Men whose ideas shaped India: Netaji, Swami Vivekananda & Savarkar | Arth - A Culture Fest, Delhi 

30 minutes discussion wasn't enough here, at least 2 hours was needed.

Nd I have huge respect for everyone on this pannel But the research done by vikram sampath on savarkar and by anuj dhar on netaji is fantastic

Makrand Paranjape voice and accent is so soothing to the ears. He can argue on any topic while sounding like a saint🙏.

Always lovely to see anuj sir and paranjape sir ❤️

Why was such an amazing panel given only 30mins? Wtf. They should have been given atleast 2 hours to give good insights. But kudos to Arth for organizing such a mind blowing fest

Love from Nepal 🇳🇵🇳🇵❤❤🇳🇵🇳🇵❤❤

21:00 : Although I agree that indeed the deeper issue currently is loss of capacity to think systematically, rationally and freely. However, its causes not mentioned. - If one could freely say their mind and rationally compare ideologies (e.g. Islam, Christianity), which say other schools of thought are illegitimate and deserve conversion or else possible death, they don't stand any chance in front of tradition of co-existence of multiple schools of philosophy and paths bundled as 'Hinduism' and Dharmic sub-traditions - If one could critically connect the historical dots, one would openly say these religions were almost entirely enforced and thrust upon the people of this subcontinent by the force of sword. And, everyone knows why no one would says this openly.... such a climate of fear has been created since centuries since Delhi Sultanate began, that many don't even realize it consciously

India will achieve it's freedom truly once it's speak in it's own language and apply it's own laws.

Now actually hindustan is in real light of his civilization.

Many unaware Indias best scientific university IISC, banglore was brain child of Swami Vivekananda, he share his vision with Jamshed ji TATA and convinced him to establish IISC. Through which IIT, ISRO, DRDO, ALL scientific innovation basis was founded 200 years by Swami Vivekananda. Shamelessly nehru and congress claimed as their contribution.

People who criticize thali bajao by Modi are the same who believe that only satyagraha or making salt gave us freedom🤣🤣🤣👌🏽

It's so much lovely to hear the real voices of India

Hats off Anuj Dhar..

Delighted to watch the discussion on such topics 🙏

Sir,Today the first day I watched ur two programs,excellent educative programs every one watch I believe.

Mr. Anuj Dhar is right. We need to aggressively put our narrative if we want systemic and pervading change.

Anuj Dhar 🙌🏽

I am very happy to see such wonderful panel. More such researchers we need.

Sadar parnam swami vivekanand netaji shubash and veer sawrkar u will remain always in our heart and mind vandematram

Very good conversation. Country needs this type of conversation to open the block mind of people in our country.

Happy to have such a great intellect feast🙏 thank you

Most fruitful programme.

Why there is a lot of noise around ? There should be noise cancellation while recording

Please add Veer to Savarkarji's name in the title.

30 minutes are very less for the panel like this It needs 2 to 3 hrs

Through out school days they taught us false history.😀

Very nice discussion. Such discussions should be on main stream medias and in hindi so that in large scale people would be benifited.

Indian government should declare Swami vivekananda's birthday as holyday (12th jan)

Thanksgiving informations abouts great peoples

The audience is talking with each other so much instead of listening these people🤦🏻‍♂️Cool Dude Youths🕺💃

Great 👏

Mr. Paranjpe playing Devil's Advocate perfectly here :D

Seems like Desai and Paranjpe vs Anuj Dhar and Sampath. Former two do not want to go against western ordained intellectual slavery in India and latter want to remove western slavery from Indian minds and become independent Indians who know their past and facts. Anuj Dhar is fantastic not only because of his great research on Bose but also because he recognizes people like Paranjape who want to deny Bose, Bhagat Singh, Savarkar. Great how he fought against Paranjape on this, need fighters today to keep history alive. Paranjape should know Indian youth have been taught Bhagat Singh was a terrorist in NCERT textbooks which they reject today. And this hasn't started 6yrs ago but this is a crises since decades with bad education system that taught distorted information. Not one paragraph is mentioned about Vivekanand or Savakar or Bhagat Singh in textbooks. It is easy to condemn Indian youth but what has he done as a professor to rectify education in his area apart from selling books and earning from it? Disappointed to see Paranjape speaking against India and for western intellectual slavery, he used to speak well but here he exposed himself. Sanjiv Sanyal is the one of the only few authentic historians today, rest are all book sellers.

Only 33 minutes discussion on the most towering figures in the history of India who are always neglected under particular and deliberate intentions . There should be more discussions adding two more personalities. Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar and Sardar Patel.

Guruji makarand ko pranam 🙏

Salute to bose and his anuj for occupying the rarely followed farthest seat

Unfortunately you have missed out the Personality who actually shaped the idea of India, Sri Aurobindo.

Makarand sir jai ho!

Damn this channel got all those topics which i want to know thanx to the org. to host this type if debates.

Netaji, Swamiji and Gurudev (Rabindranath) are the trio who mainly shaped modern Bharat. Good discussion. But very much incomplete without Gurudev. Very shocked not to see His name mentioned there.

Can you also do a panel on women who shaped India?

Anuj Dhar

these are some intellectual men..

Paranjape and Vikram are awesome

India gave those leaders to the world, they don't shaped India, India shaped them

Super point that I too really wished to acknowledge what Sri Makarand ji points out starting 18:54, reduction of a single bipolar picture is not a good idea and not true as well. Indian freedom struggle (the transfer of power from British) is much more complicated and intervined and very organically happened. Whether we like it or not there were so many misgivings that happened in the process for sure, like the partition. I support, the Anuj point for sure. The point is it really complex. Lack of critical thinking is the need.

Anuj Dhar ❤

Netaji,Veer Savarkar,Swami Vivekananda all are my fvrt but Sardar Patel is missing.

Loved to see this panel anuj dhar , panjpayee sir and vikram Sampath sir🎉🎉🎉

Didn't you guys get better background portrait

His erudition and eloquence notwithstanding, Professor Paranjape appeared to not decipher that being a researcher on Netaji, it was both of prudence and a natural course for Anuj Dhar to establish what led to our independence. He may well focus on the macro aspects of the progress of India as a country, but it is equally of significance to look into the micro aspects of our independence, which is exactly what Anuj was highlighting. To me, professor Paranjape's dismissive demeanour bespoke nothing but plain arrogance. Anuj was the most outspoken panelist. He voiced the angst of the people verbatim and did not disguise it in scholarly words. Vikram Sampath was also quite commendable.

Swami Vivekananda belong to Ramkrishna Mission sampradaya... HOo hoo....

Lord meghnad Desai they all are man...... 🙏👍👏👏

Have never found such panelists on India Today debates because they are sold out, more fest like these must happen and also in hindi to reach out to a larger audience.

I'm missing J Sai Deepak from the discussion, he would have rocked.

Love the intro music 😁

Brilliant discourse indeed. Bit concerned with the perspective of Dr Paranjpe alluding to middle path for truth, trivialising Atlee's specific answer denying credit to Gandhi and his seemingly pro Gandhi stance. Perhaps Dr P is brimming with knowledge that he needs more time to process.

Tribal people too contributed in freedom struggled

Subhash Chandra Bose and Many Freedom Fighter Are Real Heroes of Freedom of Bharat 🇮🇳

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25:30 👌

Only 33:44 was not enough............ 🙏

Social media gives equal opportunity to Good, Bad and Ugly. Good is still scarce commodity, however.

अनुज सर आपने मोदी का काम आसान कर दिया और क्रान्तिकारी को पहचान दे दी जो कांग्रेसियो और वामपंथीयो ने दबा दी थी।

When we talk abt Independence all credits were given to Gandhi & his movements I mean those clever Firangis ruling the nation for ~200 years, I don't see that as a point to leave India, behind that there might have other scenario we have Bhagat Singh, SC Bose's aggressive movement etc that might have given some impact on those Angrez. Unfortunately we haven't read much on the later mentioned above in our schools.

I tell you guys now take it from as warning if I write a single song like "Vir Swarkar " and/or you try to forget me I will haunt you as 👻 till end of time.

Makarand ji dhanya Hain aaaap

Their should be cc in Hindi for the benefit of nation

12:40

Markand ji is not correct in translation of second line of kathopanishad mantra.The क्षुरस्य धारा is only indicative of difficulties experienced in achieving the aim 'stopping not till aim is reached n it does not cut nor kill anyone.With due regards

Just one thing plz use veer savarkar

Godse was inspired from Savarkar but Godse himself said that had he told Savarkar the plan , Savarkar would have said no straightaway .

Hindustan zindabad,jai ho zee NEWSZZZ

Swami Vivekanand is definitely the one who shaped India and Indian. He was born in 1863. He for the first time define what and how Great Hinduism is and Indian philosophy is. Netaji himself was an ardent devotee of Swamiji Vivekananda's. Veer Sarvarkar was born in 1883. Three of them are great but they can't be put in same box or compared. Vivekananda shaped modern Hinduism and nationalism.

I think myself more closed to Professor Makarand Paranjape. Besides of trolling, we must find every and accept every sides.

Fine panel discussion with a no holds barred array of outrageous statements from some panelists. India needs to surely revise its history books and present a counter narrative to the one peddled by scores of crony historians on Congress party's payroll. Sadly, even this BJP Govt seems least interested in doing so.

Ambedkar was not a freedom fighter . Nor gave any idea for people fighting for freedom . Therefore he is not discussed .

The fact is that everybody should be given their due. It will be purely idiotic thinking to eulogize one freedom fighter and ignore others completely. Whosoever has contributed to freedom struggle or Reformation of society of that time should be given due respect whether it was subhash Bose, Sardaar patel, Ambedkar, Veer Savarkar, Azad, Bhagat singh, Gandhi, vivekanand Or other dignitaries. We need to recognize contribution from all dignitaries of the time.

East or west Dr. Subbu is the best.

It's not 1857 revolution.. It's 1817 Paika revolution in Odisha is the first war of independence

Makarand Paranjape.. truly objectively intellectual... others not so much..

अर्थ organisers please call sh Sai Deepak to explain colonialisation,colonalism n colonalialty.Then we can understand as to why foreigners define Idea of India.I can never agree with a narrative of India being sent,propagated from abroad n perpetuated by their brown foot soldiers in India.Just reading INDIA THAT'S BHARAT n is deeply illuminating

Left never wanted to listen growing voice of Bose, Vivekananda and the people who used to talk now because they knew/know Gandhi , Nehru will be expose. Gandhi : "If the Muslims want to kill us(Hindu) , we must face death bravely" 😠 People must read and know about fact of Mopala genocide. Dr. Ambedkar's book 'Partition of India': Gandhi never failed to condemn every incident of violence but Gandhiji never opposed these killings but he kept silence!🤔 You can easily understand his kindness.

I don't understand one thing and correct me if I'm wrong.. We can have tv debates over unnecessary topics such as Pakistan, Hindu-Muslim etc for the whole day and when it comes to have the discussion over sensible topic, we can't even get a 60-90 minutes show?

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Vivekananda, Rabindranath Tagore, Subhash Bose, Sardar Patel, Nehru and Gandhi were all India figures while Savarakar remained a provincial figure of Maharashtra. Savarkar's Hindutva made him communal figure just like Jinnah though both of whom had potential to be all India figures. BTW we shouldn't forget that Dadabahi Navroji, Sarojini Naidu, Lala Lajpat Rai, Tilak and Gokhale who were great contributors .

Swami Vivekanand envisioned that India could reclaim her glory by combining the two great systems: “Hinduism and Islam - Vedanta brain and Islam body"

Who is this Vivekananda they are talking about ? Are they referring to Swami Vivekamund ?

Swami Vivekananda is the greatest among them all. I am not saying this. Netaji and Savarkar ji themselves have said this. Om gurubhey namah.

Missing Dr. Ranganathan in this panel.

poor minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, great minds discuss ideas.

Do Indian need Lord any more? Only Maghnad Desai sound soothing to our ears.

Please invite Sadhguru

When you people are talking about India why not using indian language instead.

Anuj ji took no BS about Netaji and that's how it should be. We have been force fed a certain narrative because it suits the former colonial masters and later their slaves who ruled us. Yes talking about Netaji's death mystery is as important as to mainstreaming his idea and ideals of a modern India. He is the shining example of unconditional nationalism and that is what troubles many today. Savarkar ji is mocked today by people sitting in AC rooms about how he wrote a mercy petition to the British after serving 14 years in Kalapani let them survive that punishment and then speak for themselves. We have been taught a linear version of India's independence struggle with Gandhi as its face but was this version even a struggle? No accounts of British atrocities not even a slightest mentionnof personalities that paralleled that of Gandhi and Nehru. We need the alternate version of history to better understand ourselves and that is what people like VIKRAM SAMPATH, ANUJ DHAR , J SAI DEEPAK, MEENAKSHI JAIN and many others like them are doing....

Where is swami dayanand and he is very underrated and ideal for nationalism and fight of arya samaji for freedom People do not consider him bcz he is against islam and christinaty

Why don't you put Gandhi ji on the line of comparison

Our biggest challenge is mixing religion with politics. If religion gets the better of any idea in the nation then India is doomed. Religious leaders should not speak politics and politicians should not speak about religion.

Mr. Makarand said rightly about critical thinking, but, shouldn't we think also that we ourselves ax on our foot in past by not stopping damage of our Gurukuls, nalanda University, scriptures, real history and also temples.... Today, due to the damage in past, the current generation isn't aware about the real history and culture of bharat. They follow other culture and civilization but not Bharat's. How the bharat will became vishwaguru again. If most of the people are illiterate due to different education system which is so expensive. .... Think....

Looks like Lord Desai by saying we should say we have n-number of holly books and many God’s we r trying to portray our culture from one book and one god. He has indirectly criticise Gandhi and his shit “Ishwar allah tero Nama.........”.