this is not about arguing with u .. I was just trying to cross-back ur points... ☺☺

Really very strong statements. Your retaliation to team A is strong enough to make them shut up

Mai kya kuch bol sakta hu , purano me likha hai ki aurto ko full dress pehnana chahiye

@@TAPASKRGHOSH-vb8el Women DO go nude in society. I live in Lucknow and I see nudity ALL the damn time. Do you know the most searched person in India in 2022? Its urfi javed. Tumhare pravachan ki first line hi galat hai. Urfi has OPENLY said that she wants to free women from opression. Jab tumko koi rok nhi raha public me nude hone se, to kahe ka opression hai tumko? R*pe is not conformed to clothing, but more skin exposure just increases the risk.

@@abcdefgh8097 jisko jo pahnna hai pahne

yeeep they were ......💜🙂

That might be because you are a girl against the boys. I do understand them.

Boys won that's why you are jealous 😏😏

@@pratishdhiman4332 yo they got name and are individuals they are not representatives

@@pratishdhiman4332 team A rocked and you're envious😏😌🙏

Objectification isn't a new thing. It didn't suddenly appear with item songs or short dress. It existed even before they become a thing. Objectification was always present in movies and even in non item songs. It doesn't matter if the actresses wears traditional or short western dress. Somehow the focus will end up on breast, waist, hips from all different angle. Watch 90's and some southern movies and u will see it. It's actually more than the issue of short dress it's about how the lady is presented through camera work and surrounding. Since the whole purpose of a today's item song is just to get cheap views by attracting as much perverts as they can so the makers knowingly make the girls wear short dress then objectifies them using camera and surrounds them with only boys just to ogle at her, sings lyrics that r derogatory. This creates a subconscious mindset in boys that whenever any girl even if by little is exposing her skin ogle at her , that she is like an item girl. Now to understand why objectification is less about short clothes and more about camera focus and presentation of the female through lens watch Wonder Woman (2017) , Birds of Prey (2020), Zack Synder Justice League (watch the clips of Wonder Women and Amazonians) and even some female kpop music video like Twice , BlackPink. U will see even though they r wearing short dress the camera focus is never on breast, hips, waist or captures them in typically objectifying way. It's always stays clean. WW and BOP were both were directed by women meanwhile the kpop videos mostly by men and so does Zack Synder Justice League. So why is that the women directors were able to make a whole 2hr movie without objectifying the actress even though they were wearing short dress through out the movie same with Zack Synder and the directors of kpop mv but here we r miserably failing at it?! Why instead of calling out the men who r controlling everything behind the scene and using shortness of a dress as cheap way to satisfy and justify their immoral ideas and pervertness we blame everything on short dress??!

@@Vor567tez yes dress should not be shown for cheapness. You have given good example. But you didn't Understand my point. The point is that objectification cannot be done by one gender. Example if men say that women only want money then its not correct because you yourself allowed that women in your life. You should have confirmed that is she behind your money or you. Yes there will be some goods and bads in society in both genders but its first upto you what you will promote. So Objectification is a two way process. If your are shown vulgar by any one you should object it and hence should not promote it. And when it comes to clothes the one's which are not even clothes cannot be called clothes.. Because the meaning of cloth is to cover your body but at the same time you are wearing just few pieces and naming them as clothes which is duplicitous. So if a girl or a boy wears less clothes then appossite gender should not assume that he/she is doing that because he/she is vulgar or item but at the same time the less cloth wearing people are duplicitous. Also less clothes has no limits. It can result into topless and going nude as happening in many countries. It leads to vulgarity and increased sexuality in society. So what we should do? So here comes the necessity social values. A man should be taught that if a women wears any clothes or remain naked see her as body and not an attraction or any object which for your playing(sex game). So she may not be doing it conciously so let her be as she is. Similarly women should be taught that if men become horny and watch porn there testosterone level will reduce which will ultimately affect the upcoming generations. So wear clothes which are modest and so expressing that your body is not something that anyone can look. Yes when you are at home, at gym, swimming pool, playing tennis or any physical games then here comfort is necessary so wear whatever you want may be skirts, shorts or naked. Here men need to understand that they should not be near to such places. Its there duty to remain as far as possible.. Still i want your opinion atleast reply as you are convinced or not

@@__vaidic__purush_ I understand ur point and it's true that some woman too objectify themselves which actually makes this an issue of behavior than clothes. But perception is very important in objectifying something. In summer days so many men roam here just wearing underwear and noone, no man or woman will neither eve tease them or call them perverts bcz the perception of society towards male wearing short dress is neutral. However when a woman wears a short dress even if it's far from being provocative or her waist is showing in saree suddenly alot of men will eve tease her or ogle at her while others including some woman will say she is attention seeker. Despite her behavior was modest. Why such difference? So yes not whole male gender is to be blamed but it's definetly the fault of certain perverted men who got enough power and control to spread their ill perspective and now it's affecting whole population and the cycle continues.

@@Vor567tez here you should obviously make them wear full clothes. Men are less shameful and self controlled hence make mistakes but just to make equality you should not do the same stupid things that men are doing. somewhere you have to see the difference between diversity and discrimination. males will do mistakes because he is less controlled but you being more strong here should sacrifice for him and should not do that which make him go towards sexuality. hence you should wear clothes a little bit more. Its same as that a men should preserve a women and should not slap girl in return even if she slaps and also keeping girls first and also offering girls to sit on the seat by remaining himself standing because its not matriarchy or discrimination but diversity. how? because here women are less physically strong, they already feel much pain every month(periods) and so here males should bear physical pain and preserve women in their weakness.

@@__vaidic__purush_ basically, men should help women in terms of physical strength and women should help men when it comes to mental strength. 🤔 Then we can have a balance in society.

Ha lol I thought the same

It's just a debate, doesn't mean they are like that lmao. In a debate, one puts forward sometimes stupid analogies and facts to prove their point be it *any team.* Moreover why always girls say boys are wrong and vice versa? Why not cooperate?

@@knightfury6587 what do gurls say that triggered you most...and to the extent that you are told daily

@@whatthehell7975 I guess, I also wrote 'vice versa'. Google it if you don't know the meaning. Moreover, neither did I give any of my views on this topic nor did I raise any other topic. It's just a common understanding that people try to enforce their views upon others. I just asked everyone to listen and co-operate.

@@whatthehell7975 This is the biasedness and sexism that has been instilled upon you. Take this case, 'Why do only boys say girls are wrong and vice versa, why not co-operate?' It looks like the whole plot has changed, whereas it's just the same thing.

@@whatthehell7975 Don't get me wrong, I respect women with all my heart. I don't judge anyone by their dresses, colour, race etc. Everyone has the right to live their life freely.

Even a father's sincere correction is portrayed by feminist as objectification

Onlyfan age well in west

Bhai tumko kisne bola ki jab ladka ladki ko dekhta hai toh usko rape bolte hai ?

@@Wotttttt Pseudo Feminists yahi bolte hai

Queen nahi atleast bura mat bolo...tum logonko koi kuch nahi bolta...

Agar kuch aye toh ..teko bhi ata hai...tako bhi ata hai...and nahi aye toh nagging karte hai men pura din

What's your point again?

Stfu feminizt

They wear it because it's their RELIGION. And today's topic is based on SEXISM. There's a HUGE difference

Group A vouched for nudity Lol

Whenever they say they can wear whatever they want , they're simply saying that they'd wear revealing clothes and only rich men should look at them😂 Self objectification

@@trigcat3107 wtf seriouslyyyy ..... team A ..these girls are 15-16 yrs old ..and for people like uh ..they've mentioned that they don't wear clothes to impress anyone but to impress themself .....

@@krizzz444 Ok, I'm 16 y'o as well, and if they're mature enough to debate on sexualizing, they're mature enough to get sexualized. If they are dressing to impress themselves who is even stopping them ? Their outdated parents ? That's ok. But that won't stop me from thinking what I want, I'll objectify. Even if a girl is fully covered, I get attracted to her. How am I wrong ? I'm not groping her or anything. I'm not even calling them names.

@@captainaryan26 dude did uh just said they r mature enough to get sexualized??? ....that nomadic tribe person said team a vouched for nudity ..like seriouslyyy jus because a girl want to wear whatever she wants doesn't meant she's asking for it ...and first if all who the hell are uh objectify any human on the basis of their dressing ...her dressing is her choice ..i mean seriously this is not even a point to debate ....uh don't have any right to objectify anyone not your mother , not your sister ,not your daughter and not any girl..... Objectification occurs when one person treats another like a thing or commodity, ignoring his or her humanity and dignity and i don't think its okay to objectify anyone ....she's wearing small dresses doesn't mean she have small mentality ......

Fucc off

Your allowed to the dress the way you like I'm allowed to think the way I like?

Also women smear and judge other women more than men do.

@@deekshachitturi2854 Great assumption there, so I guess judging people by their choice of words is something ok for you to do, while I am not allowed to do the same

@@deekshachitturi2854 All the research studies proving my points are available online. A quick Google search will prove it.

Lol, what jobs are men even doing that they objectify themselves in, if men were actually doing those type of jobs then they would be looked down as well.

You do understand that to a women to get pregnant a man should also be involve and not saying who is wrong or right but you just cutted out the other part for the convince of your debate

There is no winner in this debate...Lol...

How old are you?

What hell means bhagwad Gita do mean India pure book like Kuran( idk spelling)

@Deeksha H A yes go wear your burka lol

@@artistry._.4319 Jai shree Ram 🙏🏽