Crap car, slow performance BMW is way better Merc is made for old people and newly successful people who don't know crap about cars Audi and BMW make way better cars. Merc makes way too many cars that are redundant and useless. The only reason they sell is brand. People just associate Mercedes with success and affluence. I hate your brand
Can’t imagine how highly strung a 2L putting out nearly 500hp is. Like others have said, the reliability better be amazing because boy these are going to be insanely expensive to fix in the future.
That was my thoughts as well. These hybrids could be horrendous money pits at 10 years old. Having 2 engines plus expensive battery to maintain would be a no from me. Fully electric would seem a more sensible option.
Electronics/computers aren't impossibly hard to learn. Never doubt how much smarter the next generation will always be. I'm sure our forefathers thought the same thing about EFI at first and now there's super accessible tuning courses
Stupid track rules. They make you wear a helmet on a stock car, which in fact is more dangerous in case of an accident. The helmet should only be used if you have a rollbar installed and only with a hans device. Otherwise, it just adds more injury on your neck
You know, I used to think the same about them being forced to build this the way it is. That was until I saw the new S AMG. So they COULD HAVE slapped a V8 in this and still had it be a hybrid. Crazy
@@Cassp0nk bc BMWs other cars in the fleet may not pollute as much so they were able to use a inline 6. Also companies can buy “credits” from companies who have low or negative emissions (think companies like Tesla) to offset their fleets emissions.
Good call, they are only going to get more expensive now. When BMW ruined the design of the 3 series my m3 nearly doubled in value. These will be full electric in 5 years, this car will age like milk.
One thing to keep in mind the costs for repairs on a V8 turbo engine are double those of smaller engines. I own an M5 and it was 2000$ to change spark plugs and air filters. Also, if your car is a newer model most local shops will not service it (as they only work on older cars) so you re forced to go to the dealer (at least that s my case).
If you want an incredible 4 cyl, Mercedes already offer the 45 series, CLA 45, A 45 and GLA 45 AMG for example. I have no idea why the C63 has been converted to a 4 cyl but then the E63 has stayed as an 8 cyl. It's just weird.
@@ghostridertom My standard range model 3 weighs 1100lbs less than this mercedes "sports sedan", really feels like people who buy cars like this are too busy making the money to bother considering their options, that or mercedes just desperately needs to get its average C02 down to keep selling in europe.
This thing is pretty neat and is going to be a blast to drive, despite the loss of the V8. The biggest issue is the fact that once the warranty on this is up it is going to *plummet* in value and it will become a highly disposable car. The other concern is that the price of this is reportedly going to be close to an M5, which is vastly better car in terms of speed, capability, luxury, and quality. Mercedes has really let their quality get ushered out the door in lieu of stripclub lights and massive screens.
It's gonna be numb to drive since it's only driven by computers, it's inevitably heavy and it's not as efficient as it's supposed to. Even tho I hate new BMWs, M3 is way WAY better than this piece of joke in every single way.
@@mehmett.bakkal8257 So far every car reviewer on RU-vid has stated that this C63 S EP is incredible to drive. The only concern is the missing V8, that's all.
@Mehmet T. Bakkal don't be hasty in judging something you have no knowledge of brother Mehmet. Try it first then judge. I owned a brand new 8 cylinders cls55 11 years ago and really liked it, sold it a few years later, and bought the compact 4 cylinders a45s a couple of years ago and i enjoy driving it alot more than my previous cls55 or any other mercedes I've ever driven. Just give it a try and tell me how you feel
Also think about the stress on that little 2 liter four with so much HP being squeezed out of it, let alone the weight. I certainly wouldn't want to buy this car once out of warranty.
@@Peanutdenver this has been debated numerous time before, the extra stress on the engine block is mitigated by using better materials. You guys said the same thing about the last-gen A45 (the 381 HP one) yet the engine has been quite reliable. This isn't the early 2000s anymore, the engineering has advanced and we have access to far better materials. I can show you numerous large and undertuned NA V8s which you'd automatically assume are reliable, but in reality they're pieces of garbage because they're poorly built or designed. Small engines being unreliable isn't a rule.
@@xIcarus227 The weight is the main issue and the A45 is a much lighter car compared to the C63. It's really just physics at this point. That 4 cylinder will be substantially stressed which I think is a great engine for the A45 a hot hatch. But over 2100 is a lot of weight to lug around especially after 50k miles they could be issues time will tell. I'm not rooting against the C63 AMG I just wouldn't choose that platform over my M3 or the previous gen C63 which I really liked with the twin turbo V8.
@@Peanutdenver I think I understand what you're trying to say, but it's not exactly a fair comparison. You're saying that for the same amount of acceleration as in the A45, the C63 engine will have to work harder, right? It's true that it'll need more power to move it, but you're forgetting that the engine itself has more power and torque, and has an electric motor to help it. Any engine would work at a higher overall load when put in a heavier vehicle, but this one has help. Don't think there should be a notable difference. I do agree with you on the platform though. If I were in the market for such a car I wouldn't go for a C63 either. To me AMGs are the German muscle cars, to have one without a V8 just defeats most of the point. I'd either go for an M3/M4 or shell out the extra cash for an E63. And like you, I don't have anything against this car, it's just not for me. Neither do I have anything against the inevitable full electrification of these sports cars, but I just prefer enjoying proper ICE cars for as long as they last.
@@xIcarus227 That's a good point on the hybrid system and it's all speculation until we see these cars 5 or 6 years down the road and how they are holding up mechanically. Some Merc's see minimal issues once they get some miles on the clock and some don't. But that's true with a lot of cars.
The loss of the V8 is really tragic. From my point of view these cars should have theatre and noise to their performance. Just going fast is one portion of the experience. Real loss.
It's a shame this looks so good and theres no V8 to top it off. Each time there was a rear shot i just kept imagining the loud raw followed by pops of the V8 BiTurbo...
To be fair the exterior looks like almost every other AMG for the past couple years and why does the infotainment still have huge bezels? disappointing changes tbh
@@1980arw Yes as long as they keep that naming sceme they should have. They could have changed it to reflect hp instead though since nowadays there are so many more ways to add hp than just engine volume so its not really relevant like it was in the old days. Current naming practice is just plain stupid since it now means 0.
RIP to the V8 but dear lord are those some impressive numbers from a 2L 4 cylinder. Would've been nice to see a straight six in this though. I respect the power density of the 4 but I still can't wrap my head around something with a C63 badge on it having the same cylinder count and engine displacement as my GTI.
This is not a feer by Mercedes..too bad. they know how to make a fast and quality car, but this is too much.. anyone who has the opportunity would definitely buy a BMWM3 or an Audi RS4.. maybe an Alfa V6..
Last Gen C63s already burns through tire and break like crazy.. I usually ran out a set of pads in 10k ~ miles, same as the tires. Now I'm thinking about this 2.1 tons monster, oh man, better ez on both the gas paddle and brake..
I want to see you compare this one with the V8 c63. But not 1 or 2 drags, want a full test to see this new model consistency. It doesn't matter if it's faster in 2 or 3 drags but then loses power lol Would this deliver 100% of the power IF YOU want it, all day? Because that's what AMG means, that's what they stand behind: no compromises in performance.
@@morimetz i said drag race as an example. But if you drive it agressivelly all day which is acceptable for this kind of car...could it mantain that top performance, seeing that the battery is only 6kwh? I know for sure the v8 can...
Actually it does matter. No one is doing more then 2/3 drags silly xD You want complete test? 10x cold start trip to shop 2 miles from the starting point? :)
It’s crazy how they got 476hp out of a 2.0 litre 4 cylinder! I remember when Mitsubishi had 400hp from a 2.0 but it required servicing every 2000 miles or something like that.
@@slipknnnot bullshit, it's all about how the engine is built. I can show you loads of NA V8s which were pieces of shit reliability-wise as well as tiny pumped-up I4s which were reliable.
@@niccolomachiavelli8763 no one wants speed we want character and heritage that's what old amg stands for yall go with your fast 2.0 c63 hybrid that cost more than a e63 amg
@@niccolomachiavelli8763 even a rs7 is cheaper than this car and handles better even a s4 has a bigger engine that it of course the c63 will leave it but we don't care
Mind I remind you all: according to Mercedes AMGs own design chief, they could have done this car with a hybrid v8 with no changes to the body… but they chose this engine. So yea, should tell you how much they love their enthusiasts.
I know the Ford GT decided to go with a V6 instead of a V8 because it was lighter and more compact. But still... if I'm paying $80,000 for a car, I want my damn V8. I'll accept the extra weight.
I think it's a great car now, but I do worry about long term longevity. Also, makes me yearn for the old M156 powered 6.2-liter engine if just for the sound.
It's good. Not great. If they cared so much about speed and horsepower, they could have just made it and EV. Coz once battery goes down in this hybrid, you aren't getting full 680 hp. Why Mercedes why
RIP AMG V8 you’re blessed Our ears for many decades and I think Matt should do a video of AMG V8 revving for one minute instead of a minute silence as a Mark of respect to this wonderful engine lol
Ok I’m actually blown away with the performance but I still think I would take the old C63s because of the V8 and believe it or not I like the previous interior more, I’m not a fan of a lottt of tech, also that amount of power coming from a 4cyl means that there’s a lot of stress in that engine so idk how the reliability is long term on that thing
Not sure about exterior. It’s so flat. Where are the flared fenders? 63 has always been associated with aggressive wide body design. It now looks like a regular family sedan
m3 is much lighter than a full size wagon tho.. audi has been lazy to up their ice game, all they build now are heavier cars with lower power than bmw and merc
@@holttwins9540did we watch the same video? He brakes before the end of the quarter mile. This is at least a tenth quicker than an m3 comp. Just wait until they do a side by side drag race.
@dommassey1249 they could have easily made a mild hybrid v8 and kept emissions regs. At the this point they should have just gone full electric that engine brilliant though it is brings nothing to that car 😫 I have experienced both the 6.2 and 4.0
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@@thehomelessproject3784 or just a inline 6 like in the cls 53 would have been enough but why a 4zyl🥲
@@thehomelessproject3784 I’ve also experienced both, the engine in this new one is strong like you say but I agree, the c63 isn’t as exciting anymore. Luckily we’re still getting the 4.0 in other models, just not in anything as cheap as the c
@@v12-s65 despite having well over 100hp less the M3 comp is just as fast and I can bet it handles better due to the C63 weighing as much as a minivan. Mercedes dropped the ball on this one.
@@v12-s65 it's £17k cheaper yet does everything as well as the c43 and has the character of the 6 cylinder which for me that's the whole point of combustion powered cars. 6 cylinders sounds and feels different.
In the first C63 press video, Mat was talking to the new head of AMG. You could tell the guy was a brainwashed corporate zombie who couldn't care less about the cars. What a shame.
at 14:10 with those wide wheel arches in the front but not the rear, it kinda makes it look like a lawnmower. Really loved the rumble V8 AMG's, afraid this one is more a miss than a hit. Ah well, in about 10 years we'll probably be revving nice hydrogen v12's and bring the earth back to life with water vapour as exhaust fumes
Kinda but the overall width is probably the same both front and back. Also completely disagree with this being a miss. Even Matt’s impressed with the car despite the lack of a v8
Pretty funny. I work for mercedes and was invited to Mallorca for testing this car before it launched. That silver one is the exact one I drove in. Hope you hade fun over there!
the thing I HATE the most is having to adjust all the controls/function and everything through a touch screen - I really don't like that. May as well text and drive!
For the Mercedes having over 500more nm and over 100hp more and only being 0.07 faster 0-100 and slower quarter mile than the bmw M3 X-drive is so shocking for Mercedes
@@tusharaggarwal9115 exactly if bmw can put an inline 6 I think Mercedes could they just added a small engine with a big battery that made it super heavy
Only in the C63s, which is one of the things that made the car iconic. Guess we'll have to purchase the E63 or S63 if we want the latest Merc with a V8 engine.
If you want a true AMG V8 now is the time to buy one, because I suspect those to become quite desirable in a few years, I also suspect the newer models will depreciate faster than a lead balloon going down due to costs of replacement parts and a bit of a liability, replacement parts costing multiple £10s of thousands will make the newer ones throw away items.
I have been always a massive fan of the C63 and AMG, but this new car kind of brought tears in my eyes and made me ask the totally pointless question: WHY?! 😢 I understand the regulations and all of the other things, appreciate the engineering in the car, but still… I agree with Mat, this is what they had to build. 😥
Mercedes are going in the wrong direction. Hybrid isn’t all that when you have to have 2200kg in a small family sedan. Needs to be much much lighter and maybe a V6. It just ruins handling, braking and acceleration. Plus if the batteries don’t give you the full 670hp all the time then it’s pointless.
@@asssiesgaming453 The oil gets warmed up from the battery’s heat being dissipated. Secondly the engine won’t just come in at high revs because the battery power mode isn’t gonna go so damn fast that the car has to jump into gear with the engine on at top RPMs. Software tuning has come a long way in factory cars. Not hard to program safe parameters for each individual mode. This is essentially a hybrid car, plenty of manufacturers already have hybrids this isn’t anything new
@@NoVaRedacted So the battery is cooled with engine oil? Btw dont forget that most hybrids have always been non turbo engines, that's not without reason..
As electric & hybrid car performance makes IC performance irrelevant, we won't be looking back at the most powerful IC engines we'll be looking back at the ones that were the most emotive, the 6.2L M156 being one of them along with a slew of other engines. People will miss the Flat 6, V6, V8, V10 & V12 when they're gone.
my only issue is that you are not doing the launch/quarter mile on a flat road - we can clearly see that portion of the track has a decline. Which invalidates the 0-60/quarter mile numbers.
It is 400kg heavier than the competition and has silly 4 cylinder yet Mercedes fans will still say that they would take it instead of the Audi and BMW 😂😂 This is ridiculous. I guess most people don't grow up.
Yeah why couldn't they just put a 6-cylinder engine, and just renamed it as the new C43. I don't think people would be as mad if they didn't use the C63 name.
I understand it’s going to be fast I get it but the c63has always been a rear wheel drive icon for me I’ve had 2 w204 and 2 w205 but the most thing for me was the iconic noise coming from the rear even with the w205 update I was convinced it was going to sound shite but amg nailed it 👍🏼 why 4wheel drive ?I’m not interested in 0 to 60 times the electric cars own that now as we know it’s just a 90k plus a45 sad times bye bye c63 amp I’m sure all amg fans will all miss you 😭😭😭😭just got a w204 coupe 😍😍😍😍
it looks great! i like the tail lights more then those of my 205. interior is nice altough i would miss the normal buttons... but the sound... big part of the reason why i accept the price of a C63 is the sound (and the feel of the V8), now its even more expensive and both these points are gone... because lets be fair, if only the best drag/track performance is important you look at an alfa, BMW or a class higher at the E63 S.
Getting lots of power out of an engine isn't hard but maintaining them is. Wonder what the service intervals are on this thing. As much as I like it I'd be terrified the day the warranty ended, guarantee these things lose value rapid because second hand ownership will be financial suicide
Amazing technical marvel but as a former AMG owner E55, I'd miss the V8. What they should have done is kept the 4.0L V8 then add hybrid to that if they'd like. Also the rear facia (rear tail lights) looks identical to the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio which removes some of the AMG's uniqueness. To spend +$100K on a 4 door performance sedan a you perfectly state I need to feel the, "Emotion" and this car simply doesn't have it for me. My previous E55 AMG so you know I'm a previous owner: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wffK2MQWylo.html
It’s crazy how a M3 comp despite being so low on power still manage 3.1 sec for 0-60. And I reckon it’s gonna do it again and again on the other hand c63e gonna need to charge it’s battery after a few launches.😢
The C63 has always been my favourite small sports sedan and this one is still up there for me. Yes the loss of the V8 is sad but that's the way of the world now. I just really can't decide between the C63 and the C43 which has the same engine without the hybrid shenanigans.❤️
Let’s be honest, the main reason you would buy a C63 was that awesome V8. Also, how much damage does making these cars cause to the environment compared to previous versions. The process of building and then “recycling” these batteries is really damaging to the environment!