Meon Valley Line - Episode 4 - Churchill's Railway

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Its the 8th December 2018 and once again we have underestimated the short days! We decided to have a look at three lines today which were to include, the Bishops Waltham Branch, The Meon Valley Line and the Basingstoke and Alton Light Valley.
Welcome to Episode 4 of #EveryDisusedStation You can visit the website for progress and information about our adventure. www.paulwhitewick.co.uk
Paul and Rebecca have decided to embark upon and rather silly challenge which will hopefully see them visit all 6800 (approx. figure) disused stations in the UK. As always the criteria being that we get as close as possible without a) Trespassing and b) endangering ourselves or others. Stations do include those that are in use as heritage lines. (of course they are no longer disused but in the sense of a mainline passenger station, they are certainly on our list).
NB: Loo app: "Where is Public Toilet".

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@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS 5 лет назад

What a fantastic couple you are. I love you both. Your presentations are out of ths world and really make me feel so good as well as making me laugh. I'm 82 years and live on my own now as my lady iis in care home with dementia. you bring great joy to my life. thank you

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Thanks Keith. Really pleased you are enjoying the videos. I hope June is in the best place she can be with her condition, so sorry to hear this. We enjoy your lovely videos too, so keep them coming.

@martyncarroll5035 2 года назад

The tunnel that was alarmed was brought by a farmer when the line closed in February 1955 for growing mushrooms the line was constructed for double track as when you go down the a32 and turn left at west neon on to the a272 the road goes under the railway line the line was opened in 1903 and closed on Monday 7 February 1955 the last train ran on Monday 5 August in 1968 between Farringdon and Alton privet station did have a swimming pool between the two platforms and Droxford station was I think used by road haulage company but this was back in 1975 The Basingstoke to Alton line was opened in 1901 and closed in January 1927 it reopened in august 1917 and closed to passengers on 12 September 1924 for passengers and freight in 1936 Cliddesden was used in the that classic Film oh mr porter as buggleskelly Dave o’toole the postman in the film Says to will hay your wasting your time Will hay say’s to harbottle is he a relation of yours To harbottle replies no but we both go out with the same girl The film is on you tube

@charleswheeler3418 3 года назад

Hey guys, I'm from Winchester. I moved to London over 8yrs ago, and then to Vietnam almost 4yrs ago. I just recently have been yearning a little to hear and see some of the simple small things in the countryside there, the bird sounds and the lovely weather and the walks. Thanks so much for what you do! i stumbled across this channel just at the right time :) Oh, and it's so great to see such lovely people from near my home town!

@RevZolution 3 года назад

Great channel guys, this is my area. If you walk or cycle from wickham it's a 10 mile route on the old track up to the old bridge which has been demolished. This then leads to the tunnel where Churchills train hid them during WW2

@ross.venner 3 года назад

I grew up in Fareham and vividly recall the emotions associated with the departure of the last train on the line. That was before Beeching.

@paulkandi 5 лет назад

Could watch your videos all day..! 😊 modern approach to the discovery of our lost railways, feel a touch of sadness 😥at the immense destruction of our heritage, great music too..🎼🎶 carry on the great work.!!👍

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Cheers Paul. Much appreciated

@PrinceJohn84 5 лет назад

The bridge you guys visited at 18:00 was actually used in one of the Cadburys Milk Tray adverts, the infamous Milk Tray man jumping onto the roof of a moving train from the road above. There was a video snip on RU-vid somewhere. Sure it'll turn up with a bit of digging 🙂

@ScienceChap 3 года назад

Meon Valley is a lovely walk... theres lots of fantastic relucs lying around. You also ought to look at the old Military Road railway station in Gosport and the line down from Fareham to Gosport.

@johnbrewer6991 4 года назад

Great video. FYI, the crossing gates at Bishops Waltham are reproduction as suspected by Rebecca but the track is not original. It was added in the late 1980s or early 1990s - I helped to lay it!

@andyknight1 4 года назад

Only came across your channel today. Very interesting, and this is in my local area.

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Welcome Andy. Get binge watching.... 😁

@HenrysAdventures 5 лет назад

Another great video! I've seen the stub of the Bishops Waltham Line from passing trains a couple of times time.

@ChilledGamerUK 2 года назад

Found your channel by seeing you on Geoff on Old London Lines. Pre-C19, Droxford station would open up once a year for you to walk around, the owner recently sold it for £1.5M (if I recall), he was a lawyer and a railway enthusiast. His plans were to lay track and purchase the remaining northern section of the platforms but HCC said no as they wanted a bit of it for walkers. I'm not sure who the new owners are and if they'll do any future open days. HCC have filled in Wickham station, however, the platform edges are aligned, roughly to the edge of the bridge. If you take a little garden trowel with you, if you scrape off an inch or so of dirt, you'll see the remains of the platform edge, mostly the north bound side. HCC were given funding to put a new trail down, cut the trees back and make everything look nice, which they did some 8 years or so ago. Since then, it has been left to over grow... Again! Which hides a lot of its gems, including (at West Meon) the waiting room tiles, gents toilets drains, (up and down the line that old signal posts), Wickham and West Meon water towers, which was linked to the near by river Meon to save on using mains water. Knowle halt will not be reopening as part of the Welbourne Estate, instead a new station called Welbourne will be built further south. This is due to limited space at the current Knowle location to create a mainline station. I was one of the people who tried to get the line reopened back in 2013 as a heritage railway, hence knowing a lot about the line and what remains, which is still a lot of things to find along the route.

@geoffhobbs5287 5 лет назад

Great video , The site of Bishops waltham station is located where the roundabout is and along the road opposite side to where those gates are . The platforms at Wickham are right next to the car park , they've been filled for over 30 yrs , they were filled in when I made my First trip which was in the late 1980's. Droxford , you can access the trackbed by going under the bridge opposite the Hurdles pub then take the little track on the left , you access via the old goods yard , better to leave your car at the Hurdles as you can't park in that little road , It's well worth having a look at that side of the station . Until recently , the owners used t open the gardens once a year for charity which I sadly missed as by the time I'd found out , they'd held the final One .

@adventussaxonum448 Год назад

Grew up in Fareham. Used to go collecting conkers around Knowle hospital (we used to call it Funtley Knowle). Used to swim in the Meon, behind the Fisherman's Rest in Titchfield.

@greatbritishentertainmentl5636 4 года назад

Just caught up with your end of 2018 trip finding Farringdon Halt - fascinating as ever!

@gwrdownunder2198 5 лет назад

Awesome, keep up the good work. cheers Richard

@simonthorn2690 3 года назад

I've only recently discovered you but am addict already. I know this old line well, having walked or cycled it over the years. One bit you missed out was the site of the viaduct at West Mean, just north of the station. It was a steel structure, almost a mini version of Meldon on Dartmoor, so only the concrete plinths are left.

@aaronhall4741 3 года назад

loving your work , great to watch .

@maxdefrost1036 2 года назад

Hi guys, just seen this video and loved it so my comment is a bit 3 years 'after the fact' but as an addition to the comments already here, some more info... The Knowle Halt bit you showed was actually the Knowle Asylum Hospital siding. Knowle Halt platform was actually sited about approx 100 meters ahead of where you were parked ( through the gate and up on the left hand side ) next to the track. You can't see it from where you were - the platform supports are still there but covered in foliage. It would also mean a walk along the track to see it properly but if you're quick, you can get a view from the train window. The space between the platforms at Wickham has been filled in. You can still see the platform edging stones in the mud and on the right side, you can still see the tiles from the waiting shelter floor amongst all the undergrowth. Also, you were really close to the southern portal of Privett tunnel. If you'd followed the actual road up, there's a dirt track that leads off which goes down to the cutting and onto the portal. Still very much there and ( was) owned by a builder before the Nike BMX course was built in there. Love your videos. Keep up the good work.

@lilchris26 3 года назад

Hi there you too I am catching up with your videos in these horrible times and I really enjoy watching. I found you two when watching Martin Zero so you can blame him. Keep up the good work you are a fantastic couple just love your videos you are doing a fantastic job documenting these bygone stations etc. Keep Safe. Chris.

@mentallyhill 3 года назад

Worth looking at Droxford Sidings. Bit of a platform there and an amazing story to read. Btw the West Mean tunnels used to be open. Very dark and spooky though.

@Johlibaptist 4 года назад

Thanks for sharing a very entertaining video.

@PodgyAsthmatic 5 лет назад

Another great one guys. Thanks.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Thank you Lord Hiscock!

@EandEFC 5 лет назад

Having walked all these lines great to see it all again remember Durley halt being very wet with a stream running through as you found, but also found a lot more of the old station and fence along the path Happy Days

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Cheers Mr Horely FC. Yup we are a tad careful not to explore too much off the path ways and then post it in a video 😬😉

@christhepharmacist 5 лет назад

Top b roll - love it!

@jozg44 5 лет назад

I grew up in the Meon Valley and spent a long time walking along and round the MVR and the Bishop's Waltham branch (and spent a summer weekend trying to trace what I could of the Basingstoke & Alton Light Railway!) so I very much enjoyed this video - well made, well presented and it was good to see some old 'haunts' again - haven't been down that way for six years. I actually did a project on West Meon Station as part of an industrial archaeology course, which involved surveying and photographing the entire site and clearing away, measuring, photographing and drawing the remaining features (mostly the cattle pen remains and the tiled waiting room floor). You said that you like it when they leave things 'just as they were' - I can say that eight years ago it was much more jungle-like there - that platform which is now nicely grassed over with tables on had massive trees all the way along it and very dense undergrowth. I knew from my cooperation with the council over the project that they were planning to do some clearance work but I didn't know it would be so extensive - with all the resurfacing work they've since done on the ex-trackbed as well you could almost believe they're getting ready to re-lay the rails! Sadly not...

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Thanks Jack. We love stations like this. Yup clearing back is better in this case, if that makes sense. Have you seen our video on the Basinstoke / Alton line?

@jozg44 5 лет назад

@@pwhitewick I have now! You had better success than I did in finding remains here and there. I've watched your videos on the DN&SR, the Fullerton Junction line and the M&SWJR too - I've trekked around/along those in the past as well and very much enjoyed watching your journeys. After I found the original DN&SR survey maps in the county record office I even traced what I could of the never-built Winchester-Southampton section, as well as the few remains of the work started at the Southampton end, trying to imagine what it would have been like if the line had actually been built through. There's a whole new strand - not Disused Stations, but Stations That Never Existed!

@simontay4851 5 лет назад

The track should be relayed. Would it be well used if it was rebuilt and are there any obstructions along the route?

@jozg44 5 лет назад

@@simontay4851 As much as I'd like to see it in a fantasy sense, there really isn't much of a case for reopening the MVR - there was never really much of a case for it being built in the first place! The villages it connects still aren't very big and there isn't much in the way of commuter traffic from them to either of the towns that were at either end. The A32 road which parallels the route of the railway is not in any way busy. As for obstructions, south of West Meon the formation is essentially intact because it's been maintained as a bridleway. Immediately north of West Meon there's a gap where a large viaduct crossed over the River Meon. North of West Meon tunnel there's a cutting that has been backfilled, as has the one between Privett tunnel and Privett station. There are several missing bridges between Privett and Tisted, and about 1.5 miles of trackbed south of Tisted, which used to be embankment, has been completely levelled and returned to farmland. North of Tisted station there are houses on the formation. There's another missing bridge at Farringdon, plus an industrial estate around and along the former line and station site. The really insurmountable obstacle is that where the MVR joined what is now the Watercress Line, just southwest of Alton, the entire trackbed and formation has been destroyed by the building of a large roundabout between the A32 and the A31 plus a big section of the A31 Alton bypass itself. That would require major re-engineering, or an entirely new railway formation, if you were to try and reinstate that connection. The real loss was not the MBR itself, but the older line that the MVR plugged into at Fareham, which was the line into Gosport. The Gosport peninsula is now badly overcrowded and subject to virtually continuous traffic jams along the A32 which is the only vaguely high-capacity road in and out. The old Fareham-Gosport railbed has been converted to a busway after a proposal to reinstate it as a light rail project collapsed. In practical terms, I think the only viable way of bringing trains back to part of the MVR would be to build that light rail project from Gosport, up to Fareham, through a reinstated Knowle Halt (the ex-psychiatric hospital is now a housing development with 1500+ people in it and there is a serious lack of public transport there) and up to Wickham, which is something of a dormitory village for Gosport/Fareham/Portsmouth.

@ISLEOFWIGHTARCHIVE 5 лет назад

at 18:30 was the old goods yard at farringdon on the industrial estate. it has an accessible right of way.to the left of the motorcycle dealership on the main road. the actual farringdon halt is almost out of the village on the A32 Farnham bound.its all been cleared but you may spot the odd stray railway sleeper. this also has a public right of way through it on a small industrial complex.

@johnlaw3323 4 года назад

Great vlog very interesting many thanks.

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Thanks John.

@barrythedieselelectricstea5217 3 года назад

another excellent video👍 you really try to find parts of these disused railways can't believe there is so many that was once working

@paulrossiter8685 2 года назад

Love you two. Such a lovely natural rapport. Not sure if you have covered the stretch from Lower Farringdon to East Tisted, it is a short 2.5km stretch marked by a bridle path. It includes a cutting through woodland.

@lionelmarytravels6003 3 года назад

That tunnel nearest West Meon was used for mushroom growing. The goods sidings and station entrance at West Meon were on the west side at the southern end of the platform. I traveled on that line many times in the 50s.

@Blade_Daddy Год назад

😊 love you both - what a good couple.

@Sim0nTrains 5 лет назад

Great video, Really enjoyed West Meon's visit

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Cheers Simon. Twas a lovely area to explore.

@OTWD_yt 3 года назад

Love this great video guys

@cha55am 4 года назад

I used to live in Durley, and remember the halt (near the converted water mill).. The Bishop Waltham branch line ended at Bishop's Walthem..we used to walk the whole line from Wickham to West Meon, where there was a huge wooden bridge over the village. I at was built for two tracks, but never had more than one was laid. Pity about the hurdles gastro pub, it overreached itself. The last conference before D day was held in a railway coach ar Droxford station.. Very historic.

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Thanks Charles, yup a very significant line indeed.

@robinnicholson4009 3 года назад

Thoroughly absorbing..especially with the dreaded lockdown. I can almost smell the fresh air. If you ever go to Kent have a look at the Isle of Grain

@pwhitewick 3 года назад

Thanks Robin, we will do.

@benjaminmack7567 4 года назад

I grew up in Farringdon and my parents still live there. The station was in the industrial estate and served what everyone in the village called "The Mill" an industrial building around which the estate grew up.

@tedvicarri6153 4 года назад

In the mid 60’s, I lived in Sages Lane, Privett, adjacent to the north end of the tunnel. Then, the ‘Connellys’ lived in the station, where most of it was still intact. As kids we played between the station and the north end of the tunnel. The tunnel was used at some point commercially to grow mushrooms in. Eventually the deep cutting, sadly became a landfill, [commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MVRPrivettTunnel.JPG#/media/File:MVRPrivettTunnel.JPG ] and a massive wildlife habitat was lost. The ‘Angel’ pub on the main road now, bears no resemblance to the pub that use to be there....It was called ‘The Pig and Whistle’ ....Happy Days... [Courtesy of Wikipedia] After the construction of Privett station, the contractors came to their biggest engineering work - the Privett Tunnel. At 1,058 yards (967 m) in length,[16] the tunnel was curved, so the centre of the tunnel was in total darkness. Steam shovels and horses were used to remove the spoil (the latter were lowered into the works down shafts). The ground the tunnel was being driven through was found to be solid enough but nevertheless the tunnel was lined, partially in brick, partially in concrete render.[citation needed][17] A collapse in the tunnel trapped two navvies, James Owen and George Brown, the latter dying of suffocation.[18] Owen managed to dig himself free with his pocket knife and was rescued after being trapped for over 53 hours.[19] A second man, Richard Allen was killed after being run over by a wagon in the tunnel. These deaths caused some men to leave the works.[20] Enough men left to make the contractors bring in two steam shovels and a traction engine, G. Harris and Son's Burrell 'Endurance', to speed up progress.[citation needed] The tunnel was built by two teams working from opposite ends, and when the two met they were less than an inch from their planned course.[21])

@Lichfeldian--Suttonian 4 года назад

This is a great line to follow.

@christinecrockford1654 5 лет назад

Amazing ur my fav watch on youtube, looking forward to you doing the railway between Lyme Regis and bridport and west bay, there still a station and one coach and tiny bit of track at west bay, also there is an amazing viaduct just outside Lyme Regis. Love your vids keep up the amazing work. Love it No one fan Chrissie xx

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Thank you Chrissie. Yup that line won't be too far away in our plans. Probably the in the next few weeks. 👍

@christinecrockford1654 5 лет назад

@@pwhitewick we also have the rodwell that from Weymouth right on to portland, beautiful views

@paulkandi 5 лет назад

Christine Crockford Visited Bridport station back in the 70s, blue class 121 was my train, hot day, wonderful memories ...

@andrewholloway231 5 лет назад

So glad that I subscribed to this channel.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Spread the word Andrew 😁

@dantheman6961 5 лет назад

Came here via Martin Zero's channel. Can't wait till you're up my neck of the woods. Liked and subscribed. :)

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Cheers Dan. 👍👍

@alanwarren2861 5 лет назад

Another enjoyable video. Keep them coming!

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Thanks Alan.

@geoffhobbs5287 5 лет назад

Bishops waltham station was where the roundabout Is and wickham's platforms are adjacent to the car park but were filled in over 30 yrs ago. If you walked from the hurdles pub then under the railway, you can access the trackbed via the goods yard entrance. Great video

@waysidecarvaleting 3 года назад

Hi great vid. I walk these areas lots. Was at the Durley Halt Station area yesterday and thought there was a station. Saw this video and you helped answer my question. Also have you ever been to the junction where the line meets at Botley. Cycling the Meon valley line is good fun to. Enjoyed your video on all the derelict local lines to me. The Hamble line is also another one they should re open. Runs to the oil storage unit for BP but could run a passenger service as Hamble station is so far out from the village.

@andrewswope8735 5 лет назад

When I went in the Tunnel with the bat survey some years ago we went in the north end it was used as builders storage and has lorry sized doors. The south end was bricked up and half buried with grates for the bats to pass through.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Thanks Andrew. I think we looked at the north end. Always happy when we see disused tunnels for that purpose.

@richardperry5538 Год назад

A scrappy used the tunnel to store fighter jet parts in, it was full to the roof for the whole length, there was wings, cockpit cover, wheels and engine parts all crated, it was all emptied around the late 90s.

@TimGrose 5 лет назад

Good to see this one as have run along here quite a lot. At Tisted there is a carriage and a bit of track in the back garden which you can see from a path and bridge behind it. Don't think any evidence of Farringdon station still exists but it is on the site of a small industrial park right by the main road. On the opposite side there is a path by the side of what presume was the underside of a bridge over the main road and you can walk/run on the trackbed to where you were at Tisted. Believe it is a "permissive" path - next best thing to an official ROW.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Ah yes, we saw the industrial estate entrance but for reasons unknown profile fixated with the bridge as the location.

@jacquesblaque7728 4 года назад

Interesting to see the diff between your Wellies (rubber knee-high) and our "murican version ( ~6" high leather). Yours are clearly similar to our Muck Boots. Rebecca's pink-uns are the purtiest, of course.

@jeffsuter344 3 года назад

I used to live in Wickham in the early 60s and remember the station still standing and freight trains still using the line. There was also a Southdown bus garage beside the station - early application of transport connectivity?

@MrBook123456 3 года назад

good job

@mattflack1080 3 года назад

The south portal to privett tunnel is indeed still there! I've been there, inside the tunnel is a skatepark built in secret by Nike in 2002 I think, worth a look at some photos

@duckydashcam751 4 года назад

It'd be nice to show you around where I live, a nice walk along an abandoned line.

@John-L-1961 9 месяцев назад

Hi Paul and Rebecca. Living in Southampton this is quite local to me and i have walked part of the lower section ( Wickham to Droxford ). Just been looking at this on the os Map and it looks like there is a branch coming off at Warnford Just north of the Hayden Lane bridge ? Could just be my imagination though. PS Thanks for the great videos.

@markjackman3871 5 лет назад

You should walk the trail on a less rainy day. It goes from Wickam to West Meon and is approx 10 miles. Allow a day and drop in at local pubs en route, we've done it and there are some great places to see and usually aged locals propping up the bars waiting to be asked about local history.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Cheers Mark. Yup the rain does tend to follow us around! Not the first time we have wanted to do a route more than once because of the weather.

@philiptownsend4026 Год назад

We used to live in Whiteley before emigrating and cycled up from Wickham to West Mean where we stopped at a tea shop before cycling back home down the A32. I used to work at Droxford as a chef at Upland Park Hotel (burned down now).

@philiptownsend4026 Год назад

You used the expression "parked up" in this video. I have been trying to uncover the origin of the expression and why it is used instead of simply "parked" but can find nothing. Can anybody enlighten me please?

@gussmedways 5 лет назад

The Wickham platform is in there somewhere. I've got three of the curved platform edges in my shed. They were scattered on site many years ago and I felt they needed to be "preserved"!

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Haha... Good work Russ.

@simontye179 3 года назад

Thanks.

@Tophenheim 3 года назад

You missed a few bits! Certainly been a while since I've been to West Meon, but the original floor was still there to the station building, and there are a few interesting relics in Mislingford goods yard (which is between Wickham and Droxford)

@gregruthen3844 4 года назад

Good fun

@allenwand5577 2 года назад

So much fun. Not sure what Churchill’s railroad means in the description though!! Made me watch.

@ISLEOFWIGHTARCHIVE 5 лет назад

if your ever at farringdon again PM me. it's all gone at farringdon halt but can show you the goods yard area and the old halt site plus things you probably won't see if you know.

4 года назад

Hate mentions of Churchill...but love the pair of you......

@austinhallmark7060 2 года назад

Like the music

@davidswheatley-talesfromth1796 2 года назад

You were one bridge too far north whilst looking for the Farringdon Halt. It is clearly marked on the O.S. 1:25,000 (outline) 1945 - 165 map to the west of Lower Farringdon, just south of Brightstone Lane and it was on the east side of the railway line.

@mbak7801 3 года назад

Maybe the platform curve was to accommodate engines with oversize external cylinders. I have a vague memory of hearing that some heritage trains could not run on mainline as they would scrape along the modern platforms. Another of my few brain cells says GWR. I could be completely wrong but maybe not.

@fordcortina3730 5 лет назад

Thank you for a great video. Unfortunately, you will need to come back as you have missed a station out on the Meon Valley Line. This is the Mislingford Goods Station and Halt about halfway between Wickham and Droxford. There are still some railway items there including a loading gauge and the adjacent railway cottages still stand. It is located behind Sydenham’s Timber Yard on the A32 and is accessed from Budden’s Lane.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Noooooooooo

@Roblilley999 5 лет назад

How have I not seen this video yet.... another remarkable video of the twin pair of lesser spotted vloggers.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

We found your lack of comment in the last video somewhat disturbing young Robert.

@Roblilley999 5 лет назад

@@pwhitewick firstly, thank you for referring me as young, secondly, thank you for caring....did this week's ramble and pointing go to plan?

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

@@Roblilley999 a pleasure. And no. Sick child halfway through day one!... Back to the tracks tomorrow!

@Roblilley999 5 лет назад

@@pwhitewick oh, sorry to hear that, kids first, trains second.... all the best for tomorrow's journey of discovery.... if their is anything i can do from base let me know

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

@@Roblilley999 can you sort the weather please?

@chrissayers7076 4 года назад

Well Paul, if it should become to muddy, I'm sure Rebecca would be more than happy to give you a piggy back!, might be fun to video, great vlogs, hey the guys over at all the stations had it easy, you've got a tougher challenge, thanks once again.

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Lol. True but they did their challenge in 3 months. Now that was epic

@mildertduck 5 лет назад

The OS County Series 1:2500 map (2nd revision, 1909 and 3rd revision, 1939) appears to show the track layouts at Wickham station in quite a lot of detail. These are view-able using the OldMaps.co.uk viewer (watermarked), or on Edina Digimap if you happen to know anyone in an organisation with a subscription, e.g. a university....

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Brilliant thank you Richard.

@michaelpilling9659 4 года назад

What a lovely video. No mention of Churchill though. Where does he fit in? Loven Meon station. Thank you to whoever decided to keep what is left

@kevinsykes7395 4 года назад

Michael Pilling If I remember rightly, he met Eisenhower in a railway carriage, in a siding, on the branch line of the Meon valley railway, somewhere near Droxford, during the planning for d-day.

@rainbather 3 года назад

@@kevinsykes7395 D-Day was effectively controlled from there; an armoured train in the sidings. IIRC (need to check!) Churchill, de Gaulle, Eisenhower and Stalin(?) held meetings there!

@davethecreek 4 года назад

Knowle Halt has a bit remaning you can see it heading towards Botley from Fareham. On train. Have you been to Brockhurst Station. Gosport railway line

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Thanks. Nope not as yet but not a million miles away so we will cover it soon.

@duncansmith44 4 года назад

Knowle Halt may be re-opened, to serve the planned Welborne garden village.

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

That would be great.

@janeashby7119 4 года назад

Have you ever thought of doing a book of all these? Because I would love to do all the walks etc you guys have done!

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Its definitely up there on the list of things to do, sadly at the moment time isn't really allowing us.

@lionelmarytravels6003 3 года назад

Trains continued to run down as far as Farmington for some years after the line closed, but I can’t remember what the purpose was.

@calxtra5361 4 года назад

West Meon Station had a large building and it was wonderful till it got demolished after the Beeching cuts ... My friend Ray wanted to buy it and make it into his home but was refused permission .. I lived in the village for 20+ years and wanted to walk the line but had to leave before I could do so. There was also a huge bridge that had existed across the road called the High Street, just along from the The Thomas Lord pub.. massive piece of engineering

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Cheers Cal, yes we had heard that the building survived until the late 70's?

@calxtra5361 4 года назад

@@pwhitewick Not sure when it was finally gone .. here's Ray's book on the line www.abebooks.co.uk/Meon-Valley-Railway-Stone-R-A/8325811512/bd

@youreds91 5 лет назад

Good video as usual. A bit of choice graffiti on the upright at 09:30 :o

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Cheers. Yes I think that has been there sometime now.

@buffplums 4 года назад

I read a story about one of the old Meon Valley line tunnels, Privett Tunnel supposedly being haunted by the ghost of a tunnel builder who was killed in collapse during construction.

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Not read that myself. Not really believers in all things ghost like!

@English_Dawn 5 лет назад

Paul hi. What's left of Cliddesdon station where they filmed the classic Oh! Mr. Porter with the tremendous actors Will Hay, Moore Marriott and Graham Moffatt as Buggleskelly station?

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Check out the Basingstoke and Alton Light Railway Video when you get a minute. Spoiler: Not a lot!

@darrenfitch 5 лет назад

Do what I do Paul.... I use pub conveniences..

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Haha.... Yes but we would never get anything filmed!!

@chrispearce6024 3 года назад

Have you done Fareham to Gosport line?

@paulmartin6397 5 лет назад

The remnants of the pre-cast concrete platforms supports of Knowle Asylum Halt (Tuesdays only) used to be visible from passing trains on the Fareham-Botley route, the formation being triple here. They might still be visible now. At Botley, the last few hundred yards of the branch is in situ as a headshunt for the rail-connected aggregate depot. The bay platform is still there too, albeit fenced off. Well done looking for Durley! A single rail-built post being more evidence than I would have expected to find. No doubt it was for an LSWR 'trespassers will be prosecuted' sign in cast iron. Privett tunnel south entrance is easy to find and get to if you know where to approach it from. You forgot to mention the temporary WW2 platform at Mislingford (and the permanent goods sidings). Sounds like another trip might be necessary...

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Thanks Paul. It's often the case that we gather more information after the trip. A other visit wouldn't be out of the question 👍

@Antonnick 2 года назад

Hallo Rebecca and Paul, I am particulary drawn to your Meon Valley video because as a young engineer in 1976/77 I drove every day along the A32 from the Reading area to Gosport to work. At that time the remnants of the old railway line, buildings etc were to be seen on both sides of the road. I remember that a bridge crossing the A32 was demolished over a weekend so as not to effect weekly traffic. Other bridges over the side roads were also demolished one by one at that time. It seems most of the line, south of Alton anyway was built on an embankment. In contrast to the area of Germany I now live in, there is no feeling of private property tresspass that engulfs UK . One can wander almost wherever you wish - it is part of the culture and the disused railway line here ( vulkan Radweg) is now paved for bicycles. Perhaps this old video may interest you ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MYExChDRzgE.html

@artyjay2608 5 лет назад

Haven't seen much drone footage lately Paul. Got any pictures of aeroplanes by any chance?

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Haha.... Erm..... Honestly put me in the middle of a desert and I'd still be nervous using it!

@ParkinsonsWalks 5 лет назад

You will have to get the children to show you how to use it. I know I would, but my Parkinson’s would prevent me from flying one anyway. You probably know me better from my channel ‘Parkinson’s Walks’. I have been thinking about you recently because in all seriousness the Dowdeswell Viaduct site is crying out for a drone survey. I did the best I could when I was there but the site is in a field with a virtually impenetrateable hedge. I don’t think the owners welcome visitors. From the air you should be able to get an accurate alignment from the embankments and a definitive location between the two. Probably a very good chance you would see ‘crop marks’ indicating foundations which would be awesome. There are very few dwellings to worry about, and virtually no pedestrian traffic, on the other hand if the drone went down in the field, or the woods, recovery might be a challenge. But that wouldn’t happen would it!! Probably not going to happen, but at least there are now two of us lying awake thinking ‘what if’

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

@@ParkinsonsWalks today the drone was out just north of Swindon.. it went around 300 yards before I got a tad nervous! Honestly though, flying over someones field that are not happy with visitors would likely be a no for me. Always in sight for me. That said I know one or two others that are a lot braver than myself if you'd like for me to pass on their details.

@bobly 2 года назад

Farringdon Halt opened in 1931 and closed in 1968

@IanandJo 5 лет назад

Where's the link to the P app? Enquiring minds need to know!

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Ooooooh forgot about that! Will add later!

@adamkellie2950 4 года назад

Did you see the floor tiles at west meon and you missed the good yard between droxford and wickham

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Sadly we missed all of those.

@adamkellie2950 4 года назад

On the opposite platform to the car park it looks like the remains of waiting room floor, when I last visited it even looked like they’d been mopped😂

@toomdog 2 года назад

“Oh, he’s seen us.”

@Byron2561 5 лет назад

'ang on. 8th December abd you have decs up?

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Haha.... Yep!!!

@ldb281 5 лет назад

Just wondering how many thousands youve yet to visit! cheers

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

6550 (approx). 😬

@bobly 2 года назад

Durley Halt opened in 1909 and closed in 1933

@2H80vids 4 года назад

I'm not sure which old maps you two use but this link maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=50.8839&lon=-1.2105&layers=193&b=1 might be of use. Clicking on the various overlays on the left, gives access to different eras etc - a great resource but...... can cost you A LOT of time.😬 A quick look didn't find too much on Wickham but some good detail on Knowle Halt. Hope it's of some use but I have a feeling you may well be using this site already. My best tip would be to use various different overlays for each location. Cheers for now, Dougie.

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Hi Dougie. Thanks for the link. Yeah unfortunately Wickham was built after most of the old detailed maps where drawn up. Most of the ones in the 50's just give the station as a big red blob!

@2H80vids 4 года назад

@@pwhitewick So I'm not the only one who leaves RU-vid comments at stupid o'clock. I guess we're lucky with the amount of info that is USUALLY available on these old maps. I've come to, sort of, EXPECT all the gen to be there and get quite miffed when the NLS site lets me dow. It doesn't happen often though. Scotland, in particlar, is covetred by so many different eras, it's possible to track a lot of the changes around the stations, pretty much as they happened. I love their archive but I lose SO much time because, by design of course, there's never just the one station on a line. Keep 'em coming, Dougie.

@philipsmith6181 4 года назад

Don't be mean Mr Whitewick. Allow your dear wife to have two Christmas trees. I have two real ones in my sitting room all year, lit and decorated. But then it has been suggested that the thin line between eccentric and idiot may have been crossed ! However it is always a talking point and goes with my shop window which has a working model railway surrounded by more decorations. Case proved M'Lord.

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

😅😅😅 two trees it is this year then Mrs W!

@MrSpamcan1 4 года назад

wickham station goods yard was to the west of the station behind the old fire station with the station approach road alongside the demolished station buildings if i remember it only had a couple of sidings reached by a long spur from the main line ,if you had looked hard enogh you could find the platform edge slabs still in situe among the weeds,the west meon tunnel was used to grow mushrooms ,and droxford station used to have a picture of Churchill in the booking hall with a plaque explaining that is was where his secret war room was, i travelled on the line shortly before closure ,1955,and on a special train on 4th march 1959 and have some old postcards of the line and photos (my grandparents and great grandparents lived in Wickham) and last visited the site of station in 2014

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Thanks John,

@bobly 2 года назад

Knowle Halt opened in 1907 and closed in 1964

@B-Mozzer 5 лет назад

were is the link for the Loo app

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Completely forgot... I'll add to the description shortly. In the mean time its called: " Where is Public Toilet"

@bobly 2 года назад

West Meon opened in 1903 and closed in 1955

@mrhandyhanky 5 лет назад

Could you superimpose "then and now" images on the stations you visit? It would be interesting to see what the locations used to look like in their heyday.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Yes!.... I've been considering this for a while now. My only concern is ensuring I can get hold of copyright free images. Track plans coming in the next video for starters. 👍

@simontay4851 5 лет назад

Just do it, screw the copyleft. We need to know.

@benters3509 4 года назад

Should have got her the tree. Would have improved the Christmas Dinner.

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Very true. BUT that would be two trees! That's just wrong.

@alexvanderdonk5594 Год назад

The music in the intro , who is this ~?

@peterweeden6203 7 месяцев назад

Origo - Ruins.

@harleancarpenter8043 4 года назад

Have you done Basingstoke & Alton, or is that still on list for this autumn/winter being local to you? Only ask because of the obvious Will Hay, Oh Mr Porter connection? As for South Devon video, thats one of my others for this weekend. Great weekend to both of you, and kids

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Cheers. Yup it's on that playlist and we made a few Hat-tips to those films. Check it out and let us know what you think! 👍👍

@bobly 2 года назад

Droxford opened in 1903 and closed in 1962

@bobly 2 года назад

Tistead opened in 1903 and closed in 1955

@bobly 2 года назад

Bishops Waltham opened in 1863 and closed in 1962