Great walkthrough by Scott - no need for a co-pilot in this one, Scott seems to know what to show and tell. Well presented and well prepared. Mercedes seems to go in the totally opposite direction to Tesla with all the buttons and bling bling OMG!
It's good to have wide ranging options tho this is for a small minority with the coin, and I suspect--older folks rig like Caddy has been for decades. I like SOME physical buttons, steer column stalks and a full steering *wheel* , lol. Lack of buttons is mitigated with a user specified control bar at bottom...one step for personal priorities.
@@edornelas8275 Something about the steering wheel, vents and more reminds me of the tasteless 1970's American sleds. Some BYD models look far more appealing from the pictures.
I love watching traditional car journalists react to this infotainment screen. They are so blown away by how ridiculous it is that they have to praise it, even though they can't figure out how to use it...
Said OLED increased efficiency might be just nulled out by the 30+ LED pipes all around. On the other hand, I would have concerns for OLED longevity in a car. 14:00
@@seb. That center OLED will definitely be experiencing burn-in on the bottom half of the screen with the climate controls, not that it matters when you only want the climate controls there anyways.
The LED reflections will make the infotainment experience even more overwhelming and distracting, all to give you more reminders of how stressful and tiring it is to be rich lol
30:52 - "GPS position saved. Camera will be switched on here automatically in the future". This is not for recording. It is a preferred camera view tied to location to assist with parking/maneuvering to focus on a curb, car wash rails, or garage walls.
That’s not a light pipe and single driver, that’s addressable RGB with diffuser. You couldn’t do that scrolling swiping light motion with a traditional light pipe that only has a single LED at the end. You can only do that kind of segmented motion with an LED strip with multiple addressable RGB LEDs on it.
One of the best videos here on the channel - many thanks to Scott! I personally find it far more enjoyable when only one person explains things. Double moderation is sometimes a bit distracting. Many thanks to Mr Munro - it's admirable that high quality and informative content is made available for free. There are many videos here on youtube, but they mostly just scratch the surface and lack technical depth. This is where this channel stands out in a pleasingly positive way!
One more thing about the paddles; if you hold any paddle for a few seconds it enters Auto regen in which the car decides the best regen mode according to traffic conditions using the radar. Its uses more regen in heavy traffic and none in highway conditions. There are more tricks to the pony!
On the grab handles, I use them a lot, but only in SUVs. And I know my mother and mother in law utilize them in Sedans (in their 70's & 80's.) So while they may not be useful to you, there is a large percentage of the market of Mercedes buyers who are older and would make use of the grab bars.
@@arizonajon5070 I hear you, I don't much miss them *personally* but it's no brainer NO DELETE. :D My old BMWs have sprung folding handles, non protruding but useful if u know it's there...for sporty driving or ingress/egress.
I wonder if the absence of grab handles has something to do with the frameless window design? And, yes I agree, older folk with limited mobility do use them.
It makes a nice change from acres of white and no colour or contrast, which is the fashion for user interfaces at the moment. Ideally, they'd make it themeable, but that's probably asking too much.
Fwiw, i don't think this is just a Mercedes issue. The big car brands are now all building EVs centred around touchscreen interfaces. But maybe half of them seem to have dated UI design for some reason or another. Some are clunky to navigate. Some are poor on the accessibility front. Some, like this, just have an asthetic that's 15 years out of date. I'm not sure if it's coming top down with exec's demanding the interface looks just like their physical buttons that no longer exist, or bottom up from UI designers that seem to have missed out on years of stylistic and functional progress. Or old dogs trying to learn new tricks transitioning from physical control cluster design to software interfaces. But it's weird and out of place on such an expensive vehicle.
I noticed the recent Chinese EV Munro acquisition in the background ... I’d be more interested seeing detailed vids about the engineering and quality of that vehicle rather than a vehicle that realistically is out of many people’s budget.
The reason Tesla didn't go with an OLED screen is because of, even OLEDs have improved a lot on this, burn in. Static images tend to become permanently "burned in" to OLED screens, leaving a shadow of the static image on the screen even when something else is being displayed.
@@teslasnek I think Mercedes has a micro tilt function where the elements shift slightly over time to circumvent burn in and you can also shut off the screen to save some power.
@@abraxastulammo9940 than Mercedes has better technology than the best TV manufacturers (I seriously doubt that) because as a PC gamer who would love to use an OLED as my monitor, all the research I've done says that, even though they have made huge improvements, burn-in is still a risk... a risk I am not willing to drop thousands of dollars on, or over $100,000 as in the case of this car. Also, OLEDs get dimmer over time. Not something I want in my $100,000+ car until those issues are sorted. I currently use an LG 43 inch 4K IPS monitor for gaming btw, and I love it!
Umm, no. The issue of OLED burn in is theoretical. All modern OLED screens use randomizers making burnout a non issue. Virtually all phones now use OLEd without issues. Tesla hasnt used OLEDS because LED is cheaper, not better in any way.
I just got a used one for 50k with low miles ! ! Ridiculous depreciation on this car. It's a really amazing car. Super smooth and quiet ride, tons of cool tech.
Thanks for the detail review! Great job! One question I have is, do we really care about real-time PM2.5 reading in vehicle? Or a HEPA filter can solve it fundamentally.
Funny how the NEW "Light Pipes" they use were the same thing GM used in 1968 to 72 Corvettes for interior illumination but then it was called "Fiber Optics", amazing how old things become New again just by changing a few letters!
This Interieur is great. The ambient lighting seems to be indirect light in the whole car. That makes it very comfy and relaxing. The screen is nutz. Looks like straight from the future. Fits so well into the car. Great job Mercedes!
Are "light pipes" the same as fiber optics? And, just to let you know, both myself and my wife are always using our "grab handles", (aka "Oh, Sh_t" handles), to get out of our car, as we both are handicapped, having to use canes or walkers.
Great work Scott! Those air vents looked lifted from a 20 yr old Spyker….or perhaps a 15 yr old Mercedes’ powered Pagani🙄 LED mood lighting is the new Piano Black😎
I hope this comes with a factory screen protector. Seems like it would be impossible to install one yourself with the shape/size. I don't even want to know how much it will cost to fix that glass if it gets damaged in any way....
The only people that would care about DIY installing a new screen in this vehicle would be the 6th and 7th owners in the year 2032. Why should Mercedes care about those people?
Actually an OLED consumes more than a regular TFT with backlighting, see laptops with OLED having at least one less hour of usage compared to same laptops but TFT versions. In this case, the colors are dark, so it probably consumes more or less the same, but offers a greater image quality. There is no other way to obtain pure black with zero light bleeding. That is why all phones have OLED (except the very cheap ones) screens and they wirk for many years without problems. I trust they implemented some pixel shifting & refreshing to safe from those shadowing artefacts.
OLED laptops tend to be higher resolution. OLEDs at 150nits of brightness tend to consume ~20% less energy when displaying 50% gray. It's only when you start going beyond 200 with white content that things start going downhill quickly. Also, Tesla's use the less energy efficient IPS not TFT.
@@ch4.hayabusa IPS is a form of TFT, it is not something else. Indoubt it is 150 nits, in light you cannot see much at 150. At night, sure, nuo daytime. Anyways, I expect good things.
TFT may be more efficient but compared to OLED it is horrible in all other parameters. OLED is simply the best looking display bar none. Infinite viewing angle with 100% blacks thus the highest contrast bar none, even the best plasmas could not approach this level of color accuracy and contrast. Efficiency is the same as the best LED AKA excellent. In comparison, TFT it a crude technology.
@@Wised1000 Yes. There are 2 mentions, though: the regular OLEDs do not have very high luminosity levels to be easily used in the light (see laptops, they have 400 nits when TFTs go 500 and more), although it is possible if we look at the phones; second is the nasty shadowing effects on the screen which need different tricks to avoid.
Now, do like I did, take it outside on a normal sunny day and see how you like the screen, you can't see it because you are blinded from the sun coming through either the windshield but especially the sun roof to your rear, screen should be flat not glossy.....
The air quality doodas are extraordinarily valued in other parts of the world known for their particularly nasty air quality, for example India and China. Again, given that MB is a worldwide premium brand, those little "touches" are targeted to those costumers.
Looks a lot fancier and yet significantly less expensive than a Lucid! Interesting to compare sales at the end of this year for the two (including the 500-1000 / year from Lucid's Saudi investors).
I like that the dash looks like a traditional dash and not like a dash with a huge screen bolted on to it. The zero layer controls and the ability to enable / disable creep also makes sense - I think every EV should offer this functionality as it only costs a few lines of code.
Thank you for the tour, Scott. It is nice to see what happend somewhere outside Tesla. From the Camera angle it looks like you can not really see the front of the car. Also this large screen, the LED stuff, it is very irritating. The more I see from that car, the more it looks like an aircraft cockpit from mid 2000 combined with a seatrow in the buissenessclass. I personally prefer the clean dashboard from Tesla, no unneeded extra stuff, blingbling and lights, but I think, some ppl want that Mercedes. As I could see, the range is ~300miles?
I can attest that you cannot see the front. Not to worry you can use the line of sight to tell where its at. Finally the instant you approach any object the cameras automatically turn on.
The range is 340 miles EPA. Real world test are 400 to 424. Unlike Tesla which always misses EPA by 10 to 15% The Germans have chosen a testing criteria where the vehicles over deliver on their EPA. The only vehicle duly tested with a longer range is the Lucid "Dream Edition" which is a limited edition of a couple hundred cars and is a "cheaty" version that Lucid has been handing out to the media. Real production cars will not get 500 miles. BTW everywhere I post about Lucid. I like to get the record clear Lucid is owned by Mohammed Bin Salman, the Saudi prince that the the journalist Kashoggi dismembered and stuffed into suitcases. Food for thought.
@@Wised1000 Thank you for that informations. The range is unexpected high. I need to check some more technical facts to get the complete picture. As my Boss is driving Mercedes and got in touch with the hybrid version e-class, he found out, electric drive is cool but he is still argumenting with range. 400mi (640km) is a good point to let him check the EQS. For myself, not to see the cars end and only get a camera view is a no-go. Sure, if you know your car, you know where it starts...mostly :) Some germans can not park such cars, if they can't see the end (or start). I have it all days, that someone with a SUV (also sedan) is circeling around having 1 meter space in front and can not get out the parking lot or crashs into the car in front ignoring beepers and camera. From my perspective this should be solved instead of having much LED stuff blingbling :)
Massage modes of the seats will vary according to the interior trim, regular vs AMG version since they use completely different seats. If there is a thigh massage on the particular trim it will be part of the "wave" massage program. Don't forget to scroll down on the massage page since they don't all fit on the screen :) Ill be sad to discover if it doesn't since the "butt" massage is the favorite one on my other Benzes.
Great walk-through. But one comment about the lack of grab handles by the doors. There is a group of us consumers that are now assisting our parents or others with limitations where the grab handles are very important for people to grab and steady themselves as they get into and out of the seat. With an aging population, I suggest, the market while small will be growing. Door width, seat placement, and step-over height are also critical for those with knee limitations.
Although Scott says he hasn't used grab handles ever, just wait until he's into his 60s-he will. I'm disabled AND 60-grab handles are EXTREMELY important to me! I wonder is Mercedes sells to people my age or older? 🤔
Seems to me to be hyper gadgetry with existing tech to achieve high tech luxury. Three screens adds complexity and therefore cost. Hepa filter was first introduced by Tesla and now people are concerned with air quality. They were concerned long before when they banned diesel trucks in school zones. Mercedes is following suit with EV which is great and people will love what they bring because it is a beautiful car.
It becomes tacky very shortly, just like the large screen across the car. Mercedes is put more and more and more and more into the car in the field luxurious
OLEDs can consume anywhere from 40% to 130% the energy of an LCD. It depends on it's brightness and the content. They are not inherently more power efficient, especially at high brightness.
What's nice is Mercedes has made the interface out of mostly dark colours, so this is going to be on the more efficient side. They've played to the advantages of the screens.
PM2.5, that's particulate matter with a size of 2.5 microns. You know, the ones that can affect your blood-brain-barrier and cause inflammation and what not. The bad stuff.
What is the front headroom on this car? I'm 6'4.5" with most of my height in my back. The rake of the windshield and low roof would indicate that this is a car for the"vertically challenged ".
Mercedes created a mixture of Pink Unicorn and the famous Blue Oyster Bar. And then, standing in line for an hour at the 4 stall CSS charger with average everyday people on vacation, until it is your turn to charge 30 minutes. 🤣
Sorry to be commenting so many times but I'm doing it as I watch. The EQS is, if not the best, one of the best cars tested by Euro NCAP. EV's general are much easier to design for safety since they are basically two completely empty crumple zones attached to an ultrastrength center box which holds the battery. What will I'm certain to come up in the future is how bad EVs are to other ICE vehicles in a crash. For example, an EQS is more than half a ton heavier than an S class. In fact its as heavy as an F 150, though not the same since the form factor is that of a normal sedan.
@@Factoryseconds123 Dont forget that in the USA the best selling vehicles are full size pickups. Those are much worse since not only are they as heavy or heavier, they are also taller and thus override sedan crash protection.
Looks incredibly tacky. The wood finish does blend well. Not to mention the processor is underpowered. The UI, graphics, map visuals just looks dated. I'm getting IOS pre 7.0 vibes.
That‘s what struck me as odd the most. The whole car feels like it was designed by a guy in a beige suit. Is it nice? Sure, but everything feels kinda old-school. The excessive amount of buttons, even flappy-paddles for regen-settings? That‘s something you usually set once and forget. As are the seat-settings which are prominently placed on the door to be set once for your profile and never be touched again. Then the UI from a phone from 2005 (single huge icons you have to scroll through.. like, seriously?) I guess it‘s what cars used to look like, but once you get rid of all that nonsense, you really don‘t miss it. That said, I‘m glad there are options like this for people who really want it old-school.
Big screens, but the processor running them is a crappy 8-core nVidia ARM mobile processor with integrated GPU. Tesla uses a 4-core Ryzen APU with integrated graphics AND a dedicated mid-range graphics card.
I bet the doorhandle LEDs still fail in a fraction over 3 years.... MB don't seem to be able to make one that lasts. W204, W205, comparable E class models, all the same - dead door handle LEDs. The fragrance system has been available on MBs for a while now. Certainly since 2016 when I bought a C class. ...and talking of the 2016 C class....it doesn't have user profiles - I couldn't believe that my 2006 Jeep did and a 10 year newer MB didn't. And no, it wasn't an option I didn't buy, just not available. Don't know if or when they included them. Maybe with MBUX?? The interior design looks very 'Star Trek' to me - way, way too distracting an environment imo.
It feels like somewhere along the road of " Focus on Customer Centric Design", Benz forgot the actual use of an Infotainment System. It's overkill and People hardly use all the features that these huge Screens are offering. They better as well make the whole Windshield a big touch screen...lol
That old luxury vs new luxury. Explains why legacies don't sell well in techie China, the newer generation of buyers want their cars to be at least as smart as their cellphones today. This thing, for example, is all "techno" bling, but in function it's windows 2000 on a budget cellphone in terms of UI and responsiveness. I think Mercedes should have stuck to what they do best, which is leather cushions and insulation. All this bling just shines their weaknesses in software/silicon on a big billboard.
@@gmv0553 - Elon knows MORE than most. and has REAL knowlage , he read books on Rocketry, and other subjects. how many Rocket boosters have YOU landed ?
🤗THANKS SCOTT…FOR SHARING THIS STORY WITH US👍 Btw… just saying ❤️ love the interior and you can’t have too many lights 🤩🤩🤩 And the ability to choose how many or turn them all off 😎😍😍😍
🤔 just some afterthoughts … grab handles became very useful as I got older which is not your problem yet😁 The other screen is very important for the backseat driver 😁 I was hoping to hear the sound system and what brand it is😋
I appreciate the effort MB has put in to the car. No one can call it bland and regular. I wouldn’t choose this car but glad that there is EV options for consumers.
I guess the point is that MB is moving in the right direction. It looks like it was designed for older folks but with a prom date vibe. Those lights make me want to throw up in the back seat. Conflicted!
