Yes, yes, yes! I work as a Para in an Elementary School and these kids have no ability to learn or think or read without a screen. It's not healthy for kids to be on social media. Too many parents have no idea what their kids are doing online or on their phones. This is an excellent idea. Sadly, these kids will go through withdrawal symptoms similar to an addiction so be ready.
Glad I moved to Europe. Elementary kids don't have phones here. My kids didn't get a phone until 14 with the knowledge that they could only use them at lunch at school. And some high schools here are banning phones completely at school. Glad to hear that schools in the States are fighting back.
We should be punishing and blaming the parents for not caring enough about what their kids are doing online. Kids are dumb, they don’t know any better. But now we have stupid, lazy parents who spend the entire day on their own phones. They have no drive or care to actually parent their children
My senior year of high school, my math teacher took one of those classroom calculator holders, assigned us all a number, and made us put our phones in there for the entirety of class. I wish more teachers did that.
This is desperately needed in all school levels. Kids might need some socializing lessons. That silent lunch idea is terrible. My daughter went through that in middle school. I called the administration on that one. Kids need to talk to each other!
@@dennistucker9081 from another parents perspective, at my daughters school, it was done to alleviate the amount of fights that broke out during lunch. It was never permanent at her school. It was just done when necessary.
I went back to college at 27 trough 30 in 2015. I was in disbelief at the amount of people on their phones at break time not talking to each other. It’s a sad reality and I applaud this measure.
Dr. John, as a teacher, I am completely on your side with this issue. I will warn you, that as a former substitute in this school district, that I have seen the support and follow up by administration with policies. The Des Moines Public School system administration, from principals on up, completely bite wind. The kids in many of the buildings are off the chain with their behaviors, parental involvement is hard to determine, and the district administration doesn't support it's teachers or it's substitute teachers. If the Hoover principal is one of the rare gems, then I truly hope for his sake and the sake of everyone at Hoover that this works. I will be rooting for Hoover. However, I have no doubt whatsoever that if one tiny thing goes wrong, the district administration will have zero problems hanging the Hoover principal out to dry. This administration is well versed in doing this to it's people. Keep Hoover in your prayers!
I was the only one a lot in my life. It wasn't fun, but I wouldn't take it back. It made me stronger and more able to make decisions based on what I felt was important and right, over what everyone else may want to pressure me to do. Everyone should be "the only one" at least a few times in their lives.
Our school district just passed board policy that students K-8 cannot have phones, air pods, or smart watches at all during the school day. A complete ban! 9-12 students cannot have phones or ear buds during class periods. As a 7th grade teacher, I am anxious to see how this will play out, but I am 100% in support of it. The amount of discipline connected to social media and the total lack of attention is shocking and those not in schools daily have zero clue what phones have done to the learning environment. I am starting my 26th year of teaching and I am trying to be hopeful this can be turned around. ❤
Our school did this 2 years ago and it is FANTASTIC. 👏 And lunches did get loud, but they welcomed the communication there. I don’t think there was much pushback from the parents either. The policy is “Away for the Day” so off and in their backpack is ok.
SO glad I graduated HS in 2002 where we didn't have to deal with these distraction devices, I cannot imagine how having a phone would of been back then
Although cell phones have saved lives, yada yada, I get it. There have been more lives lost due to many situations where a person was distracted by their cell phone at a critical moment. Loss of face to face social skills have been eroding, replaced with electronics. It's not just children, it's people of all ages acting irresponsibly with cell phones & other electronic distractions.
My school did the same and I found that teachers had more troubles actually not looking at their phone in class. I used to always listen to music in class but after this year I realized how much of a distraction it was.
Parents have got into the habit of being able to contact their kids at any instant in time, even during class time. It might take some adjustment for them when they realise they no longer can.
My daughter doesnt take hers in class but brings it to school . I need to know shes safe when she goes out n that inncase of émergency she can call 911
The province of Alberta (Canada) will ban cell phones for children in schools from kindergarten to grade twelve. Beginning September. A very good idea. Bullying has been seen to decrease and increase grades. In schools that already do this.
Our school has been cell phone free for 10 years. My kids are currently on a 4-day trip with their school without cell phones. Let me tell you: YOUR KIDS WILL SURVIVE!!
Early on in cellphones for adults, in a psych ward we had purpose built shelves behind the nursing station, where phones were placed by room number on each little step of the shelf. All turned off. But this way all the phone addicts could see their phones were safe, present, and yet not in reach. Out of sight pushed them over the edge. Privileges earned might be a 10 minute cell phone call. You could see the patients after 2 dw6s stop rushingbyo see their phone as they detoxed from it being an essential. I did see some classrooms using similar stands for holding student phones during class. But then they started using tablets at desk, compounding the issue.
Kids recording fights at our school get the same punishment as people who are in the fight. That rule was enforced so kids aren't doing it anymore. People who stand by and record make bad situations worse. instead people should help people.
I never understood why a phone was a child's toy. I never let a child "play" with my cell phone. Its ridiculous. No child NEEDS an iPad or a cell phone.
Our kids got a phone in Jr High, but this was before phones were computers. Call and text. That's it. And they didn't have a desire to look at it until after school to find out what the family plan was for that afternoon. Now they are in their 30's, and they see the trauma that hand-held computers can cause.
In middle school, the principal would have silent lunches if we got to loud, which I hated because A. I hate smacking and any annoying sounds, B. Because it cut off social interaction, and C. Because it started mockery of sign language. I have a family member who is deaf and this drove me up the wall. Kids would make fake signs and mock it actually they are deaf/and or mute. (Which technically according to the principle, they were mute) The idea of silent lunches just don’t work.
I was in high school in the early 2000’s when most folks had phones by that time. I remember getting detention for using my phone. I always thought it was so dumb. I think kids should have phones in school, but maybe not be able to use them until after school. They must be in lockers or given to teacher at beginning of school day or something. The world is dangerous now a days, I would feel much more comfortable knowing I can reach my child. I remember there was a gun prank at the middle school near me and the parents were able to text their kids to see what was going on. I couldn’t imagine not having access to my child. Technology has ups and downs and we just need to learn to a balance it. Maybe more education and classes on how to balance it for adults and their children. Parents are addicted too
I hate cell phones. If people need to reach me they can leave a message on my answering machine at home, call my work if it is an emergency etc. I carry my phone but it is on Drive mode for everyone’s safety. I loved growing up without it. I have lost a lot of my social skills due to texting. I liking talking on the phone to people. No reading anything out of context like texting.
I’m 28, and I swear we were never allowed phones in school, you got some sort of trouble. Maybe I remember wrong. Smartphones were fairly new at the time, iPhone came out when I was in 7th grade
There are 2 major downsides that I can foresee being solvable if all classrooms can be recorded and accessible at any point by the students or their parents (or better yet, homeschooling your children): 1. cell phone use has exposed a lot of abuse in the classroom that would have gone completely ignored if these kids lived in a different era. This includes things like the teacher with the fake z cup prosthetic and mini skirts, secret closets for children to change in, teachers who target and bully kids due to race or disability, etc. Teachers like this need to be held accountable and fired, and sadly no one believes children without audio/video evidence. 2. Some children with a disability can be helped significantly with the ability to record a classroom. Being able to hear/see the lecture twice or repeat parts of the lecture can help struggling kids.
I wanna provide some insight on this from a country where there are multiple state-wide bans on phones in schools. I'm no longer in school myself, but I've heard a lot of what's gone on since the ban from my siblings. First of all, it doesn't work. Most teachers don't really care to check that the students have locked their phones away, and students are sneaky enough that they put other objects in their phone pouches, or learn how to crack the locks. What it does do tho is significantly reduce phone usage in class compared to any other solution I saw when I was in school, which I think is the main thing here. Secondly, in schools that do not have the funding to implement a PA system, it makes communication between student and parent an absolute fucking nightmare. Need to pick up your kid early or inform them of an emergency? Good luck finding them. God forbid they've moved classrooms for some reason or another. Thirdly, I absolutely disagree with the headphone ban (it doesn't exist here, students are allowed to connect to laptops or mp3 players. Headphones are part of their required equipment for some activities). There are a lot of kids for whom music helps concentration and reduces distractions. And it helps neurodivergent kids cope with various sensory issues. I personally don't think I would've graduated if I couldn't use headphones to get through my day at school due to my noise sensory issues. "Just get an exemption", I hear you ask, but it's not that simple for kids who don't have access to a diagnosis due to parents or financial reasons. Not to mention it is perceived as unfair by other kids :/
You bring up some good points. We have to look at exceptions and alternatives for special needs. But overall, we need to start this. In what country do you live?
I had to do this a couple times as a kid -- you'd go to the office, ask to use the private phone away from the halls and classrooms. If you didn't need that much privacy, there was a pay phone near the cafeteria.
Then the kids won’t be able to record it 🤷🏻♀️ the adults still have access to their phones, not to mention the school landline. Communication won’t be cut off.
The book bannings across the country, really should've been THIS, the phones! A child with a literal book in hand was the outcome we always wanted instead of technology.
Our local Christian school does this. The public schools slmost require devices with apps for grading scheduling, notifications, etc. Remember paper planners and posted grades! Good ole days...
Let’s advocate for abolishing compulsory schooling. Then we can watch parents freak out when they actually have to parent. Daycares and schools are enabling uninvolved parents.
For those parents on here who complain that this negatively affects their child’s mental health (fear of no contact in case of school shooting!); Well, I say our next common sense stance is COLLECTIVELY about this country’s bizarre beliefs about extremely dangerous weapons in the hands of every idiot out there. Semi-automatics? Bump-stocks? OUTLAW BOTH. Background checks? FOR EVERY CHANGE OF HANDS. Mental-health & domestic violence prohibitions? YUP. Not perfect, but these would sure help.
Why can't people talk to their kids about their day when kids get home.Parents don't need to know every time little Johnny gets upset because somebody cut the lunch line.
Our New Zealand law is that no cellphones are allowed to be used during school time for all schooling years. It’s great. For contact needed with home etc during school hours students use free school office phone. First time commenting ever! Great content on this show. Love from NZ ☺️
what if a student uses an iphone for continuous glucose monitoring? that’s for diabetes. it’s called a dexcom G7. not monitoring blood sugar levels in a type 1 diabetic is life threatening.
what if your kid had type 1 diabetes and required a continuous glucose monitoring system, to monitor his blood sugar? those require an iphone to monitor his blood sugar levels. it’s called the dexcom G7 monitoring system.
@@rochelle-xz8gl The "what ifs" are endless. There will always be outlying reasons like that, medical exemptions with proof are understandable. What if theres an emergency (all the adults have phones, etc), what if there is a family emergency (call the office, find the kid), what if there is a national emergency.. active shooter.. endless what ifs.
Been watching it at my 14yo's school. He just got his first phone, but I deactivate it during school hours (except emergency calls). EVERY other kid, is on a chromebook and/or phone at least 95% of the time
Please know that not all of us parents blame teachers. We love our public school system and the teachers in it ❤ Thank you for being there for our kids!
As an elementary educator for 25 years I agree with you! I’ve been saying this to people at my school for at least 10 years now but have been ignored and dismissed. Then we’re blamed for low state test scores and poor classroom performance. On top of that, we have to begin intervention instruction for those “struggling“ students. They’re not struggling. They’re addicted. Parents, do your job.
The public schools where I live implemented no cell phone policy last September. They have pouches to put cell phone in and it locks. At end of day, a fob type key unlocks the pouch as kids are leaving. Everyone made it through the year.
Our school middle is piloting the pouches for the school district. Can you share if they were easy to use? Any obvious pros or cons you can share before we begin this fall?
@@emilylintott2413 what if a student has type 1 diabetes and uses a continuous monitoring system that is connected to a pump? that is called dexcom G7 and requires an iphone to monitor their blood sugar.
Students with 504 plans for medical conditions such as diabetes will have free access to their phones at any time per our district's policy. It is not a blanket policy and does make exceptions for certain situations.
I went to school in the 80's. Obviously no cell phones then. Life was WAY better. Kids learned to interact with each other and teachers. Kids do not need cell phones. They have become a huge addiction and problem. If there is a problem at your kids school, administration and law enforcement will handle it. However rare that may be. Let your kids be kids. Give them life skills without a cell phone..
I have grown up in the same era, and didn’t learn to interact with others in any meaningful way … phone or social media or not … so can not judge whether it was better or not
Imagine in the old days: In every classroom there is a phone jack and a telephone plugged in at every student’s desk. That is very similar to what we have had with cell phones in recent years.
Kids nowadays need phones for sécurité purposes. My daughter cannot go out without it cuz i need to be able to know where she is n if shes oknat all times
This is a great move ... the question is when we adults (who are being watched by those kids) will do the same thing, and start putting the phones away instead of having them in our hands all the time. There may be nothing more depressing than watching a couple in a restaurant, sitting across from each other, silent, each one absorbed in their phones.
I just retired after thirty-two years of teaching middle school, and I agree with you that teachers need to model the proper behavior. Too often I saw teachers -- good teachers - checking their messages in the hallway.
Graduated in 2k12 and this was the norm then not sure when it changed, but if you got caught with your phone you had two choices. 1 give administration you phone until Friday with 3 days in school suspension. 2 keep your phone and get 3 days out of school suspension.
That’s not true my daughter takes her phone she turns her phone off and doesn’t turn back on unless something bad happens or she on the bus to go home and she still gets great grades my daughter has extreme anxiety because of the lack of congress actions on school shootings he gotta do shootings drills all the time I think you want do do some about their fracking their mental health do something about that our school don’t even tell parents when their a shooter on campus so how we know our child is in danger or if goddess forbid one of shot and we didn’t get to comfort or help them in some way these are already terrified these just going to school afraid is today the day we will have a shooter is today the day we die they live in fracking fear all because the so called grownups can’t act like grownups too afraid someone might be inclusive oh no universe forbid someone a child is excepted for who they are are that we allow them to read a real history book my child is a special needs children who suffers from a lot of anxiety over people who she loved died at very early age she follows the rules about her phone I can’t even call her for emergency at school cause her phone is off I have go through the school phone line her emotions support animal not allowed so if that phone helps her keeps from her episode that the school got so used to calling me everyday how do we help what do we do stop taking shot away that makes feel the tiny bit safe it’s like y’all want kids to live in fear as someone who grew up in constant fear her whole life not a way for children to live I grew with suicidal thoughts as my constant norm I was so tired all the time for being scared I finally found a place in the woods I felt safe I sleep their only place I could sleep children no children should have to live that but they do cause republicans to busy playing fracking dictator then caring about our children I am sick and I cracking g tired of y’all banning everything you can’t control
@@judymyers9867 how you gonna call me liar about something I went trough more then 10 years ago 🤡 my comment was in no way political. So why grift here 🤦🏽♂️
THIS! I have a 15 year old, he does not have a phone, only the school issued notebook. He is very addicted to it. He's messaging, playing games, going online for hours and would be on it all night if we didn't have him shut it down and turn it in. We have caught him sneaking it in the middle of the night. Says it's homework and everything is locked inside and only he has access. This notebook is now home with us for the summer...also his high school is cashless so where does that come into play?
Honestly i feel like the parents will bug out and scream how dare you tell my child what to do. Sadly i think as much as we think kids are different nowadays, the parents are the culprits because theyre worse. There’s so many stories of young kids doing “bad things” in large masses now (i.e., sephora kids lol) but who is responsible? It’s obviously the parent who allows such behavior in a child to flourish and exist in the first place.
As an adult, I can see firsthand how social media has affected my attention span. I literally feel like I’ve developed ADD. I can only imagine how it’s affecting our youth and their ability to learn.
I am 30 years old and realizing I may have been dealing with ADHD for years. I was using social media in the beginning of myspace and then Facebook. I’ve been doing this for at least 15 years !
I can tell something is going on because none of these kids have social skills… not sure if others are noticing the same? I recently had some contractors come over to do work inside my home and two younger kids were helping. There was a noticeable difference is how they engaged with me vs the rest of the workers. It came off as very rude. I even noticed it with hair stylists now who are younger, a job which typically requires good people skills. I had a young trainee stylist and she didn’t smile or engage with me at all during the one hour service. I typically don’t mind people not talking to me as I’m introverted so I like the quiet but I felt very awkward and uncomfortable in this particular session because I’m used to people, especially hair stylists, engaging a little more, especially at the start of the service. My friend who is a teacher told me that she is noticing the lack of social skills in younger people as well. It’s not all of them but a general trend.
Covid could have been a contributing factor as well. Also, I heard there's a trend with hair dressers where they are asking customers if they want silent service or not, because some people these days don't like to make awkward small-talk with their haircuts. It's kind of weird, but I guess if that works for people, why not? It's just strange that they're doing the silent service without asking you first, and that may be because of what you said, a few young kids are lacking social skills lately. Hopefully, that changes soon.
@@emilysragz Yeah, covid could definitely be a factor. Some of these kids had to do remote college which is a huge detriment to independence and growth for a young person. And yes, I have had some stylists ask me before if I preferred conversation or quiet. I usually tell them I like to just zone out when someone is doing my hair (it makes me sleepy) and they’ve always been respectful but this young girl didn’t engage at all, it was very weird for me. It does come off as rude but I try not to be judgmental and just tell myself they are shy or maybe they are having a bad day or something. I wouldn’t normally care but it stands out more in a field where the nature of the job requires people skills…
When I point this out to young people in comment sections they don’t know what I’m talking about. Being raised entirely on social media they don’t understand that you have to actually speak to people in person in order to make friends and acquaintances. They think going up to someone and talking is “cringe”. It will be interesting to see how this plays out as they age into adulthood and beyond.
I have school age kids now (one a senior in high school, the other 6th grade) and they have always been allowed cell phones. And snacks. And drinks. And gum. Hardly anyone had cell phones for the majority of my education, until latter high school years. But we weren't allowed to do any of these things.
@@ivankrushensky seems like there were never really hard rules in place, just my guess. It's become more of a normal thing. I have a 5y.o. myself and would love to see better rules in place before she gets to the cell phone age.
Obviously a good concept. However, as an educator in another country where we have those regulations in our schools, they can be almost impossible to enforce. I am less interested in the policy and more interested in the behaviour management plan.
@@miketheyunggod2534 We are not allowed to touch kids. You would be fired instantly. You cannot grab a phone out of a kid's hand and they generally refuse to hand them over. If you send them to the Principal for refusing to put the phone away the Principal is often too busy to deal with it and they get sent back to class, and then they use the phone openly and proudly and you have to decide if you want to spend the next 15 minutes of the class enforcing the policy or if you want to get on with teaching the kids who actually want to learn. Kids spend so much time jut sitting in class watching teachers deal with one or two disengaged troubled kids. It's sad.
It’s easy enough when the rules are enforced across the board and then…. educators can try being engaging again. Stop enforcing, give them what they naturally want and need- attention so their curiosity blooms. Yeah. It will be hard if you expect them to sit on their hands at their desk memorizing the answers to test questions all day. But that’s a sick dictators dream.
We are doing this in our district next school year... done at some MS with success. After the principal spoke with various school groups this year, the decision was made. Will support this as a parent of two (who won't have phones until they are farther along in HS, we are looking to get a home phone though, retro!) and a staff member. Hoping for the best for all our youth, parents, and educators!!!
Phones I get, but headphones got me through trauma-based problems and difficulties I had in school. I don't like a ban without a significant improvement of actual provision of mental health support. I went to one of the top public school systems in the US and was put in support groups from 8-13yrs and I had wildly inadequate care. The social anxiousness wouldn't be for a bit for those who are trying to cope with deeper traumas. Any time they take away access to a coping skill, it is their job to ensure they implement enough to meet the needa of their students and I don't hear that happening.
School can’t do everything for you. It’s also up to parents to get their kids mental health care. If you need to wear headphones to get through life, that is a problem in itself. Not a coping skill.
I agree to a point but please think about those children that struggle with disabilities. My daughter has autism, she NEEDED earbuds when the class room noise levels got to loud for her, overwhelming her! Also the amount of times I was able to talk her down off the edge of a panic attack as she could call me! Getting help from the teachers and school admin just added to her stress levels! In all situations there is going to be a "yes".... but.
There were no cell phones when I was in school and I don't have kids, but it blows my mind that phones were ever allowed into the schools. How did they think it would play out?
Hey, guess what, kids? In the 90's when I was in school, we didn't have phones at all. They didn't exist, and the ones that did were for phone calls only. We actually had to talk to each other. We need to get back to this. I believe Los Angeles is also looking to do this. I couldn't agree more. I'm glad schools are finally taking a stand.
I agree in principle but it’s not a great decision . Schools are unkept; the students are violent and have no consequences and the teachers are out of control, also having zero accountability. Kids needs these phones to be able to call the police or a safe adult. We’ll see how this plays out.
I agree 100% with this, we need our kids to focus in school, also we need to get the LGBT agenda out of the schools. There should be no LGBT flags or talks about genders, we need to teach our kids math and science not about transitioning to other sex.
Listening the first two minutes as a millenial: "Ah, so basically our casual school day." For real, it's good how millenials got into mobile phones and Internet "more naturally" as Teens, and when we were kids, stuff was rare, limited and expensive even for adults. For the younger Generations, mobile phone usage from year 1 as babies got a bit fatal. I actually wish, every school has phone limitations, and you can only turn it on during emergencies.
Glad I grew up before the internet was invented and had to learn to navigate people directly. Didn't stop a diagnosis of ADD as an adult but i have great research skills and prefer real books. 🇦🇺💜🇺🇲💚👍
Every year at work, each intern or new person straight out of college lacks in personal social skills. My current new employee that sits 3 feet from me and the rest of the team would rather send an instant message to talk to the team rather than open his mouth.
If your child has a phone that's YOUR fault! No child needs a phone. I graduated high school twenty years ago and didn't own a cell phone until I was able to pay for one.
@jennifersilves4195 Your comment was directed at schools being safer. Now, you're saying individuals. Can you point to any evidence that suggests students who have their phones on them at all times are safer?
It amazes me what is allowed throughout the school day anymore. I have school-age kids and they're allowed to have snacks, drinks, cell phones, etc. And hardly any homework. Things can be turned in late for full credit. This is no preparation for life. You need to show up on time (work, social events, etc), put the sandwiches and phones away. There's a time and place for everything. Then they wonder why they are all depressed.
The most relaxed I see students is on testing days. They talk, they laugh, and they play games with each other during the breaks because ALL TEACHERS take phones away for test administration. The dynamic between students is connected through humanity rather than technology. They look at each other in the other person's eyes, and they see and notice one another. It's a huge shift. Impacts on learning would change for the better as well. Right now, students are looking to their phones to tell them what to think and how to feel, rather than learning how to think and feel for themselves, as well as listen to their bodies. We need to get rid of phones and bring back more classes in the arts, physical education, and in the trades. What happened to shop and home ec? These are outlets for stress and help provide emotional regulation and positive outlets for feelings much better than sitting in any seminar about social/emotional learning ever will.
Why are cell phones allowed in any classroom during school instruction? There’s zero evidence that these children need to have cell phones with them during class. If the school administrators don’t care then they are the problem and every single school in the US must have a ban of cell phones in class for all grades. Why is this not happening? On right, money talks and the companies making money on these kids having phones in the classroom are the problem
Saying you ban them is one thing, but doing it is a whole other thing. Ive seen kids scream yell and fight over a teacher or admin trying to take their phone. Ive seen parents come down to school wanting to fight and cuss out the teacher or admin who took away the phone and threatening to sue them if it happens again. After a few months of telling scanning the room every few minutes for electronic devices, telling them to put it away or trying to take it away its not worth time suck, hassle, disruptive behavior in class and fallout later in the day with the parent or unsupportive admin team. Unless security searches and confiscates at the door it won't work. When a parent brings a lawyer to a parent teacher conference over a phone and says ill personally sue you and have your license you have to decide if its worth the price. Its great to charge teachers with this Dr John, but it ain't your career and or financial security on the line....its ours.
