Sadly, that's not feasible. If you are talking about on a personal level NOT everybody was raised the same nor raised right or to even have he same understanding of Right & Wrong or to even know what being ACCOUNTABLE is, let alone believe they are even accountable. If so, then you wld think PPL wld just do it (be ACCOUNTABL) & it be that easy. So WHY aren't ppl accountable? Why aren't many BLK MEN being accountable? Many ppl are NOT holding themselves accountable- this is just fact! Some don't even see a problem with their bad ways & unaccountability. So how can WE as a society make them? Jails & prisons don't work, child support don't work & has enough of US as slaves in their system. Possibly COLLECTIVELY as a BLK RACE We can hold each other ACCOUNTABLE but that's not really being done. If you look at my comment above - I feel BLK MEN can ONLY be the ones to call out (or call in) & hold OTHER BLK MEN accountable. WE can't look to other races to FIX OUR problems! And WE often do that & air our dirty laundry & prblms out to other races like theyre going to FIX US or HELP When WE should've been (or should BE FIXING OURSELVES). They just use our dysfunction & prblms for EXPLOITATION or to make money & het rich! So far, according to US being the highest statistics for everything- We've FAILED! And still FAILING. So how do WE STOP FAILING? 🤔
2 minutes in and to the first response: the reason you don’t have time for long walks with God is because your priorities are not in order. If God is first in your life, you make time. God first, then everything else. You have to hustle harder in your own strength when He’s not first.
Trill is correct. We, as a community, are marginalizing ourselves. When negotiating a contract the objective is to have a win-win situation. At the end both parties gain. That’s how business works. We do not negotiate requirements. That’s where laws come in. Requirements are non-negotiable.
Ironically it’s “that time with the Lord,” that makes a man shine in public. That’s why most people struggle or whatever they accumulate can easily fall apart. As people our biggest deception to ourselves is that we have everything under control. Everyone’s gonna have time on the day of judgement or when they die which we have no idea when that will be.
Exactly! There are no excuses any longer. We have to start sticking together. Nothing will change for us if we don’t. There are opportunities but there’s too many people making excuses as to why it’s not an opportunity for them. Thank you for this much needed discussion. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
This conversation was in dire need to be said & heard. & Conversation needs to be continuous until US Black people get the message. Until we change the tune, the same ole melody is going to keep playing. Wake up Black & change your way of thinking & how WE do things.
@@IndigoWisdom1 You are delusional,if you look at the black community and conditions of it,it most definitely is led by toxic,defeated men,and the woman that follow behind them,the BC is in shambles
Trill is correct. As a woman, to me the question to our men is how long?….How long do we wait for our men to lead us?…How long? If you look for an excuse you’re going to find it. No one is denying we have been marginalized, we’re waiting for our men to lead and stop being Pookie and Ray Ray.😢
But why are the Pookies and Ray Ray's so intriguing to women? There are tons of men who are honorable, quality men who don't get the time of day from women because they're not flashy or extroverted.
@@mca217 I knew there was going to be at least one comment on here smelling like some blame-the-women. That’s y’all’s problem to solve. Men make things happen. Stand up and be heard. Stand up and make your group noticed. That’s what the whole video is about; men being men, not whiners being whiners. I could be dead wrong, but here are my two cents. In nature, the biggest, fastest, strongest, loudest and most flamboyant males attract the most females during mating season. The Ray-Rays and the Pookies of the world excel at being all of those things. Similarly, the vixen-video model looking women “bring all the boys to the yard”, while the plain Janes and not-as-attractive women are frequently overlooked by most men. The moral of the story is it’s time for black adults, as a whole, to heal and mature and reassess the things they value. All this blame game playing, finger-pointing and name calling has us looking childish, immature and just flat out stupid in these innanet streets and in about 5 minutes, we’re going to be absorbed by all the other groups because we swirl way too much and then we’re going to disappear and we can’t blame nobody for that but ourselves.
@@mca217 Most women don't get with Pookie and Rayray. The type of women yall say yall would never take seriously are the ones that get with pookie and rayray. Most women who are married or in relationships are with men who "seem" honorable (and some actually are). Just because a man is a good person doesn't mean he's prone to be a good relationship partner/ husband. Just like a woman being a good person doesn't necessarily make her ready to be a wife or fit for a relationship.
@@mca217 Sir I don't know what community you live in because most men in the black community are in some kind of "relationship" or married. Pastors, Police, Politicians, the Producer, the Podcast dude, and the so-called Pookies. The Basketball Player, the Drug Dealer, the Teacher, the Engineer, the Bus Driver, the UPS Driver, the Chef. Black women date and marry them all (if asked to do so). Now unless you are saying all BM are Pookies and Ray Rays then you are not making sense because it's not like all the good men are single and all the bad guys have wives/girlfriends. There are tons of women who are honourable quality women who don't get the time of day from men as well. The issue is that those quality women aren't being chosen by these quality men you speak of.
That’s one of the worst things in our community……a failure mindset and the need to be a victim. To say we’ll never catch up is the exact reason why our community doesn’t try. Many people will say the man is holding them back but the reality is your mind is holding you back. Change your mind and watch your world change✨
Right now everything is so unbalanced. We have to truly heal and understand how to love ourselves before attempting to attach ourselves to someone else. Too many broken people are passing on their baggage to one another and it’s a domino effect. ❤🙏🏾
Blacks network all the time in business world, we have black expos for entreprenuers too. i digress, we have fraternies and other black organizations like masons its all about networking. 80% of the jobs i have had came from networking including the one im working right now while i type this. im making money while watching these videos. The issue isnt networking. Its family values. Single mothers arent pushing their sons to go college to get gainful employment. i grew up around chineses, vietnamese, koreans, jews, Fillipios, africans, and indians. i actually have friends who are asians. indians are the wealthest ethnic group in america. Not from networking. They are wealthiest because they push their kids to go to college for a degree in stem 80% of indians in america go to college for stem They tell their sons and daughters. Your going to be a Doctor or Engnieer those are your choices. Now second generartion of indians are getting into computer programming . Single Mothers outpace every race and gender in going to college.. But they are least likely to be into stem. They pick careers in the service indsutry mostly. The Solution Single mothers and Nuclear family Push your kids to go into stem only You can push them into being doctors, cyber security or engineers. If you want to start a business hire friends and family like the chinese do Chinese people i know personally have people they know working for them. Its not unity they not just getting random chinese folks they dont know to work for them Asians and Indians practice extreme neoptism. We should too as blacks Case and point, in highschool FeiShan mom and dad opened up a resturant. Fei worked there along with his mother and father and they had cousins working with them my home boy who is black was cool with Fei, we both ate at Fei house and had dinner and lunch there. We watch kung fu movies they had for a year before it shown in the USA. My home boy who was black ended up working in the kitchen as a cook for chinese buffet. but the thing was we was cool with them they would gave us both jobs there. They hire who they know and they family. Even in corporate. The white females i was cool with, would help me move up and get raises and higher posistions. Black men did the same thing, not so much with sistas. i said all that to say, Other communities like asians focus on high paying careers an come here either to become business owners, or go to college and get degrees in stem. Aint no indian going to school to become a hair stylist. An when you see a shop of girls doing nails, selling beauty supplies they all probably related or friends from the same neighborhood. FAMILY DIRECTION IS WHAT WE LACK. Tell your children either own a business or go to school to be engineer or computer IT
The men who aren’t being men stand for a materially-based lifestyle which is not sustainable. There are most definitely stable and healthy black men out here who are ready to lead a family.
That's the kind of unfortunate advice that gets passed down to our young men , from one generation to the next. I'm glad Trill spoke up and didn't stay in the amen corner.
Self hatred is our worst enemy- with both men & women- we must examine ourselves before pointing the finger at others- when you hate the skin your in- it becomes a epidemic to thrive in a society with some much trauma and hate
Respectfully, my father made it his duty to not only pray but to have all of us pray together as a family at night. The television would be shut off and each of us would pray and he would seal the prayer at the end. Trust, we didn’t have a lot of money at all. We had some hard times, but he kept God first AND remained diligent as a man of the house. My father worked HARD to make sure his family had the necessities. They live a completely different life now, and are very blessed. It is my belief that it was his discipline in his spiritual life that trickled into the other areas which had no choice but to impact his family. I’m grateful for a praying father.
They say the person who feels they really don't have time to talk to God is the one that needs to DOUBLE that time and start talking to God everyday for that amount of time. They need that practice, the Most. Fr.
Dude on the left better tread lightly. You make time for what’s important. If everything was taken from him I guarantee he’d then have all the time he needed to talk to God.
Everybody has time to talk to GOD if they make it a priority! We ALL make time for what we want with sincerity. Why is this so funny when this is one of the deepest soul stirring messages? I watch that couple and this is phenomenal for you young men to discuss this. 👏 Our communities NEED MORE MEN to bring the family and fatherhood and tradition back. We don't have to leave this country to start becoming better Father's, men, son and start respecting our family and ourselves, proceeding to carry ourselves like Malcolm, Martin and our ancestors. We don't have to sell drugs u can be entrepreneur that's history but NOW -Convicted start barber shops, get degrees and start your own. The FOCUS IS WHY AREN’T MEN BEING MEN?
Omg!! Trill thank you, thank you, thank you.. You made me cry😢.. Thank you.. Thank you for stating why women are masculine. Thank you for saying that MEN DONT STEP UP!!!
The reason that we may not have time for God is because we haven’t made time seek ye first the kingdom of heaven all things shall be added unto you life becomes easier with prayer
The carnal man cannot perceive the things of the spirit because it is foolishness to him. Y’all brothers make a lot of good points but y’all nerdy go get in your word and seek the face if God. He is your source in ALL things he comes before all things. This viewpoint and conversation and cursing while speaking about something that’s Holy, turned me if. Sir in the red hats always brings the conversation back to where it needs to be. Preciate you sir.
You can rise above ALL THAT when you stop with the excuses and changing your community. Be active in the change. Our neighbors stay like this because all we do is talking about it instead of doing something about it. Create the unity like Trill said. Stick together instead of keeping the excuses going!
Other cultures dont have community or unity like we think...i grew up with them. They start business and their family and friends work there. Here in saint louis blacks do the same thing Sweetie Pies was a family owned buisness My Uncle had a ice cream shop back in the day both my brothers and many of my cousins all worked there, My cousin has a cleaners an many of cousins worked with him My other cousin was selling insurance and had office leased she has her friend, her friend younger sister ie my ex girlfriend working for her, her daughter working there and my other cousin worked there too. We as blacks do the same things as other races. But overall its not instilled in most families. Indian families push their kids to go to college only for stem. Doctor Singh or enigneering Jewish families push their kids to own businesses, or be lawyers Chinese and Korean families push their kids to own businesses that minorities will spend lots of money on When blacks own businesses its usually just geared towards blacks, an its not anything we really want. its what we should want. I tell folks all the time if you going to open a business as a black person the idea should be have mostly american clinetel not just folks from your old hood. if you go to college dont get a useless degree in communications or cosmotolgy unless you going to own your own business and use your degree with it.
I disagree. It’s men out here that are ready and willing. We as women have to change our mindset. We keep the same men ain’t ish mindset that’s what we will attract.
I LOVE my man to spend time with God as the first and end of the day bc its what I do. We all need that alone time to deal with the chorus us the day. Life is hard, relationships can be challenging and DEALING with humanity is difficult at times. So we l need that alone time to prepare and close of the night to say thank you God. ❤❤❤❤❤
The mindset of of feeling hopeless and believing its too late and that change isnt possible is part of the very conditioning hes talking about. Everything is possible. Change starts with ONE TINY THING!! Let's not believe we are all doomed to repeat the same mistakes. Eveything he said after that was a manifestation of that mindset.
I say the same thing every damn week. Trill been pissed off at his nonsense and now Kenny too???? Even OT looks tired of the screaming loud laughter and illogical commentary. 🙄
I thought it was just me! Cant even sit for a few minutes to engage in a conversation where you are getting PAID. Too busy on the phone..distracted. Literally what this whole conversation is about.
Not all men, I know of many men that are too or completely dependent on women. I myself have experienced it. I forgot what it was like to be cared for.
He better be careful what he say. The Lord give it and he could take it away. If u to busy for him don’t run to him wen u down n out he gone be to busy with ones that’s not to busy for him. Humble yourself sir to far left
It’s never to late to stand together and unite. Stop concerning yourself with catching up. We will never catch up but we can begin to build and work together to strengthen one another. We have choices just like any other culture or race. No matter how you were raised or what you have seen growing up you have a choice on who you want to be or live.
When I heard him say this I shook my head I couldn't believe what I just heard. God has a nice way of stripping you down so you have no choice but to redirect your attention to Him. He better pray that never happens to him because I can tell you God did it to me. He will take away job, roof, wife and kids, so you can turn back to Him. He better watch his mouth and make time for The Lord.
And that’s one of the major problems in the black community, hey guys, let’s make jokes and make each other laugh instead of taking accountability. Let us black men stick together and joke through life instead of pulling up the bootstraps and doing something. And he has a wedding ring on??? Poor lady.
Thank you Trill!!!! I swear I am standing up clapping 👏🏽!!! You said everything that needed to be said! NO MORE EXCUSES! It Ain’t too late! Why do we chop down the positive shit Trill just said? There is NO BUT!!! Smooth, all the shit you just said is WHY we are where we are!!! Smh
Yes, sir in the red hat is absolutely correct. No more excuses. As long as there is breath in our body it is NEVER too late! The next generation deserves better from us as a people.
Smuv is acting like a degenerate. He is childish and will not let go of the “black man’s excuses”. It’s almost like some people read from the same book of scrips of excuses. It is 2023 and we have WAY more leverage in the world than we have had in the past. It just causes us to put in work and most people will go with the plan with the least amount of work! As long as we have good health and wake up every morning it isn’t TOO LATE!
Talk with a sense of Purpose and Pride for Family 💜 Thank you for acknowledging that its an indication you carry this same attributes in life . 💜 Hope lives through the generation that can see the difference and dare to be different.🙌🙏💜
Exactly, he does not need a mother or a boss...He needs a helpmate, somebody to walk this walk with him in unity. A man having a solid relationship with God for ME helps me to determine what a man values, relies on and that he knows there's something higher than himself. Many treat God like the person you go to only when you NEED something, and we all know how we feel about being that person...He's a waymaker, not a genie at our disposal...Truth be told, if you are too busy to pray, and ask for direction, you are busier than God ever intended you to be...♥
Young guy on the left is so immature, he was difficult to listen to...I wonder where he would be if God felt about him, the way he feels about making time for God....OOOOH, the lessons that WILL come from his own words...God will not be mocked....
Cus it requires consistency and real soul work that’s why in order to build you have to be the best version of yourself that vibration brings abundance
The guy that spoke first on that couple and not having time for the Lord is something else. I want to respectfully say he is ignorant. I believe he needs to study a little more before he speaks on our past. There is a lot of detail he’s leaving out. We understand the agenda against us, but we are a spiritually broken people. Talk like his reminds me of why we are broken. The other brothers were on point. Real leaders. Thank y’all for your strength and honesty.
There is an attack on men and too many are so far gone from spiritualism that they won’t even understand the magnitude of that statement. However, I’m truly praying that these guys wake up in the name of Jesus‼️
Yes, and they need to leave homeboy on the left at home. If they have another discussion on this topic they should have a woman on the panel if they decide to have a 4th panelist.
Amazing podcast, I appreciate each person’s perspective on the topic, however unity and lifting each other up to win is the most important aspect in building a nation up. Appreciate all of you 🥰
Men and women,…be careful who is in your circle. When you have immature friends that you try to include in adult conversations, they show how weak your circle is with their responses. Sad,….
The prime example of a n:&&@ mind vs. the mindset of a Black Man... we are each responsible for what we add to our people and what we take from our people... when you know better you must do better...
We keep making excuses instead of coming to a solution … everyone can complain but reality is no one cares … either you are a solution or you’re a problem
Few points here. First, working together is based on the idea that you have similar values. Second, systemic indoctrination is a tough habit to break. From dirt poor to super rich, Lotta folks still believe white ice is colder. Third, they value of money. Lotta cultures are more than willing to say no to folks they don't wanna do business with. Finally, we don't hold our entrepreneurs to a higher standard of product.
Smoove’s comments were not thought out at all. His line of thinking about why men aren’t men is not the government’s fault. It’s just like Trill said. Men had pride in their selves and their family’s name. I’d even add that women back in the day held the men to a higher standard and the women also had respect for theirselves. Women today accept scraps to the bare minimum just to get a man’s time and/or attention
I treat people the way they present themselves. Act like a child, an ignoramus, a minstrel, a trollip, etc... Don't be mad when I address you as such and dismiss you out of my face and my entire life.
The "funny" dude needs to go somewhere. Red hat you were on point!! We all have the opportunity, STOP BEING LAZY!! STOP POINTING FINGERS TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY!!! Okay let me finish watching I just had to say that.
You know, I'm a minority business owner. Just started my business. I've had other black business owners(women) have Intel and information but chose to keep it themselves. We are so jealous of one another's success. The kicker, we're in two different industries🤦🏾♀️😥. I'm grateful for my brothers. They have been waaay more supportive, encouraging, and giving of their knowledge.
Umm India was colonized, and are more marginalized by economic inequality. Not a good example. Hispanics have pockets of racism as well. Example, Dominican Republic and Haiti.
Trill i love your open mind and the way you view rhings you are so awoke. Your mindset is mindblowing sometimes actly all the time. To look at every situation from all angles is unique.
That dude on the left shouldn't of been speaking so much. Listening to him was jarring as his points were off and a few of them incorrect. He was trying to push blame off on to others instead of accepting where men lack and it was 🥴 to watch. The guy with the red cap spoke so much truth and I applaud him on that - we need more of him ❤ because he honestly understands why women have given up hope and why as a community we are where we are. Most men today don't hold themselves or other men accountable for their actions, instead they encourage the opposite i.e being promiscuous, lazy etc. The community is lacking real role models that speak truth, love and light in to these men and that's also why the family structure isn't held as high as it once was. Everybody is about themselves and just a lot of ignorance is being shared, which is sad 💔 it doesn't propel us forward at all.
Bingo. He represented the large group of people who can recall all of the excuses and openly say its too late to do anything about it. Also, he cant be serious dor a few minutes while promoting laziness so nuch that he is too lazy to even pray! Whats sad is he had on a wedsing band...
Love the conversation! I will address this… Men or Kings in the Bible who had multiple women buuuuut it was not ordained by TMH (God). Man (mankind) began to do what they wanted. (which is why we “black” people are in the predicament we’re in today) As they did what they wanted oppose to what TMH (God) ordained, It also landed them into having so many issues being married to multiple women in those days even if they could afford it. 😊
🌹🙏 Krew; Thanks for absolutely speaking “Truth to Power”! It’s never too late to be the best you can be. The guy on the left have excuses; how is anyone going to move forward; when you are always looking in the rearview mirror? Nobody; can hold you back; but yourself. He doesn’t mind stepping on anyone else to get his. He’s so “SAD AND ANY WOMAN SHOULD RUN FROM HIM”!!!!!!!🙏🌹
You don't take time with God because you don't have a relationship. Because if you did, you wouldn't be saying "God...." If you don't want to serve God, just say so.
